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do you copy? houston, this is mission specialist ryan stone. am drifting. do you copy? you c y >> sandra bullock and ala bull cuaron are here. they collaborated on "gravity."" it is an action movie set ine s space. ders deep questions. here is a trailer. >> beautiful, don't you think? the sunrise. terrific. ♪

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bullock and alfonso cuaron atns this table together. he has been here before. but never with you. >> he hasha done everythi donter and before me. i am ok following him. >> when they show you this part, d you say you loved it? >> no. >> did you say you are tired of working? >> i said, i have nothing tohave offer. i don't even know where to begin to start talking myself inalkit. >> why? >> i want to stay i w.. with my sweet little boy. that would be the child. i was not in ai wa inwa in my life. retty much. life--that was it. >> why did you wonder? -- want her? austin. her in

we had a l y conversation. i called my partner. i said she is right, but e is r , does not want to work. apparently she wanted to do ittd after th sation.on. she did not let us know for ano nofew days. we suffered. >> she upped the>>nte, as they theyey >> as interesting as gameplaying might sound, there are other factors. you need to weigh them before you go off on an unknown journey. there was nothing about this journey that i can get a handle on and say, i know what this. -- what this is going to be, isd i feel ure in this decision. nothing. i had looked at the other factors to see if i can be ok with letting go of everything i knew >>hat factors did you look at?

>> the first one, can you make n the world a wonderful world for my son? i cannot go here if i cannot be around him all day. if i can't have him be a part of ofthis journey. they guaranteed me that his world would be right there with us. ey would make it amazing, which they did. they turned a soundstage into a wonderful oasis for a child learning how to walk. everything was bumper guarded. [laughter]te he was a year-and-a-half old. not knowing how to do this, will blbe to train for this? will i have the time to prepare? all of the answers were he ans >> it interesting i character for you to want to have it? >> once i knew that he would allo certain level of collabor n -- i did not expect collaboration to come from someone like alfonso. you sign on and you let a tiny

dictator rule the scene. >> the benevolent dictator. >> that is better. the benevolent dictator. but it was not like that at all. >> you need to collaborate at this stage? >> i did not know how to pull it off if i did not have th d ability to collaboilte. because you had nothuse i needed to that he was okha letting me stop and question and search for. he was that and more. >> my son and co-writer, we always agreed that we have composed a screenplay. sandra came to give thee malad. it is true literally, in the senset -- in the screenplayenply that sandra read, every single scene that you see in the film, the way of taking the

characters at was open to interpretation. sandra was open to work to make sure every detail was going to work for he scene. th what is the theme ot the film?film? >> the theme of adversity, the theme of loneliness. >> i thought it was rebirth as well. >> adversity and the possibility of rebirth. the journey is journeyney adversity. the goal is rebirth.rth. >> how long did it take you to s movie?e? >> total? nd a half years. >> how long was that withth etting the actors together? wholehad to develop the technology. we shot it, and then it was three year utting everything together.

>> this is liknothing you have ever made before. you have thought abo gravity much. >> i do when i look at my face in the mirror and you see other parts of your body. you you think about it a lot. [laughter] ome on.on.on >> only you would say that. >> i think about it all the --i think human beings think about it all the time. but i have not thought about how the body works in gravity. which is very different. how the body works in zero g and how it works in gravity. you have to unravel every impulse and reaction that you normally havin this environment. you have to train your body to bend and move in new ways. >> you have to ask -- to train your body in ways that are counterintuitive? >> the best piece of advice that i got from astronauts at the space station was, imagine as if you are pushing and pulling against balloons.

g in is like a balloon -- that is what it feels like.ke there is always an effort. if you hit against something, you move forward. the minute you bump into something, you go backwards. ot stop until you hitop something else. how your body responds and spins out of control. as much as you fight it, the worse it gets. the little pieces of infor pieon that they gave me, i went, wen "wow." >> this is a small, simple,inti. we will do in one year. there will be some visual effects. but it was clear that it was not going to work that way. we need to find a way of making that work.

one of the principles that we scovered was trying to move the actors as little as possible. trying to move the universe around as much as possible. >> did you get used to that? [laughter] >> wow.>> wow >> were you surprised? >> i was surprised that your jumped on it first. continue. take your time. in a peter gabriel concert she , saw all of these led panels. >> led panels. >> we had this idea of experimenting with led lights. that was theoint of departure.r. we combined it with what they -- with ro , the ones they used to build cars.o >> what is happening here?

