good afternoon! on air of the first national channel of belarusian radio and tv channel belarus24 analytical project topical microphone. my name is evgeny meleshko, and i will immediately introduce our guest, our guest. this is the chairperson of the belarusian union of women, the head of the international television and radio company mir in the republic of belarus, olga shpilevskaya. hello. hello. well, of course, today we will talk about women. and so i.

noticed such a trend in the world in general, shuttle democracy has become so popular today, americans all over the world, the chinese, the indians are also in fashion now, well, and olga aleksandrovna shpilevskaya, we practically don’t see you in the country, because your last trips, i’ll start with the last one. uzbekistan, before that mongolia, eh, what about zimbabwe, i understand there are more trips ahead, but what can i say, of course, our women are under the special care of the state, personally under the care of the head of state, alexander grigorievich lukashenko, well, and i understand that you are sowing goodness all over the world, well, you understand correctly. on the one hand,

of course, you said right that maybe you don't see me often in the country lately, but believe me, my heart and soul are always in the country, yes, because the more you see the world externally, the more you understand and appreciate the country in which you live, and the conditions that are created in this country for the comprehensive development of any woman, well, and not only women, it seems to me that we understand that we have a socially oriented state that gives everyone equal opportunities for the equal development of their potential. shuttle diplomacy is gaining momentum, and this is great, and you know why it is great, because in fact you can correspond for a very long time, communicate online, have some contacts, but nothing will ever replace a face-to-face conversation, this is as the president said at a meeting with the teaching staff, yes , no gadget will replace a teacher at school, in the same way, your presence in the environment and offline communication will never be replaced by any online platform. and no gadget,

of course, today every country is trying to attract to its territory as many representatives of different countries as possible, yes , in order to show the potential of its country and in order to become an international platform, it is very pleasant that belarus is invited to all forums, believe me, there are very few countries there, our neighbors, who are represented at this forum, yes , at best it is a representative of the russian federation, and even then not everywhere, belarus is represented everywhere.

contacts that develop somewhere into the economic plane, and somewhere it develops, has an important political meaning, yes, because when you come to a platform where america is represented, represented by the same assistant kamala harrison, yes, or the european union is represented by some of our international organizations, when you say that you are from belarus, people's faces change when they allow you, well, rather, give you the opportunity to speak on this platform, when you talk about what conditions there are in belarus, what belarus lives on, how women are developing in belarus, when these people see that you are not a person who came there dressed strictly, with a strict bun on your head, and you do not read some theses from the text written for you, they understand that this is far from what they are trying to present from belarus, they understand that women are absolutely free here, that they have absolutely equal rights, that their interests are protected at the highest level, that we are not a governmental society.

women's labor, the development of women's business, it seems to me, today, as women's business is developing in zimbabwe, in few places it is developing in european countries, the second visit was already specifically with a women's delegation from zimbabwe, where all the industries of interest to them were represented, agriculture,

they have women working, by the way, in metal mining, no need to be surprised at this, in heavy industry, there is a woman's hand everywhere, it seems to me, this is even visible today. visit, or rather yesterday's visit of the zimbabwean delegation, who is the head of the delegation, is also a woman, so this women's business and the feminine principle is very strong there, so when we went at the invitation of the first lady, the visit took place very quickly, it was supported by the head of state, of course we went with those women from our side who also understand how to establish economic ties and who can specifically offer them something in the obvian side, and well , the potatoes - this was a gesture from the head of state, because the first year zimbabwe really liked the potatoes that she tried here on our territory, it differs from the zimbabwean one, it differs in that, as she said, it is more tender in consistency and taste, and it is suitable for baby food, and you know that this is precisely

the children's topic, it is special for any woman, so this task of feeding children to feed children with a really high-quality product, they also have, hence their interest in our... processing of our baby food, in our, in our agriculture, because zimbabwe, like us, is an agrarian country, they, no need to think about the fact that this is distant africa, in fact, they have built the largest logistics center in harare, which can very quickly deliver any product to any point in the world, the task of this center, as i understand it, which the first lady puts forward, is to collect products from women farmers, small ones, bring them to this large logistics center and thus...

