tv [untitled] BELARUSTV September 17, 2024 2:10am-3:10am MSK
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belarus 24. hello, with you the project everything is clear with marina karaman. let's talk about complex things in simple language. today we will talk about why banks take pictures of clients, whether fraudsters can hang a debt on a person by stealing a copy of his passport and how to check your credit history without leaving home? let's go! one of the banks in belarus was forced to delete 5 million photos of its clients. the pictures were taken during the registration of consumer loans. i am sure that many of you have encountered a situation when an employee of the credit department in a store or in bank, asked you to look into a small camera near the table to take a close-up photo of your face. the photo always turns out ugly, but it can be used to identify a person in the event of legal proceedings. in our country, there are 9.2,000 people, 5 million - these
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are the faces of 54% of the inhabitants of belarus, and it takes more than one year to collect their photos by simply clicking at credit issuance points. this math interested the employees of the national center for personal data protection, they reminded the bank that it is not instagram, and that customer photos must be deleted when they pay off their credit obligations. and this passion for the photo archive has become the very case when everything is ambiguous. storing a photo of clients is one of the ways to process their personal data, and this process is regulated by laws, first of all, by the law on the protection of personal data, which states that the volume of information provided, wherever, must be proportionate to the stated goals, that is, in the case of lending, you can collect exactly as much information about a person as is necessary. and will return the money, and not up to
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the end of time, and here the question arises in all its glory: how to determine whether the volume of collected data is excessive or just right? bank representatives have their own opinion on this matter, it sounds logical: the main document they rely on is the banking code, when it comes to the safety of the client's personal data, its article 121 works, it says that information about the account and its owner is a bank. secret and is not subject to disclosure. only certain categories of employees are allowed to access the databases that contain banking secrets, each of them, leaking or leaking the client's personal data, can fall under the criminal article. this circumstance itself is already quite reliable protection for client data, be it a photo or information about money in an account. and banks need a lot of personal information to protect our money, because how do banks work? some people bring there. deposits, others at interest, let
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them use them, to guarantee that the depositor's money will be returned from the borrower in full on time, you need to collect enough information about the latter, so that in... in if something happens, quickly find it, and just a passport here may really not be enough. people, especially middle-aged ones, often do not look like their young passport photos: someone has cut and dyed their hair, someone eats well, someone has grown new lips, a moustache or a beard, already at the stage of applying for a loan it is clear that it will be difficult to recognize the client from the passport photo, so he is asked to pose for a fresh photo with an up-to-date appearance. as it was... in each of the 5 million cases in our case , an expert has yet to figure it out, but it is possible to assume, why the bank kept customer data for years can be found out now. even after paying off the entire loan amount, a person often remains a client of the bank, makes deposits, applies for payment cards or installment plans, takes out a loan again, and
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the staff does not delete his data in order to quickly process a request for a new financial transaction in the future or service those that go parallel to lending. that is, in the described case, the actions of the bank employees and the personal data protection center are justified. both structures worked in the interests of citizens, each approached the issue from its own perspective. now the national bank and the center for the protection of personal data are synchronizing approaches to protecting the personal information of commercial bank clients during lending. and not only in terms of photographs, but also other information and documents, such as passports. we have them. in most cases , only the consent of the citizen can be copied and under the responsibility of the operator, employees of many stores, banks and even personnel officers of enterprises unceremoniously make copies of citizens' passports as if it were a mandatory procedure. a copy of a passport
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and a photograph are not enough to apply for an online loan. all banks link a citizen's phone number to his application. in order to carry out any financial transaction online, you need to go through several stages of verification. one of them is confirmation of entry into your internet banking via sms, that is, it will only work if, along with the data, the scammers steal the user's phone, open it , enter the code from the sms into internet banking bank. but with online stores everything is simpler, you don't have to go far for examples. in gomel , a woman secretly photographed a friend's passport and took it on lease, a walk-behind tractor for 6,000 rubles. law enforcement officers discovered the forgery and opened a criminal case . a large retail chain is unlikely to allow itself to sell goods in installments using a copy of a passport, reputation is more important. but a small online store can take a risk in order not to lose a client. in addition, a copy of a passport