>>s is the scene where they are literally filming it upside down. are up there moving you.e mo another puppeteeanbelow me. >> wow. . is it the hardest movie you have ever made? >> in the best way. yes. most challenging,ost theg, most exciting.most >> exciting and rewarding. and also, once i figured out i was fighting it, but i hadng itt -- that i should-- that g t gything that wasfrustrating, that limited me all those things , that frustrated me, i figured out they were a benefit. ostensibly the apme thing that is happening to the character and space.acte the loss f control, the the isolation.e frustration. instead ofighting it, you sort of embrace it and it became a friend rather than a problem. >> her nother scene. this is takinthithe space suit.

the bicycle seat, the balancing. >>t was the toughest for you. is of all the r >> you had to contort and hold the position while yousiti balancing. the camera is moving in the background. its moving and turning. all elements had to be in place. if anything was off -- or my hand was in the wrong place. only this p ofy the bicycle seat. she was putting all the weight. she had to move. as if she was floatif . that was a tough one.ou o >> it was also the one that everything was leading upto, in that shot. you can feel the excitement and everydy'sof

positi so many variables had to come together. when it did and it worked, it was absolutely silent. i thought i heard people crying. it was so emotional for everyone when it works, it was beautiful. >> that is one of those moments that were impossible. we could not figure out how we were going to do it. t s collaborating too? >> a big chunk of that moment was going to fall on how sandraa was going to make it look. she is supposed to be floating. in zero gravity. >> you had that career as aat dancer. >> my lo f dancing. i never would have made it is a dancer. i am not disciplined enough. my love of dance, piano for

years, timing and rhythm andhm a everything being musically motivated, when it clicked for me, instead of some barking at unts and timeunts and , i could subconsciously fibre out how toe carry out the scene rhythmically, like a dance routine. once i rehearsed it, you did not think about it anymore. the lower half of your bodyopere inne life and emotional life. you c do your e the mechanics of your body landedou where they were supposed to land.la >> suppose you were disciplined enough, would you like to become a dancer? >> absolutely. that is the thing. people go, really? my dream has always been -- when i allow myself to daydream, ii express myself by moving my body to music, not saying a word.

this is as closethis is as ever come. my dream of being a dancer was sortrt of realize when i made t movie. >> what is she going through? what is the transformation in ryan? >> someone who experienced such a loss, that the only way to survive is to remove anything that is a memory of what life was like befor she is basically a machine allowing her brain and her , skills to propel her forward. everything is rhythmic, perfunctory. nothing in life has any meaning if she can avoid it. situation where she is veryery goodery send me into space, i do notdo care. i will execute whewii need to execute and then go back to life. she is someone who does not care if she has a life or if she perishes. what kind of perwhatis she at that point wn she has to

decide to fight for her life? --l she be someone who gets takes the opportunity to let go and let myself die or does she , take the opportunity and let go and whatever comes, comes. accept that it might be worth fighting for something. it is interesting to see when a person comes to that crossroadss when they get what they wish for. you can ke that choice to let go of life, and not fight for it anymore.anymym >> what was interesting to me is it often takes something else to get you to find that thing. s case, being up there, that she mightd not have found it otherwise. >> life is interesting that way. it does not give you anything you cannot hane. i do not buy that. but i do believe if you are at all awake enough to feel the

reasoning behind something, the man being is an amazing creature. it wants to fight. it cannot not fight for survival most of the timemo we talked about that a lot. what is that thing that happens when you have given up that ignites the right amount of passion to at least try one more time before you truly give up? sometimes letting go is what you need to do. you have the ultimate gift in ie. for those that have not seen it, not want to give it away, but it is the greatest gift gift another human being can give one human being is given. it is so lovingly and selflessly done. if that does not ignite a spark in you to look at your life and see the worth of your life, the you are not gog to get there.. >> that is the spiritual rebirth

that we have been at wing about. >> it is a rebirth -- >> in the larger sense.. not religious, but of oneself. >> knowledge of oneself and the universe around you.un >> was this written byhis our sn and you? >> he was here.he was h he is nicer than me.nice [laughter] nodding at you, what d he say[laughter] >> that was the point ofhe departure.de the funny thing is that before we talk about space and writingn this thing, we talked about th t scenes. -- themes.

we defined itwe oing to be adversity. here were these scenarios possible. there was ththge of an t drifting into the void. that image -- >> it is a perfect visual image. >> it has a lot of metaphorical weight. >> without sounding like a psychologist or a shrink -- >> are you licensed? [laughter] continue. >> someone admitted. >> i have. i still need more, not by yd , but by a professional with a license. the people who know what they are doing. >> when you described hisu desc character, have yoarmet someone similar to it in your own life? >> knock on wood that i should never experience what she has experienced. but we all get knocked about. if you have lived a good life, you will be knocked about.

