"i'm hoping for a bonus, if everything works out, then at the end of the month we'll go see your dream, and we 're definitely transporting a banana, exactly, everything is in order, the goods are in place, i told you, and what's actually going on here, and it feels like we're not transporting bananas, your job is not to think, to follow the management's instructions, denis, or we cooperate, or the next, i think, 10 birthdays." wives, you will meet in

prison, choose, you conducted your investigation too noisily, now you have to die, three, four, five, six, i beg you, please show me the body, i beg you, i need to see it, listen, it's impossible, your hands, they are so similar to my husband's hands, it can't be, alina, forgive me, but your husband died 2 years ago. watch the tv series native hands on the belarus 24 tv channel . belarus's entry into the sco is, firstly, a vote of confidence, and for small belarus, which is geographically sandwiched between the main geopolitical. forces themselves, it is like

a quality mark, for a long time they tried to convince us that the integration vector can only be western, i really want to hope that all these inspirers are well known to our competent authorities, we in turn have something to put into the common brics piggy bank, there is no need to take connubial positions, we are donors, we will have to sacrifice something, some of our interests, compromise is generally an instrument of diplomacy, as they say, god forbid to live in an era of change, but nevertheless it happens, american political scientist... political figure - brzyzinski called central asia a great chessboard. the great game, it continues. hello, the program say, don't be silent is on the air. in the studio. welcome, but

today we will talk about the east. good afternoon. yuri mikhailovich, the belarusian institute of strategic studies recently created a center for research on the shos and brix. well, that sounds pretty general, i would like some details, what exactly will be studied by the center and what are the priority areas? it so happens that the head of the center is in front of you, so i will answer in the first person, indeed, in mid-july we w... created a center for research on the sco and brics, its main function will be to perform the functions of the secretariat of the working body of the national center for research on the sco. this status is officially assigned to our institute at the level of the presidential administration

and confirmed by the ministry of foreign affairs of the republic of belarus. in addition, we undertake the task of coordinating scientific expert and analytical work. on a national scale on the topic of the sco, in the plans for next year to create a public expert and advisory council, where to invite, in general, all interested parties who are involved in this issue in one way or another, and another task will be to ensure coordination with the sco forum and the brics council of expert centers, in the future, when we actually join them. by the way, our application to join the sco forum. this community of analytical centers of the organization is already under consideration by the national coordinators of the member countries, that is, we have joined, we are already a full member of the sco, but to join the forum - this is some separate procedures, but we are already practically there, because the procedure

is by default. yuri mikhailovich, well then the question is for you as the head of the research center of shos and brix, are there enough specialists to conduct the research or are you experiencing a shortage of personnel? do you know?

after working out the distribution, i understand that my question - this may be a shot in the air, but i really hope that it will be heard by those who make the relevant decisions, the responsible persons, so to speak, so i answer this way with such reflection, but leading to a direct answer, then as for bc, we are generally closing our functionality, recently a school for young analysts opened, you are looking for growing ones there, this is our personnel. very talented guys, during the year we selected them, if i may say so, the best of the best remained, out of almost 200 people, we selected 25, i think, but we will also be watching, because we would also like to expand the expert community, and this will be useful not only for bc, but also for

mass media, this is not the only project of work with youth that we are implementing in the bs, the decision on belarus joining the sco was made on july 4 at the summit in astana. let's remember this historical moment, let's see. ladies and gentlemen, the ceremony of signing the decisions on granting the republic of belarus full membership in the shanghai cooperation organization begins. the heads of state of the shanghai cooperation organization sign. the decision of the council of heads of state of the shanghai organization cooperation, on the completion of the procedure for the admission of the republic of belarus.

i am sure that today will become a bright page in the history of belarus. can we say? in modern times, responsibility and consistency are the categories that determine strength, reliability,

self-confidence, and for small belarus, which is geographically sandwiched between the main geopolitical poles of power, this is like a quality mark. let's go back to the roots, remember how it all began in the shanghai cooperation organization, when it was just was created, then in relation to it there were many skeptical remarks, there were some critical moments.

