ksenia, good evening, good, hello, 2024, paris, by the way, you just came back from the olympics, how can you not talk about this event with the secretary general of the national olympic committee. so, paris 2024, four medals. 17 athletes, and 2021 tokyo, seven medals and 108 athletes, that is, it turns out, we are beaten, we fly, well, you know, of course, the final assessment will be given by the management, as you said, i just flew in, but in my personal opinion, the performance was successful, because, as you correctly said, there were few athletes, there were four metallers, as few as ever? yes, as never,

but also as never, we had a truncated list of athletes, and those athletes who went and who managed to do it, it seems to me, they showed themselves with dignity, even those guys who won fourth, fifth, seventh, eighth places, you can’t say that they didn’t fight, and just came there for the tour, well, that is, they already entered the top eight, well, and in addition. eight, and 13 athletes entered the top 10, well, that is, this the indicator at the olympic games athletes who are in the top 10, they are, of course, always contenders for medals, but the president said, the more pressure you have, the more resistance, yes, you can say that these medals are still in spite of, somewhere i think, yes, somewhere i think that it is that...

perhaps somewhere it helped him, they understood that there is no right to make a mistake and it is necessary to show the result right now, there will be no second chance. well, ksenia, in my opinion, you are the ideal guest on sports the subject, yes, in the recent past a direct participant in the olympic games, today sports.

i'm going to answer honestly, of course, it's not easy both there and there, yes, and these are very different areas, it's difficult to compare them, but if you try... to answer this question, then we prepare for any negotiations, in sports , athletes, of course, also undergo serious preparation for competitions, and if you think about it, i understand that we come to negotiations, we have our own position, we have certain analytics, we are prepared, we have our own theses, even if something somewhere goes wrong, you can always take a break, you can always consult, if

something does not work out, try to approach from the other side, negotiations may not stop, if, well, of course, there is a mutual desire, and i believe that almost always, almost always, well, you can find a way out or at least try to find it, in sports it is a little different, if you are perfectly prepared, it is very important that luck is on your side, and my biggest fear, when i was an athlete when... we here before the olympic games, the last night, it was very scary, not because you are not ready, we had training before that, we knew, everything is ready, everything is good, everything is worked out, we prepared for 4 years and we once again came to the conclusion that everything is fine, the biggest fear is this, you know, the moment of surprise, suddenly the ball flies out by accident, a wet hand, or just something goes wrong, and you could not foresee it, so you lie at night and want to ... sleep, and you

are scrolling through the exercise in your head, again, again, and you lose, you think, that's it, no need, i i don't want to, i don't want to do this exercise in my sleep, please, that's enough, but you still do it, it still rolls out somewhere by accident. there's a ball, for example, i was afraid of this most of all, because i understood that everything that flies, even if it flies a little with a mistake, you can rush and catch it anywhere in the field of the site, but if something accidentally flies out there and goes wrong, then this scared me most of all, therefore in this regard , it is precisely that there is a moment of unpredictability, you have only one chance if you make a mistake, especially in our sport, if you're wrong, that's it... you're out of the fight for medals and you have to wait for the next 4 years, in my work i know that it's a little bit, let's say, not passed, let's try differently, so i probably

feel a little more comfortable in terms of these moments that i just explained to you, but again i'll repeat that these are completely different areas, and i get great pleasure from being an athlete and representing my country. in international arenas, just as working in this position and already defending it in in such a political vein. well, look, ksenia, you are a medalist of the olympic games in beijing and london. yeah. honored master of sports. and what brought you to gymnastics, yes, and did not allow you to leave the sport, even after a successful career. i love sports very much. since childhood and well, since when i started doing sports, since i was 5 years old, it’s not because i myself fell in love with it so much, of course, my parents and my coach, who found me in kindergarten, who went to kindergartens, looked, as far as there is more or less

