joint - that's such a common feeling of divided borders, you are a separate state, we, but these two states that understand each other and that cherish each other's honor and glory, therefore, may god give you health and health to your leader, we can only thank you, vladimir lvovich. that you found time in your schedule for this interview with us and, following the great oleg pavlych, repeat that work, this will only be good for everyone, thank you very much, thank you very much, to you and to us all victories, we, tatyana shcherbina and victoria popova, we say goodbye to you for today, goodbye, goodbye, vladimir mashkov is speaking now, dear friends, dear great belarus, i want to wish you... health to everyone, success,

so that all your endeavors lead to incredible discoveries, thank you for your talent , for your friendship with our great russia, we love you very much and will always be with you.

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. in ancient times there was a technique of wood lace scanning, then it was lost, but more modern people saw it and decided to recreate it, here a group of craftsmen gathered under the leadership of vladimir tsukunov, so they decided to invent a machine that would make

beautiful shavings, by trial and error they made a machine that makes thin shavings, removes them, from which you can... and they worked on the invention, that is, i was little, i came, i knew all of them personally, we walked there, well, we did our own thing, the guys did their own thing, and then it turns out our father died and vladimir tsukunov took his older brother to be an artist, so

the older brother came there, and we, well, he gave it to us us, natya try in childhood, well we tried, well so that we really liked it, so no, well it's interesting. it was a little bit, i never thought that i would do this, and when we got older, after the army, there is the bulk, that's when interest appeared, perseverance, firstly, it appeared, because good, when we were little, i wanted it to appear quickly, but quickly and well did not quite work out, in principle , i got into it practically since childhood, and i, in principle, while i was on maternity leave, little by little began to help vitalik, there are some little things, there with velvet, first all these rags in a box, well and then little by little i started there, somewhere i look, then he doesn’t have time, this, well i think, let me try, well i tried and decided that in principle after

maternity leave i will kind of work with him, well i have enough perseverance and patience, why not. our works have traveled almost all over the world, we know for sure, in england there is 100% and there is more than one work in america, bill clinton once had a box made for a gun for a pistol, several went to the vatican works, two icons were leaving.

all, no, for some reason we don’t do that, they are there, well, even if we try to sit down and count, the maximum we can list is large icons. on average, we make a dish , we mainly make it, on average, each dish takes 3-4 days, each member of our workshop takes part, that is, in the production, we divided the work among ourselves so that everyone has their own responsibilities, someone there at least needs to paint it, prepare it, sand it, well, that is, all these works also need to be done by someone, someone glues one, someone glues a pattern, someone... let's say, i really like, let's say, to fill this pattern with very small shavings, if

it's some kind of icon, large in size, then on average 3-4 months, again, each member of the workshop does something of their own, each has their own responsibilities, there is no such thing that i, let's say, did not take part somewhere, we end up with four artists, the main ones and two apprentices. well, and our children are still like that, we don't force them, well, i think that maybe they will come, if ever they themselves, that is, they, sometimes, when their interest awakens, they do something, and so, well, the bulk of our scanists are 4 + 2, that is, two are still in the stage, we are all in the training stage, but two of us are a little weaker and four... three of them, well, probably exactly, then all four, they are the top best scanists,

there are no more of them anywhere, because in principle it originated here and even in gomel, not to mention the country, they even from gomel go nowhere in particular, work, and the artists are all here, because of this it is called sosh filigree, that's it only craftsmen from gomel.

