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took place in the united states. a heated discussion between the two presidential candidates, which lasted for an hour and a half, took place live on the abc television channel. the candidates discussed a wide range of topics in domestic foreign policy. usa, including the economy, the ban on abortion, illegal migration, as well as conflicts in ukraine in the gas sector. american entrepreneur elon musk admitted that democratic presidential candidate kamala harris exceeded the expectations of many during the debate with her republican opponent donald trump. at the same time, he expressed the opinion that trump would still do a better job as head of state. the results of a poll published last weekend show that the euphoria from biden's replacement with harris has passed, and... came out ahead again, but only by 1%. other polls still give the advantage haris, but in all of them the gap between the candidates is so small that no one can predict the outcome of the upcoming elections in november. the current president

of algeria, abdelmadjid tiboune, won the early presidential elections held the day before. three candidates were running for the highest state post, from the front of socialist forces of the... islamist party of the movement of the society for peace and the current head of state, who ran as an independent candidate. the turnout in the recent presidential elections was about 48%. the president of algeria is elected by popular vote for a five-year term, and the head of state can only hold this post for two terms. to win, a candidate must receive more than 50% of the vote. tensions between germany and poland over the disruption of gas flows are growing. polish prime minister donald tusk unexpectedly cancelled a visit to germany, where he was to receive an award for strengthening democracy. the trip was cancelled amid a noticeable deterioration in relations between warsaw and berlin due to the release of details of the explosion of the north stream 1 and nord stream 2. in july, polish

authorities refused to extradite a ukrainian suspected of sabotage to germany, and donald tusk responded to a report about poland's possible involvement in the incident with calls to shut up and... apologize, which caused indignation among german politicians. more than 100 years ago , the english writer oscar wilde noted: spies are a dying profession, newspapers do all the work for them. from the heights of today, it is clear that he was wrong about the main thing. the methods change, but not the essence. intelligence, espionage, influence operations, all this has not disappeared from arsenal of states of large corporations. moreover, those same newspapers only became part of this game, and today in the image of the master of the feast hides the one who... was called a knight of the cold war in general and in the fight for the square and the dagger, and the role of the special services in the new ukraine, in particular, we will talk in today's program, welcome in our studio is already present ruslan anatolyevich kosygin, deputy chairman of the standing committee on national security, house of representatives of the national assembly

of the republic of belarus, welcome, glad see in our program andrey viktorovich manojl, doctor of political science, professor of moscow state university named after lomanosov, good afternoon, well, joining our broadcast via skype. politician, member of the serbian parliament dragan stanojevic. greetings to you, dragan. greetings, dear friends. traditionally, we begin our program with the blaits question, i address this question to each of the participants of today's program. we have intelligence officers, they have spies, is there a difference? andrey viktorovich immediately addresses this question to you. well, the difference, of course, is vanishingly small, because that spies and intelligence officers are the same thing, synonyms. in soviet times , there was simply a tradition in the soviet union that ours are intelligence officers, theirs are despicable spies, but in fact, they have intelligence officers, we have intelligence officers, they use the same methods of operational intelligence work. yes, you know, ruslan anatolyevich, i think it was extremely important to discuss this topic, because

today the degree of instability in the whole world and the lack of trust between states gives rise to active work of special services, especially... five countries between which certain conditions of interaction have been established, in this regard this is an example of cooperation, intelligence services of western countries, and not only that,

by the way, there are several of these formats, not only five eyes, but there are also a much larger number of eyes, several more formats, each of which works - these are very close words in meaning, why? because, well, an intelligence officer obviously carries out intelligence tasks, analysis, information collection, analysis, provision for decision-making. a spy, well, this is a person who, among other things, carries out various tasks recruited, including intelligence systems, but the point is that - a caught intelligence officer, yes, in any state, this is interpreted as a spy, espionage, so here the difference is actually very small.

development activities are an integral part of a more global approach to solving a strategic problem within the framework of the struggle of two systems, well today they say, this is the strategic north, strategic south or strategic west, strategic east, where on the one hand there are the americans and their allies, who are pushing through their interests, regardless of certain necessary things that should be taken into account in...

defending their national interests, yes, ready for cooperation, ready for dialogue, but at the same time, what is connected with taking into account our national interests or the national interests of those very states of the global south or global east, as they say, that means, these are the states that do not want to follow the path imposed on us, here, of course, everything that is connected with this the most enormous, global apparatus of development structures, of course this...

