that is, you will go home soon, right? for treatment? yes, money? well, i think that we didn’t spend it, we spent it on food, we spent it on the trip there and back, on gas for the car , well, we went often, very often, here are 12 chemotherapy sessions, it turns out that once every 3 weeks we went there, if suddenly the tests are bad, we go there again , we went for radiation, we also lived there in these houses every weekend home, expenses for...

she named such amounts there that i imagine that she said that in belarus it is even cheaper, in other countries they we found out, it's much more expensive there, they said they treat badly, the nurses there are not like that, here, and about belarus, about the center, about this one, i haven't heard any bad reviews, and i can say for myself that there is a wonderful center there, thanks to it, my children, or rather my son, are with me every day. i run a lot, play war games, with friends, ride a bike, play football, have picnics, i sometimes carry a machine gun, well, i have a machine gun there, where it is so long, no one has a longer one. there are no

such long pistols with a machine gun and there it is shoots such bullets with plastic balls, but we do not shoot each other with them, i only take him for a walk without bullets, because bullets are very painful, you are the main assets of our belarus, these are not just beautiful words behind these... words, sincere love, a desire to care, to protect, these are naturally the emotions that our little ones and older children evoke, for me there is nothing more important than your peaceful and happy childhood, you are generally somewhat similar to the president, yes. their people choose the one who

chooses them, for each his own. a touch to portrait.

these people are bound to their homeland. nature. how to protect polesia. all my roots. immerse yourself in this science, especially when you participate in excavations, you begin to understand that true patriotism, for me, for example, yes, is to devote time to studying your native land. watch

the poleshuki project on the belarus 24 tv channel . hello, the "sas" program is on air. i am its host nadezhda sas, i welcome you and remind you that this program is for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of the country of each of us, preparing for today's program i remembered the work

of janusz wisniewski loneliness on the network, it is still worth paraphrasing solitary on the network. how will the arrest of pavel durov affect social networks, their future about... the chinese book center opened in the national library of belarus. a representative of the prc board of directors for literature publishing and distribution said that a similar center is already popular in 15 countries in europe, asia, and latin america. belarus has become the sixteenth country to get to know chinese culture better. in turn...

a strike on energy facilities in 15 regions of ukraine. the main targets were hydroelectric power plants and high-voltage substations used to balance the energy system. the russian defense ministry said that all designated targets had been hit. the strike was carried out with precision weapons, the defense ministry said. ukrenergo applied an emergency power outage to stabilize the system. this caused problems with train traffic and water supply. in the united states independent candidate robert kennedy jr. endorsed donald trump in the upcoming presidential election, calling on americans to vote for the republican leader and suspending his participation in the campaign. the independent candidate called on his

supporters who live in traditionally democratic blue or republican red states to still cast their ballots for him, but in about ten. states where my presence on the ballot would be a spoiler, i am going to withdraw my candidacy, he said. trump thanked kennedy for his very good support and called him a great guy who is respected by everyone. kennedy jr. noted that he sincerely does not believe in the reality of his victory in the elections due to the ruthless, systematic censorship and control of the media by the democratic party, due to which, according to the politician, he is not up to... style before the election television debates. today we will talk about social networks, about how they instantly turned off even the illusion of freedom of speech. and for this i cannot help but start with an excerpt from the novel by viktor pelevin invincible sun. today you can no longer seriously fight the establishment, because

the narrative managers have covered its perimeter with all these cute kittens with alzheimer's, wounded black teenagers, and so on. behind the human shield hides the shameless mafia that creates the narrative, but... you can't spit in its direction without hitting all these gred thurnbergs. the old european serf couldn't leave his village, but he could think what he wanted. the modern american serf can travel all over the world and even fly. into space, if there is money, but his consciousness, at the same time, must run on a short leash around several pegs driven in by corporate media, the shapers of the narrative. discussing how durov tried to play his game in this system, what it led to, and what it will lead to, today i will be assisted by the deputy of the minsk city council, vadim borovik, i welcome you, i welcome you, from the russian federation with us today is the politician and political scientist sergei borisovich stankevich, i am glad to welcome you to our program. and we are adding to our broadcast french political expert nicolas merkovich.

