and only at the final stage begin economic and social transformations here. for anyone who is at least generally familiar with the history and modernity of the middle east region, the counterproductiveness and illusory nature of such an approach is obvious, the aggravation of domestic and international conflicts in the middle east confirms this. in the case of the shootout between israel and iran, instead of defusing the conflict, the us is playing along with the jewish state. unfortunately, the middle east region is a book. as once lived peacefully for centuries, we see historical decisions are littered by nations, well done, the english, who said, this is your home for two nations at once, the nazis, who sowed even more discord, the superpowers, who pumped both of them with weapons, but no matter how you look at it, the conflict itself, which is larger than life, has been going on since ancient babylon, who is truly right, who is guilty, perhaps we will never... find out,

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like a legacy of the past, you can say, the chronicle was changing before your eyes, i remember this time well, inspired young zochi, i i remember how concrete mixers drove up day and night one after another and laid concrete. architecture is not some element of clothing, a scarf or a tie, today it went out of fashion, there it was replaced. another suit, but this remains for centuries, a bass knife in a village, to trip up a fool, to wish for dewy grasses with a holy, silver, you have such lyrics, you know, cozy for autumn, you wrap yourself in a wicker basket and so my way, but poetry is a special gift, not everyone can do it, computers have learned to solve checkers problems, but have not learned to compose, i even listened, and then, when men, you firewood and there's such a chorale here, i even started crying.

hello, this is the program say don't be silent. in the studio are victoria popova and tatyana shchyurbina. and today our guest is an architect, poet, composer, athlete, anatoly shabalin. hello, anatoly andreevich. hello. well, i want to note right away that i was introduced very loudly, a composer, a poet, i don't consider myself as such. i believe that i am the author of music. this is a long period, a period, so to speak, in the history of our country, actually, you could say, on your the chronicle of the city changed before our eyes,

including the architectural one, do you agree with that? i agree, but besides that i also worked at belgosproekt, there is such a position as chief architect of projects, yeah. then i was promoted up the career ladder, you could say, but i took this position on the condition that i would be a creative worker, an active architect, so i still designed and participated in competitions, today we will talk about your most iconic projects, but first about criticism, in social networks we came across an opinion, they say minsk avenues all the beauty - it's like a legacy.

express your opinion, do not impose another, of course, the face of minsk is our main avenue, it changed its name, there is stalin, lenin and so on. it is part of unesco, and it creates the scale of the capital, especially, the buildings that go out onto the avenue and a little in soronka, this is the well-known opera house, the opera house, the academy of sciences, and the government house, the government house, they create. all its buildings, the officers' house, the urban planning ensembles around themselves are already forming, that is, significant, that's it significant, the water-green diameter is also significant for minsk, it cannot be destroyed, something cannot be built nearby, because it also creates

for the residents of minsk, the face of the city, nowhere, actually , such a green one in other capitals, you know, it's true, i stopped noticing when guests come to us, they say that i love this... vasilisa shelnikovskaya was engaged in this, she put a lot of effort into this, she always spoke emotionally, now she is no longer with us, here is her great merit in the water green diameter, she every time i was sick when something was being built nearby, i wonder, there are a lot of disputes around kimpinsk this building, how do you relate it.

less, but about 10 years ago, construction began somewhere, if so in 1985, because i remember that time well, an inspired young zochi, that means, i joined the team of authors. to design, in 1985 construction began, i remember, like under the wall, and monolithic, 3 m thick, it was something, that everyone looked at the pit is gigantic, it is deep, this monolith and day and night, then they erected these walls and they brought out, literally, everything there is in concrete walls, not brick, concrete, they brought out the stage box, and it is above the stage level, and the stage level is 0.0 is always considered as a conditional mark, but it seemed to us that you are a fan of, let's say, bold architectural solutions, let's watch the video, and you

comment on it, yeah, there are also areas in the palace where even the artts are not, such a chance is only for journalists, and then once every 10 years, to make sure that these safes behind the door are not empty. so, our film crew, as you can hear, is located under the stage, and this is the space for the so-called vans, here are stored the seats for the presidium. these are the ones you could see at events where the president participates, a fan, as you said, of sharp decisions, bold architects of bold architectural, yes, a fan, but at the same time i want to stipulate something here, there is a bold decision, but which passes a year, two, three, four, five, they are already, you see, they are outdated, because architecture is not some element of clothing, a scarf or a tie, today it came out of fashion.

