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tv   [untitled]  BELARUSTV  August 18, 2024 4:35pm-5:10pm MSK

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i'm just a person, well, someone who can do something, why did i become an artist, when i was still in school, in polesie in the village of makarichi, in the tenth grade my classmate entered the art school, and i prayed a little for the wall newspaper, i thought, how am i worse than the derensky boy to go to minsk, i thought, and let me try to enter the school, i went and entered the minsk art school named after glebon, glebovano design department, glebovka is a school. it was comparable to the academy, 5 years in design, 6 years in monumental department, we produced some very great guys, skripnichenko, well, many who later became very famous artists, i studied for 5 years in glebovka, in formilovka, we had a union distribution, union, all over the ussr, i asked to go to veliky novgorod, before that i was taken into the army from the school, i served in the soviet army for 2 years, received a medal for military valor, served in ...
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there is a capacity, two directions can be distinguished, one is decorating colored glass using different decorating methods, the second is this is decoration - cutting, engraving and so on, that is, either hot production, or already cold production, well , as for hot - this is a different kind of venetian thread, neman thread, that 's what can be wound, twisted, scratched, stretched on glass while hot and get. colored or textured, and if we talk about also very complex work, deep matte engraving with the help of engraving wheels, that is, not what you see on glasses, in uzhary glasses the diamond edge is polished, but this is a relief drawing carved in glass, this is very difficult, because here you need to be a very good artist, draw beautifully and feel, be a micro-sculptor at the same time, that's what, say, coins are minted. this drawing is minted on
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a coin, the same roughening, this relief needs to be taken into account the possible optical properties of glass, somewhere deeper, somewhere shallower, and get such a... bas-relief in glass directed inward, but which looks like an external bas-relief, this is extremely difficult, it is very expensive, it is very beautiful, it's exquisite, if i tell you about my rear, well, here is my wife nina nikolaevna, this is not my extreme love, well, thank god , we have been living for 23 years, i will say, we have never been frightened, we have never raised our voices at each other, but with all my love...
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somewhere a crucian carp is crawling nearby, you see, blowing bubbles, it is poking at the bottom, picking bugs from the grass, and there is a good heap of them, but i can't get there, i need to cast long distances, and there the depth is already under 3 m, i am indifferent to fish as such, this moment of expectation, well, like everything in life, the moment of expectation, adrenaline expectations are... this is what attracts, well of course, you want to catch it, well, you can't do without it, you have to come and say, look, i caught it, i brought a fish to my wife, she loves it, well, here it is spinning around the worm, oh, you see, the bubbles are going right under the float , maybe she is feeling it, i would like the reel to creak,
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a nostalgic memory of childhood, when i was still a kid, a schoolboy, even a junior schoolboy, when in the spring the flood begins on the pripyat, the river overflows for 20 kilometers, well, we have a high bank, we... the water comes under the steep, to the meadow side far, far away the end of the region is not visible to the forest itself, if you go to pripyat behind the meadow side, where the lakes are, you can get lost, lake, lake, lake, channels, lake, lake, lake, amazon, belarusian amazon, and my older brother and i are such romantics, we took our grandfather's boat, on which they carry hay, firewood, a healthy boat, we washed it cleanly, cleanly with a derkach, so that the bottom was clean, smooth, so that you could sit on it. we put a mast on this boat, a yard on the mast, as it should be, we made two homespun colorful bedding from grandma, what grandma on the crosses weaved, equipped a sail and waiting for the wind that blows against the current, raised the sail on this boat,
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as much patience as there was, went up the spills, and then lowered the sail, the current slowly, so it drives back, you lie in the lot on the bottom, the water under the boat stuck.
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in nature, it seems, the world has sunk into the darkness, all the loud parties disappeared and only the fox sang the wind's ear, so that you would wake up and understand what kind of darkness it was, before each man's strength goes to nature, to the forest. field on the river and azera, fresh adchuvaytse wind, take in the clear sky, listen to the birds singing and the forest murmurs, smile at the sleepyhead, sing for
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joy, jump into the vocals. in harmony with nature. belarus 24. in the previous episode, we have bleeding, what kind, uterine, how old is the patient? 35 years old, 40 weeks, urgently, please, and why weren't there contractions, there were contractions, oh, come, come quickly, please, a woman is admitted to the maternity hospital in serious condition, how is her condition? an ambulance in blood. where is the baby? in the womb , the mother called when she saw that the whole bed
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the baby turned out to be dead. the second umbilical cord was torn off, doctors reported the secret birth to the police. the initial version was that this woman simply gave birth to a dead child, and accordingly got scared that it was dead, and didn’t tell anyone about it. the baby’s corpse and the policemen... into custody.