thank you for inviting us. we begin our program traditionally with a blitz question. vadim, do you think we are returning to the system of whose country is the social network, that is , globalization is over? we should never make any radical conclusions, processes are ongoing, in general, naturally, confrontation is growing. i think that some people would like

globalization to spread throughout the world, so this is not the end yet, but we see that there are strong opponents of globalization, we see that the policy of one world, we all have to be together, it is not like that anymore. does he understand the negative consequences of the durov story in terms of the trust of influential

economic players in relation to france, finances can simply flow out of paris somewhere to dubai, where billionaires do not risk being arrested for political reasons. yes, he doesn’t care, he doesn’t care, because he is not interested in what the people in france think, he is very unpopular.

and naturally, they don’t like that people now they exchange ideas freely, as in general it should happen in a democratic system, they want to control this information. and this is just madness, a few years ago no one would have believed that the french justice system could arrest such a person, such an entrepreneur as pavel durov.

it is possible as individual actions, but it will not be forever, it will be some historical period, then the network will still exist precisely as a global one, here is the case of durov and his telegram, what he showed, durov broke ahead a little with with his telegram, forward, than all the others, all the other figures

providing platforms for global communication, now it may be , for example,

and accordingly have more influence, naturally, initially the state is looking closely, what is this, how is this, maybe, somewhere sometimes they ignore, i remember when our central channels laughed at the internet, they said, yes, what are we here , central channels, we influence everyone here, and what are they there on the internet, and then, when certain political events, we saw how the arab spring happened, how we have these color revolutions here, mediocre ones like that - we remember them stupidly, we understand how...

him for allowing the public to exercise freedom of speech. it was a western country, an ally of the biden administration and an active member of nato that arrested him. pavel durov is sitting in a french prison today, a living warning to any platform owner who refuses to censor the truth on orders from the government and intelligence services. darkness quickly descends on the once free world. to the owner who refuses to censor. the truth by order of the government, well, listen, you see, russia in this regard has taken a more civilized approach in what context? they offered to sell part of the share, from well there was a danger to the domestic political situation, because through this network a little, so the activity was controlled by protest sentiments, so he did not deny in this interview, he said that we work in hong kong, worked in belarus, and that many opposition movements use

our network, listen, what should the government do, what should it applaud, what is here, but what should the government do, it should understand, the government is obliged, it is the government's duty to ensure socio-political stability to protect the regime politically and protect its citizens, regarding whether they will regulate, here there should be a compromise, yes, some kind of compromise has been found in these, and this is difficult, you see, there are such libertarians here like chichvarkin, they say that the state should be removed altogether, nothing needs to be regulated, everything will be regulated by business itself, freedom and so on, what freedom, because it always means that there will be such sharks of business they will no longer take into account any social. citizens, so we will go to this, but it is precisely for the purpose of protecting the interests of the majority that this is a complex process, why? because now i say again, there is a global

redistribution of the world, these platforms, including internet platforms, are a tool in ... i have my own telegram channel, to which i invite everyone, that's where i am all

i explain, and at the same time a communicator, yes , a very important one, but here a colleague said that this is a tool in the hands, in the hands of that government, this government, and different governments are fighting for the redivision of the world, using this very tool in the form of a platform. you were offended there in russia, yes , they tried to close you down there, they really tried to close him down for 2 years, they closed him down, but he got around, closed down, yes, you were offended there, go to paris, live under the roof of paris,

remember, under the roofs of paris, a wonderful song, edith pyav, yes, they offered him this, but he didn't go there, he was even given citizenship in 2021 by pavel durov at the request of the minister of foreign affairs of france, who wrote in the request that durov should be given citizenship because...

i wish him freedom and all the best, but we must proceed from the reality, you understand or not, if today there is a conflict of interests of the state, and this platform in any case the state will insist on putting aside its interests by any means.

