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programs, why the west lost the sanctions war, we will discuss this in more detail immediately after the digest of key events in world politics this week. on august 22, president of belarus alexander lukashenko met with premier of the state council of china letyan, who visited minsk on an official two-day visit. the belarusian leader noted that the documents that were signed between the countries are of fundamental importance. one of them can definitely be called historic, this is the agreement on the creation of a free trade zone services and investment. belarus is the first country in the eurasian economic union with which china is concluding such an agreement, the president noted. it is expected that in the next 5 years, the export of belarusian services to china will grow by at least 12-15%, and investments in belarus by no less than 30%. during the official visit, prime minister of belarus roman golovchenko and premier of the state council of the people's republic of china lixiang held talks in a narrow format. the parties made a statement on strengthening cooperation in several sectors: trade, security, energy and finance. china and belarus will also
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cooperate in industrial supply chains and continue to strengthen trade facilitation to reduce costs for both sides. belarus is set to deepen cooperation with the greater guangdong bay area, hong kong-macau, a nine-city metropolis including guangzhou, shenzhen and zhuhai. during his visit to minsk, li said that china-belarus relations have remained vibrant over the past 32 years despite changes in the international landscape. vice president of the united states. harris has officially accepted the nomination as the democratic presidential candidate . harris has spoken out in defense of ukraine and nato. she has criticized republican candidate donald trump's previous comments about the war in ukraine. according to the vice president, she warned kiev about the conflict five days before the fighting began and helped shape the u.s. diplomatic response to russia's military operation in ukraine. in june, on the sidelines of a peace conference in switzerland. harris said that washington supports kiev not for the sake of charity, but for the sake of preserving its benefits.
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republican candidate donald trump has repeatedly spoken about the need to limit support for ukraine. in august, he also said that one of the main reasons for the outbreak of the conflict in the country was us president joe biden's public statements that kiev could join nato. indian prime minister narendro modi arrived in kiev. the official visit lasted one day. during which modi held talks with volodymyr zelensky. as friends and partners, we hope for a speedy restoration. and stability in the region, - the indian prime minister noted. according to him, he continued previous conversations with zelensky, and also exchanged views on a peaceful settlement of the conflict. at the same time, modi, as bloomberg wrote, was not going to act as a mediator, but was ready to convey a message between putin and zelensky, if necessary. narendromodde visited moscow in early july. then he noted that he felt optimistic during his conversation with putin and that he had hopes for the future. according to modi, he heard the position of the russian president and his positivity. in february 432 bc
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, the athenian people's assembly approved the so -called megarian psyphisms. people from the city of megara were forbidden to trade in the markets of athens, and their ships were forbidden to enter the ports of the athenian maritime union. in fact , a blockade of megara was established. the city's residents had no choice but to complain to the athenians' spartan rival. thus , the long pylapanesian war began due to the first known economic sanctions in history. empty. professor, head of the department of social vitrenko, doctor of political science, technology, ran hicks from the russian federation . hello, hello. i am glad to welcome georgy vasilyevich grits, candidate of economic sciences, professor, to our studio. hello, good afternoon. and
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alexander dudchak, economist, leading research fellow at the institute of cis countries, candidate of economic sciences, joins our broadcast via skype. greetings, alexander. well, as per tradition, hello, as per tradition, we begin our program with blitz question: western sanctions did not work? inna aleksandrovna, how would you answer this question? western sanctions did not work. the only thing i would like to make is one remark, when we talk about sanctions against a sovereign state, against a country, we always mean. for some reason, the economic context, in fact , any sanctions against a state have a political reason, despite the fact that all sanctions are divided into political and economic, politically related to the fact that the country is removed from various international organizations, deprive it of the right to participate in the international negotiation process and so on, and economically related to various embargoes on the import and export of various goods and resources, all the same, the reason is always political, so i ... answered like this:
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politically and economically the west has lost. thank you very much, you are absolutely right, today separating politics and economics would be a crime. for us, georgy vasilyevich, please. i would say that sanctions. which are almost twice as high as the global ones, i am not even talking about western growth rates of western countries' economies, so sanctions are, as the chinese say, a time not only of problems, a time of lost profits, yes, in this case, profits, we have received many profits, but the war is not