a great many, and extraordinary, and there were flying saucers that flew in, and whatever, there with raised wings, but we made a large model, including the building of the central committee at that time, and the officers' house, and there we inserted a valve, a palace, all these extraordinary, ultra-modern ones, for which we were rooting, it seemed that if you create a masterpiece, everyone will clap, they did not fit in , the second was to hide the box so that it did not look like a theater, to remove the theatricality, so they made a rehearsal room there and it kind of frames it, it turns out, you can't see,

that this is a theater building, the third question, as they said, so that it would seem even small, that's why the platform is raised up, as if we enter the platform, the level of the small halls is under the platform, and all the main technical rooms, both technical and small halls, they are all underground, that's why the building seems small. when everyone gets in, wow, the fae is big, the hall is gigantic, but all these beauties that our zablotskaya collegium showed us in trucks are stored, they generally take up a lot of space, you know this technique used in the bolshoi theatre, we have a photograph, which just looking at it is scary for the theatre, the stage we see what is happening, and there too you went into depth, you suggested? in the bolshoi theatre, namely to dig this hole, yes, how many floors, six floors

down, uh, no, there are much more, well firstly, i was already appointed the main architect for the reconstruction and restoration of the theatre, after i went through a certain school already specifically for the palace of the republic, because the hall there needed to be transformed, the stage, it is complex a technical question, well of course, did you already have experience? there was experience, mechanics, how is it, well, it’s not dangerous, in general, if you listen, you can hear the noise, because these are, so to speak, chains that mechanically lift these huge trucks, on which the presidium and so on, the presidium tables, this takes a long time, so when i was already approaching the opera house i looked, that there should be noiselessness and speed, i studied military equipment somehow, this is... where tanks are made, all these guns are lifted silently and quickly, chassis for

airplanes, but we use them in dump trucks, in my opinion, this is the same equipment, where there are lifts and so on, well and here having studied it is clear that these hydraulic cylinders are needed, which lift, what a deepening, and here there is a deepening in the opera house at 17 m, 17 m, they told me. with the metro project, they are in cramped conditions, it often happens that the metro needs to be passed, and there are high-rise buildings, they said, yes, it is possible, but we - along the perimeter of this pit, where the stages are, we will make bored piles, these are up to 20 m high, we can, these are driven in, metal

piles, concrete is poured there in two rows, and nothing will ever collapse here, somehow... your colleague alexander matyas was interviewing, and it was late autumn, and we got into this trium, a cameraman was filming us, it was cold, he was freezing, he quickly filmed, left, and matyas was still writing down how many trucks there should be, the depth there, technically, while it was friday, already the end of the day, the guard there did not see us, he saw that the cameraman had left, closed, and we sat there until late evening, until someone called, a man arrived from his dacha and what a delight, firstly now.

he supported it, because it is one thing in words, another thing is that it should be documented, the design assignment was approved there i remember how you communicated in raised tones and how he was worried with his soul and heart about the construction, often i don’t understand, let’s also remember, now there is a fountain near the theater, yes, we see a beautiful pool with a fountain, but maxim bogdanovich was standing there, in fact, cultural figures, when you suggested. to move it, to turn it around, as it stands now, wrote a letter to all authorities, 100 signatures, in general, your head should have flown off your shoulders, yes, it should have 100%, because 100 votes is, how come you weren’t fired then, they should have, that’s for me too, well, here’s what, i’ll tell you why, the first meeting was with the vice-premier, well, i was already