why is this happening, what is the reason for the events that are taking place, and most importantly, who is behind all this, we understand that today we are talking about practically reaching the beginning, it is “we need to tell people, we need to tell, it has already begun, here is the election campaign, yes, there are no deadlines yet, they will be determined according to the constitution, there is no other way in our state, because our state”. lives according to the constitution and in this regard, declared by the head our state, this is the topic that we need to prepare for all these things now, including taking into account the analysis of those events that took place in the twentieth year, again returning, to tell people who is behind all this, it has been proven that at the heart of all those forces that a were in charge then, b are now in charge of those who are just saying, as the president said, to kill them, there are western intelligence agencies, there are ears sticking out from all ends, i think my colleague from the russian federation will confirm this, because these are the same tasks

brave guys decide on the territory of the russian federation, and the main goal is to split society, sow panic, chaos and not having received the result due in 220, today they have moved to the phase of well open - that's such a presentation of their, so-called plan of peromoga already 2:0, and not his, where the basis of the overthrow of power is force. once to deprive the russian federation of another ally, we are talking about the republic of belarus, to sow chaos, including approximately in the same way as they did it with ukraine. i think that the republic of serbia is also faced with something similar pressure. dragan, i know that today, among the european states, there are not so

many of our friends and allies, serbia remains in your person, our friend and partner, for this i am incredibly grateful to you, but i understand that today the west, the western intelligence services, certain agents of influence have the main task of turning serbia around, completely pushing it away from the historical connections of interaction, historical connections in general with the russian federation, with the republic of belarus, i know with what respect your citizens and grateful for the help and support that serbia received from the union state at different times?

you need to hold on, i can't help but say, like this, you know, i willy-nilly became such a spy, an agent, because they called me that in ukraine, and i often say that james bond is resting in comparison with me, they called me the head of the special services of serbian and russian, but it is an honor to be the head of the russian special services, of course, and i expect that now i will say that i also and well besides the fact that i am putin's agent, now i will agent lukashenko, after what i do and visits to... naturally, western intelligence agencies, i hope, i saw that in belarus, firstly, the people are created, secondly, the system works there, it works, i see, i met with many

leaders there, there is patriotism, at such a serious level, i think that it is not so easy, of course. to bribe belarusians there, it is clear that there are always marginals there who are ready to do anything for money, but it is important that the system works and what lukashenko said, he understands, he realizes that is happening, and belarus is really a big threat today, because they want to make it the same as serbia, no, they wanted to make it much worse, because it is clear that it is in their way, the system is in their way, which is a normal country, with a normal life, with a quality education, with a beautiful country. it is organized and so on, and it also has an independent policy, but how is that possible? when i was talking to ordinary belarusians just now, i said: do you understand what i am afraid of, i am afraid that you as belarusians, as a people, do not realize in fact, let's say so, the level of your life, the well-being that you have, because they catch people on this, this should be better, here he is in power for 30 years, and then

they put their own people in and completely lose sovereignty, that is, the country no longer exists, the economy no longer exists. and let's say this way, large international companies come in, close your factories, let people go, that's it, the collapse of the state begins, here belarus, in my opinion, is the only other country that has such freedom, that has no crime, that has no drugs, in schools, that has a concern for its own, for its people, for its country, which has its own products, and all this is a hindrance for western services, so i am very worried, but i expect that... and you will have time, as they say, to defend yourself, but we must fight together against all this. dragon, thank you very much, what you are talking about is taking place , and any revolution, maidan, it does not pass, does not begin, does not end without the participation of one or another special services, yes, about the manipulation of the consciousness of citizens, i think, this is also one of the fairly successful interactions between the press, and

opinion leaders and the special services, which launch this funnel, from which it is extremely difficult for the people to get out. here is its dynamics: here, of course, far from all - operations that were carried out by western special services against and the russian federation of the republic of belarus, all.

a whole commission was formed to investigate interference in the russian federation in the elections to the united states, which was headed by robert mueller in the rank of special prosecutor, this is a former, by the way, director of the fbi, and a person extremely experienced and partly legendary, for 2 years they have been pestering trump, well, you see, the goal was probably achieved, because they destroyed his hands, tied his hands, then ensured his non-reelection in the elections already in 2020.

