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veniamin marsakh was born in minsk on may 19 , 1952. in 1974 he graduated from the belarusian state theatre and art institute, department of industrial graphics. since 1977, he has been an active participant in art exhibitions, working in the field of scenography, theatre posters, and in the design of national and international music and film festivals.
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not only for the audience, but you will have something to remember and comment on, but i still want to start our program with a question that worries everyone who hears it for the first time. your last name, patronymic, do you have any relation to marshak, the famous writer of children's poems? i always answered like that as a joke, i am the youngest son of lieutenant schnidt, there is no kinship, but a complete coincidence, and soviet times... even
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against my will it worked on some priorities in something there, maybe a plane ticket or you just give a pass, don't say anything, they just look and say: oh, so we have the son of samuil marshak, here you go, here you go, here you go, here's a hotel room, i know that you do you also write poetry, do you also write fairy tales, samuil marshak's poems, do you know them by heart? since childhood, i knew them by heart since childhood, they would put them on a stool, i would tell them , well at least one, remember, such an absent-minded guy from the pool street, instead of a hat on the go, he put on a frying pan and so on, all my attempts to compose something, they are purely amateur in nature, so i want us to look at the footage now, to which you may have a connection, and maybe they largely determined your fate, let's take a look.
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an artist, he is a front-line soldier, he went through everything, through his love, warmth, attention and skill, and i have been with him for quite a long time, i went to this studio for several years, and this was the beginning of such a path, after the studio i went to art school, entered, if i had not come to this studio, if i had not smelled this smell of paint, i could not help but come, somehow, i could not help but come, on the one hand or on the other, i don’t know how, but i would
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that is, another life, you can’t even imagine that it could have turned out differently, i can’t imagine another life, so it turned out that all the interests , all the undertakings that were born with growing up, they all accumulated in the production work, because here there is scenography and...
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since you are an artist, and they are future actors, and directors, and naturally, since we are friends, i came to them, it is interesting, there is also a beautiful girl, and it was very interesting, and then he does not say: listen, well, come on, help, and then such an interesting story happened, how for the first time , for the very first time, when i became director, seriously, i finished my first year, i'm sitting in the komsomol committee, the phone rings, are you calling, so skk komsomol, who are you? i say, i'm just, i'm a student, an artist, i'm just sitting here talking, a komsomol member, i say, well, a komsomol member, come to us, here we are, here we are, there is serious work, yes, an event is being prepared, a campaign of military glory. and we need an artist who will design this event. i immediately became an artist, a director of such a serious event. it was in borisov, on the main square. i know that you spent a lot of time on amateur theater, because i
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graduated from the institute, served in the army. i needed to work somewhere. well, i was invited to work at the automobile plant palace of culture for the position of a production designer, they made plays, but everything was grown-up there , the palace had just been built, it was new, a large stage, well equipped, they ordered large sets, real, serious sets, and there we met our love, with whom we lived for almost 45 years, and where the information is this, absolutely correct, yes, a girl came, a graduate, that is, of directing, for an internship and to make a graduation performance, well, we made a graduation performance, we had such a good, very creative union... and then perestroika happened, all the amateur groups started, naturally, they are collapsing, collapsing, because it was necessary to support it, it was necessary to pay for everything, everything was closing, how to find contact with different people, with different directors, this is the most serious
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question, yes, the most difficult, because a production group is getting together, people come from completely different, let's say, professions, all in art, that is , all creative professions, but people come to do one thing, here are the characters, the level of training, experience, some kind of psychological, compatibility, compatibility, all this is very difficult, when together we already find a common language, everything is already synchronized, when we come to one result, then we go on stage, here, and here are the actors, and this...
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let's go back to our shots and see more shots that are also connected with your life, it's amazing, unbelievable, how young they all are, how beautiful they all are, fantastic, is this your first performance at the youth theatre?
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you still have a huge amount of work in the theatre in other spheres and areas behind you, but i know that in principle the work of an artist is like a swing, today there is money, tomorrow there is no money, today there is work, tomorrow it is gone. or have you always found work, have you always had the opportunity to earn your daily bread, there is creativity, there is work in a profession, when it all comes together, when you have a job, when
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it is very creative, it brings you satisfaction, and you create something, you are also paid for it, it is... but when this is not there, there is a profession that you own, that's because when they tell you do this and that for me, you say well, that's how you know how to do it, when you have done. one job, naturally, there is a result, you little by little, it is not right away, it is step by step, year after year, word of mouth, yes, it begins to develop, develop, i i remember, i started with theater posters, my first professional works were in the theater, as a poster artist, and i made several posters just like that, serious directors saw them, they started inviting me there, they invited me there, when i started working with boris ivanovich, then i was in the theater. i brought him for one performance, so i brought him five, six, seven sketches,
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making a poster is as troublesome as making a model of scenery, because everything must be expressed in it. the performance has been going on for many years, i know that in my opinion, the director deductions are made, yes, and the production designer, deductions have also begun, small ones, but they only began when... perestroika happened, before that deductions were made only to the composer and the playwright, then they started paying, that means , a little to the directors, a little to the artists, and the costume designer, now they are paying , now they are paying, yes, they are paying, it is a small percentage, but in any case, from each performance that takes place, something, yes, something drips, yes, and of course, this stimulates, the artist will never be left without work and i...