promising children, flexible, their father was an athlete, yes, their father was an athlete, their mother was an athlete, and my dad and i used to go to training together, he... pushed them to the idea that let it be gymnastics, and in general, to be honest, i 'll tell you that gymnastics for girls, especially , is an excellent sport, and for boys, by the way , too, i mean artistic gymnastics, here is general physical training, this will be an excellent base in the future

for any kind of sport, so i recommend everyone to send their children to gymnastics, well, i'll even emphasize, probably, especially in belarus, because as it was in belarusian... and many people talk about it, but it is absolutely true, so they flew from the airport to the hotel, in this case to the olympic village, a very strict schedule, there must be maximum discipline, because you also know, if someone is late for the bus, that's it, if you use the wrong

bus, for example, your car, something breaks down, no one will wait for you there, you must strictly adhere to the schedule, so the athletes, they arrive in the village, they have a training plan, lunch, training again, dinner, sleep, that's it, they don't see anything, that is, well, sometimes you get to go somewhere into the city on the last day, if you don't fly out the next day, but more often than not, you leave the country, i had the opportunity to see the olympics, other sports, olympic facilities, talk to people, see what teams they have, how they prepare for... how you were received in paris, how our athletes were received in paris given all these sanctions, did you personally feel any negativity or the opposite,

warming, or maybe no difference at all, what were the feelings in this regard? well, you know, we were very well received. it's true, and i don't know how sincere it was, but we didn't feel any pressure, any negativity, and i read an interview, all the athletes confirm this. in this regard, how we will be received, i didn't want the athletes to have even more pressure, because they have enough different

problems, and i wanted to protect them from this, so that they could focus only on the performance, that is, as i understand it, relations between people, they were normal and remain normal, the problems are always in politics 100%, between politicians mainly, yes absolutely, yes, moreover, that is, no one refused to go out on the same mat there for the same training with you, no, no, no, what are you talking about? "hi, we are so glad to see you, how great that you came, well done and so on, when they already started winning medals, then they say, well guys, you came, the team is small, you haven't performed for 2 years, the conditions are so difficult and you perform, well, just bravo, to me probably they say that normal life will break through anyway. even through the asphalt, okay, despite the fact that they rolled it up, but we will break through, today what is the main task

of the legs to return our athletes to the international arena, to find alternative sites, or are there any other options? these 2 years we have spent very close work with the russian federation, with our colleagues, friends, partners and so often said yes that it was a time of opportunity. we perceive it absolutely this way, because russian athletes are the best athletes in the world, we had the opportunity to compete on equal terms in some places, and to learn from them in others, and it seems to me that this helped us a lot and did not allow us to lose our athletic form over these 2 years and to show very good results today, including at the olympic games, but of course, it seems to me that all athletes would like to reach the international level and prove that they are

the best in the world, so such a task is before nok, after all, to fully recover in international sports as soon as possible, it is worth it, because the time will come anyway time. when everything will fall into place it will be as it should be, so why not do it earlier now, and not put it off until later, well there is hope for los angeles 28, yes, there is hope, of course we are doing the work, it is too early to talk about the results, but we are making an effort, and i can say that it is moving in a positive direction.

it seems to me that now, yes, focus on the future, we can discuss for a long time what happened, was it fair, unfair, our attitude to all this, how many letters we have there they wrote with our position and so on, but you can’t change it as a fact, you need to accept it, it happened, so now you need to direct all your aspirations, all your strength to ensure that... it doesn’t continue, but it needs to be restored, and that everything moves in

the right direction. you know, i always draw parallels, maybe someone doesn’t like it, but in sports, in culture, as you correctly recalled, at the same eurovision, yes, some can be politicized, others can’t, someone calls for everyone to be equal, in not depending on political views, someone makes money on this. to put it mildly, certain insinuations, so i, frankly speaking, really hope that finally the coubertin principle, which was once, yes, proclaimed about equality and tolerance in regardless.