preparing, why wasn’t i afraid, i knew that they would fire me, so i was mentally prepared somewhere , so i wasn’t... scared, everyone reads out who speaks there, they all say beautifully that we can’t break the laws, and such and such international organizations cite there, that monuments are never allowed, this is our heritage and so on and so forth and public organizations spoke out, and many like the chief architect of the city from the ministry of culture were there, that is, i was the only one left when alexander nikolaevich kosents... he says, well , the architect didn't sign, who is responsible for , he says, why? well, everyone was already waiting and getting ready. well, i say, i didn't sign, i have a different opinion, well, i said, why the arguments that he shouldn't look at yanka kupala street, there is yanka kupala, who is looking, he should look at bogdanovich street, because there is the house where

he was born in troitsky predmesto. end of the building neither his lyrical poetry looks, and he has nothing to do with the building, that he is not the founder of the building, nothing, there is a fountain there logically, besides, when you leave the theater, you see, well, somewhere the back facade of bogdanovich is also not very good, and he supported me, but i understood that this would not end, that people further to the head after all, it turned out that way, because during the next review soon the interiors.

i saw how the head of state was indignant, he looked, what i hear, that the minister is afraid of the svyadomykh, let's go further, went, then stopped and said, if the monument is not moved tomorrow, then it will be, they moved it tomorrow, well, they lifted it onto a car, i went to the author's supervision, and well, for restoration there it was necessary to sandblasting.

i organized my version in the group, i had an idea, so such that like a hockey stick , a long volume, which is diagonal to the avenue of winners, so that everything is not

even, so parallel, it is diagonal, this created a certain sharpness of the composition and the puck is the object of the puck itself, i bombed the whole composition, here it was necessary first of all to go from urban planning solution, to create an ensemble, then a large ensemble, it around itself... this part of the alley, yes, the pedestrian one, on which too, you see, like near the theater, but you always try to create space near

the object, here too there was a difficult task, why i also remember, well, as an official they call me, this should be introduced already at the end of construction, somewhere 3 months left, minsk, the arena, in 3 months they should have the olympic glory alley, this has been received.

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the program "say don't be silent" is on the air again and today our guest is the architect, two-time laureate of the state prize of belarus anatoly shabalin. anatoly andreevich, but you also write songs, as you said, you are the author of the music, the author of the words, and these songs are performed by many of our famous artists, in particular the people.

i finished it, well, and i'm already looking for something that i can read to him, the second verse, i even like it there especially, a barefoot fool tripping over a village, dewy grasses in the holy, silvery zekhot, there is such an artistic image here, he asks, did you write it yourself, that would be praise, i then realized that it was already possible, well, let's listen to the song performed,

it was released quite recently, you were both the author of the words and the authors of the music, thunder struck over me, like a bat in the sky, so unexpectedly in winter a thunderstorm broke out, i couldn't take my enchanted gaze away, there was no way forward, no way back, it blinded me, took away my peace, led me into the unknown, spun me around, i was as if in delirium. well

, such piercing lyrics, it's not clear why your brother alexander initially took your poems with hostility, i compare this song with the previous one. here the words were written first, then i, that is, the music, when i gave the first ryazovka to one very experienced musician, bronislav petrovich sarmant, he advised, he says, a very good melody, try again, there was a verse, chorus, verse, chorus, try a third of an hour, i developed the theme, here is a three-part, he then says, this is a 100% hit, that not immediately the chorus, there should be a gradual development of the theme, this is... you call on us to listen to three parts of this composition, but i am simply saying the difference between that and the difference in the performers, there i immediately heard anatoly ivanovich perform, i courted him for a long time, for a very long time there

with some tricks and other things, i sang it to him for a long time there at various heights at least not love yes, yes, i understand, that is, you are for that , it is gradual, while he says: listen, let the arranger then nikolai satsura. nevsky uh, i also have such memories, something on the reconstruction of the opera house, and there drenevsky in the opera house, well , a small room where the choirs rehearsed, there at that time, and he somehow calls me, and i

think, holy cow, the acoustics are not the same again, they did something there, he is anatoly andreevich, go there, and something like that, well, like a formidable one, he is like that there, but i go in and i know, now they are singing. can you really be here rehearse, look how everything is buzzing there, although there are acoustic shields there, everything, well, the choir is waving there, then these, to babite posit dalya glyad, well, in their own way, a little melody for the choir, i listened, then, when the men, there's firewood and there's such a chorale, i even started crying, that is, i didn't expect it so emotionally, in general, the choir always has an effect, and as for the performance, well... here , on the contrary, it's a fragment from a musical, the soloist stepanov was well recorded here, he performed this song in his own way, but they advised likhno's acquaintances, his friends, that here is a very