>> because you have taken risks. >> and, look, getting up every day is a risk. opening your heart to people is a risk. is someone telling the truth? is this guy going to t be honest about the journey we are going on? will i come out going, why did i say yes to something i did not want o say yes to? how do you answer those question >> why did i say yeshyo thisay y one? when we had the initial conversation, we spoke about adversity and what we wanted out of life in similar terms. we have the same language, which really surprised me. >> what was the language? [laughter] >> you see what i got you to admit? >> it comes wn to not knowing. not knowing, and knowing we have absolutely no control over anything. once you admit that you have absolutely no control over

anything, you are more in tune and in sync with the bigger picture. it comes back to the met bhor of letting go. it is easier said than done. going back in and saying yes to an experience that scaerience out of me. am i a bad mother? am i taking him to a place that will not be good?? is this going to be a bad environment? are there huge egos that will make you regret it? a then every single day i was surprised and moved and loved and cared for. i'm so glad i said yes. y everyone gets knocked about.d >> you lso talk about this in terms of personaler relationships. >> absolutely. every timepa have to make a big decision that forces to be around people and make a big life decision.g i panic. , if itn i take a breath

scares me for the right reasons, vely, that is good. if i say i will be around wergy -- a life ise life too short category, you don't say yes. s.did not see this as a "life is e iso short" category. i saw this as a way to get over a lot of fears that i had. and i did. and it was the sweetest time i have had in very long time, ,th personally and in a work environment. therefore it encourages you to look for the same kind of experiences? >> yes. i will never have this experience again. i will never have all these elements come together. i know that. nor am i looking for it. but i want to fight for something that is different and challenging and asks the most of me. i thought i had done thatt before, but i realid never to this degree. but also doing it to thisto degree, it tght me a lot about myself that i had no idea existed.

>> sandra is addicted to testid her limitationhe >> addicted, or i just can no longer be afraid. i cannot let fear dictate. >> it might ha>>n t e past, but now this helps you realize. >> ineed to dive into that and figure out why i am so afraid. was this in a broader sense a transformative experience for you? >> 1000%. the person i came out of this as who i came into ito s. >> the person today is more confident, more understanding of what it is i should do to better appreciate the fullness of life? >> all of the above.ll e.llthat i am more confident, but i am very aware of my they no longer paralyzo lo.

i am not fearless, b not fm excited about the things that scare me. i can look at them from many sides, rather than letting them freeze up. >> you are madly in love withh louis? does that change anything? >> everything. my whole career trajectory, i was given thmazing gift. it has opened doits. it opened all the doors and now i know that i will probably not be able to take most of them because i will choose to be a mom. i will choose to have my life revolve around louis. isn't that shocking for anhock actress?ess? [laughter] i just want to say, before you did, "shocking!"ng!" [laughter] that is a familiar story amongst

people who have children. hav i've been so lucky at this point in my life. >> you have something else to live for. ave something to live for and his life is more interesting than mine right now. so he deserves to have the world revolve around him. >> all experiences are new. to everything is new, to himg nd to me. >> does it make you wish that you had done tyomuch earlier or did you do it at the exact , right time? >> no. it happened at the exact right ti. i honestly don't think i understood the concept of joy.ct un now. i di't know what it meant. i knew what it meant on a surface level. i had no idea what it's really meant, looking for joy every day. t you want in lifei want to get out and find joy. with, of course --

>> that ecause of louis and this experience? >> they all came together. tot is where, if you want toat was it that made me say yes , alfonso's path in life is exactly the same. >> we are trying to sort out the same mysteries. we agreed on the theme of adversity and we want to accept those adversities. we tend to fold very easily into our comfort zone, even if we ari going through hard times. we are a victim of our own issues. crap out of you -- to put you in your place by beating the crap out of you. so somemes, if you are too much in your comfort zone --

>> you don't discover. you're repeating yourself. life, it isimes what you need to shake you a little bit. >> to find the joy. thank you for coming again. a pleasure to see you. >> thank you for having us. >> you are quite wonderful. as you know.as >> that i agree. >> can i get a clip of that? [laughter] that will last me. something has to happen. [laughter] >> thank you. n a moment. stay with us. ♪ ♪

