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hello, real belarusians, my name is alexander osenko, and today, as usual, we will reveal the recipe for the life of one of us. our guest is the director of the republican scientific and practical center of oncology and radiology, sergey lvovich polikov. i will go meet the guests. hello, sergey lvoevich. hello sanovich. i am very glad that you came to visit us today.

thank you, even with your own preparations, i think it will be unexpected for you, we will keep this little secret, here is our improvised kitchen, a wonderful place, yes, the place and the weather are good today, so, what do we have, we will cook two dishes, so one of them will be meat, this is and the meat will be rabbit ribs, so all the recipes are from ivanych, this is my very close friend, who... comes up with, invents, it will be beans, well, something like lobio, then fried, stewed with onions, rabbit ribs, which we will eat separately, so we'll put this in the fridge for now, we'll put this in the fridge for now, yes, let's start with beans, so let's start with beans, so good, but first our signature apron, maybe that's why i came here, sergey levovich, yes, i read one of your interviews? and you

admitted there that you missed kitchen conversations, maybe today we'll just remove this nostalgia of yours, everything that makes us nostalgic is, of course, the times of youth, when your student years, when you become like, you're not quite yet grew up, but you are already independent, you have some kind of maximalism and the kitchen, there was that place, well, where students, and not only students, gathered to talk about something.

i'll do the grill, yes, and you do everything else, so, here you go, our wonderful kitchen, sergey lvovich, i have a question, you said. did you smoke in your youth, well no, i smoked, how can i tell you, i'll reveal it, so it's a secret, i traveled for many years, being a student at the minsk medical institute, all the years i studied, i went to construction teams, the first year it was in belarus to the lyuban state farm, not far from naroch, and then i went to western siberia, in the construction teams every 2 hours there had to be... a smoke break, well, whoever doesn't smoke, works, therefore, and what did they build, oh, in siberia they built everything, starting from roads, houses, in nizhnevartovsk, for example, we built at that time, probably the first green stadium in

the city, because the whole city was built on permafrost, on such soils that are swampy on loose, and we built a school in which we lived, made a stadium of my... we landscaped with a drainage system, therefore, well, quite a lot of things had to be done, i even alone i worked as a welder for a year and welded a frame for the foundation of a five-story building, so you already have a lot of experience as a builder, but i stopped it, now, although construction has come to the medical field, there were very strong construction teams at the medical institute, that is , doctors in different construction teams, you could go to any construction team in the country. that's exactly how construction, there was a competition, you had to pass certain tests to pass, which ones, these were subbotniks where, for example, you had to, we all that there in the southwest in the volgograd area there was, i don’t know, it’s still there, no, this supermarket,

there was a field there, which we planted for example, with trees, this, that is, this, well , it was like the work was exhausting, you had to endure it there constantly digging some holes. on the territory of belarus it was and he met the war here and went through the whole war, starting then there were military doctors, a military doctor already somewhere, probably, in my opinion, from forty-third year, yes, these are field hospitals, he has three military orders, the order of the red star and two

orders of the patriotic war, there the first in degrees, so he finished the war after the liberation of the belarusian operation vitebsk he... participation in the liberation of vitebsk, their army, then kineksberg finished the war already in transbaikalia, the war with japan, that is, this is what he has, and then he worked as a doctor, an oringologist, i was still a student, he was already retired, but he continued to work in gomel in the tupdispensary as an oringologist, every month he helped me financially, so i can admit that part of my scholarship was what my grandfather always gave me here... not dressed by parents, well then somehow yes, and why did all the boys want to be surgeons, who, as it were, when they entered the institute of romantics, and oncologists? well, at that time i know, you know, earlier oncology, it was already like a sentence, well, it was scary,

why? because from ignorance, when you don’t know something, then of course you are afraid of it, so we need to cut onions with you, probably, we want to put it on each other, i understand. but we’ll have to, yes, that means, i generally, when i was studying, we had a subordination, this sixth year, i had a course in urology, i wanted to be a urologist, and i did become a urologist, really, that is, then i had an internship after finishing surgery in gomel, gomel regional hospital, i was assigned to gomel, since my parents were from there, and then... after i finished my internship, there was no place for a urologist anywhere, and there was the only place in the gomel regional oncology dispensary, a department was opening there, it didn’t exist yet, an oncourology department, and i absolutely they said it right, i was going to work on the first

day, i looked at the people i saw there, and i thought that they would all die tomorrow, that is, fear was present, we were taught oncology, maybe i don’t remember there was a week or... 2 weeks, that is, well, we really knew a little, in the dispensary you don’t work as a urologist, but you work normally, this is normal, yes, you work exactly, well, as an onologist in... the whole thing, you encounter everything, you help, that is, operate and other colleagues of yours, then after working for 2 years, i really wanted to return to minsk, love, as if here, yes, as if friends, all youth, kvn, all this was somehow stormy, 3 years i had a year of internship, 2 years in gomel, and i entered the clinical residency at the onca center, then it was on...