which was created at the dawn of the 21st century as a platform for stopping border problems primarily related to the situation in central asia in the central asian region around extremism, terrorism and separatism, and today's days, in general, pose a number of serious challenges and risks for the sco, but in general the point is that the organization does not stand still, it is developing in the spirit of the times, in my opinion, the main thing is that to respond to the spirit of the times, it must modernize, improve,

follow the shanghai spirit as a basic goal-setting, try to seek compromises, find solutions to difficult, complex issues, and as an organization, an international organization of a new type, try to look beyond the horizon of future events and trends, here, by the way, the role of expert diplomacy is very important and in the sco forum platform, which i... spoke about a little higher, for a long time they tried to convince us that the vector of integration can only be western, yes, euro-atlantic, so to speak, and for many post-soviet spaces this turned out to be a dangerous illusion, we saw what it led to, we are seeing it now too, that is, these are conflicts and wars that are tearing apart, destroying entire peoples and countries, can we say that belarus is important for the sco, including as an example, that...

the realization of its national interests, without prodding, without coercion, without mentoring, from a position of its own dignity, and at the same time in the east, as far as i understand, no military alliances are being created, and unlike western countries. that is, the same sco organization - is it rather economic cooperation, cultural and so on, rather than, say, the west uniting under the guidance of nato in order to fight with someone? you know, i would not idealize, much less demonize the west or the east, because in the same asia, the relations

there are far from always unambiguous and these two poles are not the same as you. attitude to external partners, in the same asia, many elites, they are the product and beneficiary globalization, very tightly installed in the western-centric system, on the other hand, in the same west there are many sensible people who perfectly understand the harmfulness of the policies of their governments, they treat us with respect and kindness, by the way, this is our resource for the future, that is why , reasoning in such categories of relations between the east and the west, i would

say that belarus, one might say, is unique in the organization of the shanghai cooperation organization, it became the purely first, purely european country, a member organization, and now it turns out that the sco directly borders nato and eu countries. how does this change the geopolitical alignment in our region and in the organization's area of ​​responsibility as a whole? the eurasian security space has grown its own european one due to belarus. the sco today really borders the european union and nato, this is an objective reality, but this does not mean that we are threatening anyone. the same charter of the sco is based on its principles of non-aggression, respect for the sovereignty of territorial integrity, not the use of force, threats, force, the resolution of all conflicts through dialogue and diplomacy, not directed against anyone,

another thing is that the sco has, for example, an agreement on holding joint military exercises. yeah, i think experts will understand what we are talking about, but can you explain to us, or is this some kind of classified information, no, why is the agreement open, the point is that aggression against one of the csto members is considered aggression against all the others, that is, it is like in nato, article 5, yes, that is absolutely right, in sco, unlike the euro-atlantic bloc, does not have the hegemony of one state and dictatorship in

terms of values, as well as coercion to strictly follow the course that is determined by the dominant side. compliance in their implementation, that's basically what the institutional reform launched at the samarkand summit in 2022 is aimed at, i think that we

will generally come to this, yeah, that is, they need to mobilize a little, well, from my point of view, yes, but at the same time you listed those exercises and a number of events that they they are conducting, it seems to me, they are simply conducting such a parallel and consistent policy in this regard, well, this is a normal routine practice of teaching. although in a certain sense, yes, this is a signal and projection of power, do we have something to learn from our eastern, so to speak, well, partners, can they already be called in a defensive sense? well, you know, i am not a military expert and am not ready to reason deeply, i will say that what can be learned for sure is calmness, measuredness, unhurriedness, in general, everything that is connected with this, often we are in a hurry, we let's try to figure this out. in a pause, and for now we'll take a short break, i remind you of our telegram channel say don't be silent, subscribe, ask questions and suggest new, interesting guests, we have connections, the say

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who suffered a strategic defeat 80 years ago, here from the soviet union, in general, that policy of previous years, that propaganda, which in general provided, this politicum, it simply did its job, this new generation of politicians, they have grown up absolutely irresponsible, that is, they are no longer people of the period, de gaulle, the same schroeder, for example, that is, they are not statists, not statists, the president also talks about this, yes, in fact, it is obvious, even at the everyday level, so i will simply finish the thought that this

generation, being pumped up with internal propaganda, their own attitudes, somewhere historical traumas have had an effect, family ones in the end, the very idea that in general it can... turn back, here comes a strong russia, which will somehow create competition for them, they simply get this attitude from here on a biological level, but there is another country of medals, for example, i communicate with many people during the period of work in latvia, of course i don’t want to bother them too much for obvious reasons, in germany, where in general businessmen are quite good...

