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united nations because the situation demands that the civilized world stand up and fight for those twha that are victims of bombs from helicopters and from missiles ired on innocent civilians and starvation to over 250,000 people trapped in places where they can't get food. >> the editor in chief of haretz daily newspaper. he is reporting on the three concerns with the middle east. the civil war, nuclear situation in iran. the peace talks in geneva have stalled and violence has scalated leading hundreds of thousands of syrian civilians to leave the country. to hey prepare a frame work

layout peace, a boycott of the jewish state. i am bleased to have you back on this -- i am pleased to have you back on this program to talk about these issues and more. you said there are four things that happened in the last year that are worthy of us sort of taking a snapshot of. >> things that we were not anticipating. the first was the rise of the ore moderate face of iran, the ensuing rein detante. after years of disconnect. then we had the deal with syria, which in fact was keeping us in power, or in power over whatever part of the country it was controlling, in return for his chemical weapons. then we had the new call for

sanctions of israeli settlement s that developed into a new conversation about boycotting israel following the death of nelson mandela and so on. which, again, was something that was really on the far fringe of the margins of the conversations just a year ago. and last but not least, we have an american secretary of state full of energy, which the israeli minister of defense obsession.essianic that may be an exaggeration -- >> it may be what it takes. >> it may be what it takes, but clearly the energy and effort that secretary kerry has put into this issue is something we haven't seen for 14 years at least. >> 14 years. >> camp david with bill clinton was july 2000, so it's almost 14 years. >> and are you making any progress? >> well, first of all, he put the issue on the table.

from the israeli standpoint, most people were like, this is , the peace process is dead and gone. clearly it is put a lot of pressure on benjamin netanyahu and his party. you have right wing parties and left wing parties who do not like the idea of giving a future to a future palestinian state. that once again recreated the conversation in israel about, should we do that? under what conditions? is kerry serious? now we know he is serious. how will the israeli-palestinian government respond? >> and can he create conditions that will put more pressure on us? >> not only that, will that actually lead to something beyond a new american document. >> exactly. right. >> you know, we've been in this -- as the saying is, we've been

in this movie before. or sequel after sequel after sequel with another american document which has very little significance. >> are you saying it has a difference now because of his energy because he's playing with so many balls in the air? >> because of several factors. because of his energy, but the energy is not enough. because of the new form of boycott on israel. >> and it's being taken seriously now? >> more than ever before. through the changes in the region. which, it is sometimes important to reeleds that across our border, dozens of people are being killed in syria. in egypt, the other border, ongoing political turmoil for he last three years, and israelis still live disconnect

from that reality on the border. but the middle east is changing. what should israel's part be in that? should we try to isolate israel from whatever is happening across the region for as long as possible, or should israel be more proactive? clearly prime minister benjamin netanyahu did a good job in keeping israel out of trouble in egypt and syria. ut now the world, kerry, europeans, and others are saying, no, now we have to play with in reaching a deal the palestinians. is he willing and able to do that? that's the biggest question of israeli politics today. >> but do people believe it is more likely now that, you know, other than that he got the conversation going when everybody was willing to say, ok, another failed mission, and we'll move on, is there somehow now because you feel a little bit of --

>> well, prime minister benjamin netanyahu enjoys unbelievable political power within israel. >> "unbelievable political power"? >> yes. >> he has a strong coalition, and if that coalition collapses over the strain of an american peace proposal, he has an alternative coalition. there are parties more than ready to get in to replace the right wingers. so benjamin netanyahu has all the cards. 6 mowerover, whatever deal benjamin netanyahu brings to the israeli public, the israeli public will accept. >> really? >> yes. on the puts his ok deal, the israeli public will accept that? >> yes. because of his experience, because people see him as the only reliable candidate to be the prime minister. >> there is something -- that's something that used to be said about shiron. >> that is different. shiron was more later in life.

