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. on the air of the first national channel of the belarusian radio and the belarus24 tv channel , the analytical project "topical microphone". my name is evgeny merezhko. hello. and i will introduce our guest. this is an expert of the belarusian institute for strategic

studies, sergei tomashov, good afternoon, good afternoon, to say that the world is in a fever, well, probably, to say nothing, or rather, it will be even to say, the collective west is feverish, well, in my opinion, they have simply lost their sense of reality, common sense, at least the fact that recently appeared in the media, a member of the british parliament, a man is getting married, and this is being broadcast.

in total to russian-speaking citizens or even non -citizens emigrants who are in the country, that is, the world is unsettled, so i would like, sergey vladimirovich , to talk to you about this today, what we have time for, yes, there are many topics, different topics, although we are talking, in

in principle about our neighbors, we live in europe, we did not choose our neighbors, neither the poles, nor the balts, nor the ukrainians, therefore... we must somehow react to this in any case, and maybe let's start with germany, here's what's happening there, what's happening there in two german lands, they've come forward, the right in one, first place, in the second, in saxony, second place, what does this mean for us, first of all, they probably won't come to power completely, but at the same time, the signal is serious, and we can't help but react. i agree with you, evgeny, this is a very important aspect, a very important point, as if for the first time we will see that in germany a demand is being formed among voters, among the population for a different

political course, this is very important, and we saw this in france, but in france they managed to bypass the ruling. they managed to beat and of course pushed the right-wing forces aside from power, it is clear that this will most likely happen here in germany, but nevertheless, a victory and an alternative for germany and the union of sarah wagenknecht, this is an important signal, it says that society is already starting to look the other way, even if it is east germany, because thuringia saxony is east germany, therefore. the bloc of mutual economic assistance together with the soviet union, our germans, yes, yes, these are our germans, it is quite clear that it was they who gave birth

to this signal, but if you look at the situation objectively, it could not have been any other way, well , germany was simply trampled, torn apart, where is this strong point? the economy, where are the leaders of europe and and so on, no, today we are not talking about that anymore, we are talking about the fact that difficult times have come for germany, that there is no economic growth, that enterprises are moving to the united states of america, they are even looking at china to transfer - production enterprises, that electricity is becoming more expensive, well, these are objective factors that need to be taken into account, as we, when we talk about democracy. then always - the political forces that come to power, they must take into account the demands of the population, pay attention attention, what is happening in society, the picture is completely different here, what is happening is simply a disconnection of the elites from the people, and this process, it is slowly

gaining momentum in france and germany, yes, these are still the first shoots, yes, it is clear that now they are doing everything possible to push all this aside, another question is, how are the leaders of these two... not close to fascist ideology in fact, or am i wrong? here you can evaluate in different ways, close, not close, whether these are fascist or not ideologists, maybe we will not go into it, the question is other, that society wants something different

than, yes, than what they, what is being offered, and what is being offered to them again is support for the war, support for the conflict that is nearby, incomprehensible, that is, influences in society associated with lgbt and so on and so forth and these other democratic movements. we can call it so in quotes, so to speak, that is, this is probably happening , a gradual recovery - well , europe, let's say, of society, yes, let's hope, let's hope that this is some kind of precisely in this direction and vector is degenerating, well, the fact that they have moved away from traditional values, so-called, as we understand it, yes, from family values, first of all, towards lgbt, towards a completely incomprehensible gender.

interests, from their aspirations, demands, desires, but look what happens when they go to the elections, they have one rhetoric, they position themselves, these political forces are completely different, the same party of scholze, it is in sixth place in saxony, it practically lost the elections, yes, but it positioned itself there in its own way, the afd, yes, these are the ultra-right, they are against further armament.