mikhailovich, well, you expressed the idea of ​​how politics and sausage are made. yuri attributes to him that the people should not know that you leave a chance, you understand that it will come the time when, let's say, the global resentment towards us from the western ruling elite, it will end and be replaced by some adequate actions, and what period are we talking about now? it's hard for me to predict.

not the west, yes, you will agree with this, then why, considering the prospects for foreign economic cooperation with countries of the so-called distant arc, do we particularly single out, separately single out asia, well , let's turn, perhaps, to the numbers, of course, i could talk at length about the fact that the center of world geopolitics and geoeconomics is shifting to the asian-technical region, what is the reason for this, in general , some empirical calculations should be made on this account, but this has already been said,

a lot has been written, i think that our... well, the viewer will not be interested in this, let's go to the figures for the twenty-third year of the gdp of the countries of latin america, i will now talk about the distant arc, yes, it amounted to an average of 2-3%, this correlates with the global result, which means in africa this is about 4% growth, which means asia is more than five, again i repeat, this is an average average indicator temperature, yes, how - in the hospital, for example , the same.

"the big game in asia 2:0, please explain what kind of game is this that is unfolding in this region and why our president's calls for unity and consolidation in greater eurasia are more relevant than ever, well, the project is currently undergoing modernization, in the spirit of the times, well, for now i'll leave the intrigue, we'll think about it later ." and we will inform our viewers and readers, as for the big game, this term, the big game in asia, in general, is generally accepted in historiography and in academic science, and it defines the geopolitical struggle, the confrontation between the british and russian empires, which unfolded at the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries for dominance in central asia.

today, the situation. i mean the united states, the european union, japan, and now, here, and south korea, which are now competing in central asia often with not just contradictory, but sometimes even

conflicting interests. creates the preconditions for the chugs of destabilization and tension, well, naturally, we, as understanding that the central asian republics are ours partners in the eac, in... the fact that asia is rich in resources, is this its misfortune rather than its blessing? well, as they say, woe from wit, woe from wealth, if we rephrase this phrase, resources are, perhaps, today, this is the main

stumbling block, because there are few countries that today have the resource base necessary for the next industrial breakthrough, this is primarily china, well, china is understandable, china is an antagonist of the anglo-saxon world, there is also latin america, which, in general, quite pragmatically approaches the use of its resources, and central asia, well , ukraine of course, therefore, it is transnational corporations that today have aspirations associated with the development, with the extraction, processing of exports of useful.

russia, china, india, there is a corresponding format rick, here it is, however, now does not work for a number of reasons, but nevertheless it exists, even yevgeny maksimovich pryamakov launched it in his time, well, and i think that with a lucky coincidence of circumstances, belarus already by force its actual capabilities, international weight in these processes, will participate in good faith as always and will make its significant contribution. well , this confrontation between the west and the east is inevitable, yes, or in principle, let's say, the creation of some kind of center of power, that is, we see what the hegemony of the united states and the anglo-saxons in general introduces, that bad processes are beginning all over the world, that is, are these centers of power needed, or should everyone be perceived by each other as equal partners? well, you know, it's like in electricity, potentials flow from

more to less, then vice versa, that's why these are objective laws, the more civilizational confrontation, as long as the world exists, it, it, it happens, and just in this particular one... partners, i think you will agree that in any relationship, human, especially in interstate relations of such a level as with russia and china, well, there are always all sorts of working nuances, for obvious reasons, these nuances will never become

public knowledge, at least due to that strategic depth, the importance of the political wisdom of the leaders of our countries, here...