he was far right for many years. >> but later. >> but once he took office he was a national father figure. netanyahu is not like that. he won re-elections but never by a landslide. and netanyahu was relying on a coalition of those that wanted to change the elite to reform israeli society, and coalition of the weak. and today he's seen as kind of irreplacable, because there is no one there to replace him. there is no contender either within his party or the coalition or the opposition. so with that unbelievable political party, netanyahu could bring any deal to the table. >> so the big question next is, what does netanyahu want? >> that's the biggest question of israeli politics. and it has been the question ever since netanyahu came out

after returning to power and for the first time uttered the words palestinian state out of his mouth. it is a good thing, as something that would be good for the future of israel. but since then, we haven't seen this israeli-palestinian state happening. since then, people are still asking themselves, was he serious? was it something he was saying to please president obama or public opinion at home, or does he really mean it? he is very, very tim id in putting out -- >> is netanyahu primarily interested in maintaining his power or is he primarily interested in how he can use his power to leave a legacy for the state of israel that will make it secure? >> that's a big question. clearly netanyahu has shown remarkable success in staying in power. the second hongest serving leader that israel has had after david benguryon, the

founder of israel. but that's not enough. and netanyahu, netanyahu is ambiguous. one day you hear him saying israel should not be a bi-national state and has to deal with over two million palestinians in the west bank. in other words, give them political rights and not be in charge of them. control them, not occupy. and the next day he's saying, all those critics of israel are anti-semiites, and that what israel should do is fort identify itself against these enemies that have been there since the holocaust and only planning to create another one, like the iranians and exextremists and so on. >> so here you are, you come to this table as one of the most astute observers of israeli politics and israeli policy, and you are saying to me, i don't know exactly what this prime minister is prepared to do?

>> well, first of all, we have -- what the al waits equation is for him? >> we haven't seen the american plan yet. >> we haven't seen the american plan, meaning we do not know what kerry is offering to all the parties? >> yeah. we have yet to see this kerry ideaias, frame work, paper, nonpaper, which ever name you would call it. but i think there is one thing we can clearly see about netanyahu, and that has been his modus operandi since taking power in the 1990's. he makes decisions only when he can show to his support base, the right wing, that he had to do it under pressure, that here was no other way. for example, when he exchanged 10 -- exchanged 1,000

israelis for one palestinian tourist, it was against his -- but he did it. the same happened with other controversial decisions that he took over the years. so the only way for netanyahu, if i judge netanyahu right, the only way for him to move forward with the kerry plan would be to show that the alternative would be worse for israel's security, for israel's foreign relations and so on. >> do you believe that? you write an opinion column. will it be worse if he does not somehow reach some kind of agreement? >> first of all, i don't think netanyahu has an otchings of just rejecting an american plan outright. i don't think the palestinian prim has this option either.

they will both try to say, "yes, but" and try to put the blame on the other side for having the bigger "but" and the smaller "yes." i don't think they have an alternative. they must take it and bring it forward. but, you know, the devils is in the details. clearly, i don't think israel has a choice. the boycott threats are becoming more and more real as time goes by. the only way out for israel is not to call its critics anti-semiites. this will get you only so far. the only way to fight the movement is by changing your policy and by making peace seriously with the palestinians. >> there's iran, and those negotiations are going on, and he never misses an opportunity to say that iran is using these alks to their own advantage.

well, you know, everybody uses talks to their advantage. i think b.b. is saying more that -- than that. i think he is saying the iranians are using the talks to fool the west and thus preserve their nuclear capabilities for the eventual breakout and for there not to be more than one very short step toward reaching nuclear military capability. >> and at the same time the missile capacity, too. >> the missile capacity, the ther weaponization components, and not only that, but receive extra legitimacy that it did not have. they have built whatever they they whatever legitimacy

have with the tucks with the west -- talks with the west. >> he thinks the west is being had? >> he thinks -- he's using all of these analogies about the 30's, and that the west is appeasing the iranians because it has become too costly. by all means, it is given carte blanche. >> and there is no reason to believe that in terms of how the president sees our involvement in afghanistan, iraq. >> not only that -- >> syria, worries about syria. something that they are refusing -- >> clearly the issue of an israeli attack on iran is now off the table. >> because they are talking. >> because they are talking, and because at the end of the day, israel is not a super power.

