tv [untitled] BELARUSTV September 23, 2024 12:55pm-1:45pm MSK
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hungary, like slovakia, these countries are now in many ways, well, such dark horses for the eec and the usa. well, and for our viewer, the political course of these countries, it is in many ways questionable. well, we will talk about this today. well, let's talk about you for now. you are a serbian politician, a representative of the right-wing populist party "we are the voice of the people". yes. and how did you become a politician from a businessman and, most importantly, why?
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i created this first serbian organization, because i was advised to create, he says, a serbian organization, so that there would be no such problems, that is, a serbian national diaspora, in fact, yes, in fact, we must understand that in ukraine the serbian diaspora is the oldest, that is, there is serbia and the new serbia, this is the area, that is, now donbass and the area of dnepropetrovsk, kirovograd - this is, this is, let's say, the area where the serbs were the first, this is during the time of catherine, they were soldiers there at first.
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then they were given land, to marry and so on, that is, these are the first settlements, actually, therefore our diaspora is the oldest there, but i created this structure precisely in order to it was possible to convey this truth about what was happening in yugoslavia then, and accordingly it turns out that when i created it, a wave had already started, the media, interviews and so on, then i already after, i think, 3-4 years already created the eurasian, that is, the first...
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the us baton, it is clear that this is the us army, which is covered only by european countries, but they are 95% nato troops , yes, but the command and decisions are made in washington, but definitely not in europe, therefore, and that is, they showed that not only that what they said, they called the murder of children there in hospitals, the destruction of bridges, infrastructure, trains and so on, merciful angel, that is, they apparently have these merciful missiles, though, if they had... done it on their heads, how would it sound, and
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that is, this is cynicism, today we have the result when we say that it is not just that milosevics want to overthrow, then he said: they do not beat serbia because of milosevic, but milosevic for the sake of serbia, this turned out to be true in the end, and that is, they took us to kosovo and metohija, after so many years, they now they demand from serbia, in order for us to go further into the european union, to recognize the sovereignty of our territory, that is, kosovo and metohija - these are 1800 orthodox monuments. this is the orthodox and christian culture of the whole world in general, not only the serbs, and the albanians who are there, they did not live there, that is, there were 200,000 of them there, as a result , more than half a million of them came there from albania, and with our support, it is clear that they were mainly engaged in crime, that is, weapons, drugs, all over europe, all europeans know this when they communicate with politicians from europe, they say, we know all this, but they know everything, but say nothing, and accordingly, it turns out, they committed aggression against an independent state in order to
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take part of the territory, they put their nato base there and now they demand that we admit it, that is, here you go, all this was tested on us, that is, first we had a color revolution. exactly the same, that is, this was a copy, i, yes, i took this photo, i say, look, here in belgrade 2000, look, i say 2004, okay, and what about today, you can say our viewers, some of whom still think that this is all different, this is
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what it is like to be under bombs, under the bombs of democracy, that's exactly it, you understand, when they say now, when this started with ukraine, it is clear that there are friends there. because they think that i am an enemy and that serbia is an enemy, they cannot understand, i warned them back in 2008, 2010, that what they are doing is banning the russian language in schools, my children even went there in russian, suddenly ukrainian, which no one knew, everything, everything, that they launched this project, that it would lead to the collapse of the state, to war, civil war, in fact it was a civil war, the fourteenth year, there is no other way to call it, and for them it was like, you know, a bad example, that is... the project was being implemented, i interfered as such, so that, because i am a neutral person, that is, i live in ukraine, that is, what do i have to do there , that is, i said how it was happening with us, it turns out that when they started bombing us, they did not choose then, as the russian federation is doing now, that is, there somewhere at the front, they weren't at the front,
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i'm saying that this isn't because you're on the channel, this is just a fact, this is true, the only thing i don't know is whether belarusians know how much serbia loves belarusians, this is still a mystery to me, i don't know, most likely, most likely they don't know, and what crazy support for any action belarus, the belarusian people, especially
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when lukashenko arrived then, i remember that scene then, i also came then, milosevic invited me, i organized various rallies, protests there, when i saw him when... people said, imagine the only president in the world who was even russian then, you remember all this kozirevshchina and so on, that lukashenko since then , he was one of us, he was not afraid, he came there, they asked him, well, aren't you afraid and so on, well, what will be, will be, you understand, that the serbian people still feel a debt to him, including to belarus, the belarusian people, but his action, it confirmed precisely this love, this is my initiative, that i am now belarusian, that... i identify these relations, this is all gratitude to him, and indeed, and he is one of the leaders, if not the most, even our president does not have such support as there is lukashenko, that is, even those who do not like vucic, love lukashenko, you understand, because those who know, firstly, we have
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love independent politics, that's what you do, peaceful politics - that's what you do, again an ally who is not ready to betray, that is, your president recently said what? in an interview, we will not let russia hit from the side, but we also understand that their task is to kill more ukrainians, russians, belarusians, that is, how rationally he speaks, and he always, how many peaceful initiatives. that you take a risk if you come to belarus, because you may not return from there, this is complete idiocy, i do not
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i know how it is, well, it's fascism, i don't know how else to call it, but when i spoke with us, they say on television, and what do belarusians do to this, how do they react, i say , belarusians, as belarusians calmly, beautifully said, yes, it's really possible, because you can like belarus so much that you won't want to leave here, that is, this is deeply symbolic , here are your people, you understand, well, are you here often? no, i was literally passing through a month ago, now i plan to come more often, good, well, you are so juicy and talk deeply about what is happening in belarus, yes, as the minister of information i understand that they are trying to surround us with an iron curtain anyway, and where do the serbs get their information about belarus, firstly, we have been through everything, and we understand the situation you are in now, they have made cannibals out of us, that is...