the system of struggle of this community against the kremlin, do you agree with this, i think it is unlikely, because with snowdan there is a story with a lot of question marks, but these are question marks for us, people who are not immersed in the other side of this story, the fact is that - american the special services did everything so that snowden, when he fled from them, ended up stuck on the territory of the russian federation, well and because. when he was in flight, he was not going to stay in the russian federation, he was going to move on somewhere

towards warm countries, where the climate is milder, where he apparently had some prepared positions, but in the end he got stuck in the transit zone and the fact that the americans cancelled his passport at that very moment causes a very big... another story about an interrupter, that's when a person who is wavering from the point of view of moral and ideological state, that is, or he is offended by someone, as it was with snowd, because his environment offended him, he. could not build relationships with his colleagues, so, apparently, he wanted to take revenge, so when such a person is exposed, it can be found out

that he copies classified information, stoldan did not work for the nsa, but he worked for a company that performed, was a partner of the national security agency, when they expose a person who copies this kind of information, he can be taken and jailed, because, well, he is essentially engaged in espionage. well, but then it is not interesting, because then he will be useless for the game's special services, but you can do it this way, you can stuff him with true information mixed with disinformation, make sure that he really downloaded what was needed, then scare him so that he runs away, when he runs away, taking all this with him, make sure that he gets political asylum i was looking specifically in a country with a specific address, that's a very... similar story with snowden, this does not mean that snowden is a spy, and he played some kind of double-triple game, he is an idealist, you can tell by him, but there are signs

that he was possibly used in the dark, according to that list of those very operations, it is not complete, and there are probably many of these operations, including in relation to the russian federation, the republic of belarus, it is quite wide , much wider, and... the question is, why is that? yes, because since the time we declared their national interests, that we would defend them, the number of these operations increased many times, by the way, they never stopped, this cold war, which essentially began after the end of the second world war, the great patriotic war, we remember when germany was divided, yes, the western sector, there are the americans, the british, the french, on the other side the gdr, and from there this global struggle began. systems, this is the cia, this is west german intelligence, the ussr, on the other hand, and this struggle does not stop, and

today it is only growing. to the question - that, uh, what we must do, of course, is to explain to people, by the way, what the state security committee is doing, including, widely covering all those issues that are connected with espionage, with espionage in relations with our state, and here our people must clearly understand that - none of those who can be recruited under any pretext are of any interest to western states, western intelligence services, they are... expendable material that in a certain period it will be activated, used, then it will simply be forgotten, no one will ever pay attention to it , when there is a goal before certain circles, yes, political, or those who work in conjunction with the special services, to destroy this or that politician, absolutely all possible resources are connected, including the media of this or that politician who opposes

the mainstream agenda, and sounding...

the most serious preparation for your presidential elections, which are coming up next year, that provocations are already being prepared, people are preparing, ways are being sought, and how to make these elections, let's say, undemocratic elections, that everything is bought there, everything is sold out, that lukashenko is in power there, this and that, they will also elect some new woman president, something else, that is, you understand, provocations are being seriously prepared. but what i like, for example, belarus has it, it is an open country in that it has a visa-free regime, there, well, i just came with colleagues, they just naturally in shock, they traveled all over europe, you know, the best way to show what belarus is is when he sees how beautiful it is, how it is made, how all these city services work there, how it all functions and so on, this best of all breaks their myths, that is, their myths, that is, their media.

the doors are open, please, this is, it seems to me, the strength of the current policy of the republic of belarus, we do not tell dry historical facts, we immerse ourselves in the era, our ivev tatars still remember the grand duke vitovt when they pray. because he appreciated them as great warriors and invited them here to our lands so that they would help him fight, to say that it is comfortable, no, but i feel more confident, yes, more protected, it is true, artifacts with a century-old history, a real puzzle for us, as time travelers, this is one of the oldest items that we have in our collection, this is

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films that will certainly become your favorites, this and much more awaits you in the efir 24 on 7 project, watch on the tv channel: let me remind you, the sas program is authorized to declare on air. the topic of our program today: new cold war clash of intelligence agencies. well, i want to draw your attention to an extremely interesting material, cia director bill burns and mi6 head richard moore expressed concern. about the unprecedented threats facing the us and uk, especially from russia and china, and it is noteworthy that the heads of intelligence agencies spoke about this for the first time in history in a joint article for the british newspaper financial times.