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over yet, so i think that it is time to sum up the results. alexander, and what do you think, could the west have assumed that by introducing sanctions against an allied state. the damage from them is inflicted primarily on european countries, it is impossible to call this an unfortunate development of events for the united states, but this is a long war, we must remember, that in general it did not start in the twenty-second year, not in the fourteenth, it is ongoing, but you can introduce the history from there 1548, when
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sanctions were introduced against ivan the terrible, who hired specialists abroad, but they did not arrive because of the sanctions introduced there by one of the baltic orders. that in this regard we are winning in this situation, yes, we got unexpectedly, one can say, for them the effect is the opposite of what they expected, and the process of import substitution, be that as it may, but it is happening, and the de-dollarization of the economy is underway, and the growth of settlements in national currencies is happening, so they did not succeed in many things, but nevertheless our results could be even better, but for this we need certain administrative decisions, financial... authorities of russia, first of all the central bank, i really want to hope that these decisions will be made. nadezhda, a small remark, it is possible, here is another question, it seems to me, it is impossible to say indiscriminately, the west lost, we won, the west is also a country on the sidelines rosen, you are right , we received the greatest dividends the united states of america, but germany, germany,
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something like that, that is, so to speak, there is nothing to even talk about, but i would note only one sanction, which speaks of the anecdotal nature and lack of understanding in general of the collective west, well , that ... to say, where to move further, this is the latest, in my opinion, the decision to ban the supply of second-hand to belarus, that is, in their heads they have the impression that we we dress in russia and belarus only in second-hand, when these goods are gone, people will go out into the streets and sweep away this government, that's how far, to what kind of insanity can one go when sanctions are introduced against this group of goods, it seems to me that this characterizes the policy of the west in general, and colleagues, let me add: in an effort to deliver another crushing blow to the economy
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of belarus, the european union recently adopted a new package of sanctions, including a ban on supplies to our country from the european union used clothing, that is, second-hand clothing at retail, clothing of this category was sold by about 2,500 retail outlets, including online stores. the current press secretary of the ministry of foreign affairs of belarus anatoly glas commented on this situation and explained why. another sanction of the european union, which prohibits the supply of these goods, can be considered a blessing for the country. let's pay attention to the quote. this step is another confirmation that the european union absolutely does not follow the logic of humanity in matters of imposing sanctions, applies restrictions on socially significant goods that are in demand, including among low-income citizens. at the same time, the eu declares its commitment to the social principle of sanctions at various levels. but the fact is that sanctions are not about justice at all, here is it said is it fair or? unfair - it is unfair, because these are coercive measures that are taken against some
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state, against russia there have been 14 full-fledged packages of sanctions since 2014, such illogical things, and sometimes there are plenty of ridiculous ones there too, in the fourteenth package europe wrote in such a clause that those enterprises and organizations that suffered losses and ruin as a result of... applied to russia have the right to request compensation from the government of the russian federation, that is , entrepreneurs from germany, france, italy can write a request to the government of the russian federation, we applied sanctions against you, we suffered losses, please compensate us for this, they have such a right, but of course this is very funny, so i agree with the press secretary anatoly. that there
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can be no logic here and even more so no justice. with your permission, i would like to add vasily georgievich koltashov, economist, director of the institute for new society, to our broadcast. vasily georgievich, welcome. hello, we are talking about the sanctions policy, who won, who lost, one of the goals of the sanctions pressure of the west was called restricting access of companies from russia and belarus to innovative technologies in order to complicate. modernization, that's impossible deny that in the west there are many developments of inventions that were important for the extraction of minerals at great depths for the creation of modern electronics, the modernization of mechanical engineering and so on, to what extent in this aspect does the pressure of the west harm large medium-sized businesses in the union state, in your opinion? well, in my opinion it does harm, simply because in the nineties, in the noughties, the stake was made on the services of western companies. in particular the company shlember as a result they received quite profitable contracts. other