so widespread, according to data research statistic consumer inside, only every tenth person in the country is an active user of telegram for comparison in italy, spain, almost every third, let's

pay attention to the graphics prepared with colleagues, and it is worth adding that the arrest of pavel durov has fueled interest in the messenger according to the portal tech crunch in france the telegram application rose to first place in downloads among social networks to third in the overall list, i am glad to welcome dmitry vasilets to our program, and dmitry, you? besides the fact that you are the head of, banned in ukraine is a political power, and also an active user, and i can say, a telegram star, because your telegram channel enjoys incredible support from readers, what is your audience, please remind me, i have about half a million audience, how did you react to the incident that happened in france with pavel durov, for me it was actually an obvious story that with... western countries will sooner or later try to put the telegram platform completely under their control, because here, in fact, if you look at the essence of what is happening, there is

a confrontation. here in any social network, there is a news feed, it is moderated by an algorithm that is programmed taking into account interests, as we see in other social networks, in the interests of the owner, yes, dmitry, i agree with you, but you also see, there is a certain trick, because telegram channels allow you to quickly convey information, and especially today there are well-known telegram channels belarusian, russian, this simplifies interaction with the audience, but with

on the other side of the screen... it is difficult to fight, because enemy propaganda has access, and a person receives this or that information from this or that telegram channel, he must first understand, and this is a bona fide channel, whether it was created, how many nuances, firstly, hope does not need to be transferred to the religious sphere in the activities of some company, here they are for freedom, only with them everything is honest and transparent, the struggle for power for minds, the one who owns the information, owns the world, the one who can control the information flow. owns 10 times the world and today the messiah can report any of his goals to you, and how is it one person, you understand, one shareholder in the company, one, a person can have a mental disorder tomorrow, you understand, anything can happen, and that the government should not react to this in any way, so today you were given such a platform, and tomorrow a decision is made and in 24 hours certain channels will go down, and certain channels will start working more actively, you understand or not, that is, there are many

very nuances. when you concentrate such a powerful resource, which is like this, you know, like hepatitis, a gentle killer, hepatitis, yes, a person dies gradually, until it has affected the entire body, a person seems to have this type of hepatitis, he seems to walk, benefit, and then he lay down and died in a couple of days, so you understand, at the stage while this network has a fairly serious influence, but not yet 100% global, in any case , this network must have some agreements with the special services of different countries of the world, if their...

subscribers there are about half a million watch or be subscribed to your resource, these are probably some very harsh repressive measures, because when the idea comes up that... people don't decide what to watch, this is actually a very dangerous illusion, many people now live in the paradigm of the 20th century, when there is television, there are channels, and people really didn't decide then, but now the situation has changed, as far as state-run directions are concerned, china is a very good example, because everything was very strictly limited there, and china also understood that for in order to fully block western services, it is necessary... to block the most important, the flagship, the informational, western one, which was formed as a kind of model of intellectual expansion, this is of course the google corporation, with all its services, this is youtube, this

is supposedly free google mail, this is cloud storage and so on and so forth, and china has long since gone down the path of sovereignty and there the corporation was simply blocked and they began to make their own. services to their services, of course, people reacted, the chinese downloaded these applications, they use them, they use them very well, there is a wonderful messenger wechat, there are a lot of functions, there is a wallet and what is not there, that is, in fact, this path is such a serious story for the russian federation for belarus, because now , taking into account our defeat in the cold... war , we have become dependent on the winners, you see, my colleague completely confirmed my words and completely agreed with me, that is, each state, and the chinese people's republic, and the united states of america, and the russian federation, protects its

information field, protects, protects, the most totalitarian two platforms are google and iphone, here bdurov even complained about this, as soon as something was done wrong, we will immediately remove the threat from the stores and he polishes his activities, that's what. you understand, i say again, no need idealists - they are the main enemies, they lead to wars, to revolutions, to divorces, to great deaths of millions, all idealists are enemies of humanity, only a compromise will give freedom, compromise, freedom for durov, the opportunity to live,

only a compromise will establish peace in europe and will not allow this conflict to expand to the entire territory of europe, a compromise, when the parties begin to respect each other, to hear and take into account each other's opinions, we will stop fighting. networks, whatsapp, facebook, and so on, yes, these were just soft tools, these were not hard tools, yes, that is, they did not, they did not work with a crowbar, but they really softly removed the undesirable, pushed out

the desirable, that is, these were tools soft management of public opinion, that a colleague gave an example with facebook, yes, but look how he began to repent, when he began to repent, when he came out with public repentance and even wrote a letter to the judiciary committee of the us house of representatives, when he saw that he was being bypassed, that the same durov with his telegram, just about, give him another year and he will bypass zuckerberg, he will remain in the tail, because he became an instrument, and durov did not, this raider attack with the help of the french justice of nadurov and his telegram, this is precisely the reaction to that.