we will tell you the details of this interview in our story, watch together. the heads of the cia and mi6 accused russia and china are under unprecedented threat. burns and moore spoke to journalists from the financial times. the article was devoted to the world order. to shake, which moscow and beijing are allegedly trying to. the head of the british foreign intelligence service mi6, richard moore, and his overseas colleague, cia director william burns, believe that the world - quote, is under threat, which humanity has not seen since the cold war, especially often these threats are faced by the united states and great britain. today we cooperate in complete contradiction to the international system, where our two countries are facing an unprecedented set of threats, the publication of the intelligence chiefs says. and moore emphasized that their services are working together to confront russia, trying to prevent the activities that, in their opinion, russian intelligence services are allegedly carrying out in europe and are directing significant resources to this end. such opinions have already been voiced more than once in the west,

and recently they have become increasingly common, as ideas about a direct armed conflict between nato and russia. the kremlin's position is unchanged: russia does not threaten anyone, but will not leave anyone without attention to actions potentially dangerous to its interests, here on... creates tension. moscow records unprecedented activity of the alliance near the state's borders. moscow is open to dialogue with nato, but on an equal basis, the russian foreign ministry said. they also called on the alliance countries to abandon the course of militarization of the continent. by the way, not only russia ended up on the western list of threats. china is also considered a potential adversary. burns and moore call it the main geopolitical challenge of the 21st century. although beijing itself has repeatedly called on the west to stop to inflate the imaginary chinese threat. and joining our broadcast right now is an american journalist, an expert in the study of western disinformation, john varoli. john, welcome. good afternoon, thank you for the invitation. john, we are talking about the recent

interview of the cia director, mr. burns, and the head of mi6, richard moore. and in my opinion, there is a certain sphere of activity that does not provide for such. an obvious presence in the media does not provide for public activity, please tell me, in your opinion, i think, you are familiar with this material, you have studied it, what is the main goal of this public appearance of the heads of the special services in great britain, the usa. if you remember, maybe, 4 years ago, the former head, mr. pompeo, he said, one of our main tasks. this is a gate, this is to mislead, this is disinformation, he said this in front of his people, and as vladimir putin said, the west is an empire of lies, and indeed, as a person who

lives in america, i see how everything here is permeated with lies, every day, my whole day i see lies, our entire society is built on lies, and therefore when the head of the central election commission and the head of the 6th central election commission speak, you really have to think, not just what they want to say, you just have to think how they lie, why they are lying, what they want to achieve, everything is really very good, this is a good speech. events are planned, but disinformation, they want to show the world something that is really not true, what is, for example, that there is a threat, there is a threat everywhere, us, poor america, great britain, we are threatened, terrible china, terrible russia, i wonder, i wanted to ask them, russian troops, chinese troops, are they on the us border, are they in mexico, are they in canada, are they threatening the us, no, they are not threatening, american troops.

was once the most closed in the world, the most secret until the mid-sixties

of the last century, great britain generally denied the existence of such a unit in the mfa system, well, it is not there, and never was, and for the cia, which has the same traditions, approximately close and there worked and work a sufficient number of professionals who understand like our father, the rules that intelligence activities are silence, they do not tolerate publicity, and therefore, here is a completely surprising situation, because never before have the heads of intelligence agencies spoken out, let's first give an interview to a newspaper, and then literally a day or two later, and they both did the same thing publicly at the financial times festival, i think that the reason here is very simple, uh, something is not going right for them now. either mi6, or the cia, or both intelligence agencies, because it is obvious that

even against the backdrop of the ongoing conflict on ukraine, none of these special services demonstrate effective work, that is, there are no results that could influence the course of this conflict, although they are all bustling about, they are all involved, they are spending budgets, and the performance of these two people is very similar to the situation when one has screwed up... the second supports him, here they are standing and saying that no, we are together, we are shoulder to shoulder fighting this russian threat, and we continue to fight, i think that there is some kind of, apparently, some kind of scandal in them now is unfolding about whether to finance the activities of mi6 or ceru, such scandals arise constantly, should their budget be cut, you know, we have prepared a short reference about richard moore. about the head of mi6. attention to the screen. richard moore, head of

the british secret intelligence service mi6. has headed the department since 2020. before that, he worked in many asian countries, and held the post of british ambassador to turkey. the worst enemy of the allied state publicly called on russians to work for the british special services promised security to traitors. john, i know you are limited in time, so my last question to you. today we recalled the key spy. murom in london and for many residents of ukraine, including for everyone , the fate of the country is not indifferent, who follow the chronology of certain events , the turn that took place in ukraine, this was a radical turn of kiev's course and that is ...