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the thing is that the unpleasant moment that we are still experiencing now, and it will have consequences for the restoration of our own technical, production base, including the engineering base, in terms of developments, which will lead to a complete elimination of dependence on the west, yes. because we know that - let's say, the equipment of the schlemberger company, it continues to come to russia, there were publications about this in the us, that oh-oh-oh, what can we do, but in fact the americans are not really trying to block their own trade with russia, they first of all want the european union to stop trading with russia, selling us primarily high-tech products, not to mention products of various industrial equipment, let's say frankly that one of the goals was to inflict. maximum damage on european, especially german industry. here the sanctions were directed not only and not so much against
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russia and belarus initially, well, and how if we talk about the period from twenty- second to twenty-fourth year, then how much they were generally aimed against the european union, since the competitiveness of american industry has been declining for a long time. now they report that their labor productivity in industry has not grown since 2008 and in general it is difficult, they have only this year. to use its market. to support their own industry, especially high-tech, therefore , to destroy the industry of europe is one of the goals of the sanctions policy of the west, it is being achieved, that is, it works, here at them, they create problems for us, we solve these problems, we develop, we move forward, but who, who completely, so to speak, succumbs to the pressure of sanctions, who they hit
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but here i would also like to note one more factor, which seems to me to be important, that is , when we talk about sanctions, we must understand that it was not the collective west that lost, but specifically one country - the united states of america, yes, indeed, germany was destroyed, in fact, it has now entered towards stagnation, but politicians, they are not eternal, they are removed by the electorate, therefore, well, as the chinese say, you have to sit on the mountain and wait until it floats past you... profit, whoever suffers from this, in this case there are no restrictions for the republic of belarus, because a fairly effective reorientation has occurred, but even those
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countries neighboring the republic of belarus are obviously at a loss, let's pay attention to direct speech, to dress in belarus. to feed people, we can 30 million, right now, and if we try, even 40, therefore why should we go and buy eu stuff in lithuania, if they were smart and the eu wasn't completely stunned, they wouldn't do it, and the lithuanians would be banned from doing it, because it's billions of dollars in income, well, what can we say about them, if they introduced sanctions, they shot themselves in the head a little, well, i think, alexander... you will agree that in some ways the current position of the european union resembles the relationship between ukraine and the russian federation, which was absolutely unhealthy and illogical, because for a long time ukraine, harming itself, tried to harm russian federation, but ultimately we see what this has led to, that is, in every action, especially if it is the leader of the state or a number of people making decisions in a particular state, from which they should
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push off, first of all, take care of financial provision. yes, it is comfortable in the life of its citizens, but ultimately the situation is completely different. there , common sense is replaced by political expediency, which is sent down from overseas. and over the national european authorities, the european council, the european commission, etc., which are represented by people like ursula vondelaien, as the head of the so-called diplomacy of the european barel, they do not work out the interests of the peoples of the european countries. after the second world war , for many decades after liberation from nazi occupation, these countries were occupied by the united states, the occupation continues to this day, over the decades these so -called political elites were raised, when we say, how is that possible, look, we give you such wonderful conditions for cooperation, stable supplies at low prices of hydrocarbons, we provide our market, what do you lack, they
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say, we are not interested in this, well, who is interested in ursula or scholz to carry out the will of the germans? the people of the global media are driving around the brains of european residents, introducing into their consciousness that russia is an enemy and it wants to conquer you there, i don’t know, cross the borders of nato countries and so on, they are instilled with some kind of modern neo-nazi ideology, where russia vraite recently the same trips of foreigners to the russian federation the republic of belarus have become quite frequent and you know in some ways it is even joyful to watch this reaction. when suddenly these rose-colored glasses of western propaganda are torn off and people are convinced that yes, my god, look how people live, what is the quality of food, what is the quality of life, compared to that, even this migration crisis, how...
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completely destroyed, eastern finland has turned into a subsidized region for its own state, and people who well continue communicate, we live there in extreme closeness to each other, we have in addition to the communication of our establishment, there is also purely human communication, for example, we were friends with the university of turku, and we are still friends, since we graduate specialists in the same field, we once had academic mobility, we went to each other to give courses, sent students, now it is officially banned, but after all , human in...