therefore, as reluctant as netanyahu and the israeli government might have been with the interim agreement with iran and now in talks with the final agreement with iran, there is very little they can do beyond raising the flag of a position and beyond telling the world, beware of the israelis and their intentions, and look at how syria behaves. >> not only that, but all the things that are happening there because of the islamic fundamentalists that are going there to learn and to fight as well as to take back -- >> yeah, but in a complicated middle east environment, there is a new threat, which is the suni radical, right, who are part of the syrian rebels or groups in the sinai. a couple days ago they blasted a bus at an israeli border

point, a border crossing from egypt. and, you know, they are the ennizz of iran and the prodigies of syria. and both are the enemies of israel. so the entire landscape is far more complicated than it was three or four years ago when these regimes appeared like forces of nature, had been there forever and left forever. it is far more difficult to navigate in that environment. >> and how do you think syria will end by not ending? >> well, you know, we have the example across the border in iraq. clearly these two countries created by the british and french after the first world war, you know, we're just about to cross the 100th anniversary of the agreement delineating the middle east as it is today. it is collapsing. all these artificial countries reated then by the

colonialists are collapsing. it is difficult to see syria or iraq for that matter rebuilding s a unified state. and the tragedy in syria is far worse than iraq. mainly the british are changing the landscape in jordan and lebanon. >> what impact do you think it will have in jordan? >> so far the jordanian government has been able to absorb the refugees. we see the mutual fears of the rise of iran and the turmoil in the uncertainty in american policy, and bringing them israel than they were for several years. >> and the emprathe rates -- emirates as well. >> yes.

those are the fears. >> how do you address the sunni-shia split? you have iran supporting the government of assad, as hezbollah is. e we looking at a shia-sunni conflict that could suck in or explode in the middle east and be transborder? >> this is what is happening. >> the refugees are one small example, or one large example, and people are coming across the border to fight on one side or the other. happen in iraq, and now syria is the main battleground and it could move on. this split has been going on for hundreds of years. >> but it seems worse today to me. >> it seems worse today because the central government collapsed and because the external powers have very limited influence on whatever is happening in these places. and i don't see that changing

in the near future. there is no external regional power that can just call everyone to order. and just calm it down. >> and the russians are playing a role again. >> the russians are playing a role again, mainly as the backers of syria. and a different way -- >> iran. >> yeah. >> but still, it is far away from what we remember from the previous russians. the soviet union and the cold war. >> the cold war with two super powers at that time. >> yes. but clearly, to put in it, it is one area where russia could ex its muscles and do it diplomatcally. >> and some like to speculate, like to argue that putin has a bigger and better strategy than the united states. do you see that?

>> i've heard that argument. i'm ven sure. i'm not sure. i think he's exploiting -- >> openings. >> openings, and a vacuum left from the american retreat from iraq. and the american reluctans -- reluctance to get into trble in syria. -- trouble in syria. >> and do you fear that it is not al-qaeda but al-qaeda affiliated jihadists are somehow becoming more powerful than al-qaeda ever was? >> in a way they are, because they have -- al-qaeda from 20 years ago had less control on the ground in the middle east. >> right. >> it's the first time that we see the presence of groups, whatever name you want to call them, affiliated at the heart f the middle east.