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walt mossberg and kara isher ar here. they are two of tech's most informed venture. ave a new venture, re/code. it is a site that reimagines tech journalism. they formally founded all things digital, the legendary conference series for "the wall street journal." i am pleased to have tlem backha at this table. welcome. how did this happen? >> we spent about a dozen years, as you've just said, doing all things digital. conferences, websites. the dow jones, the company that owns the "wall street jo "wall" allowed us to be an autonomous entrepreneurial unit within there. we made a decision thae a needed to have a different struct to see this thing

rough to its fullest potential. that was to be independent and have our own company and raise the funding that we needed to build the ing further. >> you ldn't do that at comcast or somewhere? >> we had two minority investors. i would al call them parers. one of them is at windsor media. terry was the head of warner bros. pictures and yahoo! for a while. >> the cohead with bob daly? >> correct the other one was nbc news -- the head of that. e two of them are minority investors. we als a partnership agreement with our journalists. >> they were interested. >> you nt to the "wall street journal" and said that you want to go out on your own. did they say no, you can't dooun that? we will make it we wilractive

that you cannot leave? what did they say? >> over the years we have never , gotten an investment from dow jones. we have been profitable, we mad, money.y. there was never any investment. when you are covering an industry and you think about growth a where you can go, the company that owns you does not want to invest, but they arest happy just making money, itmo harder. we wanted to trade the profits we were making for equity.y. that was one of the issues. they wanted to own 100%. >> to be fair, they might have wanted to own 80%. >> the nt control. we were like the crazy cousins. except we did really well.really >> you attracted a lot of ion? >> we had a lot of interest. it was not comfortable for them. it was not comfortable for us.

>> it was inevitable. i have to say that it has pry th .as been mutual.le.icable. we mutually realized that it was time to part ways. they and most media companies, and i think this speaks well to the way nbc handled this, when there is a start up, they really want to control it. i don't consider itt co unusual, that dow jones or news corp. would have had that point of view. >> it was all amicable in the end? >> yeah. [laughter] as amicable as you can be in leaving news corp. >> not only did you oeave, you took about half of their employees. >> they were not news corp. employees. had been contractor b rking for us. >> that ey have to start all over? >> they have hired, to their

credit. they allocate theyand they have hired some hane tech reporters. >> it was separate. it was operated separately. we were a startup within sta larger organization. unfortunately that doesn't work. >> what will you do? you will have a conference? >> it was really long this year. >> three ours. we raised the price. it sold out three hours. >> how will it be different from previous conferences? >> the foundation of it, and you are the master of this, so you know, good interviews and conversation. that will still be the foundation. but we have some ideas for changes. we see this as an opportunity and i know it sounds hokey, to , continue the kind of quality and approach that we have had. everybody we cover changes whata they do every month, every six ..

that is the way the wos d works. we will do the sam wiling. >> you want to make this a kind of clearinghouse for all information about technology? >> the technology you need to know. i will give you an example of something we have already done. we have been in wesiness a month. aving we have already done that we were not able to do before is to hire reporters top cover cutting-edge technology. not just the normal stuff, but science and biotscieology, the stuff that we west not covering before. so we alre y added that. you do fantastic work ---- >> like, what is the crazy stuff google is doing? >> it goes beyond just covering the mainstream of tech. >> the cutting edge. someone to talk

about the junction of technology and community, technology and society. that is another area -- i am not saying no one is writing about it, but we have not been doing that. so even in the first month we are expanding. >> don't just go to this new venture looking for a conference. you are looking for the latest information. >> trusted information. a very different thing. you cannot trust everything. everywhere. what happened was these blogss s have gotten better and better. as mainstream mas maas gotten less and less -- we have proven -- less ands influential. we have proven that a small group of people can have a ve assive influence just getting good at what they do. last week, welast announced satn adella would get this job at microsof >> id you do that? use we e great reporters. ers. same thing with reviews. our reviews are better because we can do reporting on the reviews.