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tatyana, who had recently been miraculously revived by doctors, became a suspect in the murder of her own child. during the secret birth , the second baby died in... the mother’s womb, and the parents found the first one under the bed, wrapped in a grocery bag, the detainee begins to testify, this is footage of interrogations in august 2023, got pregnant before the new year, it turned out that i knew that there could be a delay of more than 10 days, so when i went to have an abortion, it was, then, when i agreed to have it done at 12. the detainee admits that the child was unwanted, so she decided to have an abortion. the woman had had an abortion
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before, but this time it was not possible to carry out the procedure in a timely manner. at first there was no money, by the end of the permissible period the temperature rose. as a doctor, she knew that anesthesia at a temperature is harmful to health, so the medical center will not perform the procedure on her. the husband says that this issue will be resolved, but from the woman's side. the counterargument is that the deadlines have already passed, what to do, and accordingly, they decide, or rather they and the spouse, what needs to be done somehow illegally, as they have determined for themselves. to make his words true, the spouse called a certain andrey several times, he promised to find an anesthesiologist and to a place where it will be possible to have an abortion for 500 dollars. the family did not have that kind of money, but the husband promised to solve it. all the questions, tatyana believed, with her husband decided to find somewhere to do it,
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find this, how and where to find it illegally, who should i find it from, well, through connections, through what connections, well, in general, well , ask around, there, maybe someone will take it for money, and who exactly should i ask, who provides such services, and who exactly should i ask what services are provided where, well, it's like not official. i don't understand that it's not official, but where in our country do they do that work, they do it, they do it for money, at what stage, at any stage, well, they contacted someone, yes, yes, who exactly, well, my husband has some acquaintance named andrey, who is he, who is he a doctor at all or who, well, he said he was a gynecologist, but where he works, i don’t know. and what he promised to do,
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well, to have an abortion at any stage of pregnancy, and what should have happened with the child afterwards, i don’t know, well, i didn’t discuss it, based on the correspondence that was studied between them, that such conversations really took place, the husband promised, but how is that in the common people say, fed her with promises, she listened to it all happily, naturally, she had some discontent about this, because well , it is clear that pregnancy does not add health and some vitality, it is still a test for a woman, some kind of wear and tear on the body. no matter how you look at it, a person understands that he already has 38-40 weeks, they are almost 9 months, why she continues to work, it is not clear to me, at the same time, well, where can i do it, what abortion, that is, when the fetus has already formed, that is, about to give birth, i don't quite understand that adults with a certain amount of life experience, why do they come to the point that they are waiting
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for some, i don't know, from the sea of ​​weather, or something, tatyana does not register and to the last her husband believes. and waits for an abortion, but time goes by, despite obesity, a rounded belly appears, the child begins to move, to hide the pregnancy at work, she wears large medical gowns, in august, that is, in the ninth month, she takes a vacation and goes to her parents. the owner of the house explained that she has a daughter who lives permanently in minsk, with her husband and minor daughter. it was a weekday, a normal one. the day before, the daughter came to the village in the nesazhsky district, helped her mother with the housework there, and accordingly, she went to bed, everyone went to bed, the mother said that she was taking a sedative and sleeping pill, accordingly, she fell asleep and did not hear anything about what was happening at all. in addition to the parents, tatyana's daughter, a fifteen-year-old girl, is staying in the house, having passed the exams for
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admission, she came to her grandparents to take a break from the bustle of the city. every evening mom and... fall asleep in the same room, because of the heat the girl lies down on the floor, falling asleep, tatyana didn’t know that the next night would completely turn her life upside down, it was already about an hour, well, i heard a jolt , something like that at night, yeah, a jolt , well, i kind of heard it, i thought that something was wrong, well, i still didn’t think that all this would happen, then this... well, my stomach, my new back, stretching, like deep-deep there, contractions seemed to be starting, that’s why i wrote to my husband, called, or rather immediately that they started for me, like come quickly for me, well, you're starting to give birth, what 's going on, well, everything was lying there, enduring, lying there,
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enduring, that's it, well then that moment, well , the moment happened. i stood up when he came out of you, he made some sounds, well , it seemed to me, it seemed to me that he made something like, well, come on, well, like, well, like snot, yeah, i heard that once, that is, it seemed like he was saying, there was some kind of sob, as she explained it, that's exactly what she said verbatim, exactly a sob, he made it with his nose, but in her opinion, he was already dead, why did she do it? immediately after the birth, she pressed her hand on the neck and, let's say, during this pressure, for some reason , she leaned her whole body on the newborn baby's neck, when he was lying in the bag, did he give any signs of life? well, when he was born, i didn't see that he gave any signs, well, you