grows in the garden, everything, we saw everything and from friends, from stone fruits, apple, plum, in general, everything that we collect ourselves, from acquaintances, in the forest, this is, for example, probably buckthorn, but firstly, it is very rare to find it in the forest, and secondly, it is very thin, due to this we value this wood, well, that is, we use it very carefully, to the point, because we know what to get. it gives in, we use stained oak, but very rarely, because it crumbles due to the structure of this here is its loose, it crumbles very much to use it hard, maple can be used, birch can also be used, rebina. very good color and also only not forest, because in the forest they are too thin, that's where if

someone is pruning, also very good color, we try somewhere, the only thing we don't use at all is resinous, because there is a discharge, even if it is tapping, that is, well, they drained the resin, there are still residues there, it may not behave very well, it is unpredictable, the tree is alive anyway and... no one can say how it will behave. still in progress we use frames, we make special ones, that is, we make frames so that the drawing retains its shape when we take it out. the whole difficulty is that first we find the wood, then dry it, then process it, then we saw special plates, in principle, in the end we use, probably, 5%. of wood, maybe 10% of what we prepare, the cutting affects how

plastic or non-plastic the wood is, how it behaves? each of our works is a unique product, uh, of course, there are times when we are asked to do this so many identical pieces, we immediately explain to people that yes, they are identical, they look like they are the same, but at the same time, if you look closely, they are not the same, because somewhere the size of some dot does not match, somewhere else there is something else, well, in general we draw ideas, for example, i very often.

to say that something specific, no, it just happens, well, well, our top includes, this dish, boxes, cases seem to be the same, pictures, well, due to the drawings, pictures, the frames are pushed apart, that is, they turn out to be completely different, despite the fact that they are similar. on the outside, but because of the drawing they are completely different, they have different characters, in principle , each of us artist has a little bit of his own style, and character, mood in the pictures, well, it all is conveyed, even with a good mood, if you do it with a bad mood, you can understand where it was done with a good mood, and

where not, because with a good mood you look at the product, well... it breathes with something light, well, it is pleasant even to hold it in your hands, and if with a really bad mood, it absorbs negativity, and not very well, so we try to work in principle only in a good mood, and we did two works, we did it for more than 6 months, we did it in parallel, one of them is in the church of all saints, an arched one, this is the herk of minsk around... the willows of the cities, the second was, the second - it was on it, yes, a philaret, firstly, they are the largest of all that we have done in all this time, well, there, probably as tall as a man, a philaret, yes, a philaret is 60 meters, a frame, height of 80, the second is that in the temple of all saints 2 meters. in my opinion, a person

who wants to do filigree, wants to create such things, well, at least should have nerves of steel, patience, just perseverance, health, eyes to see well, because the details are very small and very difficult, the strain goes to the eyesight, the back, yes, well, the most important thing is perseverance, you need to be ... present, perseverance yes, all this is good, also, well, after all, some kind of creative gall should be because if there is no generator of ideas, then in

basically, well if you just sit and think that now i'm going to do something, well, not...

for the first time, they always ask: what is this? well, living material, when people see our products when you say that it's wood, they ask: oh, it can't be, well, how did you do it, how, well, you start explaining, showing, as a rule, you take out your phone and photos, where you take step-by-step photos of the work process for yourself, you explain to people, and well, many don't even believe, well, how was it and... that it's made of pasta, so all the magic is in the fact that it is wood, and no one can think that it is possible to do such a delicate filigree work. if there was an opportunity

to change something, lately in our family we have been talking among ourselves about the fact that perhaps, someday, in the near future, we will have to go to work. and what to do? i don’t see myself anywhere else, well, i just don’t see it, i can’t imagine how to go to work there from eight to five, everything is strict, everything is under control, well, i’m used to working for myself, for my pleasure, because i like it, i probably would have done it anyway when i started, it seems like well, it wasn't like that, now we've gotten so into it, we even had time, we agreed to do it on the weekend. work, but it still pulls, i walked around, walked around, well, that's it, the weekend needs to end already, because i already want to do something a little, well, we never

got to the point of arguing, so while she herself hadn't gotten into it yet, she just walked and mumbled that it was a day off, let's go for a walk, we'll go there, let's go here, but i'm not interested nowhere, i was interested in sitting, doing something so beautiful, and then i got involved and also no longer. as a housewife, i still need a day off, well, because it's washing, cooking, cleaning, all this lies on me anyway, and his day off, i see him walking around, looking for something to do, and my day off, well, while i've done all the work, like, well, i'm tired, i want to rest at least a little, so yes, he can't do without work at all.