we have a very rigorous reviewgo system that is thatporting.hatht people are dying for quality content. ringing it to them in a t fresh way. we are cognizant of mobile.zant of smaller storie sm we move fas >> let's talk about the broader adercture. you are part of the irea of web journalism. whatever you want to call this. you have reclined movingcl to -- ezra klein going to vox. david pogue going to yahoo!. give me a sense of what it is about and what impact it will have on the connoisseur, the consumer, as well as what impact l have on mainstream media? >> let me start.>> l we both have thoughts on thi t is the web itself.s.e two thone i do not believe that print is inevitably dead or that every

traditional broadcast outlet is necessar y dead. but clearly the web is ann enormously dynamic and important place for journalism that is winning right now. that is one of these things. the the one common factor in all of these things. it is web-first and web-b-firic. second that has to do with a , combion of journalism and entrepreneurship. ezra or nate silver, or maybe us, these are people that haveuilt brands and may have the opportunity to raise money w get partners who will fund their efforts at let them goet off and do what they want. they do not need to be in t need bigger structure. s? eou do not mean this applies nate silver went from one big

place, the "new york times" to another place. >> i do not know what the deal is there. >> but he will have real cont ill have real control. once you have real control - uberer upendedransportation. we see upending all day long. we are disruptive, but in a good way. it is not disruptive for the sake of being disruptive. at one point, we talked to rupert for something. for rupert murdoch, we hang out all the time. ghter]ghte he said, how do you get all these stoops with eight and i said, how do we? a good question.good que he said, what is e e answer? that is a good question. >> o he is, and why he is who he is. >> he is disruptive. >> he was curious. >> how can he figure out how to do it so he can do it?

>> maybe he wanted to save money. >> he takes risks. we respect t what is he doing? >> he called us. i know him rom a long time ago.lolo en he was -- way back, before. >> she knows everybody. >> i do. he is trying to do a much more advocacy thing. -- that is where he wants to go. he feels there is a real importance. he did one in hawaii. a whole bunch oa wings. he is in a different zone. it is much more advocacy, investigative. with a point of view. he has so mhe money and is very sted in that. >> not being served by mainstream journalism. >> i admire that.

>> i remember the conversation we had. we had several dozen people, some of them companies, some of them investors, wanting to give us money or invest in us. we had to find a deal with was right for us. we did not hink the advocacy route was right for us. we certainly didn't think having somebody have the controlling share in our new endeavor was right for us. we wound up -- >> there are a lot of venture capitalists in the space. bought -- -->> techcrunch. >> we know all about what aol is doing. >> he is very interesting, what they have been doing. rmstrong. >> they got rid of patch. >> it is no longer. >> we're talking aboutking a technology and venture

capitalists. they invest in the companies that we cover. they perfectly and sincerely want to invest and we thought the conflict would be too great. >> we were talking to media companies. >> venture capitalists, no? stdia capitalists, yes? withu have a conf yct hav media companies? >> if you invest in us and we mention you, we have to disclose it. >> the thing that matters is transparency. anfull disclosure. >> venture capitalists are a little different. every mediany is now digital. venture capilists, we didn't want to have the same investors asked -- as uber, for example. >> help me understand. i genuinely don't understandt if this is a venture capital deal for comcast -- we did that with ano roup because we

didn't want to deal with their venture arm. we did not want their money. why are thema wng this >> you would have to ask them. they want to change the way news is delivered. pat, who is running it, i met her. >> do they have an equity interest? >> yes. >> how is that differw t? >> here's the diffe'ce, charlie. any time we mentioned comcast for nbc, even though comcast is not the investor, but the parent. >> they are the investor. >> we will disclose that they are a minority investor in the company.mp the differencethe f we did the deal with one or two of the big venture capitalist firms, there would be dozens, scores of these disclosures that we would have to make. it is a question of degree. -fashioned that way. >> i want to point out that we

are so old-fashioned that every reporter on our site has a link next to his or her byline to t their personal ethics statement. finances, whateveinan else might be relevant to the readers. >> what could go wrong? >> we have a record of profits. >> that's not what i mean. if for example, david carr wrote a piece. basica lked about, really getting the same overview we are artalking about. he is a friend of mine and a friend of the show. n u havbeen on with him. we love him. but he wroteut this. he was involved in something called inside.com. it was one of those things that happened often in the media. being there too early. it is almost like this is the time.

meit has come of age. c >> they are all different. it is you're taking on some levels. every single one is different. the "wall street journal" did a subscription only thing. doing high-level stories. different from what we are doing and different from what nate is doing. different from what is doing. they are all experiments. we have a successful track record of making money. >> my point is different. >> i love to the insider.hing. >> it was too early. i suppose you could begin to have too many of these brand journalists out there running these operations. what we are hoping to do, and we have said this, literally have

said this to every investor we have met, and our current investors know this, we are hoping n to make this the walt and kara show. we are hoping to -- we already have a very talented staff. including in the conferences. our staff produces a couple of conferences for us. we oversee it, but the producer. -- they produce them. so we want this whole team to be thought of, trusted, -- they like it because they can be creative. we didn't lose one imply the in dash employee in the transition. >> 25 of them? >> something like that. >> we didn't lowe one person. because th enjoying themselves, being creative. >> let me go to some big stories. has this been announced yet? >> tomorrow. >> why was he the choice?