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can be changed in any photo editor and an electronic wallet or profile in online casino. in general, copies of passports are a desirable prey for scammers. all bridges databases with thousands of scans of identity cards are sold en masse on the internet, having flushed your document down this drain just once, you can catch the consequences for several years, therefore you should not allow everyone to copy your passport, most often it is enough to present it at the place of demand for verification of data, check your credit history for the presence of outstanding debt to banks and others... at any time anyone can us. in the belarusian segment of the internet , there is a web portal of the credit registry, the address in the network is creditregistr.by. there you can get a full report on all your credit transactions for the last 5 years. to use the registry data, you need a personal
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account in the interbank identification system. to create it, you need to enter your first name, last name, personal passport number and mobile phone number. already in the account. you can order a credit report in your name, once a year this service is provided free of charge, then for a symbolic price. at the moment the report shows all the contracts of an individual with banks, leasing and microfinance organizations, the agreement that the citizen concluded on the borrowing platforms, where individuals borrow from each other, as well as surety agreements for collateral. you can see the full history of loan payments, late payments, and outstanding debt. the same data only: without the names and creditors' names, upon request, will be seen by other banks and companies that you contact to take out a loan or arrange it for the purchase of goods. for example, a huge number of requests for such reports come daily from mobile operators, and if you agree to check your credit history, specialists
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receive comprehensive information about your solvency in a couple of minutes. by the way, ordering such a report in your name is a good idea not only for those who are afraid that their personal. data can be used by fraudsters, but also for those who are going to take out a loan or go abroad. on january 5 , 2025, amendments to the law will come into force in belarus. on credit histories, after which upload information about purchases to the database consumers in installments, if desired , stores will be able to, and this data will also appear in the credit report. the report itself can be taken for free not once, but twice a year, and those who do not want their credit history to be requested by banks and retail chains will be able to put a blog on this information, it will be closed, develop for themselves. digital hygiene, here right on the points to describe what can and cannot be done with
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your personal data, treat the information from the passport as your information body, take care of it, open only the areas necessary to perform basic functions, do not let anyone paw you and do not send photos of the most intimate pages via the internet, well, without embarrassment, demand to delete your personal data collected just in case, if this case occurs, it is always safer to present the document in person or dictate some numbers from it over the phone. it is more convenient, of course, to dump it on the internet, but convenient does not equal safe, do not forget about it. i am marina karaman in the nuances of a photo shoot in banks we figured out. is everything clear? see you.
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i hope, i will tell you a long and long pit, and i will write my father's name. a great deal has come our way, we have saved our lives, like the connection between the dead and the names of the gods, like the holiness of god’s hell. what do we mean by life, and by the way, the real slaps of the price tag, but i will believe in your mary, i wrote this great scribe, o land you are my dear, i love you, hi the song of my father , and the forty
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of the oldest belarusian scribes, laureate of stalin prizes, people's artist of the bssr, yakub kolas. with the right-hand report of the speech of the gallery of the sakratar of the union of savetskih writers of the bssr, paet petrus brouka. we are sorry to say that the belarusian savetsky literature has been successful , saying that it was born in the stoden kingdom of the kamunist party of balshaviko. long live and live forever, kupala song for the people. it was announced that the belarusian city will celebrate the fourth anniversary of the death of the tyrant yanka kupala.
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linking for the installation of a memorial plaque on the farm, where the people of the country have arrived, the parents of the savetskiy and party arganizatsy. meeting of the senior leader of the union of savetsky writers of the bssr, mikhas slynkov. the elder of the kalgasy named yanka kupala, there were partisan comrades krautsov, saying: “it’s the hour of war.” belarusian writers mikhas lynko, petrus brouka, maksim tank, arkadz kulyashov for the month of mass events. on this roller coaster, the name of the step. administered by the 60-year-old people's president of belarus, yakub kolas. i express my sincere gratitude to all of you who paid me your attention.
