over the past years, the lakes have increased in popularity thanks to the technology and the heat, and they have brought fish and carp here, so i ask all the adventurous people on my lakes of the dzyatsinstvo, on reinik, for my lords and lords for everywhere utulna i premna, asabliva kali hours like this happen, whenever i rush, i come here i'm going to let you know about the spam. well , the first charga of this people, which we live in, this, napeina, and meats, which we love with all our souls, this is a joy for the fact that we are belarusians, this is a fee for the fact that we have our own culture , svayo language, svayo art, fires, forests and forests, and the human race among birds. everything is my native land, everything is

my native land, i do not break away from my fatherland, i do not sleep for the sake of women, for the humblest and most holy land of my ancestors. the relations between belarus and china were discussed in the palace of independence, alexander lukashenko held a meeting with the ambassador of the prc, the session of the ayun completes the diplomatic mission, it was

successful, belarus and china established the highest level of relations in history, all-round comprehensive strategic partnership. despite the distance, minsk and beijing is united not only in its assessment of the past, but also in its views on the current political situation, as well as on the future world order. i could not help but meet with you, first of all i want to thank you for everything you have done for our country, you have become, one might say, a model for... the behavior of an ambassador in the country, you have done everything to strengthen our relations, thank you very much for the fact that you have made time today to meet with me, this is a great honor for me, first of all i would like to convey to you heartfelt greetings from the chairman kaner sidimpina, and eh greetings from our prime minister. today it is important to raise

economic and investment cooperation to the level of political, together, belarus and china are capable of much in the active development with chinese partners of 15 new investment projects of strategic level amounting to 3 billion dollars. on september 5, the belarusian military destroyed drones that violated the country's airspace. the situation was commented on. in the ministry of defense. residents of gomel witnessed bright flashes in the sky. numerous messages appeared on social networks video footage of belarusian air defense forces shooting down unmanned aerial vehicles. despite the alarming nature of this message, the belarusian military once again demonstrated their professionalism and proved that any foreign military object in the skies over belarus will be destroyed. tonight, september 5 , a violation of the state border of the republic of belarus in the airspace was recorded.

presumably by unmanned aerial vehicles, a decision was made to destroy them, with timely actions air defense duty forces, all targets, violators were destroyed. an investigation is underway into this fact. this is not the first incident of violation of the airspace of the republic of belarus by ukraine. in august, the belarusian military destroyed attack drones near the kostyukovichsky district. the air defense and air force forces were put on full alert, there were about a dozen air targets, planes and a helicopter were sent out to intercept them. sales of domestic televisions, refrigerators and electrical products are growing in belarus. another the trend recorded by the ministry of antimonopoly regulation and trade is the increase in the share of belarusian goods in the checkout area of ​​stores. here, march notes the effective work of manufacturers on import substitution. in general, in the food segment, the share of domestic products is almost 77%. current trends.

enterprises, including the largest flagships of the country's food industry , plan to take part in the thirtieth international exhibition of the fair prodexpo 2024. it will open its doors to manufacturers of food, beverage, ingredient and equipment suppliers from nine countries. a broad

business program is also planned. the state strategy of belarus allows to ensure food security to occupy a worthy place in the foreign market. belgospischeprom concern will present 11 enterprises and rates at the exhibition. the domestic manufacturer makes on quality naturalness, the total number of exhibitors prodexpo about a hundred, less than 3 months are left before the start, the pavilion is already occupied by about 70% of the area. belarus presented more than 500 titles at the thirty-seventh moscow international book fair. for the russian reader, belarusian publishers have chosen the best and most interesting. most of the books are about the heroic and patriotic traditions of belarus, the great patriotic war on the topic of genocide.

a socio-political talk show in essence, on the eve of national unity day, we will talk about what the unity of belarus is, how much we have learned to be since this young holiday appeared united, how we celebrate it, and most importantly, who is stopping us from being united now, if you want to join our conversation, please point your smartphone at the qr code that has now appeared at the bottom of the screen, you can... write us any questions, we will definitely read them during the live broadcast, the second qr code leads to our telegram channel, where we share thoughts, including outside the broadcast. so, in the studio alena syrova, kirill kazakov, good evening, let's get started. well, on the one hand,