that the view has changed, firstly, people's attitude to all this has changed, that is, but this is thanks to doctors, of course, the majority, after all, in the majority i see healing, that is, many people, they are healed, leave, forget about this disease, live a normal life, unfortunately, of course, there are also those who can no longer be helped it is impossible, but at least, even if it is impossible to cure a person, then well, try to prolong his life as much as possible, in some cases , transfer. some kind of, well, maybe a chronic condition, if i may say so, of course, thank god,

we are able to diagnose there education - this is no longer a sentence, no, this is not a sentence, a malignant tumor is not a sentence, and this is frightening, this is very frightening for many, but we are still trying somehow for 30 years in belarus, that's how you would characterize this leap in development, this has already been said many times said, but i will repeat once again, the most important thing that we managed, we managed - to preserve what was there and develop it thanks to new technologies, new medicines, to raise it to another level. in the soviet union , oncology existed, it was a separate, separate direction in medicine, that is, we had oncology centers, oncology dispensaries, inter-district dispensaries, oncologists on the ground, these are people who were engaged in treatment and observation, medical examination.

melted butter, on melted butter, on ghee, the difference between ghee and butter is that it doesn't have water, it doesn't have lactose, which many people don't bring, it doesn't burn when you cook on it, it doesn't shoot, well, of course, it could shoot, if it were some kind of, but in general, that is, you cook on it and somehow everything turns out more aromatic, and garlic, yes, garlic, yes, yes, yes, we clean it, uh, crush it a little, cut it a little, and i realized, yeah, we... talked about the topic of diagnostics and screening with dmitry evgenievich, we talked about the fact that in

belarus this is very developed, and that recommend to our viewers, because many are really afraid to go to the doctor, our task is to find, to detect the disease at an early stage or at a precancerous stage, if i may say so, in this situation, naturally screening of some diseases, it is the best way to...

in this situation, proven screenings that have shown their effectiveness are breast cancer screening, when women at a certain age undergo mammography, this is screening for cervical cancer , this is screening for colorectal cancer, which, if you combine men and women, now probably ranks first, not

only in our country, but in the world in general, screening of the uh... gland here for men of a certain age, well, basically it's over 50 years old, this is the determination of prostate-specific antigen, that is , the methods that we use in screening, they should be quite simple, relatively, of course, easily accessible and effective, that's what i listed for you - this is what has already been proven, what has shown its effectiveness, lung cancer screening there it's a bit more complicated, but these scientific programs are also underway, including ours, having started some of these programs with... screening, we have received certain results in the country, but unfortunately, it is very difficult to involve the entire population, a decision was made to include screening programs in the medical examination program, so let's, yes, we need to add, probably, let's, yeah, what

else will we need later, i think this is enough, now we'll put it here. mushrooms too, we'll immediately add mushrooms, yes, it should fit, and of course, if we identify some, let's say for the prostate gland, this is detection at an early stage, for breast cancer, this is also detection at a stage, for example, for cervical cancer, you can also detect a precancerous condition, in general, for the cervix, there is now a very large enough.

and there is no one pill to cure, briefly, briefly, no, in any case, you talk to the patient, of course, yes, people become less scared, calmer, you understand, what is the biggest trophy, and you know everything, i see, but there is no

such thing, you know, excuse me, maybe for my unprofessionalism, i will say a common opinion, this is some kind of everyone will say thank you, the answer is complex and simple, i can draw an analogy, remember, the period of covid, the vaccine was created, yes, yes, a year later another vaccine was needed, another vaccine, six months later another one, and you practice, in connection with yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, this, that is, you combine both

administrative and yes, of course, not as often as before, and why did you keep the practice for yourself? we create combined there complex teams from another center, from the center oleg grigorovich rumo or from the cardiology center, when you need to accept some, well, take on some... responsibility in this, but where is responsibility accepted easier, at the operating table, or in the office in the chair, well , these are different things, i will tell you this, that in general

, the work of a surgeon is constant decision-making, everything that you do in the operating room, you make some decision every moment, even if you do it almost automatically, well, almost, let's say some moments, you still have to make a decision, to do exactly yes, exactly this and as if the skill of a surgeon is demonstrated in many cases, not in some standard situations, when the situation is non-standard, but decision-making in the office, as you say, well, it's not easy there either, firstly, well, the team is people, it's the republican scientific and practical center, yes, it's 2.0 people in essence, that is, it's like a good plant, and also why, i 'll tell you honestly, maybe you shouldn't say that, but i admit, sometimes you go to the operating room to rest, because that is, you rest. not in all operations of course, but well, i mean here are motor skills, motor skills, yes, a change of activity and of course, here is constant this office work, it is tiring, this is this is really hard, this is a lot of people