across our borders, to our intelligence, it is a new headache. again, compared to the days where you had to deal with governments, with career armies, with tanks and aircraft. now it is very -- now it is a very, very loose coalition of people willing to fight you. >> do israelis trust president obama? >> it's a tough question. you know, he made a very bad mark on israelis when he refrained from visiting israel. when he just took office and me to cairo, riyadh, turkey, and skipped israel. it appeared as if he was trying to "un-bush" american foreign policy and stay away from israel because of the association -- too much association with israel was not good for american policy. then last year he came to visit after his re-election, and he

gave a very good speech in jeruslem, which was very, very carefully balanced, you know, with one half toward the left ear of israelis, and the other half toward the right ear of israelis. everyone was happy about it. >> each side had something they could latch on to. >> since then i think that raelis once again have their -- i would say uncertainty about obama. >> i think it came at the time of asyria when he pulled back from syria. >> and not only then, even the kerry mission, obama, as i say, is leading from behind on that, too. he sends kerry to the frontline. and we don't really know to what extent he would back kerry when this proposal comes forward and they need to talk about the real tough issues. will he be as involved as bill

clinton was? or will he just send kerry and wait and see if kerry succeeds or fails? it would not be obama's failure. he's once again more distant. it would be interesting to watch his meeting with netanyahu in early march at the white house. >> thank you for coming. it is always great to see you. aluf benn, one of the wisest men who writes about politics in israel and certainly on national policy. back in a moment. stay with us. ♪

>> you said we were going to be real and we weren't going to fake it? >> i did. >> why did you not say that? >> i created edith because i needed her to survive. but i'm down done with that now. >> "american hustle" is the latest movie by david o. russell. it is a sweeping tale.

it is loosely based on the afghan scandal of the 1980's. it is nominated for 10 oscars. ere is the trailer for "american hustle." >> always take the favor over money. i think jesus said that as well. >> stay in the office. i got people working for me. my ideas. i'm running the show. i'm not going to settle. >> ♪ , it's not for me to asay. >> it was rather eelaborate. he had this confidence that drew me to him. >> my father, he taught me to believe that all people are good, and be good to all

eople. >> that is ridiculous. you know i would never say anything in front of your father, but your father is a sick son of a [beep] >> daddy is a sick son of a [beep]? >> don't rebeat peat that, but eah. >> we'll have to find a way to survive. and you knew your choices were bad, but you had to survive. >> we've been successful for so long, because we kept it just small enough. >> if you are that successful, how come you wound up in this room with me right now, taking rders from me? >> this is agent dilito.

i have $75,000 in this brief case. take it from me. >> we are going to get it right, aren't we? hat's right! >> we got to get over on all these guys. that's what we need to be thinking about right now. we've got to get over on all these guys. >> it's the most important thing we've ever done. >> joining me now, director david o. russell and bradley cooper. i am pleased to have them both back at this table. >> nice to be here, charlie. >> let's talk about this movie, "american hustle." when they brought it to you, it was already a script? >> yes, sir. >> ben affleck had looked at it and had another commitment?

>> ben is a terrific director, but he decided to make another picture named "argo." i don't know what happened to it. i think it did pretty well. >> i think it got an oscar. [laughter] >> it's terrific. >> i've known that producer since "three kings." i'm looblinging for -- looking for amazing characters, charlie, characters that are dubious and i make the story background, and the people and their emotions in the foreground. >> it is not the nuts and bolts of the scandal, but these people and their relationships. >> yes. >> whatever connection it has to the truth, then there it is. the reality of their lives? >> the bigger truth. my last picture, "silver linings play book" was based on a novel. >> these three movies you have

made some say are about rebirth, revival, something like that. do you see that? >> yes. i had to help my son get back on his feet with my bipolar. i came whack humbler from instinct. from deep down. and you tell the story from the eyes of people i saw before my eyes. the fight ir-- "the fighter, "silver linings" and this film. each one of these stories is someone who has been shattered, or laid low. i love watching people pick themselves back up, and i love what they live for. not just the predicament, but the music they love, which is duke ellington. >> so you are looking for actors? >> yes. i talk to each one. >> after you select -- are you

writing after you select your actors or before? >> it's all at the same time. >> really? >> starting with this movie, i was in christian bell's back yard, and in his back yard, jennifer lawrence, amy adams, robert deniro's house, and they inspired me to create something. then you have to wave a tapestry that can shine all five. that's a lot to do, to shine all these characters. >> that's a director i would like to work for. >> sounds good to me. >> you made him, didn't you? didn't you make his career? >> no. >> it did something for you. >> it allowed me to meet this man, number one, and develop a relationship, which is the most important thing, which is the most important thing that it did. >> a relationship of? >> number one, love and friendship. then miraculously, that was parlayed from a creative relationship, that we found each other to be like-minded in