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museum of the oldest writers of belarus, kandrat krapiva. and who is there in the agro? ganar name of the folk writer of belarus. yes, mikhas tsikhanavich often stays with the state, both tall and small . the dzyatsi have the first tortured madman, great mikolka paravoz. not only the director, but also the author, andrei yagoravich makayonk, helped us understand and reveal the characters of the song. well for goodness sake, only luska is needed. luska
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is a good man to talk about the brave sly ones, about whom he is playing there, singing this, about the cow, with great irony. the prime minister of this praises. the era of western domination is becoming a thing of the past, the center of global progress, economic gravity, and even political decision-making is shifting to the south and east. there will be no red lines, it is this line, the state border, as soon as you step on it, i say, as a border guard, the response will be
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immediate, that's why you definitely had to buy something imported, if not gucci and versace, then that's it, i'll buy it. this is the habitat of endangered animals and birds that you won't find anywhere else in belarus. the main topics on the main broadcast. watch on the belarus 24 tv channel. i'm still a young deputy, i'm still getting used to it, i always
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make any decision in life consciously. very often my friends and my new colleagues tell me. turn off the prosecutor, i think that i won't be able to completely turn off the prosecutor, when i got to borsla, i realized that our land is the most beautiful in europe there is no such thing anywhere, it is common knowledge that laws are not such that they suit everyone, the time has come when we must increasingly develop civil initiative, the regime tells me, you have been approved, filming is in 10 days, they sent me to dena georgievna, i studied with her, she says, you are thrown straight into the ocean, of course i am afraid, but i... good evening! today we will sing good songs and tell heartfelt stories. i would really like people through small things, through animals, through nature, through beauty, to become themselves kinder and better. the say don't be silent project. don't miss new episodes on the belarus 24 tv channel
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not to go crazy, pay attention to this, don't pay attention to this, and so on, and i i started writing, well, since i like it, i do it from the heart, and it's not a secret, it helps business, then little by little and then it turned into, really, at some point i made a telegram channel on the advice of friends, well, they told me, you will have an audience of several tens of thousands of people, maximum, who are interested in investments, well , today it's already a really huge audience, people are interested in finance, investments. what will happen next, what are the global trends, we'll probably talk about this, and what will happen to their personal money, where are the cars, this is they are primarily interested in whether
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the majority of the population, everyone thinks, so what if - and you know, again the topic of scammers, there are a lot of them, they are trying to get our money by any means, they call me regularly, well , we will definitely talk about scammers today, but you worked in israel, right? i look at any situation, from two sides, on the one hand, yes, this is a colossal challenge, these are things that you and i have never covered, this was not in any textbook, on
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the other hand, it is a challenge, because leaving western corporations are niches, lack of information, this is a niche, bloomberg left, and where to get data, interpretation of data, understanding of data, sanctions, those who imposed sanctions are officials, officials act according to their own official laws, true. now they have become a little smarter, but against them are people who are engaged in business, who are used to, here is our russian businessman, he has been used to getting out of it for 30 years, finding options, you understand, that's why i laugh, i say, moses led the jews for 40 years, yes, our reality is 30 years our businessmen were brought up, and you guys, in a year you want to do something, you laugh, that is, it turns out that now the education is going on american and german, conditionally yes entrepreneurs. economists in new conditions, they have to work, and these are far from economic conditions, these are not just non-economic conditions, they themselves do not understand what to do, they are often afraid
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to take certain actions, you see, russian business is built very interestingly, the brains of a russian businessman and a foreign one, a foreign one is always used to working in a very understandable, comfortable conditions, orрrales, this is possible, this is not possible, and we are used to working. in conditions when, you know, this is a niche, you can't do this , then you can do this, you can't do that either, okay, then you can do this, if anything, i'll ask my friends, you know, as i always say, what's the difference between a good lawyer and a bad one, a bad one says that you can't, and a good one, how can you do this, of course, of course, and what is happening today, for them this is often an unsolvable problem, but for us it is an opportunity, and i see every day my friends come to me, listen, there is such a mechanism calculation, what are you? you think, listen, i 'm doing export there, or parallel import, comrade, you'll be surprised, i'm in turkey, he calls me at that moment, says: go downstairs, i say, what's the matter, i, who
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do you see, i see, it's me. i say, it's like you , well, you know, he says, well, parallel import, he turned on his brain a little, that's it, i know that you often start a conversation with any person with a joke, something encouraging on the topic of sanctions, for example, do you have one, of course, you know, well, let's start with that, that's why i like jokes or anecdotes, you know, such a concentrated expression of sarcasm, or on the contrary... some reality, this is a very wise thing, in fact, a joke and a deep anecdote, but about sanctions, you know, you told me about the westerners, so i came up with this joke, the main problem of our western counterparties today is to find gray schemes to bypass their own sanctions, well, this is true, this is the absolute truth, well , and another evil joke also on this topic,
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you understand how we are doing there on the accounts? how does schulz manage to justify politically the necessity of the blown up nord stream in the interests of germany? this is a paradox for me, but he has managed to do this for two years, completely normally. this simply says that he is probably frivolous as a politician, as a politician, with the economy it is a little more complicated, okay, the german one, today, in principle, talking about money, is it bad form, or is it already normal?