the state, paying attention specifically to zimbabwe, to spread further to countries, yes, neighboring countries, so this is very promising, it is difficult, firstly, it is difficult to enter their market, because they do not let everyone in, and i will say that this is a big plus that they open the doors for belarusian business, not for everyone at all white people, let's say, the doors there are open, because they remember very well that they were a british colony not long ago, this moment of mistrust has remained with them there. even i remember when i was president, i think it was in 23, at the beginning

of february, then the phone was ringing off the hook for the president of zimbabwe, his colleagues, the presidents of neighboring countries, how were you able to lure lukashenko here, yeah, yeah, what did you promise him that he came to you with such serious intentions with such serious proposals, well, we have opens doors everywhere. the head of state then receives other delegations and judges us, this is true, and if the head of state comes somewhere, look, he always says that our policy is an open policy, we are not going to solve our national interests at the expense of some nationalities, yes, we come with an open heart, with an open soul, we bring technologies, and we also expect that we will be treated similarly, that is, an equal works with an equal, it does not matter what is your skin color, it doesn't matter how developed or undeveloped your... country is, we offer equal partnership relations for any country, this is what is especially valued,

here it is as if nothing can ever be violated or let down, so that's why i say that entering these countries is a long game, because coming with a smaller business is more difficult and it takes longer to get results from there, but because i see that no delegation will see this, because we were not part of the official delegation, we could see much more, communicate with much more, ordinary women who live and work there, and now all the countries of the world are there, because everyone is interested in coming there, everyone is interested in coming there, everyone understands that this is not a momentary return, that this is a long-term game, because the future, including sales markets, is just there, we see their demographic situation, we see how their population is growing, while the population of the european union is falling catastrophically, yes. and we understand that there everything is focused on the future, these are steps

that will give us an economic effect, not specifically for us, but for our children, our grandchildren, if we go there and settle there, if we bring all these things to the end and do not talk somewhere about how let's live today, it is better for us to put something there today and get feedback from there, than we will play the long game, we need to understand that this is exactly what we need and count on the long-term perspective, well, your mission is... very difficult, even based on the fact that, what you are now saying, about the fact that you have to promote our interests , including, probably, well, it is not even a woman's job, but at the same time, what is there, that is, tell me, at a high, at the highest level , they listen to what you bring from there, your opinion, your view on what you saw in this or that country, well , whether it is in zimbabwe, although well... it is indeed a closed country, indeed and the richest country, it is a mineral resource, we

have our own interests there, not only to promote our technology, but probably also to get something from them certainly the general extraction of minerals - yes, so your opinion, it is taken into account when making decisions, i will say so, certainly women's opinion is taken into account, certainly, on the one hand, as far as the head of state is concerned, i am sure that he follows and sees our agenda, he understands, he always says,

well, you know, it is always good when there are several opinions, let's say so, yes, you understand, if everyone listened to you and spoke as you think, well, as you think it is necessary to do, nothing would work out, because truth is born only in a dispute, women see one side of the coin, men see the other side of the coin, it is not for nothing that we are different , yes, but we need to find somewhere this golden mean, which will bring out not your, not my

interests, not women's, they are men's, but will see these interests of the country, and therefore our children in the right direction, this is the most important thing, it seems to me. here in this regard , we all need to work together, i will completely agree with you, thank you, the more they listen to you, i am interested in your last trip, this is uzbekistan, a large joint business forum, women's business forum, we have a lot of women businesswomen, if i'm not mistaken, i think there are about 40%, 40%, yes, women who are engaged in business, in general, these are successful women, true, what was agreed upon, well, there was a lot of information, but here is your personal impression, how effective it was, and the documents that were signed, there were specific contracts, but there were also such framework agreements, here is how much this business form will work, well , in general, everything always starts with framework agreements agreements, then it develops into specific contracts, this is the second

business forum for women entrepreneurs , belarusian-uzbek, the first one was held a year ago on the initiative of natalia ivanovna. with the support of tanzila, natal ivanna, these are also two women leaders who are interested in the development of women's business, of course, already from the first forum we saw that the second one will definitely take place, because there is a demand for it, at the second forum, by the way, there were more men represented as business leaders, because already here through our female contacts we understand that large enterprises are coming out on top, well , as if to the first position, signing a contract... the representation was the widest in uzbekistan, but i am always more interested, because what concerns large businesses, it is always visible, that is , we see, for example, going into a tashkent store, we see kommunarka candies, and we understand that this means that two businesses are working well, yes, or we see our tractors on their territory, we see our light suits industry on their territory, these

are stories about big business, i am always interested in smaller stories, what this gives to small and medium-sized businesses, because we are trying to bring to uzbekistan, just as uzbekistan brought to us, and we invited our girls, namely these representatives, because today the future is also with them, they must develop successfully economically, expand their production, which means creating jobs and also giving work to our women, we are interested in this, of course, because a successful woman is a successful family, this is also such a direct story, and i asked the chairman of our women's wing, the belarusian union of women, also ours... the wing of women entrepreneurs is a little over a year old, but we see how interested women are, they come and work successfully, the businesses that women open are socially oriented, which is also important, yes, this is inclusion, this is also what concerns the green economy, which is popular all over the world today and is developing, women are very careful in business in terms of ecology, everything and such subtle,