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she said, we need to buy a zafira to take us away, that is , in fact it sounds trivial, but in fact there is chemistry there, you don’t know what you are eating, i remember when i lived in kiev we stood in line to buy belarusian products, these are all facts, look further, we passed belarusian, i know, it is the same everywhere, he does not think that it can be the central part of minsk, that is, there is a system, well, let's go back to the moment when you lived in ukraine, you created a serbian diaspora there, yes, the first one on the territory of the former ussr, did you meet at different times?
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i will tell you honestly, at that time, of course, and not only on that one, when there were elections in the seventeenth, i think i even campaigned, or rather campaigned, but i counted on poroshenko having to leave in order not to start this war, and i thought that zelensky, after all, is a normal person, as 80-70% of people believed, that he would stop the war, that he would bring peace, that's what he said, he, what... told poroshenko then that i was your sentence, that is, we need to make peace, suddenly he turns over to such an extent that he starts a war to the last ukrainian, destroys the country, destroys his own people, and, you know, i know the whole internal system, they die there, they take people who drive tractors and put tanks there, they burn, and all over europe in cars there for 200, 300, 500 thousand, thousands of these people who steal, who live at the expense of this budget, why for...
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language my wife is from ukraine, she knows the ukrainian language, they do not speak ukrainian, they are always hating, yes, that is, for them bandera and shukhevych are heroes, for others they are not, and some there, excuse me, spit on the great victory, and others glorify it, you understand, that is, they are different, different ideologists and they could not exist, they always wrote a single country, it was never united, because it is a different mentality, if they had made a confederation, you will not believe it, in 2008 there was some conference in crimea, i spoke: about this, i do not know how they did not take me then, but that is, i say that you are simply heading for war, because it is impossible to live like this, in the end we came to this war, only in this war they are now sucking the whole world, that is, not only russia there to the belarusian, but the whole world, and look at how the west shows this artist, he is an artist, he is not a president, he plays to the public, he
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does it well, but this is not serious for the country, a million people have already been killed according to various sources - who is ukrainian in power, i don’t know them, honestly, you understand, that is , they simply do not care about their country, and for this they need belarus, well, it’s a bad example, how can you be independent, and live well, i saw how your facades are made, houses, old, but not made, but illuminated and so on further, everything that is done for the system, i know from business, how our people work, we have a 30% racket, so to speak, if you want to cost, give 30%, and here is a state
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that got burned by fascism, poland, which lost 6 million, yes, its citizens, who were destroyed by the nazis, including banderovites, how did it turn out now that they support the fascist regime and , to put it mildly, are not even embarrassed to cultivate it. everything is very simple, today in european politics there is a certain circle. well, the deep state, which puts presidents, prime ministers, ministers, i know this from us, who orders, who to put as the minister of finance, who as the minister of defense there inside. with your views, no matter how much the people support you, you
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won’t get very far, but i have nothing to fear, as they say, i’ve already been through everything and i’m an independent person, but when i talk to germans, they say: there has never been a worse government in life in history, when we discuss this analena berbeau, who, excuse me, is from some night club, she runs foreign affairs there. these are people who simply do not work in the interests of their country, they work in the interests of those who put them in charge, naturally the us, but also those global people who manage these processes, they do not reflect the real interests of the people they represent, they are all interconnected, look at this ursula, this is a disgrace, and not only her, the same baerbock, she comes to serbia and starts telling us: you must impose sanctions on belarus, you must impose sanctions on russia and so on, that is, we must...