i am proud that we, belarusians, somehow behave civilized, always find somehow civilized ways, and beautifully declare our positions, and i hope that the whole world in principle will also be able to appreciate this, notice appreciate, and maybe be such a soft power, but in the end we will achieve our goals, well four medals from 17 athletes is more than a good demonstration. somehow we agreed to continue to perform like this, naturally, i really hope for it, yes, well the position, the position, but it is clear to me, yes, it is correct today, absolutely correct, well i saw that you were watching

the gymnasts' performance in the stands, yeah, yes, the coach, one of the winners. this is germany, she is also belarusian, yes, the girl herself was born in russia, yes, a beautiful performance, but without the best in the world, that's what you felt exactly at that moment, when she was performing, well, i understand that you don’t want to, maybe ethically, discuss the complexity of the program and so on, but my personal feeling is, well, you know, as for the girls who won, they used their opportunity, the winner of this olympiad was the one who... made no mistakes, and as has already been written in many places, this is still considered the victories of the belarusian and russian schools, but to tell the truth, of course, i felt offended, because i know that our girls, alina gornasko and nastya salos, including russian athletes, they would,

of course, they wouldn't have gotten lost here, they would have forced a fight, they would have participated.

that for us belarusians and russians, for us this is a sore subject, our athletes didn't go to compete and we know that here they could have forced a fight, here maybe even...

only now we know that our girls could have fought, and in 10-15 years no one will remember this at all, only specialists in this sport will know that well, yes, there was such a case, and then they will forget, well, okay, well, anyway, yes, you could have named the sports in any case, which we did not participate, did not go, but we could definitely apply, where we could still easily compete, track and field.

it is difficult to make an analysis of some international competition, because maybe not everyone came there stronger, maybe it is being saved, maybe someone does not need this start, therefore, in principle, based on previous world championships, one could roughly imagine that this person, he will compete and so on. okay, ksenia, that's for sure, yes, the same gymnasts would certainly have taken places in pudio, in russia, i liked the proposal that an athlete who has better results than the winner of the olympics, in the next 4 years should be called the winner of the olympic champions, i like it that way,

you have such a title, even if not officially, you know, it's all good, and i really like it why, because your compatriots, they really support their athletes, this is very important, and i also... i liked it so much that on social networks, especially for the winners, who won medals, people wrote so many good words congratulating and were proud of them, and even those who did not win medals, but fought for, just for every step, that is, it was clear that they did not give up, they tore, they still tried to show their best result, our people supported them, they say: well done, everything will work out, then next time it will work out, we were rooting for you, everything is fine, hold on, and this gives a lot of strength, so, of course,

it is great when your country and your people support you, but still, athletes want international recognition, well, you know, i, as a recent tv person, would probably do it this way, that every time our or russian athlete will show the result of you... from the olympic champion, here to emphasize this directly in plain text, of course, it's wonderful, here literally beat the results of the olympic champion. the conversations are interesting and positive, we learned that there are some difficulties, well, in terms of physical labor, you understand that well , as it were, you have to work, well, we got tired, of course, but there was a lot of romance in this, i began to collect coupons for public

transport.

very close relations between belarus and russia within the framework of the union state, and we consider all problems, all issues through the prism of joint activities, we are a state that is more than allies, do not miss it on the belarus 244 tv channel

. and how then ksenia in such conditions and not to lose shape and motivation and is it possible in principle to call this emotional pressure on competitors, namely, when people until the last, well, in some sports, they did not know until the last whether they would go or not, you remember, then at first one number licenses, then they cut them again, cut them, well , to poison letvinovich. they started at a certain point, that is , can these things be considered real psychological pressure, emotional pressure specifically to knock a person off track? i don’t think that it was done specifically, but definitely what you’re talking about, the pressure was certainly great and all the athletes who had a chance to go there, here’s teboria , also a very good girl, we immediately