we approached the topic of national unity day so early, after all, there are a couple of weeks left. september 17 is left, we have somehow already gotten used to talking in this studio over the several years that we have been celebrating that the holiday is young, and new, and we are looking for forms, but at the same time, it seems to me that the holiday is already very familiar to us, very understandable, today the first bells rang in educational institutions of belarus, here is how we spoke behind the scenes, the topic of the first lesson, we have something to be proud of, we have something to cherish, i am sure everyone... their own, i voiced my vision for the students, they probably talked about famous figures of our country and so on, but just like that , subjectively, exactly, what we can be proud of is that we haven’t

lost our unity, after a couple of weeks, i’m sure that educational institutions will also celebrate this day, after all, for the younger generation, adults. there’s no need to explain much, here’s how to make little children, to motivate, even to make them say the wrong word, to motivate, to understand and accept, to love this holiday, here we have to think about forms, about formats, they are working, well, first of all, ideologists olga nikolaevna, well, here's a question for you right away, what orders were given this year, i probably wouldn't say orders, there was a request right away for what you would like? let's say so, therefore, in any case , initially there was a request for what events you would like to hold first of all in your region, well, in this case, it's the city of minsk, maybe there are some new initiatives, proposals, we usually limit ourselves to what, well, here are dialogue platforms, yes, we love this

phrase, we have meetings, meetings not only at enterprises, but also of course with a youth audience, of course, but this is all good, let's say it this way, we don't need to wait for national unity day for this... to communicate with young people, to meet in groups, and maybe, yes , thematically, we will be closer to this topic of national unity day, why september 17, why do we celebrate this day, what is it connected with, with what... historical events and so on, yes, we are talking about this we remind you, no, there are no problems, and i think that not only, of course, the events, the big program in minsk arena, all this begins and ends, well, traditionally, of course, yes, in general, in principle, it is necessary to form this tradition, and as they say, so that it is passed on from generation to generation, let it be so, i'm not talking about that, but of course i want some new forms of work today, because after all, the word unity is very...

but, but you understand, one gets the impression that after all, the concert on minsk arena, of course, this is the culmination, but you can’t fit the whole country into the minsk arena, in general, national unity day is a holiday that should embrace everyone, not just people, not just people who are opinion leaders, who generally communicate with each other, communicate, we don’t need to be convinced of anything, remember, last year.

that well, what’s not clear here, we should all make peace, because they went out into the streets, these with such flags, these with such flags, it’s clear that those who lost really was for stupidity for well untruth in unequivocal, but on the other hand we tried to somehow survive, uniting the country, which maybe at a certain moment looked at politics from two different sides, during this time something has changed, that's because i understand that when... the idea of ​​this holiday, including in your head arose, probably, some kind of

its concept development strategy was imagined, that's what it was to what extent is it changing or not changing now? well, we made a colossal step forward, and speaking regularly at dialogue platforms, and today at the opening of the academic year at the bsu economics department, i of course note for myself... organize something, i see that a certain self-organization is happening, well, of course, it is necessary to do this together with the executive

power, for example, for me, yes, i am still throwing in my wishes for the future, maybe they will come true after some time, there is not enough of a serious museum, the national liberation movement of western belarus, well, probably either in brest or in grodno, so that everyone, in that including citizens of poland, could look there.

this is one of the main historical holidays, of course, it cannot be depersonalized , you understand, only the front one through the face, through a specific hero of that time, we can understand him, even just a person, we need simple stories, how families were united and the result of this unification became here we are alive today, well, is it really true that grodno lacks such a museum, what do you think about the street of september 17 in the west of belarus is in each, in the east there is none, well and...

historical fact september 17, thirty -nine, when even my child immediately starts talking about the liberation campaign of the red army to the western territory of belarus on the other hand, what i was talking about is the day of national unity, because it is not deciphered further and after the twentieth year it was a symbol of the unity of belarusians in general, which of these parts is closer to the people now?

this is a historical fact, you know how victory day is may 9, of course, we defeated the fascists.

sometimes you are very harsh everyone says, well, that's it if he hadn't said so, but it seems to me, on the other hand, when you go on air, that this is the very knife that cuts off the unnecessary, cyrillic, knife, with a sickle on their ears of corn and so on, it's all clear, that it seems to me, what problem is happening over the years, the holiday is being emasculated? "here we have, oh, unity, well, we just took each other's hands, and we are united, everything is fine, here we have little red men, little green, little blue, whatever, there is no master above us, we drove the master away, we became free, we won, us, does anyone talk about who gave this order, this order was given by the supreme commander-in-chief stalin, and this holiday in

honor of the tanks of the red army, which went forward, which crossed the border to the west, on... have always been famous for this peacefulness of theirs, and the ability to find a balance between religions, between languages, between approaches, for us, in general, it is not enough to hang them on a dry aspen, because navat aspen.