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but what warms and pleases me very much is that the craving for fine art, and some abilities they convey, they are there. my daughter, she has a good, serious profession, she loves in her free time, she sits and really loves to write, loves to draw, it's like a rest. let's look at the next shots, to which you also have the most direct relation. it's already interesting, already expectation, since.
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very dear to me work, and since this is a team of my like-minded people too, these are people whom i love very much, appreciate, and as i respect professionals, and as people, we did all this together, this is this performance, in which i did both the scenery and the costumes, the whole stage in the final premiere, the whole stage was covered with straw, like in a stable, and then little by little on the straw, because this is what created the atmosphere, created the texture.
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and so that the fabrics are expensive, and so that the high suspensions, structures and so on, but
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unfortunately, there is a budget, there are uh the capabilities of the workshops, there are deadlines, well, and little by little everything comes, it is cut, cut, cut, but in this, actually, eh, actually, what is a profession and what is a professional, a person who has been given certain conditions, you don't have to choose, you are a professional, a task is set before you and be kind, let's say you have some amount, let's say you have 1.00 rubles. with 1.0 rubles you can speed up as much as you want, but please, make sure that the image... and that the material lasts for 2-3 years and that the artists are not naked, but at least covered with something, yes, that is a profession, to find the main thing, to create something out of nothing from some small things, to create an atmosphere or simply with the help of light or with the help of smoke, tell me, only with the help
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of light, only with minimal means, and i'm interested in the payment of the artist. the director , what does it depend on, the large volume of costumes, the scenery, the idea, the creativity, what do they pay you for? the director sets a task for you, and you have to solve it, you find some creative solution, the director likes it, the task is completed and it doesn't matter, the scene has one stool or five picturesque shots?
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art, and cinematography is such a literal, you never wanted to go into cinema theatrical art is a conditional try yourself as a production designer, so, when i was still studying at the institute, i generally had in my thoughts that someday i would definitely become, go into cinema, definitely.
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for many years you were engaged in the design of mikhail finberg's concerts, the question arose, at first, what to design there, but i found footage where you explain this, ninety- eighth year, each time you can freely develop.
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yeah, well, you need to create an image, and how did you and mikhail yakovlevich find contact, how did you find it, the first ones were at a jazz festival and they just found me, knowing that i ’m a director of such big programs, events, they brought me to finberg, he says, meet him, this is vene, he says, i’m misha, we’re with him, yes, we met, he says, i ’m going to have, this is the first, i’m going to have such a jazz festival, it needs to be really cool, really beautiful, how many years have you been collaborating with...
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solution, on something already found, he could get hung up on something that had already been accepted , break, rebuild, change and find a completely new move. and naturally, the difference in the work of an artist and in the work of a director is that during the production period the artist made the drawings, first the model, then the sketches, then the drawings, handed it all over for work, the materials are already being purchased, everything is already being built, nothing can be changed, the money has already been spent, and the director can, here he is rehearsing, no, let's do it differently, let's like this, well, let's start doing it differently, and of course there are moments when...