... didn’t name her, it didn’t work out to go there, uh, everyone hoped until the very end, moreover, i will tell you that when the decision was already made that, mm, that’s it, you won’t go, we won’t allow you there, conditionally for some reason, although they didn’t explain the reasons, our athletes still had hope, and maybe they will change their minds, because, you see, the olympics are once every 4 years, you can’t go to it even next year, all this. wait, and it’s very difficult to stay in peak form, to train, some are already starting their own families, some have some injuries at the peak of age too, and for some, sports age ends very quickly, of course, for the same gymnasts 100%, and you well it turns out you lose your chance, and you will not have another opportunity in the near future, so everyone of course really wanted to go, they all

understood the difficult conditions. 2 years without international competitions, constant restrictions, without their own symbols, all this was pressing, plus emotionally, we will go, we will not go, these swings, but even in these conditions they were all ready to go and show the result, all the same it is the grossest violation of the olympic principle, well, okay, this same olympics is basically called one of the most scandalous, and the last supper at the opening was discussed by almost everyone.

it's time to propose making separate competitions, well, for gays , for hermaphrodites, yes, for those who feel like the opposite sex, or am i exaggerating, well, that would be a reasonable approach then, let's do it. admission criteria, absolutely, admission criteria that should be agreed upon by the international federation, the international olympic committee and, probably, international commission, when everything is clear, structured understandably, then it is somehow easier

to resolve this situation without much excitement regarding this, and as for the olympics and the opening, in fact, it seems to me that only the lazy did not discuss it, i have already managed to talk with you behind the scenes that... memes and various discussions, that it seems to me, i have seen everything, i will not

see anything new there, i have already, you know, as a summary, i have watched it all, but if in general, let's say, i don't have anything about the olympics either, although there was so much in general games, then... of course there were very beautiful olympic facilities, very cool work with the spectators, the stadiums were full everywhere, any qualification, qualification competition, that is, not even the final, the hall was always full, the stands were just bursting, well , especially after the pandemic, this is very important, yes, yes, after the pandemic, especially there were two olympics with the pandemic , tokyo and china were absolutely empty. and maybe that's why it impressed us so much, absolutely everyone, probably, they were just hungry for a spectacle, especially when such a big start, and it was is quite well promoted in the media space, so it has generated a

lot of interest, both among the french and the guests, well, and remember our runner, yes timonovskaya, who ran away from the olympics in a spectacular way last time. she never ran again, after all, for a medal, this is the case when it is better to train than to talk a lot, well, you know, probably, in fact, that the result speaks for itself, even, probably, i don’t want to spend a lot of airtime discussing her person, i know that even being at the games, that is, she found time to talk... all sorts of nasty things about our country, and it surprised me a little, because i think, after all, you have it good, you live in the country you wanted, you can say how good it is for you here, why are you saying how bad it is for us, tell me,

how i was 3 years old, when a person is doing well, he definitely doesn’t say nasty things, so well, i don’t want to discuss it not because we are some kind of noble, and they are not, because it’s just.

that it is precisely because of this that they have such actions, they did something, maybe even based on from some of their fears, thoughts, insecurities and so on. yes, i think that many of them now regret it, and you also know that many people admit it, yeah, so now it seems to me that again, we don’t need to focus on, that ’s how it was then, that’s all bad, and how could they then and what do they think now, we need to think about how we can do it now so that , first of all, this doesn’t happen. focus on the future and think about what we can do for

our country so that it becomes better, and so that we, including each of us in our own place, did not make the mistakes that were possible then, so that this does not happen again, these are golden words, really, we need to think about our country first of all, the only thing is, you know, such a remark, it seems to me that when a person has ideals, yes, then they will definitely not change, in one day. under the influence of circumstances, well, they either exist or they do not, well, it does not happen, that well, let's do it here now, yes, you are driving through minsk, you see, this is an amazing gymnastics palace, yes, well, it is really beautiful, the ice palace, cool, yes, the velodrome is magnificent, true, well, it's a little outside the city of the thunder channel, soon there will be a swimming pool of international standard, yes, why are we still investing in this in such a volume, how do you explain it? probably not as a functionary, as an athlete, and as