at least, they have it there, deep roots there, and close ties, they know each other well, and i have been with them for a long time a goal has been set, but the goal is to put russia, and belarus on its knees, but then there was the soviet union, and therefore they simply continue this work, which has been going on, well, it turns out for almost 80

years, and here therefore it is not surprising that when such an inexperienced, stupid president came to power, and... quickly, they quickly put him on his knees and said: "here, sir, comedian, actor, now we have a very good role for you, you will play, like a great president, a ukrainian nationalist, and you will wage war against russia, win russia, because we told you so, i remember that time very well, because in 1918, 19 i was often in kiev and i remember it

yesterday, but after yesterday, she showed herself a real person who can be president, and the second point, the democratic party of liberals, well, they are not leaving the white house, just peacefully, they are not leaving, they, they want to stay, they will stay in the white house, they control all of our federal power, and they control wall

street, the world of finance, they control large media, these are large technology companies, all the speeches of power are in the hands of liberals, well... from the democratic party of the olgarks, well, you can call them the deep state or the olgarks, it's all the same, and therefore these people remain in power, they will continue this liberal radical liberal policy, but it is clear that trump's supporters will be very unhappy, maybe they will raise a popular rebellion, maybe we'll see after november what will happen, yes, i think, i don't think that they will be quiet, they will not be quiet they are leaving, and donald trump will most likely either be physically removed forever. or he will be put in prison, he is a very dangerous person for our elite, it is clear that when donald trump is no longer there, that's it, america will really be a totalitarian country, but this totalitarian system has been under construction for more than 10 years, that's all, we are now seeing the last stage of the construction of a totalitarian state in the usa.

john's participation in the program is always a great joy for me. and you know, john answered the question regarding. and what hooks, on which could have fallen into, are there any hooks that zelensky could have fallen into, i remember a phrase, and from the movie the devil's advocate, cheslavie is my favorite threshold, and it seems to me that in the case of zelensky this is what played a role, because at some point a person engaged in a as a humorous activity, still with certain complexes was not sure how seriously the ukrainian society as a whole would perceive the world, so it seems to me that when he imagined himself, you know, like this...

he was called to the carpet, he went to report as an agent in front of his officers, agents, because, perhaps, moore also said that he does not have time to come to ukraine to meet with zelensky there, so let's do the holy thing, drag the whole president. ukraine to support him in the reception room in order to show who he is, compared to british intelligence, british officials, who have a hundred-year tradition there, it very well introduces - to the tone, and well, as for moore himself , this very interview, somehow moore does not look very much like a career intelligence officer, at the same time he looks more like a career diplomat, it's not for nothing that he was ambassador to turkey, and after

they may not have seen a live agent before they became heads of their departments. and what happens when incompetent people become leaders, but they first imitate, and then , having become completely confused in the intelligence work that they do not understand, they switch to the area that they are most proficient in, that is, to chatter, and now we see this in the face of this interview and speeches at the financial times festival,

which they set for themselves in their strategic documents, because they voiced what is embedded in their strategy, where

they and the british americans clearly spelled out the main rival and threat to national interests and great britain, the usa, china, first of all, and of course the russian federation, and those things that are happening in the world today, including from the point of view of the involvement. continent, and how to solve them if you have the most powerful competitors, china, russia, together with belarus, who defend their

national interests, and there is only one way out - to sow chaos, everyone understands that to start a war with a state possessing nuclear weapons, by the way, they already exist in the republic of belarus, it is like death then there will simply be a desert, and here we must understand that today ukraine, which for many years was stuffed with foreign agents, special services, americans, great britain. it was correctly said, zelensky does not govern, when there was still a whole galaxy of leaders who were inclined towards the west, they were brought to today's strategic project taran against russia, both political and military, strategic tasks are being solved there not for the ukrainians, the americans, china - this is to play the taiwan card, russia and belarus - this is destabilization of the situation, where this whole mechanism that i spoke about, all these groups of intelligence communities, they will solve one strategic... dacha, and, as they said, in the next century, that is, we must understand that we must, as the head of state said again,