i firmly believe that we should not violate content standards due to pressure from any administration in any direction. we are ready to fight back if something like this happens again. yes, in his letter to the house judiciary committee, he writes that the white house expressed strong disappointment when the media platform resisted. he also expressed regret that he hid content regarding hunter biden before the 2020 election, which the fbi said could be russian disinformation. and so, based on from this, dmitry, what do you think, elon musk is next? in fact, when i hear in the media. like zuckerberg's repentance and so on, it's actually

funny, because the official position of the american authorities is the following: if a social network is not controlled specifically by the us government, meaning completely, then this social network has no right to operate on us territory at all, that's why tiktok is now blocked in a number of states, but the corporation itself was told, that its activities... on the territory of the united states, it should belong specifically to the united states of america, and this means that both the social network of mask and the social network of zuckerberg and other all sorts of these characters with different surnames, this is property in the united states of america, this whole story with the so-called repentance is an attempt to simply once again deceive people who use different applications , well... well, you see, it seems to me, a

kind of repentance, as we call it, is probably an understanding that we are not talking about a specific character, in general about the future of this industry. so, look, durov says, apple has the right rules, google, in principle, has sound rules, there is no distribution, no appeal and so on, but the interpretation of the rules and the application of the rules, and we are talking about the fact that you are unfairly using us.

you understand, and he can deceive, cooperate with the united arab emirates, with russia, with france, at the same time, there is also a very important nuance that many people overlook, the fact is that the right printing money now, as we know, belongs to the federal reserve and structures that are affiliated with merck, unfortunately, this is in fact a very strict format of control, we are observing this through the banking system. etc. and now, when we observe these currencies, and also these

cryptocurrencies were not under anyone's control, because even telegram had its own, so to speak, cryptocurrency distribution network, thus - even the generally accepted networks there trc 20 and others - which, apparently , are controlled again by the american the government did not use telegram, but offered people an alternative, either to use. or still already the development of telegram and thus the existence of telegram with a gigantic audience in all western countries, and in fact, here is the printing press of cryptocurrency, which was not in american hands, this is also a very, very serious threat for americans, and i want to remind you that remember zuckerberg decided to make his own cryptocurrency on facebook, to tell him:

people use it and there is already a billion-dollar capitalization, and this is a certain threat, in fact, what's surprising, let's have another point, we need all the essence of the process, for which we specifically. the americans arranged a military provocation, because they wanted to maintain control of the international financial system, unlimited liquidity, to maintain it for decades during the period, to gain an advantage in technology, for this they need war and containment, you understand, so of course, if he is engaged in competition today, he enters into a conflict of interests, issuing an alternative currency, because

international trade will be carried out in including using some tools, one of the tools can be digital currencies, the so-called tokens, right? if he enters this market, having a mass audience already under a billion people, its popularity is growing, he becomes a competitor, becomes a threat, and they will, if they are ready to drown europe in blood here, then what will be done with this guy, that's all, these are methods, methods of competitive, vadim, i think, the place now is to pay attention to the recent quote of the president of the republic of belarus alexander lukashenko, that's exactly about the west's reaction to the methods of fighting...