he runs the cloud operation? >> he has been there since 1992. people are doing the safe choice thing. it is a very difficult job. bringing in an outside ceo is probably too disruptive. too complicated. they call it the slow dancet th that turned into a circus. that would not work. i suspect that this guy might surprise people. >> i know you know micnosoft well, but i would like to say one quick thing about it. it is unusual. think about google, apple, facebook, microsoft, the companies that have these platforms, microsoft is different. it has the scale, about 130,000 people. it is an industrial-sized operation. it is significantly bigger than google or apple. and it has a strong market presence in enterprise and consumer.

so it is very complicated, the set of skills that you need to t the ceo. you need someone who is products-oriented, someone who can run a giant organization and cause it to try to move fast. faster than they have been able to move. >> there is no transforming the company. not all of a sudden light it on fire. >> they will announce that bill gates will be more involved? what is the definition? >> working closely. gates stepped away from microsoft in 2008 and now he is coming back in. and have much more. >> he said he would do as much or as little as they wanted him to. >> he has been active ineen philanthropy, but he wants to get back into the game. >> rather actively. he had a lot of energy. [laughter] >> facebook? >> the question for facebook is that there is a whole

monetization question that they are beginning to answer on mobile in particular. i think there is a broader qution there of, what doherey want to be next? they have a certain kind of social interaction there. it has been very successful. but there are some trhere thatha they have to worry about. young people do not spend a lot of time being active on there. >> they love instagram. >> they all love instagram. -- they own instagram. that has helped them. it is a good problem to have. >> it is the ten-year anniversary. in internet terms, that is like ur 412th anniversary. >> what mark and sheryl have done is unbelievable. in 10 years. now it is le what apple did, what microsoft did. >> what do you think about apple today?

>> that is a mossberg question. >> you say that because? steve jobs used to ve j him up? >> all the time. middle of the night. >> apple is two issues. they have a wall street issue because they are very large now. which is astonishing to those of us who remember when they were hanging on by their fingernails. they had a quarter where they sold a record number of iphones, a record number of ipads.ds and a significant increase in macs in a market where pc sales were going down. for that quarter, they were rewarded with a 10% bump in -- drop in their stock price. they have an expectations problem of wall street and other people.ople they have anr problem, which is, under the 15 years of steve ey became known for game changing innovations.

they're working on several, but so far under tim cook, the current ceo, they have not brought one out. i think this is the year when they have to bring out another game-changer. >> they are there? >> i think they have the talent, and it leads me to think that they're close. everyone is a risk. jobs has talked about that. jobs and gates together talked about that at our conference. they are a company known for taking risks. ris if 2014 ends and they haven't introduced anything, taken that risk, i would think -- >> they are in trouble. >> then you have google+. motorola. >> buying and selling. larry s an interesting executive.

i think the most interesting executive is jeff bezos right now. he someone with such a curiosity. so many interesting things he is doing. the internet of things, retail, social. talk about someone who is ever-changing. s always thinking. one of the things that we areat saying lately is that we are in the era of thomas edisons, henry fords. these are the founders of these companies and they are operating at peak level. way steved him, the jobs -- they are not the same guy at all. -- i never heard either say anything about the other. they are both curators. jeff wants to change the world. bill gates wanted ll ghange the world. steve jobs wanted to change the world. i know this sounds corny.ds

to say change the world. people who do not want to change the world, who just want to flip their company those people are , not going to change the world. but if you nt to change the world, you may fwol, but if you are smart and patient and you want to make it better, but this is not the right timing, but yob want to go despite all the obstacles, we will make much foundation, those are the kinds of people who of change the world. definitely larry. >> he is a great thinker. >> much success to this thing. it is a ready great. i wathinking of that great time, bill and steve, so much good has come out of that. you are required to come back tt the table. that is part of the deal. >> all right. it is in our contract. >hank you for joining us. see you next time. ♪

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♪ >> live from pier 3 in san francisco, welcome to the late edition of "bloomberg west," where we cover the global technology and media companies that are reshaping our world. i am emily chang. our focus is on innovation, technology, and the future of business. we are covering all angles of two major earning reports. disney, the world's largest entertainment company, posted rising revenue, up nine percent, $12.3 billion, profit rose 33%, $1.84 billion.