good song, take it into the repertoire, he took it in his own way, performed it, added colors, a slightly different arrangement, this is a musical gela, we have a fragment, let's listen to an excerpt from this musical, which... sounded during your anniversary evening, who of us is right, who is guilty, where can i find the answer, where the candle still burns, or where the dawn has already gone out, my love. joy god, i hear the echo of your shanov, in the silence, the day gone by,

their sound in the heart is getting stronger, performers, here is andrey stepanov and...

skorokhodovich, the rector of the conservatory, and there he, of course, we studied the notes of everyone who wanted, that is, thanks to skorokho, yes, that was the beginning. and then many went there and i was already finishing playing the guitar there, and bartkevich lenya took over there, that is , many musicians came from there, you are friends, we know gostyukhin, we have met him more than once, and we also love him very much, he was a guest of our program twice, well, and we know the temperament of vladimir gastyukhin, and you once put him in his place, so to speak, reader, tell me. well, first i want to say, you said, you are friends, well here,

probably, it is not entirely correct, if i take the gradation, there is a friend, comrade, buddy, then somewhere, probably, such comradely, working relationships, that's it, i would not call it friendship, cooperation, but how it all happened, i am precisely for this musical, the shadow of an angel, who wrote libretto with his brother, with your brother, alexander, that is, he first criticized you, and then began to talk to you, this is good, readers in general, this is a special gift, i

know, well, in the former soviet union, this is they read well, like the kazakovs, yursky, also vladimir vysotsky, that is, they felt the word and conveyed it, we have it well, like gostyukhin, vladimir mishchanchuk reads well, onisenko is good, well, you see, you can count him on your fingers, yeah. although there are many good actors, but poetry is a special gift, not everyone can do it, so i somehow felt that he could, well, somewhere i found out his phone number, i called him there, i was worried, well, who is he, when an architect says, i write and invite a musical, well, not seriously to this applies, always well excuse me, i'm busy, but to my surprise he said, well let's meet, but i'm primarily interested in dramatic material, here in the area... so bt was, he says, come on over

, he yes, he gave an interview here, probably, i probably gave it to us, to us, probably, of course, i gave it to him, then about 2 days passed, i thought, well, as usual, i'll call again, you know, there was no time, this happens with people, he, yes, i read it, he says, i liked it, he says, this is my topic, i'll participate in this material, then we went. these are the recordings in the studio, but at first he asked, how to sing, i won't sing there, then i introduced a character from the cultures of youth, where this is exactly andrey stepanov, he says, show him, when i mixed it, he looked, it's good, not bad, it will work with any take, that these are memories of youth, well, i say, you are somewhere there, if necessary, then singing there, well, dramatic in a chant, such a recitative. we recorded where he reads as if a sage, there is a parable, at the beginning, at the end the verses

censed, that touching, that you besieged, there it was when they were recording at the darofeev studio, and before that they were recording other soloists, when gastyukhin came, but everyone loves him as an actor, well, they stayed there to listen, and he of course there is the scene of valentina polikanina, forgive us, forgive us, forgive us for our swearing. so what is he vladimir vasilyevich, volodya

is just, well, i'm bad, volodya, he and what? i say, well, you're like this, forgive us, forgive us, forgive us, exclamation mark, you have to, forgive us, forgive us, and in a whisper, forgive us, and ellipsis, he listened like that, he's not used to being put down like that, he, well, let's try a second take, i say, just these words are enough, he, no, i have to get into it. into the musical background, he did it all with the same passion, it was so emotional, that is, the man puts his soul into it, at the end he, when he whispered, everyone listened, so they were speechless, he went out, i say, well, that's another matter, he, well, now i 've listened to it, listened to it, so, well, it's good,