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european banks financed, being the owners, that is, they do not even give an account of that policy within themselves, which so to speak preach, that is , in fact, they are all fighting with each other. are often aimed at weakening the enemy in the event of noticeable tension or a long-term dispute, they also often hide economic problems behind the assertion of great principles. pavlova in international life, sanctions and, finally, they seek to punish what is considered a violation of the international order, in the absence of a consensus on more radical measures, the targets are usually major players in the international systems that cannot be abandoned. russia, china, iran, and currently the republic of belarus, however, due to the split in the international community, sanctions are increasingly being adopted on a regional basis, in
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particular, the eu sanctions against belarus and russia, which is further evidence of the weakening of the global security architecture and the trend towards a more multipolar world, and vasily georgievich, i would like to discuss with you again such a problematic issue, a separate aspect - this is the brain drain, it has always been.
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republic, we are studying together the system 5 years project with the chinese people 's social credit, how it affects chinese society, how it is perceived in general in world science, therefore here is such a feeling that the colleague is stuck somewhere 30, i see your smile, you still need to speak responsibly, that is, you can't take and tell the most perfect fairy tales, the most perfect fairy tales, everything is so ...
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germany, great britain and even the usa, this is hushed up, the role of the state in the market economy is hushed up. well, probably in russia, it is not my business to advise, but it seems to me that today this issue has matured, and these russian, so to speak, so -called liberals and monetarists, i think their time has ended, or will end. they were born in different parts of the world. i am tarakanova lyudmila, i have lived in belarus for more than 30 years. i came from russia, from the ancient city of ryazan. syria is my homeland, i
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of the lake - this is the habitat of red book animals and birds that you will not find anywhere else in belarus. the main topics on the main broadcast. watch on the belarus24 tv channel. let me remind you that on the air the sas program is authorized to declare, we continue our heated discussion, i am grateful to the participants of today's program for their activity for the discussion points, because the truth is born in them. vasily georgievich, you do not agree with how european society reacts to the sanctions policy, from which...
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they perceive russia as prey and belarus too, as something that will solve their problems. i am talking about the unconscious level of the european citizen. i know that many finns are so inclined, just like that, at the click of a button, there will not be actions against nato, although they should be, society quietly swallowed finland's entry into nato, a society of supposed pacifists, the same thing happened in sweden, so what we must understand in this situation is that the peoples still bear, firstly, bear responsibility. that is, the european nations bear responsibility for what they have allowed, it was accepted to believe that nations never bear responsibility for anything, because as stalin said, hitlers come and go, but the german people remain, of course they remain, but no one removes responsibility from the european nations
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for what they have allowed, they must fight against the united states, drive them out, because the united states is destroying their economy, depriving them of a future, and the united states is beneficiary of the sanctions war, another thing is that the united states has a digestive... system that is destroyed, they have already destroyed themselves with their financial policy, so this is what they get in the form of the murder of european industry, it does not create an economic boom there, but still joe biden constantly emphasized that economic growth in the united states, relative stability, even prosperity there, as he imagined it, is the result of his policy, and we know that this policy is paid for by cutting industry in germany in other countries, the reduction of jobs there and the destruction of the middle class there, which and... the process, in fact, horrifies those who left belarus or russia to look at the wonders of western civilization, they are generally unhappy with what they see, because it does not look like a fairy tale, it does not look like a blooming garden at all, that's what is happening, but the european peoples are just beginning to some special smile
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hidden joy this causes, but because it seems to me that justice has prevailed, i would also like to discuss a complex issue in more detail, because a separate big problem is air traffic, we can puff out our cheeks as much as we want and say that: whether this is for some of the turbopatriots or not, but many in the west have a business, real estate, relatives, friends, today, of course, if you are a patriot of your country, you should forget about this or at least try to move all this to the place where you live, and for what you most defend, but what are the prospects for solving this problem, can we achieve lifting aviation sanctions even with the same republic of belarus, you know, here it is not even a matter of relatives somewhere abroad or business. here even an elementary flight on vacation, on vacation to friendly
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countries is difficult, since all this complicated aviation logistics leads to the fact that tickets are simply exorbitantly expensive, and of course this is a reason to explore their magnificent places in russia, there are many of them in belarus, yesterday i walked around minsk and saw a huge number of russian tourists, and they just minsk was filled due to the fact that it is now attractive to us as a tourist. of course, this problem needs to be solved, it is being solved gradually, air traffic is being established through georgia, due to the fact that relations have changed , again, due to political relations, difficulties have arisen on the part of armenia, yes, we see how politics permeates all spheres of people's lives, from sports and air traffic, yes, ending with our everyday life, of course, at first these difficulties exist. but little by little they we are overcoming, and here, perhaps, we need
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to talk more about what the sanctions gave us, than what they took away, yes, in terms of development, i still can’t, i can’t calm down regarding science, i want to say, colleagues, that the sanctions gave us in terms of science, let me do this, we have finally gotten rid of international scientific citation bases, they force us to look at the problematic moment completely differently from a different angle, and this is certainly also a plus, let’s pay attention.