in general, we were born in gomel together, when there was an opportunity to build an apartment, when it was our turn, we were offered other options, but we still settled on kolenovka, because the places here are beautiful, the forest, we came, looked, liked everything. one of the most beautiful places in the gomel region is the estate, here it is located in the potskevichi korenovka, it was their hunting lodge, well , here they preserved it, restored it a little, such a beautiful place turned out, where you can go for a walk, breathe fresh air, there are quite a few cars here , despite the fact that it is the 21st century, well, beautiful, good.

before the army, it turns out, i worked in a restaurant, i went to the army, while in the army the restaurant closed, it turns out i came back without a job, well, i tried this and that, there were no more places in the restaurant, in any, i tried to do a little construction, well, and then my brother said, let's try, like, i came back and... i started doing it more professionally, it got even more addicting, but i still can't stop, i was born into

a family of ordinary workers, but creativity has always been in our family, our father was very good at drawing in principle. from a young age i practiced more with the older ones, i was very small, but he practiced drawing, that is, we sat at the big back table, drew, he prompted, that's probably where the streak came from, because he drew very well, then he did veneer paintings, and we saw all this, like, well, that 's probably where my older brother got it from, he has a little bit of an artistic streak.

i sang a lot, danced a lot, but all this was in childhood, well, until i was about 15, then i somehow abandoned all this business, i still tried to study somehow, so that to enter, well now it turned out that creativity is my thing, our vacation usually happens, here we work as a big family. very often we vacation as a big family, we go out into nature, and even went to the sea, a big huge family, we couldn’t even find a house, and somehow everything is friendly, well sometimes there are small troubles, and here we go out, more, probably, after all , we have an active vacation, that is, we go fishing somewhere to fry shashlik somewhere on the road, yes, we even bought

ourselves a special boat. and now we fish with boats, well, that is, even if it's a one -day trip, we still put up tents, a fire, everything as it should be, active recreation, what we love, if there is a desire to do, well, one desire is kind of... not enough, it has to be a huge desire, because it's not just a boredom, you have to be ready to be completely absorbed by the idea, because it's most likely not possible to earn money, at least not right away, for sure, there will be a lot of trial and error, a lot of defects, the stages take up a huge amount of time for us preparatory work, that is, first

the wood needs to be obtained, then... dried, then it needs to be cut, planed, that is , we have a huge amount of just garbage that goes nowhere, and then only we implement our ideas, pictures, and they also take a lot of time, i want to use beautiful, bright colors, a lot of time needs to be selected so that they match, so that again the wood, so that... it is cut after all, so that it is properly dried, prepared, even the wood we work with goes through some period of time, it practically becomes unusable, it also has to be thrown away, if you are not completely absorbed in it, well, it is very difficult to work, here it is not enough just to want it, you have to be completely absorbed by it, then probably something will work out,

a person who... let's say, would like to do this business, creative work, first of all he must be ready that this requires constant perseverance, if a person is active, he is used to being on the move all his life, no, here - after all, most of the time we spend time sitting, patience must be, creative some artistic data, yes, a person must see, but on the other hand, everyone has their own vision beautifully. we take wood, when in our hands, yes, partly we, it prompts us, some small direction, but it is the pictures, the idea that we control, very often we adjust the wood to what we see, at least we try very hard, because not always, but we only assume, as they say, and wood, it changes color, then

there are shades, you have to take all this into account and different wood changes in different ways, once, well, when we were younger, it seemed to us that happiness was ahead, and then over time we came to the conclusion that, probably, happiness is here now, that joy is, that is , well, our favorite job, our beloved family, well, that is happiness, everything is fine, even when we have some difficulties there in creativity or some other minor troubles, all the same, it doesn’t cover it, it’s still, well, it all works out...