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here is the fortress, from which you first disowned, yes, and then you plunged into it headlong, this is also a subject fraud, here in the same instagram, almost every day we see infocygans there, yes, who tell how they were with orphans, yes, in one moment - they became millionaires, here are endless courses, mining, blockchain, it is clear, and most often just transfer real money, and i will withdraw it to you in crypto,
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for example, yes to the field of miracles, right? this is true, isn't it time to regulate this area by law and how? well, let's start with the fact that we will not regulate scammers in any way, they were, they will be, unfortunately, but this is part of the general life, if the country does not have its own righteous, then there are no swindlers, then there are always both, you understand, but this is just a joke, but seriously, look, the world is developing, the same hammer, it can be used for construction, for hammering
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, the birth of the blockchain. blockchain is the technology that is part of our life today, so crypto has become part of our life. business arose, mining arose. there was an understanding that crypto is a unique sphere, a unique product, by the way, a product is either money, you understand, yes also a discussion, well, you and i tried to discuss this, yes, that's absolutely right, but in my opinion, this is a product with unique properties, okay, they have good consumer properties, i can throw money anywhere without any compliance, you will say: stop, stop, but what about the fight against terrorist financing and money laundering? is there such a problem? aimal legislation, so look, crypto is a truly unique product that allows you to solve a variety of, often even incredible problems, but is it necessary to regulate, yes it is necessary, yes it is necessary,
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another thing is that regulation should be of a reasonable nature, stimulating rather, that is, please, earned on crypto, present, show, as in america, by the way, they have it simple in this regard, that is. earned in crypto, report, pay tax, go, please, some time in candy wrappers in crypto, no question, this is the first, accordingly, simplicity and ease of reporting, this is correct, this is the introduction from the gray zone to the white zone, yes, this is reality, it gave us a feeling, it solves such and such problems, pay attention, today the central bank of russia, which previously said, guys, crypto, yes, yes over our dead body, we don’t even want to know, and what’s the result? they said: you know, that for external economic calculations, yes, perhaps, yeah, yes, this is really so, because today sanctions try, pay off, many today can buy crypto for rubles, this crypto
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allows you to pay off partners and solve the problem of sanctions, because not a single biden, not a single paul, not a single, i don’t know, head there can close, especially if you count with those stable coins that are circulating here. that 's all, that is, this is the most important tool, which today is intended to solve a huge number, in particular, calculation tasks, import tasks, therefore, you know , they tell me, now there is a catastrophe, import, everything has stopped, yes, this is nonsense, people will invent 30 ways, while around russia there are various countries that want to make money on this business, in which there are enterprising people, this is great, now since this will be a new sphere, you know, i'm looking at...
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do it this way, you can read me, you can not read me, i am telling you what the laws of development are, how they work, what are the possibilities, then people say: oh, that's interesting, well 10 million, you understand, that's a wish, a goldfish. well , a goal, a task, whatever, that's normal, well yes, you know, tasks should always be ambitious, otherwise why live, well look, i'm already like the minister of information, yes i'll ask, the same musk, buys twitter for 44 million.