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everything is smooth, it was always with emotions, it was always with some nervous outbursts, all this was, but still the work ends and when it is not clear, here is lutsenko, he is doing something, he is rehearsing, he is something, and you do not understand what is happening, and the actors are unhappy, they are tired, because they do one thing, then they have to redo something, and the prop shop, which is necessary, now give this, now give that, here is the sewing, here are these the costumes don't work. let's remake them, let's remake them, they start remake them, all this happened, but in the end you don't understand, it seems like nothing is working out, when the time comes, everyone sits down, when
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the curtain opens, and you watch lutsenko's performances, and somehow it's not clear from where, these threads appear that tug at your most intimate places, he, he has very touching, interesting performances, let's see, the footage that we prepared, one of boris ivanovich's performances, which i at the time, not only the acting impressed, but also the work of the production designer. oh, and this is quite, yes, quite a difficult performance, it was born for a long, long time, very... complex, it was very interesting to work on this performance, very interesting, production-wise, a very big job, because the textures, the textures, that's how it should
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have been, in the finale there was one interesting thing invented, an airplane flies, from there above from the sound control room, an airplane flies, like in tirevo airplane, an airplane flies the stage, the song of morazdena sounds, to make a fairy tale reality, and planes are flying... and this crosses the fire department, and they did not allow, by the way, it is necessary to take into account not only the director's ambitions, but also the fire department, this is very important, this is a very important point,
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today, in the hands of young artists, a huge palette of tools, the latest technologies, well, computers, i know that you still draw with a pencil, do not envy them their capabilities, this, this is what they should envy us. everything that is invented today, proposed, everything that is already being exploited today, know-how, we use all this, but they should envy us, because they are already a school of visualization with the hands of their thoughts, creating this on paper or there on a model, creating, creating some kind of atmosphere, creating textures, textures of some kind, they just
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they just can't draw. unsuccessful performance, and does a production designer have unsuccessful performances? how is this expressed? i had one such performance, we also did it at the golkov theatre, there was a play by luti alexey dudorev and lesha dudorev acted as a director, but he invited me, i as an artist, they started making a performance, it seemed like they had thought of everything, everything seemed good, then i got this idea that there was some room with some mirrors and window openings, and there were
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windows. outside the windows there was like an aquarium, there were fish swimming there, they ordered it from some dutch the company, they ordered, it's very complicated, they ordered these, that is, a black office, mirrors and windows like these, and a small table on which there is an aquarium with one fish, this was such an atmospheric thing, they brought it, put it in the yard, i say, guys, please, then weld the frames there, be sure to put rubber underneath, be sure to put it underneath, because the water pressure goes from top to bottom, and this is an aquarium.
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by the end, bam, it bursts, that's what i 'm left with, i'm left with a bare bare stage, holes like these, no scenery, well, here i am i say, well, forgive me, that's how it happened, one aquarium burst, the second one burst, so it happens... such things, i'm asking you, do you like music, why are you asking, just like that, i like to know, i collect information on various issues, so you love music, this is a very dear performance to me, because this is, this is such a team of like-minded people, which is shelistov tkachona, kolik libanovich, modest abramov, i , we did this performance together, it was on the small stage, it was a very wonderful, very touching performance, and it is very it went on for a long time and with great, let's say, interest of the audience, and here i had one small problem, it means that the performance
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was made on selection, that is, everything that is here, i found a table there, i found this there, in order to create, because the audience is sitting right on the nose of the audience, here the audience is sitting next to it, like a movie, yes, like a movie, yes, that's it, there was one moment - so that it would be enough for the whole performance, i spent a lot of time until i achieved this, it seems, trifles, it was easier to come up with a big whole decoration, than to force drip here and there throughout the performance this kind of thing, so as not to add, not
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to add, and then this performance was moved to the big stage, she won't go to bed without some kind of march, two or three marches before bed, it's amazing. your parents, they are mechans, yes, they are not connected with creative work, no, my father spent his whole life behind the wheel, he went through the front, he went through stalingrad, he got to the beginning of the war stalingrad, the kursk bulge, there is prokhorovka tank, he got to genichesberg, he went through everything, and he is a simple, he is a simple driver, his mother is simple accountant, never had a desire to stage a play myself. director, when i read in my youth i read some stories, novels, novellas, and it was yes, that someday i might become a director and shoot a film, that's when i drew, made graphics and sketches of paintings , let's look at the footage of your
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co-direction, by the way, on our television, oh, yes, i understand, we don't have a single document that merits...
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how what, what will happen, then we worked, naturally, naturally, sketches of the opening, naturally, sketches of the closing, naturally parallel festivals were small, there was also
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a stage there, a stage there, all this was necessary, all this had to be collected everywhere in a single style, and again not very big budgets and each time it is... a big holiday, what i like, here are the teams of listopad, that people come to work who do not just make a festival, they live this festival, they want it to be real.
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yes, dukchin, aleinikov, this, this is really, this, this, perhaps, this is one of the largest projects, a project very dear to me, very important, very interesting, i always remember with a big, well, i don’t know, but how did it happen that you got on this project , olenikov and i come to my studio...
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the stage is 14 m, plus on one side you need 8 m for the scenery that comes out, on the other side 8 m for the scenery, plus in the back, since there is a back video projection and a video projection of the halls, such a 3d effect is created, you need another 12 m in the back, because back then, back then the wide-angle lenses were not so powerful and they did not give a wide view, you needed a large distance, to create all this, and i say that it will not fit on any stage.