zoo so many ways and a real love for cinema. david often talks about cinema saving his life, and i can attest to that, as many people do. our back grounds are similar. i don't know, you meet someone along your journey, and if it happens to be one of the best directors ever, then you are that much luckier. >> how do you see this character? >> he's a petulant child, base listcally. he's 15 years old, and he comes across these characters that seem larger unanimous life. he sort of gets caught up in this word. he does not have the tools to deal with the high ambitions that he has, which is to basically glore identify the f.b.i. and take down the white collar crime. it gets the better of him. you watch him go from innocence to wisdom, which is a direct reflection of -- or an inverse reflection of what christian's character does, who does the opposite. >> how was it working next to

louis c.k.? >> oh, man, it was amazing. >> and another genius. it was a stroke of genius. >> that was massive to have these two together based on a real mid western character, an f.b.i. supervisor, and there were outer borough agents who were wild, and that was all true. that chemistry to me was electric. and lewis, we came up with the shing story -- i used to ice fish. >> a little something extra. you never know. you sit across the room from somebody, and you know right away. it is a very intense in environment these movies, and you have to let it all go, have no ego, and be willing to jump. he came in with a lot of power and at the top of his game and utterly willing to play ball. he was wonderful. >> roll tape. >> i have nothing but the

utmost respect for you as a mentor. >> what are you doing? >> i just want to talk my heart out. i just want to be vulnerable. i respect you. >> i think you do other things beside respect me. >> hey, what are you doing? >> it's just hard for me to control my passion. passionate person. >> you understand this person. in the ce fishing midwest. i told you that in confidence. >> he's an ice fishing guy. look at him. >> don't do something you don't know anything about. >> i'm not going to hit you. [laughter] >> very good. [laughter] >> he is good accident isn't he? >> he's fantastic. i love surprising audiences. i saw people in the last film, "silver linings" and they come in unsettled, because they

think that's not who he is, and he has such a deep well of talent and desire that he's going to keep surprising us. he transformed in this picture. he became a transformational actor where it was almost hard to recognize him at times, which is fantastic. >> does he do a lot of directing? what does he have with actors? >> he is the definition of "director." he is directing into this place -- >> he pulls you to where he is? >> yeah, but walks with you, and allows you to feel like you are the one walking through the door first, but always being there and making sure that you are going to push yourself beyond places that you ever thought you could go, and you watch every single actor in every scene. there is no simple scene. you are walking down the street, you can't lay back on your laurms and say we'll get through this in a couple stakes. everything is high stakes, life or death, let's find the comedy , let's find the cinematic magic.

it's a great way of making movies. he never settles. >> we've seen bradley. we've seen louis c.k. what about christian bale? > what did you see in him as irving? >> he's a very singular actor who is super transformational which i think bradley is becoming. christian did it in "the fighter." you become unrecognizable. you look at a movie like "the machinist" and they don't know if it's him. it's exciting showmanship story telling, cinema. it's exhilerating. you give yourself over to the movies world and forget your

preconceptions. you walk out exhilerated. it is like taking a pill so you can reframe your brain and that is how movies have helped me in my life. >> how have movies helped you in your life? >> it's like mythology. you are going to a theater, a temple of storytelling, where you watch it at home and you have to leave what is in your head out the door and you get lost in this world. i want you to feel so intensely and emotionally that it's over and before you know it, you are moved and you have to go back and think about it that you feel exi will rated, you feel alive. you look at it a bit through the movies eyes. i did that with my favorite sin bank ma whether it was frank capra, roman polanski, scorsese.