with whom you have to communicate, this is solving some problems not only related to medicine, this is finance, economics, and construction, toilets, everything, everything you want, well, it still remains, but in education - this is something, in any case, you talk to the patient, of course, and i understand this, as ... well 95 problems that arise with the fact that people there are unhappy with something, they complain, they they write appeals, they simply didn't finish talking with people, well, they just didn't finish something somewhere or didn't pay attention at all, or said it rudely. said: tired, yes, the work is hard, there, well, it seems like i neglected it, there you can cure thousands of people, but on

one, well, on this omission a person will stumble for the rest of his life , here is the opinion that this is bad, to treat him, yes, yes, of course, you need to communicate with people, people, people, people become less afraid, calmer, you understand, when a person tell people, you need to communicate everywhere, everywhere, absolutely right. honor those years i played volleyball, now it's a hall, a regular hall, i have a group of like-minded people, these are people of absolutely different

specialties, professions, types of activities, well, somehow we got together such a company, approximately all of the same age, i probably even may be the oldest there, and we regularly go to the gym with a trainer, i probably sound harsh, we lift iron, but that's all. supervision all according to some programs and i kind of got carried away with it, sometimes i go to, well, boxing, boxing with a punching bag, but it's more like cardio, to the gym, so i got into it, at first i forced myself, then i got into it and i really enjoy it and the second thing is hunting, not long ago i became a hunter, but i hunt... i try, it doesn't always work out, but i try more or less regularly, a drive or just a walk with the dog? no, a walk with the dog, i don't have a dog, i live, i live

in an apartment, so mostly not with an approach, why else hunting, of course, with an approach with yegor, yes, only with one eger, different, but - in one place, well, to have a heart-to-heart talk, oh, what are you talking about, this is a close friend, animals, the third one with a little secret, we don’t open it completely, we drain it. now we open it, take a masher, our task, oh, so, so, maybe let’s put it in some bowl, here in this one. well, it’s like we

’re hunting with you, we have a flatter area - it’s a luxury, i always have a metal masher with me, okay, and now we have to mash it, and where did you learn this dish, you say from ivanovich, yes ivanovich is secret, ivanovich, no, not a hunter, what is the most a big trophy, or such a memorable one, there was an interesting case when... a deer during the rutting season, already old, it was obvious that he was old, a lot of knots, well, the antlers were just fantastic, and he was standing quite far away, and my friend and i, who has been a hunter for many years, were together shooting at the same time, we agreed that we really wanted to get this deer, we approached for a long time, waited for a long time, because

it was just... we were looking for a goat and in the evening, not yet night , a wolf came out and i hit him exactly, but he left and the forest is very dense and so we did not find him, because even a wounded wolf, he can walk for a very long time, the wolf is a very smart animal, so a spoon, and yes, that's all, let's have some hops. so nuts yes for us it's

a walnut 100 g crushed crushed nut and this is what we have something like salsa it's a hot pepper hot well you don't need much that is , it turns out to be a paste we put it on cover it with a lid for about 10 minutes at this time i want to offer you your youth youth we have a very large area someone is chopping wood someone is on someone is jumping rope, knitting, maybe volleyball? tempter, well, remember your youth, your hands will remember, oh, thank you, thank you.

in childhood, you were a hooligan, construction sites, jumping into the sand from the second floor, a place of power, i got there as an adult, well, it was cool there, they offered to go abroad to work, you have to be born and live in the country, what do we have there, cilantro, cilantro, we are left with cilantro, cilantro, so how do we chop it, yes-yes-yes, chop it, finely, finely, great finely? super, main fingers, that's it, wow, how are we here, yes, we remembered our youth, yes, and you said, hands remember, yes, by the way, that's also true, they keep asking, and how much do you need to avoid surgery, to forget everything, it's impossible, on the wings for another 2 minutes, sergey, haven't you thought about what, your own home? yes, i wanted to

be in the village, work with people, you want to be alone, to be alone, yes, in silence, in silence, probably, but at the dacha it doesn't always work out, although here they chose a big village or such a nondescript one, in the minsk region there are no nondescript trees, you know, i'll give you an example, i'm registered in the braslovsky district in a village in which 10 yards, i have. this is the braslovsky district, this is vitebsk, and this is still within the braslovsky district, believe me, you still have to try to find a village or a khotorog on the outskirts, maybe this village is big, but like this place itself, which i liked, there was once someone's house there, we eventually bought it, it was so dilapidated, we rent everything, how beautiful, it ...