be ready for this, this is a prospect, and, to unfortunately, not very good. suddenly a major scandal broke out, for the first time in the history of belarus, a japanese spy was detained in the country, we will tell the details of this operation in our story. an agent of the japanese special services was detained in belarus in early september. he was collecting information about the socio-political situation in the country, the implementation of the one belt one road initiative, photographed and videotaped military infrastructure, and also transmitted data on what was happening on the belarusian-ukrainian border. the spy worked under the guise of an entrepreneur. in fact, open. the firm existed solely on paper. now he has repented of his actions and admitted that his actions could have been dangerous for belarus. in connection with the incident , the japanese ambassador was summoned to the belarusian foreign ministry. a protest was filed against him due to the activities of a spy from that country. yes, andrei viktorovich, i think we once again confirm that western intelligence agencies are actively working in conjunction with other allied states, and

the republic of belarus is especially aware of this on the eve of the elections. i think you will agree with this. yes, of course. this is a very interesting example, incident, because it seems that the activity of japanese special services on the territory of belarus has not been previously noticed, it is very interesting to know, this same japanese man was carrying out a mission, which of the japanese intelligence services, because japan has two national intelligence services, here in the russian federation we have one - this is the foreign intelligence service, and they have two, and these two intelligence services, they are full-fledged, that is, this is specially... a department within the office of the prime minister and therefore a research department within the ministry of foreign affairs, they compete among themselves, who exactly sent this person, who really got itchy, but again, even if such special services as the japanese one, which is up to belarus, well, what business do they have, belarus is far

from japan, and japan is far from belarus. even if they have become more active, then this is a certain marker, saying that most likely all western special services have come into motion, the upcoming elections are certainly a catalyst for this. yes, ruslan anatorich, how did you take this news? japan is whose ally and strategic partner, by the way, the intelligence service in japan was organized, built on the model of the american special services, and here it is clear, and the chinese interests, which here can and should be. they had to track, and of course, the so-called outsourcing in the interests of american intelligence for us, for the russian federation and the republic of belarus, the conclusion is unambiguous that any state, even territorially located somewhere far away, eh, if it solves problems together with the united states of america, this does not mean that it will not carry out against us some non-hostile, they

will definitely solve problems, including, this... this is exactly what will help them in the future, we are no longer talking about the implementation of their nuclear doctrine there, although this is also such a separate issue, deserving attention given the hysteria that is happening today, dropot such and such a plan was still during the great patriotic war, after the great patriotic

war, the second world war to destroy the soviet union, today there is a very serious concept, developed the us department of defense, this is a global rapid strike, this is in 60 minutes, creating the shortest possible time grouping, using the one that is already deployed, including in european countries, then the aviation component there for up to two or three days, aviation strike groups are aircraft carriers, everything that concerns up to 4-5 days, within 60 minutes to any point.

independence, everything that concerns, uh, mission accomplished, this thirty-two-minute film, everyone should watch it carefully, include it in the school curriculum and work, especially with young people, which anyway... will one day stand at the helm of our state, at what price did we get today's peace and stability, then it will become clear why we need to protect it, why we need to fight against all manifestations, including the intelligence component. i want to thank all the participants of today's extremely interesting and extensive discussion, because the topic is so voluminous, i hope that we will have another opportunity to meet after a certain time and discuss those details that we missed today, and the topic itself... it is not that in hints and reservations today sounded almost more important than in the main remarks of the guests, when it comes to the games of the special services, it is most naive to believe someone who will assert, now i

will explain everything honestly and simply. and i will finish the program with such a wise life observation. happiness is not a life without worries and sorrows, happiness is a state of mind. and do you know who the author is? tolstoy, dostoevsky? no, felix edmundovich dzerzhinsky, the founding father of the modern special services of the union state. the world and the people in it are more interesting than you think. thank you, this there was a program saz authorized to declare, see you in a week. western intelligence agencies, among the main instigators of war in ukraine. and did you know that in the kobrin district you can find not only delicious cheeses, but also an exotic for belarus, culture of arteshok. we are in one of the fields where

an experiment is being conducted on such a culture as arteshok. as experience has shown, the belarusian land is ready to accept any experiments, the seed and a lot of work are important. passion for agriculture in a real dream farm, we grow vegetables for the body and we also develop our territory for the soul, so i think that this is true

love for the homeland, for the people, for the people, watch on friday on our tv channel.