in general, we are set up in the end, we always see an adequate dialogue, in general, the head of state, when, in my opinion, at one of the first rallies spoke, he said that for a long time we did not want to elevate this holiday to the rank of a state holiday, because we did not want to spoil relations with the poles, can you give an example, like i literally for one second, but alive, how we celebrated july 3, 2020, everything is fine, beautiful stamps?

as for us, adults, then the intervention should probably correspond to its word, because it is we, the people who are currently responsible for

what is happening, we talked at school today about that we are proud of something, i asked the children, who, who does all this in the country, from space, enterprises, sows bread, people, children understand, sometimes it is abstract.

he is the man who organized the genocide and colonization of belarus. lyosha, you are doing a program on belarusian radio, together with petr petrovsky, yes, in polish, and i know that it is, in principle , received with great hostility by the polish authorities, because, well, firstly, you are not saying exactly what the polish authorities want to hear, and i also understand that the conversation that is there he goes, he goes about the fact that we can live normally next to the poles.

as for historical perception and how they talked about september 17 throughout, let's take our sovereign years, we will not take the soviet union, i somehow do not remember that in my time there , schoolgirls made some special emphasis on this event, well, somehow it was and was, passed, and meanwhile this is what formed us

as we are, i am a person of the generation born under the red-green flag in sovereign belarus, in such the borders in which it exists, and i don’t understand another country, i don’t accept it, and tell me who is there, western or eastern, i ’ve never divided into such things, but i’m sure that this knowledge about what can be, when you remember, the head of state spoke behind his back there was this map of what belarus was like, right now. a small bell, in my opinion, this is what should be produced and should be everywhere in all textbooks, even from a very young age, what should make an impression on the minds sit on the subconscious of belarusians, that we should never return to this again, why and am i right, that this really was not paid so much attention to earlier in the nineties and is it enough

now, or maybe we are somewhere? in some ways we are going too far, indeed you are right that in our time we forgot this holiday, but we should understand that... we lived in a different time, the great patriotic war began, and there were common borders, of course, there was no time for this, plus poland was in the sphere of influence soviet union, starting in 1949, in fact, such wide coverage, the celebration of september 17 was cancelled, but today we...

are making absolutely different conclusions, in this issue, without looking at any neighboring, yes, even if there is a friendly state, we must broadcast

exclusively our position, which is based on national state policy in the sphere of history, this problem, the celebration of september 17. it is, of course, more relevant than ever today, so, in short, well, i am with alena, maybe with you a little not i agree that well, there was a holiday and the holiday was studied, studied, or maybe not studied, but not studied in the right way, they studied the soviet-polish war, they studied the attack together with hitler, that's what they called it, they said that we, together with hitler, divided poor poland, we pushed it through, attacked poland, we , we, no one said that, that there was no longer a polish government there, that we defended.

our most important state holidays, may 9, independence day, just find out how it differs in its in essence, we got our lands back, yes, we got back the historical basis of this unification of western belarus with the belarusian state, completed the external act, you understand, this is when people, when families were reunited, the people were reunited , you understand, in general, today, every year the celebration of the people's day...

on september 17, someone will also go and lay flowers, this is certainly important, because this is one of the components of our history, the bloodiest, the most terrible, but if you look at it this way, thirty-nine was earlier, than the great patriotic war, yes, we don’t have enough monuments now, but that means there must be something that would distinguish this day in form from all the days of the year. perhaps, as an option, yes, monuments to historical figures and heroes of that period, perhaps, i need a new proposal, if we abstract, well, from the conflict history, although we also need to know, for example,

we don’t say anything about the skidel uprising, although this is one of the heroic examples of resistance in general in the thirty in the ninth year, even before the red army arrived, unfortunately tragically, but look, if we are talking about modernity... mashka first of all to cultural figures, because there is no order to show a united belarus in art, in music, in monumental art, to embody, they talked about a monument to national unity on the square, well , where is it not yet, what is the problem, that artists have not yet given birth to anything or or well, i would like to know, he has a sketch of a large monument ready, our brilliant with this as an example, but not only, you see... we are different, i always say that this is a bit of an illusion, that here we are all

so united, we have poles, and lithuanians, ukrainians, and catholics and muslims, here is a professional, if he is given the task of splitting, he will do it, therefore we need to understand that this is a value, this is not a given forever, here is a wonderful holiday, let's say, of national cultures, yes, but so it is more ethnographic, and if the political context, here are lithuanians, poles speaking out. because the peoples want justice, and belarusians can raise this banner,

almost an anti-polish holiday, but this is not an anti-polish holiday, what we are talking about is that yes, belarus was occupied by poland at some point, well yes, no questions, well let's go, if we look deep into history, then... france fought with england, yes, the united states of america fought with england in order to be independent, but at the same time now they are absolutely normally trying to dictate conditions to the whole world, everything is fine, why should we in principle have this history somehow impose well for today, if the polish government at a certain point not in the twentieth year, again, yes, did not try to take some steps, the pole's cards were there before.