it turns out, there is the next village further on, but the place itself is on a hill, and you are like far away, well, like 150 meters from the general road, usually in villages like a road along, and there is a road, a farmer's field, another one, and a hill somewhere decent, you stand and like you have this whole area, it is so hilly, somewhere there is an apiary, somewhere and i stood with... said here, so we leave it here for now like this, so yes, so now i start everything, i put firewood under the cauldron, yes there is onion, garlic, your treat, and i am busy

with the grill, so the house is already standing, yes the house is standing, well, as a professional, you know that to put a cow, this is, you already think, already that's it, there are no windows. there is a roof, of course, it's already covered, but then the most interesting part begins, light, water, heat, finishing, and how will you heat it, stoves or electric, electric, yes, but of course there will be some kind of fireplace, in fact, very preferential prices, so these are our ribs, this is a rabbit, yes, this is a rabbit, as a child we were a hooligan, i was a yard boy, that is, i had everything football, roofs, some construction sites. construction is oh how yes, these are generally construction sites, jumping into the sand from the second floor, hiking in search of some kind of i don't know treasures well that is it was a normal street soviet childhood soviet our viewers and

those who were born in the ussr should understand us we will cook on melted butter we do not regret where we will start we will start with garlic we will throw it in. we will fry it and then take it out so that it does not give bitterness, so i understand, we will fry, yes rabbit, first we need to fry these ribs so that they are covered with a small baked, a place of power, hunting, a plot, apartments or something else is, you are also a deputy of the regional, yes council of deputies, this constantly people, people, people, people, well... you know, this is probably the place where i go hunting, well, periodically, let's say, you go to different places, thanks, by the way, to hunting, i really looked at our country, these places, where asveya, probably

there, yes, vitebsk region, after all, here there is also this moment of the hill of this endless lake, the second largest lake, well, everything is there, everything, although. enough, let's offer to go abroad to work, i did an internship, i did an internship in germany in teln for 3 months, i i lived there without knowing german, i

can, let's say, use english quite well in my life, so give me some milk, here i am, you see... i did an internship at a university clinic in the urology department with very wonderful people and we still have very good, warm relations, by the way, after that internship , the professor with whom we became friends there, he came to minsk with his whole family, and of course he discovered belarus for himself, that is , they, that is, they didn't even imagine how beautiful, great, interesting everything is here. and he told me, yes, it was in 2005, he then said to me: sergey, with your capabilities, i’ll just learn german, but here too, everything was going well for me in terms of professionalism, i

was already the head of the department, and secondly, after all, when you live in the country, that is , not just come there as a tourist, when even for 3 months, well, you understand the difference. mentality, some kind of difference, that is, you know, there is such a thing, i’ve already said this more than once, it’s a well-known phrase, yes, to leave - it's a little bit to die, probably, some material moments would be better there, probably. i don't know, but the soul, but the soul, here is the kitchen that we talked about, here is this communication, people, well for me it would be, that is, even here is the apartment that you are used to, neighbors, probably, after all, the country needs to be born and live, at what age did you defend your candidate's dissertation, oh, candidate's dissertation, i don't remember anymore, in ninety-eighth, i think, i came to work at the republican scientific and practical center, here then it was i say, no, that is, working, it was itself understanding. imagine that you will not be doing science, i now,

when young people come, i want to work for you, i immediately say that you will write, do science, write a dissertation, write articles, well, almost everyone says, yes i will, but it is not so simple, what do you do with the young generation that comes to you, the young generation is positively invited to us by our state... medical university was the chairman of the degence commission for state exams for graduates of the medical faculty to our center people below 9 with an average score do not come, that is, if i am a person comes, he should already be used to studying, he understands where he is going, of course, to immediately get into the rspc, well, this is, well, this is too cool. if i may say so, you can work somewhere else, but

there are people who get in right away, they do an internship with us and stay, i was when, well, within the framework of my deputyship, let's say, i traveled to some settlements, in one of the settlements i they go straight to our schwab, go to our shfap, and there was a nurse, she moved from minsk, this is a person in love, in general there... she buys everything with her own money there watches, there and something else, well, some jewelry, there some entertainment for children, toys, there is not a fap, there is candy, it is precisely at such soulful fap that they know how to talk to people, as you said, a grandmother or grandfather comes, they come more so that someone can talk to them, especially when they are lonely, very unique people work there, so everything throw it in here, a little pepper and salt,

that's enough, probably any seasoning is possible, but we have the measure we managed, why not use it, super, onion on top, stew, then stir, cover again, well what? 15-20 minutes have passed, everything is ready, yes, we had a very heartfelt talk and let's see what we have here, wow, beauty , wow, a good rabbit, i suggest we taste it all on plates later, so, so, well, we have to leave something for our colleagues, as i understand it, of course, you understand, here they are all standing, also ready. and look how

beautiful, without leaving the grill we will try, so we try beans, sergey levovich, amazing, thank you very much for what is needed, the gifted recipe, it was very tasty according to tradition.

life from our guest, a real belarusian sergey lvovich polyakov, well now according to our tradition, sergey, invite the whole team, because forks, spoons are already at the ready. dear hosts.

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