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are obvious, only the unfavorable atmosphere interferes, because there are a lot of interested people, frankly speaking, and we are not talking about the united states of america, but about the european union first of all, with each one only increasing, there is no point in negotiating with them at all, they are not capable of keeping promises, nor fulfilling even those signed on paper, and what they are afraid of personally, that's what? all the players who only profit from
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conducting military operations, they, naturally, in no case even want any rapprochement or finding compromises decisions between ukraine and russia? yes, i agree with you, as for business, you know, we have the st. petersburg international economic forum every year, i constantly participate in this forum as an expert on a number of platforms, every year i see more and more. european business representatives, american business representatives, whose travel was even restricted this year, who come to the st. petersburg international economic forum in order to conclude...
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the forum is called the voice of the global south, and recently india held a fairly large there was even such an event there, it seems to me extraordinary, the right to participate in this voice, with a speech was given... to a european country alexander grigorevich lukashenko, the leader of the republic of belarus, but the question is not even about this, the question is in the resolution or the question of the reason for this forum, where more than 120 heads of state took part, that is , it is the global south, which is in terms of growth rates, today forms the growth of the global economy, they today must
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understand that india today has become the leader, so to speak, the leading speaker of the g7, in september. this g7 forum will take place, and there will be an agenda there, to hear the voice of the south, that is , today not just russia, not just belarus, some iran, and cuba, are beginning to stir up a revision of the unipolar world, but already a whole cluster of economies, the sco, brics , the global south is beginning to be questioned , not just questioned, but to generate a new world economic order, that is, this is an irreversible process, this is... a new paradigm of world, world politics, i would say so. vasily georgievich, little is said about the fact that the need to fight for economic stability makes partnership with such difficult countries as turkey or qatar especially significant for the russian federation, and often during these 2 and
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a half years ankara has received concessions from moscow that it could not have counted on in other geopolitical conditions, why is there so little emphasis in information work on the fact that economic stability is no less, and sometimes even more significant, constant in the state level, than the stability of individual sections of the front? well, probably, because the russian economy is growing and growing quite dynamically, despite the high interest rate of the bank of russia, and here such a factor as capital, accumulated capital, is included, that is, if a business has its own money, it does not need borrowed money, borrowed money is the last refuge of medium and small capital, and large businesses that are developing significant production volumes do not need this, they have huge funds, including in offshore accounts, the president's task is to return this money, this is if we talk about stability, the second very important point of what is happening is that the growth of the russian economy, in general the development of the economies of the brics countries is happening with a weak role of the west,
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that is, these are not carriages that follow the western locomotive, when the rise in the american economy starts the rise... the economy situation is actually standard for the period from 1880 to 2008, even to 2013, the weakness of western economies opens up opportunities for new economies, for new industrial leaders, in particular for india, in particular for russia, this does not relieve them from various accumulated problems, like china has accumulated quite a few problems, but this gives opportunities to grow and to understand these mechanisms, it is still very difficult. because the situation is truly unique, yeah, yeah, you know, i agree with you, alexander, it seems to me that after 2.5 years of the tragedy of ukraine, the russian federation, because the republic of belarus - this is our internal struggle, unfortunately, our brothers
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, western partners, became aware, they manipulated very skillfully, played such a shameless game of chess, but ultimately, when you look... here at point a point b, where we arrived and how dynamically we approached the construction of a multipolar world, well, probably, this whole incredible game could only have been invented, because the goal has been achieved, and the multipolar world exists, and we live in it, i think 10 years ago it was still difficult to predict that this is how events would develop, why sanctions again did not work, because we have excess natural resources, we have partners with whom we continue to work, we have... in this regard, after all, unfortunately, we have what a colleague in the studio said earlier
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, we have the biggest sanctions, somehow not paradoxically, are not imposed by western enemies, unfortunately, by central banks, in my opinion, the central bank of russia has caused more damage with its activities than all 14 packages of sanctions, because with the current rate of 20 there is 18%, which will most likely be increased further. development of production is impossible, thanks to the government, which, despite this rate, finds opportunities and implements many projects there under completely different conditions, but nevertheless , it is impossible for the entire economy to develop with such a key rate, so if we solve this problem, i think that the west will get a very powerful slap in the face, then we will definitely be able to say that this is this battle we...