pavel durov and the consequences of these actions . let me remind you that on wednesday pavel durov was released from custody, he left the courthouse in paris in a private car, the court released him under judicial supervision, and at the same time he was charged with twelve counts, which carry a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison. durov must also post bail of 5 million euros and report to the paris police twice a week. he is also prohibited from leaving the borders of france and the details in the intricacies of this story let us remind you. in our story. pavel durov has created news stories for the media more than once, but attention of such a scale has never been focused on him before. the whole world was shocked by the news of the arrest of a russian programmer and founder of some of the most popular projects on the internet, the social network vkontakte and the messenger telegram. it

happened on the evening of august 24. the businessman flew to paris, where he stepped off the plane straight into the hands of law enforcement officers. an arrest warrant was issued in haste just a few minutes before the jet landed. about the fact that the case, it turns out that they opened it on july 8, it became known later. the initiative was put forward by the cybercrime department of the paris prosecutor's office. as the special services of france themselves commented on the situation, the founder of telegram was detained in connection with an investigation against an unnamed person. durov was interrogated as part of a case on the commission of twelve crimes. most of which are cybercrimes, in particular, he is accused of refusing to provide information to the authorities with participation in fraud, drug trafficking, money laundering, and so on. the businessman may face up to 20 years in prison, and this term is quite real. the expert community has issued

a clear verdict on what is happening. the french authorities are trying to take control of telegram. i note that in france, whose citizenship durov has, he has been declared a persona nongrata. the programmer himself, of course, knew about this and tried not to visit the european country where telegram is under special surveillance. the exception to the rule cost him dearly. the news of durov's arrest, without exaggeration, shocked the public. among those who commented on the incident or even criticized the paris authorities and the person known to a wide audience. american billionaire and founder of tesla. spacex elon musk called on the french authorities to release pavel durov, and programmer and founder of facebook mark zuckerberg noted that durov's detention demonstrates how people. defenseless before the law. the public called the arrest of the russian programmer an attack on freedom of speech. telegram's multi-billion audience

literally spread this around the world. in support for the russian, clothing brands make t-shirts, and #fridurov is walking around the web. most often, it can be found on the social media pages of the french president. macron was inundated with calls to release the telegram founder. he himself. in france was in no hurry to comment on the situation, but eventually he said that durov's detention is in no way a political decision, macron said. sergei bech, let's pay attention to the points of accusation against pavel durov, what confuses you most in this list, or perhaps repels you from understanding what was there a reason for his arrest? well, the point is to accuse a specific person, a specific individual. yes, and not the platform as a whole, events are needed, on such and such a date in such and such a place an event occurred with the participation of this very pavel

durov, yes, he did this and that, what he did is, from the point of view of the investigation , a crime, nothing like that was said or written in any document presented by the french prosecutor's office, nothing, that is, this accusation is addressed to a certain platform in... the activities of which well, 20% of the world's population is involved today, first the question, and then we'll look together, maybe there's an answer: can it be now in the current situation in the world, when one world order is collapsing, and another hasn't emerged yet, when the world is divided into camps, here 's the collective west, on one side, then the non-west, everything else, and on the other side there are missile and nuclear arsenals, tanks, planes and internet platforms, yes, here armies armed with missiles, tanks, planes and

internet platforms are starting to converge fight, we have such platforms, you have such platforms, can we imagine the existence of some island on the internet in this situation, yes, which does not depend on anyone, i agree with this, that there is no such total independence, that we will have to enter into a dialogue, we will have to establish a compromise in the dialogue. the situation is the world on our rules and the internet on our rules, why? because we are democracies, we are a civilization, everything else is barbarism, which we will call to order

, we will organize. that is, if such an approach to the internet also, then yes, then war, then such a confrontation, including using the abuse of justice, which is happening in the case of durov, an international internet constitution is needed, i explain why this will not happen yet, so that we do not waste. i explain, one of the main phases of victory in a hot war is victory in a cognitive war, the task is to reformat the consciousness of this or that territory. today there is a struggle for the minds of entire regions, the task is to win in a cognitive war, so they will fight for these platforms, they need access to certain keys-passwords and consent to cooperation, now the cake is coming. which, as i am convinced, will be included in the world internet constitution, there should be a ban in the number, yes, a ban on using

internet platforms to overthrow governments, to change political regimes, what is the problem of our humanity, stupid humanity, unfortunately, history does not teach anything, you always have to turn your guts out, the first world war, then they began agreements of the corresponding subscriptions, the second world war, conferences began, although the world has already shared under the table before the conference. now we need to turn the guts of the whole little man out again, so that later we can sign an agreement again, so that's what we are calling on lukashenko to do in this, we need to negotiate and see the negotiable side there, stop all conflicts, start seeing, because it will lead to self-destruction, and we are hostages of this situation, because we are in the center of the european plain, there are no natural barriers, so we are all ours, unfortunately, i would also like to quote a small fragment of a recent column by a russian expert. tightening control over everything related to data inevitably increases the level of repression in the information sphere,