an amazing story, let's take a break for a while, after a short pause, we'll return to this studio again, and in the meantime, subscribe to our telegram channel, say don't be silent, we will introduce you to the people of our country, they have many interesting stories behind them, you have been in sports for half your life, you have been going to the gym for so long, i am in the army. i trained my company commander, i was a trainer, plus you always trained some of your friends who trained with you, why don't you want to try, you still have an education, why don't you want to try training people, and are ready to surprise again again pay attention to this theater, try yourself here, i have been here several times

came to audition, where apparently he made a certain positive impression for the director and

the following facts and uncapped news of the minulaga, such a lot, the sluggish boulders were split, palliated and laid out in these scenes, in other words, the color, the look of the cultural svetnitskiy project architecture of belarus. the gothic of the vyalikaga principality of lithuania is not crazy enough to such a classic design, we are famous for the so-called gotyka, which did not allow the slave of the sculpture. on air again say don't be silent our guest

today architect, composer, author, music, poet, and also athlete, anatoly shabalin. anatoly andreevich, as... world champion, but this award is the most expensive not only because it is made of chinese silk, it is all embroidered, these are not stencils, not stencils, not paint, they paid a lot of attention to it at that time, even at such a level, as i understand it, that this thing is many years old, but it has been preserved as a real

work of art, that for me it is like a red carpet, which leads to good results. the result of victories, you world champion in checker composition, twice, yes, what does melody have to do with it, explain to me how this is a composition in view of the fact that the book is called my book yours is called melody checker problems, this genre checker composition problem, it is a very complex genre, and there are not so many checker composers in the world who, let's say, put some idea. and in order to develop it, to achieve it, sometimes you go in parallel, you know, some grandmaster, although i am also an international grandmaster, who will win? intellectual sport and, as it were, intellectual struggle, what interesting, i'll also note that the computer

has learned to solve checkers problems, but has not learned to compose them, in this book of your melody, checkers composition, there are 400 problems, and so on, in the preface you offer parents this book, because in order to distract children from computers, i wanted to ask, are checkers as popular today as in our youth? in belarus, in our belarus, popular, because a certain school has been laid here, now the same magnificent palace of chess and checkers, there are coaches, this school of coaching is going on, sports, and children win, adults and children play hard between cities competitions, that's it.

all-union competitions was a prize winner, what i want to say in this regard, that this school and these clubs are constantly - these are big expenses of the state, therefore i regardless, whether these clubs are sports or music, i have a negative attitude towards those people of my simply attitude, who somehow ignore this, we ourselves are so talented and somewhere leave other countries, where today there...

please tell us in the publishing house 4/4 here are my books that came out, for me it’s, no, it’s prose, prose is everything, yes, prose, uh, it’s different, somewhere with humor, there is, like the theft of gourmets, somewhere there is, a village theme of showing off, at least they tell me, you’re a city dweller, how well somewhere i get into character , i write, anatoly andreevich, you can often be seen at the bolshoi theater at premieres and...

so to speak, but also the builders love you for a reason, you wrote a march for them at one time, yes, it was a long time ago, it was during, you know, the work on the opera house, the general director, who, you know, potkin, valery aleksandrovich, was engaged in the reconstruction, he says: "anatoly, and he was filming the whole time, as the construction was going on, and he says, it is necessary for the clip, so that you would dedicate it, that is, to the company, but i went deeper."

grashe, look, the width of the boulevards of the avenue is in full swing, we are proud of the peaceful profession, construction bu, what was in dreams, cranes towered into the sky, greeting us with the upswing of arrows, the foreman and fitter bent over the plan, studying the scale of new affairs. builders, we are an army of labor, builders, a field, builders, we are the first where, where they grow, rather cities, anatoly andreevich, we will make a cut of our program, send it to you, and you write us a march, say, don't be silent, you just received an order, i'm afraid that say,

don't be silent, it will be in two parts...

a march to talent, some kind of unbridled , or something, well, you are good at everything, anatoly andreevich, for what not taken, yes, and this is surprising, well, as if the most pleasant thing that i once heard in your interview, that you say, i don't like when people whine, we also don't like when people whine, we love, when people do things, and you, in fact, are doing it, you look so great, you think so well, and we also wish that your musical will finally be released to a wide audience.