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the community, you see, when the state starts to regulate something very much down to the details, it's impossible, simply impossible, then the ministries should inflate to the level of, i don't know, half the country is there, i understand you, each should have a wild number of experts, no need, the state should form the general rules of the game, then, then this can be given over to the professional community, who will figure it out themselves, you need to work with them, you know, and here everything is fine, the main thing... give them tasks, guys, we need to solve social problems, whoever solves
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this is a good guy, whoever does it so that people's money just disappears is not a good guy, so the members of the association should be those who are right, who will decide this themselves, there is no need to decide from above, you understand, it seems to me that this way, probably, will be more rational, more rational, i agree, but it turns out from your words that in order to conditionally create a new youtube, yes, or develop the existing one, the state is simple. you know, but the state, seeing that someone makes an interesting, understandable network, well, for example, here i will give a specific example, not something abstract, i have... friends are creating their own link in russia, one,
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in other words, a way, in essence, because we have a colossal problem with personnel, if you can find good, good personnel through this network, then this is great, this is the right social task, well, so great, the guys are creating a network, we have kolkovo, accordingly, go there, ask for a grant, get a grant and work, create a network that will be a useful, b, that will be optimize employers' labor costs on... search, well, let him earn money, we lived better, new jobs, great, here's the industry, we talked about crypto, let's make it an industry, let's do what makes the people working in it - these are the right people, well, who carry, as i say, good eternal forward, but i like what you mentioned, these people still need to be trained so that they understand how important this or that direction is, and if we're talking about the fact that the state should form the rules, there should be people in the state, who understand. what rules need to be formed at this particular moment
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in time, that's right, but okay, here's black monday, we like to say, yes black monday, black swans, black days, our cult to leave for a rainy day, yes or save for a rainy day, what's really happening now in the world of finance, yes the stock market crash on august 5th in america, and in the world, this is not the beginning of a new 1987.
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with artificial intelligence, but by and large a bubble, because artificial intelligence will solve all our problems, everyone ran, amd and and so on, yes, this is known, we went through this many times in our time, many times, secondly, a colossal budget deficit, huge corporate debts... rising costs of logistics schemes, rising costs of checks, you understand, this is also inflation, which is announced in america, that it is 2-3-4% there, but in reality, people who go to the store understand that everything is a little different, but these are methods, no one is deceiving this, these are just such methods, let's leave this in the country, and you understand,
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a huge number of problems have accumulated and not only these, then at some point large investors, i follow large investors and what they do on... ai is also selling this guy leather jackets are also selling all his stakes, the guys understand, overvalued, and a huge number of individuals, funds come to the market, who say hooray-hooray, well , it always happens, so look, black monday, its reason was the decision of the bank of japan to raise the rate, let's be honest: they raised it to zero, well, by pennies, the rate became 25%, well, nothing, but the ena was 160, instantly 142, that is, a sharp strengthening of the yen against the dollar, everyone clutches their heads, oh my god, how will they, well, this is the market, it is emotional, how will japanese
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manufacturers, exporters live, they will all die, shares of japanese manufacturers instantly fall, of course. but now here are the practical conclusions, this all makes you think about the fact that all these inflated ponies, this is a serious thing, the slowdown is happening, when everyone says that the world was dragged by china, which gave a confident 5, 5.5% economic growth, china is trying, now it is stimulating its economy, everything
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equals 4.7, it doesn't work, the population is heavily indebted, demand is weak, you know, there are a lot of problems. so do i expect shocks? do i think these are the first signs? yes, i think so, i think these are the first signs, the world is undergoing a reformatting in parallel with this. evgeny, and what do you think about the thesis that sounds something like this: america deliberately provoked the war. in ukraine , in order to economically weaken europe and russia to earn money in the end, i won't tell the whole chain, yes, to earn money ultimately 90 trillion dollars to reduce their economic problems. you know, the fact that americans
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are used to solving their problems with someone else's hands, we know this very well and by force, often, it is not a forceful way, even, it is an administrative way, when... further we will regulate, you know, what worries me most in this story, there is a theory of controlled chaos, which helps to solve various problems in the end by planting others to pull out their economy, well honestly, yeah, and there is a theory of uncontrolled
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chaos, that's the problem, and those who think that chaos is controlled, it will always be controlled, that's where the guys are very cruelly mistaken. at some point, you see, there is a reformatting, today i already said, of this world, and the financial world, because many people ask themselves the question: why is everything arranged this way, is it wrong, irrational, unfair, and who benefits from it, to be honest, i 'm writing a book on this topic right now, and so on, there are a lot of questions there, there is no politics here, there is just pure, you know, rationality, economics, all these endless procedures, when... it's getting so complicated for us, everything should be simpler, but it's getting more and more complicated, again, i have nothing against anti-money legislation, that is, we need to figure out where the money comes from and everything else, but when... it turns into a tool for slowing down some, you understand that the largest offshore in the world, you know which one,
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america, well, it's on the tip of my tongue, yes, that's the whole point, that is, you know, the americans are doing everything to make transactions in the world very problematic, ask any businessman, you have transactions and the bank asks you a billion questions, tell me what color your grandmother's coupons were when she got married, no, you can't, but then we'll freeze them, here you go.