more than 10%, here is the latest figure for the first half of the year, i just don't remember the specific figure, but well, this is a positive trend, i think that our route remains relevant, well , again, it was not for nothing that the president of poland recently went to china, obviously, and this was discussed there, in principle, the interests of the country are still the poles , the polish elite, so to speak, yes, they are stupid to shoot themselves in the foot or saw off the branch on which you yourself were sitting, we saw how... lithuania shot itself in the foot and china

practically cancelled, that is , simply crossed out, well, it's sad, but the same lithuania then backed down, we also saw it very well, that's why the recent visit of the prime minister of the state council of the prc letian and our head of state and experts call it historic, how do you think, why can this visit be considered a landmark event? i'll say right away that i'm not a deep expert, a sinologist, i have colleagues who are professional.

here are those agreements, agreements that were concluded during this visit, this is not just a courtesy visit, yes, that is some new step in the development of relations between belarus and china, of course, that package of agreements, in general , of economic content, in general, their industry focus speaks of this, again, as far as i remember the example. the state council of the people's republic of china has not come to us, god willing, since 2007 or since 2017, there have been no visits, we began the conversation with the fact that the institute of strategic studies will study the sco and brics, and you said that in general we would like more people who can do this to do, which own the question, how do you think our mentality and the eastern chinese? are there any moments when we

can understand each other and who can tell us how to understand each other? the mentality is of course different, here i have already mentioned in general certain features that distinguish us, but we are united by the desire for justice, for example, the desire to be friends, in the end, also eastern hospitality belarusian will not yield to it in any way, maybe even somewhere and ... well, if we talk about who would taught us, well, we need to, we need to teach children, well , we have some institutes that train people like this, specialists who understand the culture well, know the history, traditions of those countries with which we are now cooperating, because , well, let's say, there is an institute for studying

linguistics in russia, but in any case, no matter how good a university graduate turns out to be, when plunging into the practical plane, he will not immediately get his bearings. therefore, some other empirical knowledge is needed, that is, you need to go to the country, live there, immerse yourself in the environment, cook, as they say, in this cauldron, and get some interdisciplinary competencies on the basis of which you can then educate others, this is a difficult, complex process, so it is long,

long, of course, but the same confucius said that if your plan is for a year, plant rice, yeah. for a decade, plant trees, and if for life, teach children. let's break away for a while, after a short break we will return to this studio again, for now subscribe to our telegram channel, say don't be silent, all our look for releases on the belarus 1 youtube channel

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a treat for us, ear, bravo, how delicious, clean, natural it is, the program "say ne temche" is on air again , our guest is an analyst of the belarusian institute of strategic studies, yuri yarmalinsky. yuri mikhailovich, let's talk about finances in the finale. the issue of moving away from settlements in dollars is increasingly being raised on the sco, brics and eos platforms, and indeed. the share of settlements in national currencies is growing, what do you think, does it make sense to create a new single currency,

say, for the sco member countries? well, as far as we know, russia, together with the central banks of partner countries, is developing a payment platform bricks bridge, for settlements in national currencies, in 2022 at the sco summit in samarkand. a roadmap was adopted to increase the share of such settlements precisely on the scale of this organization, so far, however, not all member countries have joined this roadmap, due to the sensitivity of this issue and internal restrictions, well , we are talking primarily about the risks for currency and financial systems, in addition, when making settlements in...

the issue of introducing a single sco currency is, first of all, a political issue, although it can may be long overdue, but still, from my point of view, this is a question of such a long-term perspective, because even if you look at the share of the dollar, which is being crowded out by alternative currencies in the world reserve basket, then its share there generally remains at a level of about 47-48%, and the dynamics of this close... so far does not give grounds to say that, uh, let's say, it will completely leave world circulation, uh in

the foreseeable future, uh, well, and even more so , it seems to me that they will not be ready for this, they will not agree with this, the same india and china, which have which the us trade turnover with china in the twenty -third year is about 700 billion, and india about 130 billion dollars. in the sco we have already become a full member and strive for the same position in brics, these are the countries of brazil , russia, india, china and south africa, yes, initially, when it was created, yes, the backbone, india, which you have already even mentioned, what prospects does belarus have in this, in this organization, well, based on the information that is circulating in october at the summit in kazan, where we are invited. in the brix+ format belarus is counting on and rather it will happen in all cases, it will receive the status

of a cooperation partner, because due to the fact that attention to brics has grown a lot recently, and a number of countries, there are dozens of countries lined up, it is clear that this process needs to be somehow organized, therefore, most likely, brics will go the way of the sco and develop some kind of stage-by-stage accession. probably, that's right, well, brics for us is in any case an additional point of external support, ensuring external economic balance , foreign policy stability, i can to say that bcc is moving synchronously within the framework of the state agenda, and we see ourselves as a full-fledged participant in the brics expert center council, this year with the help of russian partners, thank them for that.