when they come to power, after all , no one really wants to join a coalition with them, and in order to join a coalition, it is now necessary to look not for differences, but for each of these political forces, on the contrary, for similarities. in order to find some common ground, so how to deal with this, doesn't it turn out that it's a deception again, the germans will be deceived again, they will create a coalition on completely different principles, not on those that were declared at the elections? here - this is an interesting point related to the fact that in fact in a healthy democracies, what should have been, the parties won the elections, that's it, please, you won with dignity, they don't say there that they - that means, falsified the elections or something else, there is no such thing, that is, you really won the elections, here you go,

please, you form the government, you form the governing bodies and so on, so on, albeit at the local level, this is a healthy democracy, what do we have, what do we get or can get in another democracy, which is now dominant in the west, militant democracy or you can call it something else, that no, we will not give up power, we will still loop it, we will do it differently, we will find... other possibilities and here they will not play on the commonality of interests, but most likely they will be just anyone, but not these, that's what we are talking about, that is, we are ready to form an alliance just with anyone, but the main thing is to prevent these forces, to preserve our power, and then we will see, people there may reconsider their views, or maybe somehow differently, that's what is happening, how would be, here in france - this is probably the most striking example of such, well, that is, the two largest...

that on what was based, let's say, the success of the economy of the european union, well, in particular germany, on cheap energy resources, cheap energy resources, well, of course, you can say there that it is far-fetched or there, but the biggest part of the success is precisely cheap energy resources, russian, of course, russian energy resources, resources were cut off, what we got in the end, we got expensive resources, expensive resources, expensive goods, expensive...

profit, respectively, is more than the state's income, objectively, well, yes, i completely agree with you, we were just talking about the largest economies of france, germany, well , first of all, germany. there, france, we are talking about the fact that they are experiencing a certain stagnation, and this can lead to serious consequences, although we are not striving for this, we have no desire to bleed them dry now, to bankrupt them, on the contrary, we are ready to trade with them, to be friends, uh, well , let it be, let it not be friends yet, but at least to trade on mutually beneficial terms, yes, but

there is another country, our closest neighbor , the most aggressive country in europe - it is... of course , a window of opportunity is opening for warsaw, but will it be able to realize it? this is a big question, if it has the resources to become the new leader of europe, as it would like, probably, or its leadership dreamed of it and so on, of course, for this it is taking steps, all these movements connected with the eastern account, with the migration crisis

, all this is thrown at this furnace, furnace engine that should take poland to... some new place, well, i don't think that will work out, because poland doesn't have enough resources for this, it doesn't have, its economy hasn't exploded yet, yes , it was a driver of economic growth, for a certain period, admittedly, it developed quite successfully, but again , its success was partially restrained by - the german economy, because more than a quarter of its export income.

the borders didn't work as such, and customs, as it is here now, simply everything was swept off the shelves by the poles, yes they came to us, bought everything in the stores , took it away, televisions, refrigerators, everything that was produced here, that was it, and then they set it up, of course they had their own production and built up trade schemes, trade concluded the necessary contracts, the economy recovered and so on, that's all clear, that's it, but... take into account that poland received huge subsidies from the european budget in order to develop, these are huge amounts, and somewhere there was an analysis, in my opinion, about 200 billion euros they got, well, it is clear that they are also kind of investing in the general economy, but what they invest and what they receive, the balance is in their favor, so this amount,

which they of course did not invest in the economy, this is of course yes. have you explained to us in simple words what this is and to what extent it corresponds to any world principles or laws? well, i would say that of course it does not correspond to any rights, it does not

correspond to anything, of course, it is a violation of rights, naturally, yes, under the pretext that it is necessary ensure security, all of this.

migration, as it was, so remains the mediterranean region, in particular, let's say, if we turn to specific figures, in total, let's say, in 2023 , about 380 thousand cases of illegal migration were recorded, frontex,

that's just the central mediterranean region, and there is also the eastern middle, the western one and this is practically half, this is half, this is one, and secondly, on our eastern border of the eu, where poland is and so on, this is only this year, i will say. they might say, no, well, since we built a fence there, built it, that means, stationed an army, that's it, now, that means, migrants don't penetrate to us, we record attempts to cross,

there are a lot of them and so on, well, if you look into it, well, imagine, let's say, just purely mathematically, a group of four migrants tried to cross in one place, it didn't work out, four cases , crossed, tried in another place, four cases, crossed to a third place, as a result we get 12. cases yes, but the group remains of four migrants, that is, everything is inflated, well of course, it is inflated, everything is incredible, that is, well , why is this necessary, well, again, i am talking about creating - to stretch yourself into the role of this leader, who decides what these military, for example - the poles recently announced that their budget for the next year, the military budget is 4.7% of gdp, this is a record, well, a strong leader needs records, you understand, a demonstration of strength. demonstration, everything, will they be able to implement this, well, this is a big question, because there is no money no, in the treasury, all those contracts that have been concluded, many are at the expense of external