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countries and from a country with a resource, with an oil curse, so-called, to turn into a country that is beginning to develop all its resources and make these incomes from the oil and gas complex, so to speak, incidental incomes, and not the main incomes. of course, everything that happens in the world with respect to oil and gas quotes, yes, it affects russia, because we really have large resources, we benefit from this... there is no need to be disingenuous here, but the fact that we already began
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to understand what to do with this by about april, may, june of the twenty-third year, is obvious from this graph, yes, we had a surge in october, then a decline in january, in general in in relation to january, this month is always associated with a decrease in relation to income from the oil and gas complex, and now it is held at a certain mark, so i think that now the management system. oil and gas sector has been restructured, here colleagues complain about the increase in the key rate of the central bank, yes, of course, this is a real blow to us in the solar plexus, but we understand perfectly well why this happened in order to contain growing inflation, and inflation is caused primarily by sanctions, so we understand this, but it does not make it easier for us, but now we rely not only on the oil and gas sector, we understand that we have other resources, well, you see, in brussels many were delighted. the speed with which the european union, during the first year of the conflict in ukraine, adapted to the sharp reduction in imports of russian gas
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through pipelines, supplies were not completely stopped, they continue to transit through ukraine, through the territory through which three large pipelines are laid, and it is really impossible to dispute the ability of a number of european countries to adapt, for example, the same germany, they have repeatedly recalled today, accelerated the construction of terminals for the delivery of lng, but the price of these significant... the united states of america, and these changes in supplies have cost european economies very dearly, now gas here is three to four times more expensive than in the united states of america, that is, competitive'. the result
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of our discussion today and once again confirmation of who won and who lost, we are approaching the final round of our program today, the final word, i want each participant to say, vasily georgievich, please, let's sum it up, we need to carry out various counter-reforms, eliminating the heavy legacy of the neoliberal era, not masking this legacy, saying that it does not exist, but eliminating it, this path of counter-reforms, it is inseparable from the path of industrial development. because pay attention that the main thing we now need is technically competent personnel, these are technicians and engineers, we have quite a lot of accountants, we have a lot of economists, sociologists, lawyers, we don't have enough people who have specific knowledge that can be applied in material production, i'm talking here about russia and about the union state as a whole, because this is a very serious problem, it is impossible to solve it without pulling the lapdog out of yourself,
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mentioned the first known sanctions from history, the migarian psiphisms, the authors claimed that the ruler of athens pericles achieved their adoption under the influence of his beloved hetera ospas and had personal scores to settle with the residents of the city of megara. and the first famous woman, the creator of an intellectual secular salon, which was visited by both socrates and herodotus, was accused by her contemporaries of many things, including the sanctions that gave rise to the war. well, let's see who will be accused of it after some time the current sanctions war, but given the morals in the west, it is unlikely... there will be love between a strong, charismatic man and a beautiful woman. thank you, it was the "saz upolnom" program to declare, see you in a week. europe is the main victim of western sanctions against the union state.
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