but compared to russia, china, india, we are not a big state, well, as you said, a little higher, an average state, well, in turn, do we have something... to put into the common brics piggy bank? well, of course, of course, we have always been proactive donors, in no way petitioners of me always here is this question: what will membership in this or that organization give us? i sometimes even answered sharply, that you know, there is no need to proceed from congenial positions: we are donors, we are donors, even if a little, but we still contributed ideas, projects and so on in a practical aspect, therefore our industrial potential, our transit, our... are built in islamabad, we

will once again please and maybe even surprise our partners with such innovative ideas, well, and if we talk about the role of the contribution of small countries, then here, probably, there is another question that is much deeper, because sometimes in this comparison there is a certain share of such light, light irony or maybe condescension, because let's take, for example, such a small country as... yemen, yes, 33 million population, well, three belarussians, but 20, 22 billion dollars of gdp, and look how they have turned the entire middle east upside down, they have shackled such a powerful military machine, the usa and its allies, which is pounding thousand-strong drones with million-strong missiles. does yemen have oil? well, does yemen have oil?

of course, we could also cite qatar as a caveat, but since you asked.

you said that there is a queue of countries lining up to join brics, what is so attractive, why is there a queue, well, everyone wants to be part of the progressive global majority, we notice that the world is changing, yes, in this regard, yes, and this is happening right before our eyes, although, as they say, god forbid living in an era of change, but nevertheless it is happening, a crisis is always an opportunity, the other side, yes, we say that sanctions - these are also opportunities, not just limitations. based on this, i keep saying, judging by the intensity of passions, most likely not, the point of no return has already been passed, these geopolitical fault lines in the world, the consequence of which was geoeconomic fragmentation, which many experts and even in the imf, by the way,

have already dubbed the new cold war, only confirm. in general, this hypothesis of mine, the discussions are no longer about how to reverse this, overcome this trend, about how to learn to live with it, uh, depth, systemic nature, contradictions, that have accumulated, that is, over the period of eighty years of history after the end of the second war, they are very large-scale, in general, churchill began to talk about them in his fulton speech in march 1946, in our time they have already been additionally postulated by russian president putin in february 2007 in the famous munich speech, but unfortunately they did not heed it, therefore, learn to live in a new reality, prepare for it. do you see this future in positive colors, in

some bright colors, or still negative will there be more, what do you think? you know, even though i'm beaten by life, i still remain optimistic, so i look confidently into the future, that's basically what i build my plans on, yeah, both personal and professional, yeah, and you see a colorful oriental carpet ahead, not a molevich square, you know, if we talk from the standpoint of art, then everything beautiful should remain so, no matter where it is in the east or the west, we don't deny anyone's values. we just accumulate and process them, based on our experience traditions, values, it turns out something like that, unity in diversity. well, i think that this is a wonderful ending, if we summarize our conversation, what can we say that the east is a complex and delicate matter, therefore, yuri mikhailovich, we will invite you again so that you explain and confirm whether our

guidelines in this direction are correct

, whether we entered the right door? in belarus, in my opinion, there is a very rational and correct attitude to what is called. law: laws must certainly be observed by everyone, but there is a nuance: the head the state, for example, said at one time the same thing, sometimes unlawful, a hurricane passed through belarus and it is necessary to quickly repair buildings and structures, they began

to announce procedures for selecting contractors, as a result, a contractor has not yet been selected, work has not begun, there are two ways, the one that is prescribed in the laws, this is to agree on everything with everyone, hold a tender and so on and so forth, the one that is dictated by logic: it is raining, people have no roofs in their houses, and they are bargaining. this is the desire to put logic in emergency situations situations, above some papers - this is one of the reasons why alexander grigorievich is a leader, and not just a politician. he is ready to take responsibility along with the risks, and they do it regularly. author's project by igor turai propaganda. watch on the belarus 24 tv channel

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