and something like this will not happen again, the jews talked for 2.0 years before the meeting in jerusalem, 2.0 years, they remembered this in order to return in 47, because again from a political point of view, from a journalistic point of view, when in grodno in the twentieth year, in august , polish flags appeared on poles, this feeling arose, why, for what purpose, as you say, the pole's cards, for some reason the polish authorities tried to split something,

how about we, for example, celebrate the day of national unity, what kind of day of national unity is this, i asked questions to people who came to work on television, why is september 17 such, such a name, yes, it exists on the streets in the west, in the east it doesn't, no one could say, no one thought about it, let's still return to forms, forms, nikolai nikolaevich, but if

we talk about the fact that here is my example with these with pole's cards, and under the brand of one, in the light wrapper of one. well, let's say, maybe, somewhere skeptical about something, well there to, i don't know, the belarusian course, yes to the belarusian leadership, he immediately went and said, yeah, this is a fucking movie, it's clear what it will be about, he was skeptical from the start, they didn't even give the film a chance to just go to the box office,

so that a person would go there, i don't know, for a melodrama, well or there for a beautiful story about love, about family and so on. and so in many ways, why us, and if you have an opinion, how we can sell september 17 to the general public, why haven't we done it so subtly yet? well, i think that we don't need to sell, it's already a marketing technology, here, after all , there is historical policy, historical memory, issues of national security in essence, but the fact is that we need to work more subtly, to use some format that is acceptable to young people, interesting to young people. this is a fact, because well, really, on this issue of the institute of sociology, the best film of belarus in all the years is brestskaya fortress, and this is really a film that young people went to see, this film is very popular, well, it is clear that it was made with the support of the russian federation, the actors there are wonderful russian, but we can do it

too , perhaps not just one film, but we need a whole series, which is just now a very popular genre, it seems to me that we need to do it gradually, and even our sociological surveys show that is it divided? well, here is my personal opinion, yes, we very often forget that grisha began to talk about the fact that in the thirty-ninth year the order for the red army to enter poland was given by stalin. they are still trying to tell us that stalin is a person, well , a rather skeptical, rather strange figure in history, although i always give an example with cherchell, which is even

stranger, and for belarus stalin is a person who united two parts of the state, two, that's why there is no monument to him nearby. but we alone will not do anything against this rampart, we need a set of images, images, to blame them, as someone else did the beloved by someone unloved soviet power, well what did the common man understand, that ilyich was sweeping out the bourgeoisie with a broom, that's what the common man should have understood, we have the image of the master , you know, grisha, when last year we discussed the concert for september 17th at

minskorenon, then many noted how great it was done, that there was no bias towards any... of the historical periods, all of ours were reflected there, they gathered, because for the first time in history we got rid of the master's whip, all of ours, all of our periods, when here in the previous part alexey spoke about the need to approach from a sculptural point of view, and olga nikolaevna wanted, i remember adding on this issue, yes exclusively through creativity, which is what i was talking about, you understand, these are political events and spirituality - this is what needs to be reunited, i still, of course, i don't care. went to the rental on the other side, but i know for sure that even those who

invited this film to watch discussed it, i mean the students we invited, colleges and many, many others, here you are you know, we watched the film with interest, yes, it 's not hollywood, it's a belarus film, listen, but the first question is the presentation of this film, its presentation, well, any audience needs to be prepared, as if you...