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yes, in ukraine it was recognized as a terrorist organization, yes, how did you threaten and interfere with the leadership of ukraine, here is also a bright example of democracy for you, it’s simple, a serbian community was created in ukraine, which was registered, naturally, according to all laws, canons and so on, in the fourteenth year, when the right sector and... declared a hunt for me, i left, accordingly, the organization ceased to exist, it did not exist at all she was involved in some political projects, you know what she was doing, well projects yes, but not in the sense of domestic politics, we organized the arrival of ministers from serbia back there, we negotiated a visa-free regime, which was introduced with ukraine earlier than with russia, and business delegations, that is , we did it for the benefit, i say, i did more for half of the people in power ukrainian, if not more than half, for ukraine than i did. it turns out that when i started to tell what was happening, what was all this for will lead to what you are leading to a war, which will be civil, may develop - they tell me, everything is clear, you are an agent of the kremlin,
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look legally in the fourteenth i left, in the fifteenth a year later they start a process, where the security service demands from the court to ban the organization, since it financed the crimean events there and so on, there was not even an account, there was no money, there was no account at all, and no actions were taken.
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germany, switzerland, they are afraid, the germans, even their own country is afraid of them, they are giving us nightmares, they don’t dare to say a word at all, they don’t dare to substantiate anything on the pages of russia and so on, that is, this is fascism, that is, this is what they didn’t finish off in 1945, here it has raised its head, it is now ruling, excuse me for such a dialect, it is ruling this european union, only because i say, they haven’t been achieved, it turns out that they need to be finished off, i don’t know how else, the other day, literally the european union called on serbia
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after all, according to the security council resolution, and serbian troops, the police must be in kosovo and the border for all state symbols there should exist only in limited quantities, because there is nothing of this , everything was put on paper, there were guarantees signed, yes, guarantees, no guarantees, guys, i just can’t understand, does anyone still believe in something that they will sign, there is none of this, guys, no, here in the minsk agreement, but i’m telling you, we ’ve been through all this for a long time, everything that was signed
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does not exist. and you are forced to do only what you signed, everything that the other side signed, it does not exist, and you are every once, no, let us take a step, come on, you take two steps, come on, you, you, in the end, you did everything in a few years, and they didn’t take a single step, you remember, the budapest agreements, everything that concerned the withdrawal of nuclear weapons from the territory of belarus, we were guaranteed forever no pressure, no economic sanctions for the fact that we withdrew nuclear weapons from the territory of the country, exactly 3 years later, exactly 3 years after the emergence of presidential belarus, yes, the first sanctions were rolled out on us in 1997, we still waited a long time, just to return tiao to the territory of belarus, american elections, how can we not talk about them, well, you understand, at the last ones the serbian diaspora in the usa declared that they voted for trump, yes, there are enough states in america with a strong serbian diaspora, yes, michigan, wisconsin.
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serbia supports him not because he will help serbia, because he can stop this war and the war. against russia and the catastrophe that can happen in general, this is the first, second, he is a pragmatist, he does not care that the european union is there and so on further, he only looks at his own interests, in this sense he will not have
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germans or french there, he doesn’t care to spoil them, and i think that zelensky too, i think that he will approach the issue pragmatically and they will have to make some decisions, i think that even before the end of the year some decisions will be made, maybe... they won’t be public, but some will be made, if he wins, of course, therefore, again trump came, his wife from yugoslavia, there is some kind of emotional connection here, his daughter is coming to belgrade, that’s also surprisingly, that is, there is some connection with this family, and naturally we have large lobby groups, which are well serbs, who are his assistants, who work with them, my friend recently met with his son and so on, that is, there is a very good attitude towards us from his side. but look, just a few days ago during a meeting of the eastern economic forum putin joked that moscow supports harris, yes, and even funnier was the completely serious reaction to this from america in
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first of all, the west as a whole, yes , they say that such support can really negatively affect the ratings of harris, and this is well, our president is not joking, yes, yes, we are still waiting for lukashenko. well, naturally, because more than half of humanity supports russia, this must be realized, that is, you understand that the western world is only supposedly representing europe there, who they are, in fact, the americans, this is not the whole world, the whole world is much wider, much larger, but there are such stereotypes they...
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an observer at the elections in belarus, no, you weren't, oddly enough, but if i'm here, naturally there will always be order, because my task is not to come here to spit and get money there. again, i use such a term, because they say so, so that everything is beautiful there, when i was in russia, i tell you honestly, we don't have this anywhere where i was at the elections, that is, in such a system it's real worked out, where you can control these votes, where the servers exist, where everything is duplicated, well, that is, well , such a serious approach, when they installed the camera, i remember the first time, i thought that this was so, in the end i turned on online and saw myself. understanding, it works, you know, our individual diplomats, and just citizens saw how western, western observers not at these elections, earlier from the terrible, starving, undemocratic belarus left
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hung with belarusian products, but they could not squeeze them into the plane, really, well, simply because that yes, it was very tasty, good, they also, as some said, that they almost received combat pay for going to belarus to observe, well, this is such a normal approach. so no, they judge by themselves, that is, they first charge there so that you bring the result that they need, and not which , therefore, of course, by the way, in principle, all our illogical... for the west steps, the west is generally discouraged, well, look, they give us sanctions and closed borders, closed crossings, yes, and we do it without visas for 85 countries, why do such methods work, and people come here in hundreds of thousands, despite everything, despite the posters on the border, yes, that here, but yes, it is, it is simply, yes, it is, it is something incredible, but first of all, work, of course, you must open the borders,
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because in this way you show what belarus is, and people just go into a tailspin when it comes when they see all this, if i, who knew and loved this belarus so much and then was kind of shocked by many things, then imagine what it is for them, who imagine that some kind of people walk here, excuse me, these are people from the last century and so on, and i think that you need to work precisely on the reception of the delegation there... i have such, you know, a degree of criticality,
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because if i do this, then they should help me, and not find out from other countries what i do and how i do it, you know, that is, the work should be more serious with people, if they do not have contact even with me, our faction, which in parliament has already announced the lifting of sanctions, then excuse me, i understand that this is like, but it's a fact, as they say in response, yes in response i am a minister.