let's say, things of matter, where a man might not pay attention, so she told me, gave the following facts: one thing... they sew products from cotton fabrics, they signed a contract for the supply of fabrics, this narrowed the logistics, narrowed the costs of... the rate of raw materials, and therefore, made it possible to produce more and cheaper, but at the same time the same quality products, which again increased the income of the enterprise, then there is all this is developing into something concrete, therefore the interest is growing, we had a charter flight, and we could take a certain number of women, a set, yes, willing to go, and there were even more, and such industries

are even completely unexpected, there is heavy industry, somewhere the industry was represented by women, yes, because well... they are everywhere, yes, in mongolia too, after all, you flew to uzbekistan from mongolia, there was an international women's forum, you spoke there with a report, you just talked about the green economy, i think, yes, including the green economy, yes, for what purpose did we agree, well, and if in uzbekistan it is still a business forum and how it flows into specific projects in specific ideas, then in mongolia of course it is... i didn’t wear it, there were no contracts signed, and we signed an agreement with the women’s union of mongolia on cooperation, and this means that we are waiting for the mongolian side already on our territory in order to... already introduce women closer to each other in different directions, yes, the main thing is that we established this contact, for me this was the main task, because mongolia is a country that

interests absolutely everyone today, all international organizations were present at this forum, even women's organizations were present, yes, women's organizations that work on and you understand that there is a lot of america there, there are a lot of united states of america, they are represented everywhere, they are trying to lead such an aggressive... to imagine themselves in a black strict suit with a bun on their head, and it seems to them that we have a police regime here, no one allows anyone to develop when you have the opportunity

to convey to these people on an international platform that your country exists, to show specific photographs so that they can see how the country is developing, what beautiful women we have, what our women do, that we work as a non-governmental public organization, we have access to the head of state and the head of state is in our... ratings, because we are in very good positions in terms of gender equality or inequality, how to say it correctly, yes, our country is quite high, right there, if in

specific figures, even according to international in uzbekistan, the economic component was very important, but in mongolia, for me , it was precisely this political situation that was important, the presentation of the country, the presentation of the women who live in this country, the story about the opportunities that are provided to women, because for them, for example, even hearing about the fact that... our constitution stipulates equal rights for men and women in obtaining an education in healthcare, and the fact that the labor code regulates equal opportunities for pay, we do not we divide by gender, yes, because often even from european women you can hear that while occupying the same positions, a man gets a higher salary, a woman gets a lower salary. today, if you have the position of editor, they don’t write there: woman or man, you have a rate that you get, regardless of who... by gender, therefore, well, for me it was precisely this component that was important, i really hope that we coped with it, well, yes, this is also people’s diplomacy, of course,

yes, yes, and tell me, olga alexandrovna, do you bring any impressions from there, or let's say, traditions or attitudes towards women that we lack and that perhaps should be introduced into our society. although i understand that you most often visit the global south, the countries of the global south, this is a different culture, but suddenly you discovered something there, you are an observant person, well, i can't say directly that this is a different culture in terms of attitudes towards women, it seems to me that throughout the world women have always been revered and will be revered as a woman, as a mother, as a progenitor, take any religion, any culture, everywhere a woman still has a special status. special significance, and as if, well, probably, it is shown by men there in different ways, yes, freedoms, maybe somewhere less, somewhere more, but everywhere a woman

has always been respected and honored and what our men lack, well, i don’t know, that’s in my opinion, and i really like to come, well , i mean, i love uzbekistan in what sense, despite the fact that uzbekistan is actively developing economically and women are actively enter businesses, women are actively involved in political activities, women are actively building careers, getting an education, their birth rate is not falling, and today the male population prevails over women, over females, that is , more men are born, as if their life expectancy increases. when i ask the question: aren't you afraid that this is already such a global practice, the higher the economic position of a woman, the more opportunities she has to realize herself in her career, the lower the birth rate will be in this country, because such women, as a rule, give birth to one child, two children, and yes, and the first birth is postponed ,

of course, to a later date, they get married later, they have a different tendency, women who... have children, who improve their economic situation, give birth to fourth fifths, that is, three children is a normal situation, give birth to fourth fifths, so how to instill this beautiful fashion and good tendency for our women, how to explain that a child is not a hindrance, well, the state pays attention to this today, this is kindergartens, the possibility of remote work for women, which is fixed by state salaries even pro forma, well, you understand here somewhere here in our ideology...

the formation of a further family, the birth of children, yes, because well, for a woman , a strong male shoulder is important, a strong male shoulder for a girl begins with the shoulder of her father, with the example of this father, yes, therefore, probably, i do not want to offend anyone, of course, from men, but probably, i would like in this regard, that after all, women in our remained more feminine, and men took themselves this masculine principle more specifically, it is necessary to hold a women's forum for men, a women's forum for men.

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