especially since it is very difficult to jam unwanted channels in practice. it is a two-way street, but if until relatively recently it seemed that it was no longer possible to dig up the global information highway, making it unsuitable for travel, now it does not seem like science fiction. dmitry, we are finishing our program, but i want to address this question to you: is it possible at all putting telegram under the control of western intelligence services, will affect the svo and the information space of our region, because you, a direct participant.

further, he interfered in ukraine then to establish a completely american dictatorship to make a colony out of the country, and he was arrested, locked up in austria under house arrest, and he has been sitting there for, in my opinion, about ten years under this house arrest, also, for example, we need to remember the head of the binance crypto exchange, which is the largest in the world, it just has crazy billions of turnover there and so on, and this director was simply kidnapped. here are the american special services, they hung the most delusional accusation on him and, naturally , blackmailed the crypto exchange with various conditions, so that, for example, the crypto exchange would block the accounts of russians there and so on, in order to achieve their specific geopolitical interests, and we see the same regressive approach in relation to durov, that is, here exactly , a parallel can be clearly traced, how

the anglo-saxons act in relation to... promoting their interests, we need to do conclusions and react accordingly. yes, sergey borisevich, before i give you the final word, let's pay attention to the latest publication on dmitry medvedev's telegram channel. please. once, quite a long time ago, i asked durov why he did not want to cooperate with law enforcement agencies on serious crimes. this is my principled position, he said. then there will be serious. problems in any country - i told him, he considered that his biggest problems were in russia and then left and having received citizenship, a residence permit in other countries, he wanted to be a brilliant man of the world, who lives perfectly well without a homeland, ubi bena ibi patria, he miscalculated for all our common enemies now, he is russian, therefore unpredictable are dangerous of other

blood, definitely not masks, not... zuckerberg, by the way, actively cooperates with the fbi. durov should finally understand that the fatherland, what times, does not choose. yes, the fatherland, like the times, is not chosen. and this seems to me extremely important to note, no matter how much you dress up as a liberal, a man of the world, for propaganda machine, the repressive west, you are still russian, and you will be destroyed, so even relocates, russian and belarusian, should always remember this. looking ahead.

and since he advocates such a good agenda, for the fate of humanity, he nevertheless took into account the fact that peace on earth must be ensured, and we, as belarusians, are worried about peace on our land, in the peace of brotherly russia and ukraine, so i would like telegram to contribute to this in every possible way, then bdurov will be free, well, i am grateful to all the participants for today's heated discussion to finish it on an extremely important

topic that affects almost every thinking person, i would like to extensive. here is what he answered to the question: how much time do you spend on the internet? high-ranking information will not get into the welfare sphere, because it has a monetary equivalent, and the more it is... the better it is hidden. this is an economic axiom. nevertheless, picking through the husk is a surprisingly addictive and cozy activity. each such session programs you for the next one. and you shouldn't do this, because absorption meaningless information shortens life. i don't mean the number of years lived, but its subjective duration. life is the perception of information. a person has a limited capacity. thank you very much, it was a sasun program. very much to say, see you in a week,

there are no completely safe means of communication. in belarus, in my opinion, there is a very rational and correct attitude to what is called. laws must certainly be observed by everyone, but there is a nuance: the head of state, for example, said the same thing at the time, sometimes unlawful, a hurricane passed through belarus and it was necessary to quickly repair buildings and structures, they began to announce procedures for selecting contractors, as a result , a contractor has not yet been selected, work has not begun, there are two paths, the one that is prescribed in the laws, this is to agree on everything with everyone, hold a tender and so on and so forth and the one that is dictated by logic: it is raining, people have no roofs in their houses, and they are bargaining. this is the desire to put logic above emergency situations some papers - this is one of the reasons why alexander grigorievich is a leader, and

not just a politician. he is ready to take responsibility along with risks, and they do it regularly. author's project of igor turai - propaganda.