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said earlier during the interrogation and verification of the testimony that he made a sound, well, i said that it was... well, not exactly, it seemed to me, yeah, well, maybe it was, or maybe it wasn't, i put the bag, but it leaks, so i put a non-leaking one, yeah, well, that's it, and so, well, she wrapped him up and put him in place, where, this is what you were going to do to him next, i don't know, i didn't even think about it. without waiting for her husband, the woman begins to act independently, i appeared, well, he lay like this, well , on this, on this side, yeah, then what happened moved, somehow the fault was pita, i don't
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remember, was killed around the neck, show me. so that he would take me and we would go there, he never arrived, at the most crucial moment, when, apparently, the suspect labor began, she tried to contact him, at the very last moment... he got scared and simply turned off his phone, he didn't know what to do, naturally, he was at a loss, the husband was actually probably afraid, how can this be described,
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because perhaps he felt some guilt for having brought her to such a state as it turned out to be, and the husband actually just disappeared, turned off his mobile phone, didn't answer calls, well, accordingly, she wrote to him in messengers, that is, you have to understand, that it started somewhere around 11. and literally until the morning she wrote to him about what was happening next with the newborn, the most important information for the investigators, tatyana will be asked about this more than once, before the arrest the woman insisted that the baby was stillborn, but the forensic examination established compression of the neck and bodily injuries on the face, that is, the child was strangled, now the investigators need to collect evidence of the murder.
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on the left hand, supported, supported, that the umbilical cord, yeah, well, well, that's it, like, then
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she wanted to get the placenta, when they twisted it, that what did you do next, i'm guilty, you're twisted around your finger, next, what actions do you perform, well, that's it, i supported him, you said earlier that you took him by the neck, how did you take him by the neck, well, just held him, well , like that. with what force was it? show me also how did you take him by the neck, with which hand did you take him by the neck, so hard that i would press specifically , i didn't press, i just held, you said at least before the interrogation, that and checking the testimony that you pulled by half, how did you pull it, here you already held, here you pulled again, well, for what purpose did they grab the baby by the throat? they pulled the umbilical cord into a bag and put it there, so it was probably not alive, and why didn't you want it to be alive? i don't know, i can say that there were some uncomfortable questions,
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well, there was just some kind of look from the suspect at me, there was an interrogation, we asked her a question, that is, why didn't you ask anyone for help directly at the moment of birth, there was some kind of silence from her and... she looks into my eyes, can't answer anything, and i also asked her a question wonder why immediately after birth you perform some manipulations with the neck, because you know that it is a child, that is, that due to its age and physical development it can somehow resist you, well, or even put up some kind of resistance to you, also silence, nothing more. it was not possible to establish what exactly the mother strangled with the umbilical cord or with her hands, however, this was enough for accusations of murder. if you wanted to save the baby, you could
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have called an ambulance, but in no way hide the corpse in a bag, cutting off the umbilical cord with scissors. what other objects did they use for their actions? it still hasn't come off, well , it hasn't come off completely. and... here and here i reached not a scissors, well, like a quick scissors were in this in this pencil case, well, i cut a little, they got tired of me going for what? well, i thought that i would be able to get up when they put the baby in the bag, what they were going to do with it later, i don't know, i haven't thought about it yet, the placenta performs its functions before the baby is born, and after birth, when becomes unnecessary, it separates from the wall of the uterus and comes out through the woman's birth canal,
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this process is called the birth of the afterbirth, however, tatyana's afterbirth did not come off, she tried to pull it out herself, but due to the great loss of blood and pain she had no strength, when she began to pull the afterbirth out of herself, what happened was that she could not pull it out, in theory it should have come off after a certain time, but when she began to pull it out, she realized for herself that there was a second raft, because firstly, the stomach is not decreased, the second moment, that this very last one comes out. the fateful night, all this time her mother listens to her and tatyana coldly tells about that cannot believe her words. well again i
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pestered, again i wanted to pull it out already here i was already pulling, already as best i could, well it is slippery, well i grabbed this umbilical cord with my nails, so that it would slide with my hands, so that i could pull it out, but it all didn’t work out like that, i wanted to get up, well naturally i started bleeding, i still tried to grab this tip, well... still finish what to the center, yeah, pull, but again nothing, well this one wanted to get up, but i couldn't, well how could i sit on the bed, but for some reason i felt bad, and i went back to bed, and then i wanted to drink, i had to cover myself and put something down, i had to, and in short, well i woke up the child. at the same time, in the same