you live in them for days. you think about them and it frames life for you a little bit. many things can do that, art can do that. >> you can create good roles for women. for y have become napalm me, starting with "the fighter" and melissa leo. unrecognizable with that air. in "seven sisters," amy adams and then jennifer lawrence and "silver linings playbook" and "american hustle." >> these are great women. >> powerful women. women who can clean your clock and away you -- in a way you never see coming. they can surprise you. and irving says to jennifer, she was the picasso of passive agressive karate. [laughter] i am in awe from the glamor to the rawness.

i said, i want to see you as raw, glamorous. >> you have a cadre of gray doctors and they are almost pushing for attention -- cadre of great actors. it moves so fast. >> it is operatic. >> i'm kidding you. >> i said that before, and they thought i was kidding. will go toe-to-toe with the operatic. what i mean by that is -- christian bale says everyone has an opera in them every day. we put it in film, and we are picking the highest moments of their life, the most intense moments of their marriage, love affair, romance, criminal story, resurrection. every character, you want to them to have a big scene. i want them to leave it on the

set. i want them to do it all. that's what i love about watching a movie. >> the task is to do it in a believable way, a real way that is grounded. that's the political for all of us because he will never settle unless he believes it's actually happening in front of the film. >> you have to believe whants what's happening. >> yes. >> or nobody does. >> tell me what happens to richy and what he was going through. he's kind of falling in love. >> he did not see that coming. he gets sidelined. you -- i kind of relate to that. you are young, and you want to hang out with the older kids, and you want to get there, it's so overwhelming. he thinks he can handle it, but he can't. he starts telling edith, amy's character, and this is the time she tells him for the first

time, her name is sidney and these from albuquerque, new mexico. he doesn't have the tools to handle that. so what does he say? you're freaking me out." > let's roll that. >> are you here with me? >> i love you. it is real now. i just said it. so now's the time. look at me. i love you. i love you. now say it back. >> you want the truth? you want real? >> i'm ready for real. >> this is the truth.

this is real. this is real. what you hear is real. this is me. >> what? what do you mean? what, are you doing an accent? an american accent? >> no, there is no english. there is only american. there is no english. >> what are you talking about? >> stop it. >> i falsified my records after -- back to birth. i falsified them. my name is sidney and i'm from albuquerque, new mexico. i'm not edith. there is no edith. >> you're freaking me out. >> all right. both of you explain the scene to me.

you started on that. we know that she has -- as part of the scam, she has a british tory line she's developed. here, he's feeling it. i love you, i love you. what did you as a director want to achieve? >> this is an interesting example of how he works, actually. let me take you through the whole thing. you want me to say it? >> yeah. >> this is a moment in the film where she has to make a turn. the whole thing is, is she onning him or is she not conning him? is she really developing feelings for him? in the moment, what has to happen for it to be real? we sat and talked about it. we had to make her really believe that there is a man in front of her telling her the truth. so she could tell the truth. and that was the last take.

>> you did not get it on the takes before that. >> it was not about the takes, but about the exploration. >> you feel like something is missing until i say, "tell her you love her. really tell her like a man." >> that was bradley as a man going -- he said it five times. "i'm in love with you. i'm in love with you. look at me. i'm in love with you." and she buckled, which she had never done. and she melted. and she reveals herself to him. >> what's his reaction to that? >> multiple things. i think we could say disoriented that she's so much stronger and can't step up and go, that was amazing and you did that and i still love you. first of all, you're smarter than me, and i don't like that, second of all, i'm sn confused, you told me before we were

being honest with each other. so he can't take rights in front of him. >> wait a minute, everything that happened at studio 54 is not real. now i'm scared. like she was ready on that moment, so it's bad timing. >> for me it's about the fragility of the moment. every one of us construct an identity that we must reckon with and change. >> that brings me back to your son being defined as bipolar. so what did you go through for like eight years? you can call it the willederness, but there was self-doubt? >> yes, a lot of self-doubt, and a lot of too much over-thinking things, and fear. >> fear of? fear of not ilure, knowing performing in major league baseball. it's a high-intensity arena to