a functionary as well, i generally believe that if the state has the time, energy and money to engage in sports culture, it is a successful country, which means that in all other respects it is doing well, then of course this is a good basis for the development of sports in general, and... also for conducting international competitions on the territory of our country, and what can show our country from the best side better than tourists, guests, athletes, participants of events who come here, we can talk a lot about how good it is here, everything is fine there and nothing is happening at all, everything is calm, come and see, only when they come. they will truly understand this, so, of course, this,

i am sure that it will pay for itself in the future, definitely, and this will be expressed and not only in our victories in the sports field, but also the image that our country will earn when it hosts such big events, by the way, there was a question about... the world cup and the european games that we had now at the olympics , 5 years have passed, but they come to us and say: "oh, hello, it's great there, listen, well, we were at your games, how good it was there, how cool, we just remember it to this day with such warmth, they remember the country, yes, and the country, the games, everything that is connected with belarus, they come up to you and say this, and of course it ’s very nice, okay, well, i know that for some countries an athlete.” the olympic games, they weren’t a priority, they have

the asian games, also winter and summer, the games of the future, joint competitions with russia, were recently held, these are the venues where our athletes can now show themselves and what can push aside, if, let’s say, not the olympic games, then at least such, well, the usual european, world championships, here is an alternative, what can be for us be interesting? well, you know, i probably won't agree that now for the asian games, for many asian countries the priority, we have now seen that the olympic games today are still the main competition of the four-year period, but i agree that the asian games are held at the highest level, and it's cool, great, they, we also talked to them, they have so many of their own competitions, regional at different levels. from

further, a lot, they compete with each other, and the result of this rivalry in children, juniors, adult athletes and so in their region gives great results, they have performed well now, especially in martial arts, they have some amazing results at the olympic games, so as for us, of course, we will be happy to participate in competitions on the asian continent, if we have one. in general, the more competitions, as a rule, it is always better, because especially such, you know, complex multi-competitions, that is, where many types participate.

we will come to the olympic village, i thought, that we will come to the village, that there will be cows walking there, that there will be some small houses, yes, well, what does a village in belarus look like and i think, what kind of village is this at all, it doesn’t look like a village, that is, i think that our young athletes, who will already try themselves there in such competitions, like the children of asia, for example, in which we, thanks to the russian olympic committee, are now successfully participating, we have already participated in two competitions and there are other competitions where we can show ourselves, and i i hope that god willing we will return

to the international arena in the future, and of course we will be happy to participate in all competitions, i wouldn’t even call them alternative, no, it’s just... an additional platform to compete in sports, well, there is still a chance to get into the asian games, i understand that we are a country in the center of europe, you know, it’s difficult for now, there are no such discussions yet, that is, we need to change the rules a little, but there are no discussions yet, yes, that is, if russia belongs to both europe and asia, then of course we do, well specifically to europe, okay, ksenia, let's not be disingenuous. but still, many athletes, patriots , had different positions regarding the participation of our athletes in the olympics in a neutral status, well, if we don't talk about this, it will probably be wrong, many would be categorically against it, at the same time the president said something that it's up to the athlete himself, if you've already qualified and are going, then

hit the mortuary, yes, well, and of course he congratulated everyone on the victory, here you are, remaining an athlete, yes, let's say, not a functionary, they would say thank you for such a position, to the president, i would definitely say thank you, and i am sure that all the athletes who managed to go to the games and prove themselves, they will still thank him for this, the second point, why it seems to me that our president has such a position, he is an athlete himself, and he understands all this perfectly. he understands and he understands why it was necessary, that is, he feels how important it is, of course, all athletes spend their lives on this, like me, i have been doing it since i was 5 years old, this is the meaning of their life, then at one moment, then they have been working on this their whole lives for 15-20 years, there is nothing here, that's it, nothing is happening,

so the first thing is support , including from the president, that... guys, we believe in you, go and show it there, including, i know that our coach, gontolna vlasova, who is the coach of our trampoline athletes, olympic medalists, we discussed this situation for a very long time and...