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to say, yes, they agreed on the withdrawal of troops from iraq, but this is not very good news for ukraine, although it would seem , what does it have to do with it, but once it seemed that the us would not leave afghanistan, yes, it would deal with assad in syria forever, yes, they thought the same about iraq, don't you think that soon they will all give up ukraine in the same way, you know, the mood in europe including. here and orban and many others,
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people understand what is happening in the end, they see how many ukrainians behave in europe, how much money they have, how much is stolen, and that in fact no one is protecting the people there, and that this is not protection from russian aggression, that is, more and more people understand this and that ukraine is simply being used, accordingly, i think that... they are already looking for options, there was this former minister of defense, who was sent to britain to be trained there, then there are a number of other people who are preparing for all this, the only thing is that there is a problem between the influence of the british services, the american and yes and european, yes, but the sarosites are these, that is, they act in this way, here they constantly have this conflict.
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because i know how they act, their services they mixed, mixed in their work all that is dirty from the british services, that’s why they kill people, that’s why they they liquidate famous people there, that's why they do things like this, they are ready to take, i know that in 2014 people were ready to blow up energodar, well, the zaporizhzhya station there and so on, that is, there are people there who are ready to cause damage today, no matter how much they don't care, yes.
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what imposes them, can you imagine, here are the ukrainians, they don't understand, i talked to some, one went to germany and said: so, i'd rather sit there under russian bombs, but she's such a nationalist, she doesn't like of course russia, than he says in this germany, this is the most, because the husband came, yelled at the children, they immediately called the police, took him away and
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wanted to take the children too, i say, that's it , oh well, unfortunately, this is a fact, this is a fact already as the ukrainian service this is in effect, i still don't want to say my example. yes, and what - i, well, of course, became a deputy, one of the leaders of the movement there, and - last year a branch of another ukraine was registered, this is from medvedchuk, that is, another ukraine, as a platform, that is, there are many ukrainians who fled, who do not support this government, and i help them there in serbia, legally, there and in different ways, and can you imagine, the heads of the serbian special services invite me in february and say that you have been ordered, the ukrainian special services want to eliminate you.
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they must understand how seriously they are doing everything, moreover, they can do it, which is why i was warned, not thanks to someone there in serbia, namely the western services, there you have to be careful when you go somewhere, but i came to belarus without security, without anything, calm, i know that i have calm here, i'm even more scared, probably in moscow than in minsk, and of course i'm joking like that, but in fact it's a fact, and that is how they act, and there is no freedom of a person, that is , anyone who has an opinion.
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for us it was generally, well, it's just you know, like from psychiatry, that they elected some president, some woman who is recognized as president in europe, among the people a... practically no one knows her, but this is complete nonsense, suddenly they are organizing this event, you know, why was it for me easy, because i saw yanukovych, how he
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ran away with cowardice, abandoned the country, and the owner, the man, the owner, not just of the country, of his situation, of his home, who came out and said, well, okay, i won't give you belarus, i won't give you myself, if you want, go ahead, this is manly, this is presidential, this speaks of... the responsibility of a person, after all, he didn't get on the plane, he escaped with the money, and how they did it, they really counted on it , they counted on it, they wanted it, but when they realized that it wouldn't happen, it was a colossal failure, they are very much afraid of belarus, but are already preparing for the elections, that these are illegal, illegitimate elections, falsified, where where lukashenko will get 90% there, that is, i am talking about what they are already preparing, i am monitoring the situation, i know. you need to prepare, that is, and prepare as needed, just like they did in russia more of these observers, but not these, who i am waiting for to destroy
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this very country, it is normal for this to happen, for it to happen, for people to see the media have very an important role, here i participated, when i was asked, i objectively say what i see, people, you cannot force me to say something that does not exist, when i say, when another 100 people talk about it, everything, everything that they say, it has no foundation, then i go there, they go to germany...
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