and there is something to talk about showing our youth, but through preserving the traditions that have been formed over the years, you see,

i apologize, maybe i didn't interrupt, rather complementing. yes, i apologize, i'll give an example, here about forgetting the thirty-ninth year and so on, once again 2.0 years the people of israel remembered before the meeting in jerusalem, a specific the event of the seventieth year, the defeat of them by the romans, 2,000 years, one second, knows, well they know everything, 2.0 years, they remembered, in the forty-seventh year they returned to jerusalem, you understand, what's the matter, but you need to understand, even as the head of state

said there today, yes he joked there at the beginning of this meeting, in vitebsk some... fuckers gathered, well, as if this is understandable, so here too some fuckers gathered here, 90% of us, but people, people in general are different and the youth is also different, it strives to understand, to find the right answers, yes our the task is to direct somewhere, but if they, if we speak in some dry, conventional language only about historical facts, then i am not only talking about history here, then... they simply will not perceive it and will deny it, you can do it in a non-conventional language, let's forget thirty-ninth, we will get forty- first. here here no, so let's designate that no one is saying that the historical background and historical facts will be forgotten, no, no, this is the basis, but we are talking about the fact that unity for us after the twentieth year, especially as a sovereign

countries, and especially at the moment when and...

to unite them so that they interact with each other, generate some ideas, and after that we will already talk about unity, working youth, in fact , these historical moments are almost uninteresting for them, so i say again that we should have other moments and other unifying ones at the basis of this holiday, vasilevskaya is, great, wonderful, so i wanted to say, let's name the street after maria vasilevskaya's estate. look, and i will ask this question: grodno nitrogen grodno, yes, quite recently, 3 years ago, the poles made a film called grodno, about how they defended the city in 1939 from the coming, the terrible ones, actually, i understand perfectly well that people in grodno probably know polish, well, they know a lot, yes, they

can watch this film, and it is right here on the internet, if they don’t know... history, well, how? yes, well, this, this is probably difficult, and i am very afraid that later, when we will not remember history, i am talking to vasilevskaya, to marina vasilevskaya, probably one of the first who said that the street in her honor should be named the street of cosmonauts here in this we were looking for portraits of vasilevskaya together with our journalists, unfortunately there are no portraits of vasilevskaya in our shop, there is another aspect of the people, i just mean that we...

and i will voice this problem, it is no secret that thousands, thousands of young belarusians go to study in poland, and many of them stay there, that is, we are tearing the best from our national body, that is, our youth, because they not the best, those who leave, no need, no need, i am sure there are very talented people there , we need to fight for them, this is the form of this fight, it is relevant now, that is, we should not just say in words, well , it is better here, no, it does not work, if they go there, it means there are some baits there, so we need to explain simply on our fingers, compare, well, consider that

the life there is better salaries, compare the real salaries there and here, look at the social services there and here, look at the real attitude to belarusians and let's say to ukrainians, to eastern slavs, that we should hush up the facts of beatings on chauvinistic grounds.

that these historical events took place, and the twentieth year that you mentioned, it wasn't just like that for us, well, it was given to us, you understand, people understand all this, don't think that no one, even the same

youth that you are talking about, i work with them every day, what we do, and where we meet, have changed, of course, they have changed, just as you said at the very beginning, and the attitudes of conviction in a sense they have changed, believe me, there should be a visual today. to understand, to perceive immediately, and today we need to work on this, to work a lot, yes, a lot, to teach, not to teach, you know, i don’t want to say the word teach, education should be inextricably

linked with upbringing today, these are inseparable things, who are today’s children, the children whom we, who came to school today, sat down at a desk for the first time, these are the people, these are ours, these are our people, these will be leaders, workers, in some not at all... yes, in some time, but it turns out that now the conditional young specialists of the national nitrogen, excuse me for citing you as an example, but this is the generation that probably studied the history that grisha was talking about, somewhere our parents were busy in the nineties with something completely different, the leaders of the country were busy with this country simply surviving and finding some kind of support, taking some kind of place in this world, somewhere... they have been missed now by adults, well adults, but young, who probably have their own families, their own work, their own affairs, interests, well no, you won't make them learn this i didn't learn

this either, i also didn't get what we're talking about now, but at the same time, i 'll say it again, this is a very large information component, you can't stop and think under any circumstances, we need to talk about this less, we need to talk about this more, what does our president say?

in poland, in order to get a pole's card there, we 've already said what needs to be done, and russians also study the history of the russian state, the russian language, and so on, we have what in general, the head of the state-pedagogical council said, in addition to some narrow aspects in which we succeed, we have wonderful specialists, but this humanitarian component is lame, which forms a person and...

and it's not that we teach someone the wrong thing, in fact we teach that, but, probably, somewhere we do not finish it, if the guys we taught still look in some other direction and somewhere forget about the main thing. our unity, we must protect remember that we are all different, but our country will survive in such a contour only if we are close and with each other. september 2, 1945 ended. world war ii, today, in fact, is a date, and this is also a moment that allowed us to be united, we saved our country, and we must remember this, about every historical date.

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