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room with her mother, a daughter is, a fifteen-year-old girl is sleeping during the birth of the murder of the baby. where was your daughter at that moment, sleeping, demonstrate on a mannequin how she was lying? oh, she is here, right here. i felt bad and i woke her up, she covered me up there, laid me down and gave me water, everything, well, that's it, she didn't start again, i... couldn't
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even get up, and why did you put me in bags? well , because i had this sleeping next to me, uh, well, my daughter slept on the floor, because it was hot in the summer, i wanted to sleep on the floor, and this one, well, so that she wouldn't see anything, well, quickly put everything away, your daughter woke up when you started giving birth, the contractions started, when you were getting up there, walking, no, in short , it was like hell. she lay down like that until the morning and didn't wake up, didn't open her eyes, didn't i heard you would scream when you started having sweets, they weren't like that, i 'm telling you, they weren't so strong to scream, then it turns out she wakes up like that, yeah, and what happens next after that, nothing, she covered me, put this one somewhere, what was it called, oh, i used to put it. i put this blanket under it,
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covered it with a blanket on top, then i asked her for something else to drink, she gave it to me, then i saw that my hands were all covered in blood, my legs were covered in blood, i said, a little, well take a night, wipe it off, an underage girl was questioned, the suspect's daughter said that she slept soundly all night, it was not possible to refute her... words regarding what she did not hear, so her position was that yes, i was in the room, but i did not hear anything, and what happened, i do not know, in the morning i woke up, my mother was lying in bed, did not say anything, the girl brought a pill, gave her something to drink and wiped her bloody feet, as the mother explained, those very days, was the mother able to convince her daughter in this way, this
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will remain? it is very strange, frankly speaking, that the minor daughter, who was sleeping on the floor, did not hear or see anything, although it must be understood that for the same birth , for some reason, scissors were found. hand near the bed itself, although there is a room, in fact, a bed, a closet, a table, well, for some reason, there were scissors and bags there, although she actually says that she did not get up anywhere, although in my opinion , this was still a pre-planned event, because again, she did not tell anyone that she was pregnant, they knew in fact, she is the husband, well, maybe the daughter knew something about it, but during the investigation , some data... was not obtained, blossoms, in addition to the daughter, tatyana's parents wake up, all this time the woman continues to lie in bed, covering a large blood stain with a blanket, what to do next, the woman does not understand,
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she has no strength, a crime has been committed, the closest ones are nearby, who do not guess what is happening, in the morning the mother woke up, went to her daughter, the daughter was lying on the bed, did not say anything in particular, because... the mother explained that the daughter liked to sleep longer, the mother got ready, left on business, upon arrival home she discovered that there were traces of blood on the bed where her daughter was lying, she lifted the blanket and accordingly realized that something was wrong here, she began to question her daughter, the daughter did not explain anything in particular there was a huge amount of blood, amniotic fluid, amniotic fluid, as it is correctly called, so the mother decides to call an ambulance. she calls an ambulance, here she says that there is uterine bleeding, it is clear that her condition is not improving, at the same time she does not ask for any help and only around 4 pm the next day, that is , in fact, 12 hours after the first birth,
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she already does not even ask the mother directly for help, the health worker herself probably understood that she could not do without help, in such conditions an infection could occur in a helpless state. did not answer anything, she is naturally hospitalized, then the neighbors join in to help her put in an ambulance, but again at this moment no one tells anyone about the fact that there is a first fetus, well,
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the suspect in particular, that is, everyone see that there are huge traces of blood about the fact that the child's tube is under the bed, no one tells anyone, that is, it is there in principle from about 5 in the morning. and until the moment when she is taken by ambulance to the neserevsky hospital. as part of the criminal case , the suspect's husband was questioned. after his wife's calls, the man who had been cheating on his wife for 6 months, simply turned off his phone and went to bed, leaving his wife to her fate, then for another 2 days he did not pick up the phone, ignoring calls from his daughter's relatives, while calmly continued. the relationship between the spouses was naturally a little strange, even in terms of the fact that they did not take responsibility for the child, because if there is an unwanted pregnancy, then it is necessary to sort of
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resolve this issue together mutually, she relied on him, who seemed to have agreed with someone there to terminate the pregnancy, but in the end was unable to do so, naturally she was very offended. at him, at least because he abandoned her at the most crucial moment, turned off the phone was in an unknown place, and she had to solve this problem yourself, husband.

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