players, at the expense of south korea, at the expense of the united states of america, the united states of america gave 2 billion and some, the yureis also finance money in advance, well, they give the opportunity to buy, so that later the poles or vandal, that is, all this, that is, all this falls on the next generation of poles. european ministers to belarus for a conference on illegal migration, we don’t know yet who will be there, that is, this is for now

it was not announced, but maxim rozhenkov said that among the potential participants of the conference a number of ministers of the european union countries have already confirmed their participation. the conference is planned for the fall, in november of this year, so maybe after all. let 's see, maybe some movement towards common sense has begun, not in general this is a cool initiative, in fact the ministry of foreign affairs is a case of a non-standard approach to solving complex problems, because well, firstly, what aspects would i highlight in this proposal, the fact that firstly we are talking about the fact that we are ready for dialogue on any acute issues, this is very important, this is very important. to reorganize

the international community, this is the first point, the second point, again, the problem of migration and illegal migration, this is not a problem of bilateral relations, this is a multilateral problem, it does not exist today, it did not arise yesterday, the day before yesterday or 2-3 years ago, it exists constantly, at one time , even before we diverged a little in the european union, we had close interaction along the border services with border countries, from poland, the same baltics.

they are striving there, to germany, not even to poland, to germany, and france as well, it is true, of course, literally also recently, a moldovan deputy of the moldovan parliament said that they expect an influx from ukraine in moldova, another wave, another one, and this will really be a problem, because ukraine is doing not very well on the front lines today, quite.

quite expected, quite expected, and will european moldova be ready, moldova is a big question for such an influx, and so they have hardly built all this stuff in, so - what will happen next, because again this raises the question of social security, about giving some guarantees, employment and so on and so forth, and well, these are big questions, plus these are not - let's even say so, probably not the young generation by and large, or a very young generation that needs school, study and the like, well, or older people, well, or women, that is, this is such a complex factor, that's why many countries in europe are now starting to re-evaluate the situation with refugees and so on, they are starting to approach it differently, because there is no such thing as too much money, and even more so if we take ukraine,

after all, he left there and...

there are certain concerns about what might be, maybe, well, to what extent they can be realized is a big question, and boris johnson has nothing else left, he already seemed like an unclaimed prime minister to himself, but that's why he needs to somehow declare to himself let it slip, okay. as for ukraine, ukraine excluded a section of the border with belarus from the exclusion zone an hour , there is a small section, there are several dozen meters, for us this is some kind of serious signal, or in principle, we can comment on this somehow, or in principle we can not react to this, leave this topic alone for now, it is difficult to say, i would divide everything that

is declared by the west... everything that is declared in the information space appears from ukraine, i would divide not even by two, by 10, why? because again i say that there is an information war going on and accordingly, everything that... ukraine, which was on the transfer, well, on the transfer of our troops to the border, i would also not evaluate it from the point of view that ukraine suddenly got worried, but they did not say anything through official channels, i am sure that they know that belarus will not go anywhere,

and is not going to, i am 100% sure of this, why was this done, so that it is obvious that the issue is being decided on how to force the united states of america to give more weapons. in the ukrainian government so that solve their geopolitical issues? well , the possibility of changes in the ukrainian government has been discussed, it has been discussed for a long time,

even candidates were named, they were supposed to replace the prime minister, they were supposed to be nominated for the post of prime minister instead of shmygal. markarova, who works as the ambassador of ukraine to the united states, that's most likely, i would associate this, of course, with the american approach to ukraine, why? because literally the day before, as far as i know, a ukrainian delegation went to the united states of america, died and defense minister, i think, yarmak, well, it's clear what they were trying to achieve there, but obviously they were given conditions, this is most likely a consequence of these negotiations that were carried out in washington, well, considering that information about this has been circulating for a long time, then i think that this is most likely how it is, in fact, that is, they received recommendations there that are mandatory for implementation in order to

achieve, well, the question that the americans always ask ukraine is corruption, corruption, corruption, corruption again, and they don’t have it, well, egemon can’t have corruption, they’re like in heaven, everyone else is on earth, that’s why it’s clear that these stories that constantly pop up in the media about ukrainian politicians, who got how much and the like, well, that’s actually how it is, and that can’t help but worry, because the americans, because they understand that that part of the money that significantly...

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