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project in moscow, then we worked in st. petersburg, all this was until lenikov got sick. you know, we really want to take this musical around the world and prove that belarus is not a piece of cake, but an amazing, wonderful country. thank you, the palette of your interests is huge, these are concerts, and events of the city plan, the republican plan and performances. here are musicals, i want us to
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look at some more footage, which, it seems to me, you are also dear to the ones you took part in, let's pay attention to the screen. really very dear, well, dear to me topic, very important topic, the topic of memory, here is the topic of the patriotic war, the topic of victory - this is an infinitely important topic for me, like some kind of ordinary protocol event, well, here we arrive with the director, we arrive there, you look, there is nothing there
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with you a task: here i need to put this, here it will be, here they will go from here, they will come there, here there will simply be a monument, the director sets in front of such and such music will sound, well that's it, the task is to organize this whole space, and to create a certain atmosphere, when you go to the monument, people walked along this alley, they put these plasma screens on the screens, then there was a task to find a lot of... photographs of people who died there, and it was thought up so that they would float out and burn, float out and burn, when you pass, while you walk there inside. you have this feeling, some kind of understandable feeling, it arises.
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atmosphere, a certain atmosphere, after all i so i understood that the theater is your love, and i want us to remember another performance, also by boris ivanovich lutsenko, the shot of which we prepared on which you worked.
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interesting productions, you must not repeat yourself, you must be sure, you must be a member of the team, you must respect those colleagues who work with you, trust them, this is partnership, mutual, mutual understanding, mutual respect, mutual tolerance, new projects. here is dynamics, here is movement, these transformations, multifunctional use, when unexpectedly from these same details different
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plots, different pictures appear, well, probably, probably, because of experience, because i have done a lot - a lot of similar projects, when on the one hand classical theater, on the other hand concerts, on the third hand music, musicals, some kind of variety shows, i do a lot of shows, when all this is in synthesis, it's just experience, with boris ivanovich you did one of his last performances.
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that's what kind of closed space it is, small stage, these structures, i wonder what you put into this, in essence yes, this is the globe, which, which was judged to the small, to the small world, here they ended up in this ball, that is, they ended up in this flask, i foresaw that you would not keep your word, you would not keep your word and if i had not had time, if i had not had time, you would have been, where, where you would have been, right there, yes, where the majority of us are, the monument, who ordered you to make it, you yourself proposed this concept - this wing and this profile, as if the stage, portals, grates and a black square that is pushed in,
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the stage is closed, the wing is on top and its profile is cut out, when the sun, when the sun goes, shines, yes, then here is the shadow - this is more accurately the light, its profile, and it is like this, it floats like this there, the thing is that when boris... left, i already knew that i, that i am something, that i must do something, that this is mine, i have dreamed of traveling around the world all my life, i dreamed of becoming a sailor, of seeing the whole world, but i know that you have been sailing on these cruise ships for more than one year liners, and there, what... do you do on all cruise liners, all sorts of interesting events happen, all sorts of
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festivals are organized, theaters open, somehow they see that we have good specialists, they invite and invite, yes, they invite to festivals, sometimes, sometimes they invite to interesting productions, it's incredibly interesting, once, well, once i really had to visit uh. oh, oh, wow, this is me, this is me, that is, me,
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this is mikhovichok, mikhovichok, this is mikhovichok venya, this is my doll, i made this for the kolyakhanka, absolutely touching, charming doll, oh, so she, so she also works, fun, fantastic, very cool, thank you very much, here she is, this is this, she is very dear to me, when you make... a doll, you just right under your hands, you begin to feel her pulse. we have another tradition - little britsapros. short question, short answer. your zodiac sign: taurus, your favorite color, turquoise. your favorite drink? bergamot tea. your favorite holiday? well, probably your daughter's birthday. your favorite place in minsk, kropotsky lane, which no longer there. i grew up there, there were barracks, there was a private house, it's just not far from the belarusian drama theatre, i like
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to go there, it's easy for me to breathe there, some kind of emotional wave and memories always rises inside me there, and i want to somehow continue to live like that, have you traveled a lot, which country impressed you the most, japan, who scares you the most, loneliness, your? main advantage, let others say, your shortcoming, the main thing is gentleness of character, in principle and dignity - this is also a softness of character, but this is my main drawback, your life principle, to enjoy everything you do, what is the meaning of life for you, in nines, what is the happiness of veniamin marshak? in the health of my children, my loved ones, my dear people, that's when i'm happy if they are healthy,
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if they are prosperous, if everything works out for them, then i'm happy, the rest is all myself, i want to wish you great happiness, so that you all are healthy, here is a lot of creative work that keeps us in a good incentive this is mutual according to tradition.
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our beloved, matsi, rodzima, velshe nashydy, bosha love, my, matsi, rodi, dearly alive and belarus, at once a country. we are stiflingly away, we
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have dropped, dear people, you are with you, you came out on your own, your own, the chanting began, the layers of the earth, also the light of the moth.
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