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central bank reserves have fallen over 8 years from 65 to 59%, this is very serious, and this is a trend, so look, while it is 59, well 59, the americans are not sleeping either, they understand this, they will counteract in every possible way, you know, i like the old joke that says the following, if... you are running away from a bear, the most important thing is not to run last, as they say, to overtake your friend, yes, absolutely
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right, so, and if something happens to you will substitute at the right moment, well, to make it easier to run, well, you know, i like the feeling when you come to russia, that there , after all, when the conversation about calculations is in rubles, yes, it is changing little by little, really russians and moreover, you know, i will continue what you are saying, i work with wealthy people, i manage assets and so on, well, not only with retail they also work, so i see how many accounts in russia on the stock exchange have arisen, they came from abroad and the size of these accounts, if before the account there i don’t know 100 million rubles, this is a huge account, you know, this is great, well, that is, 100 million today there are how many millions 2000 dollars, today a huge number of accounts are hundreds of millions of rubles, even billions of people came. they realized that they are more comfortable there, no one
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will arrest them, interest rates are high, this is not very good, but this is a separate story, well , why not stay in ruble instruments, if there are no claims against you, so i will tell you more, the population also reacts in exactly the same way, if they see that there is stability has existed for many years, they invest in the national currency in any case, they keep it, yes, precisely because today you have a meager percentage for a dollar, yes...
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some did not accept it even from a purely pocket point of view, i myself spoke with many germans who said that guys, well, we began to live twice as worse at the time of introduction, and everything became more expensive for them, you are absolutely right, look, after all, the english, the english did not go for brexit in vain, they were tired of the dictate of brussels, then their english the law came into conflict with continental law, there are many reasons for that, and the irritation of english businessmen, populism and politics, all together, but left... the english alone and in the euro, so that - look, and for me this is probably the biggest mystery, why, what is the eurozone, it is a single monetary system and a disparate fiscal system, everyone has a different tax system, and this is the potential for a future explosion, because everyone formats their economy in their own way, they see hungary in one way, it begins, right there on hungarian sanctions, because guys, you
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see it wrong, you are politically short-sighted, you understand? as they are told from brussels and so on, i don’t know whether the european union will quickly fall apart, but i, well, i at least see that there is potential for spending on several zones, this is a possible option, and the europeans can play themselves out, playing their political games, playing their, you know, these games, not even with excessive tolerance, with excessive stupidity, which they themselves allow, that... they have not given france away, so to speak, those who are very different from the true french, but this is a separate conversation, i will not, otherwise i will be accused of all mortal sins, well yes, evgeny, once in your speech you named crime and punishment, where crime is the printing press launched during the pandemic, punishment is inflation and the resulting consequences, i remember
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somehow not the same, here is the punishment, the awareness by the whole world that the world needs to be reformatted, that's how this is a big question, right now and the subject of discussion, now - look, so the first question is - this is a crime, punishment, everything is much deeper, i think, and much more serious, they launched a very serious machine, it worked before, but it went, you know, at full speed rethinking this whole world creation idiots poor people, well
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, can this be briefly? how to answer this question: poor people, you understand, poor people, they can become, they can say, yes , go to hell, do everything differently and live by your own laws, poor people, they will be reformatted very much first source dostoevsky, go away, yes, i'm leaving, because it's difficult to answer your question, it won't be correct, he developed this theory a little differently, okay, i understand, okay, for me personally, yes, and not only for me, entry to the eu has been closed since 2021, so i easily exchanged the old lady in europe for china and not only, that's true, for me china is an economy that is developing faster.
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things, and a certain dictate, these guys are like that today, why do we need this, you know, everyone has their own views, someone is under economic dictate, someone is under administrative dictate, someone is under barriers, as the chinese say: oh, guys, what kind of trade barriers are these? the west says, stop, we are now giving you these barriers, guys, but where is the competition, where are the laws of economics, yes, exactly, then the question arises from all those who say, let's develop normal and... and let's somehow solve our problems together, it's logical that they are uniting, this way and that, you understand, brics, it was originally just an abbreviation that didn't mean anything, well china, brazil, what's the connection.
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