make cinema that matters and that people can relate to. i started to go sideways a little bit. >> what does going sideways mean? >> i wrote movies that never got made, movies that were not true to my core. darren aronofsky greeted me and said, look what happened to you. i said, i got my head out of my [beep] it can happen to anyone at any time of their life. it is humbling realize zation to say you are never going back there and you will mean it in the heart. that's what happened to me. writing movies, one with vince vaughn that never got made. you think you cannot go any wmplet i wrote a sat ire with al gore's daughter that was not even completed due to money shutdowns. we had nothing to do with it. it was very strange. you think, wow, it can't get

any worse than this. you come back really grateful. if you want this job, show me you really mean it. it's just like "it's a wonderful life." yes, i'm ready to live. give me another chance. >> did god say i love you, i love you, i really love you? [laughter] >> that's beautiful. i want god to say that to me every day. i have to say that to him every day, if you really want to get deep about it. people will say, you got serious on -- deep on "charlie ose" but i'm not ashamed to do it. nor am i ashamed to have you do it. [laughter] > that's television. >> god bless you. >> you changed the ending a bit for one of the characters.

it was kind of dark, and you said, no she lives, because she's come to be an interesting character. >> i think reinvention is the theme that interests me more. all these people were re-invented. i watched the video his grandson made about him and told him what a great man he was. his grandson made a video that's on youtube that's beautiful and heartbreaking. in real life, when hees he's an old man. >> i think i saw that. >> like somebody in new jersey told me. i'm curious. >> chris matthews knows all those guys. so the f.b.i. loved him. the irving character loved him. it's one of the beautiful things. >> look what they did to him, they put him in prison. that's love isn't it? >> unfortunately. they felt great heartbreak about it. you were asking me about the

women and the transformation. the jennifer character is the wife of irving. many people did transform from this and were reborn. her character struggled for a couple years in real live and had a saddeneding and an unstable ending, and i've known people who have committed suicide and people who have attempted suicide. >> did you think about suicide at your worst? >> yes, i have. i remember at the beginning of my career when i was first starting to write stories. i was staying at my parents -- i and i was first called some guy from my high school, and he said it was ally bad and he handed me my rear, and it was terrible. it means you can look anybody in the eye and stay just have a nice italian meal and listen to ome duke ellington, life's not so bad. so jennifer is such a spirit of life. we had where they were going to put the rope and everything for

her, and i thought, it just feels wrong. >> tell me how you've seen him grow as an agent actor. >> very exciting to me. i've seen him with amy adams, i've had the privilege to see him with jennifer lawrence, examine all of the people. it's just very exciting to see someone, look in their eyes, see their soulfulness and know that they are fearless. watch them go there together, make it real, take chances. christian bail -- bale would say, we love what we call the nonsense, the behavior that we both love, that we both talk about endlessly and to see him transform and dive into emotions and -- in hairpin turns of a character, you have a clip here where he does a hairpin turn where i see his realness and agility bloss onlying -- blossoming.

can we kill the fluorescence? i thought it would be better for you. people hang themselves, but you are too smart for that. where's the table and chairs? there's no bed in here? is everybody off today? jesus christ. maybe we want to -- maybe i wanted to scare you. it was my idea. i'm a little off the beaten path. who you are is who you are between you and god. that's what matters. that's what i'm about. tell me you didn't feel it the first time we saw each other. am i crazy? i don't think so. i'm not supposed to be talking like this, but i don't care about the rules. edith, i want to help you. i like you. i like you. >> is this the best time of your life? >> yes. >> because you get the

opportunity to do the things that you are trained to do, things that you love, work with people you admire? > yes. >> what have you done that enables you to be in this place? willing to get touth out there, do roles, and work, and work, and work? >> i don't know, charlie. i cannot really believe the reality of my life lately. i don't know. i really don't know the answer to that. i know that i feel very happy that i'm comfortable in this place. i'm comfortable when a man like this asks me to go on a journey with him and say i would give him everything i have. i feel like i can do that. that's a really calming feeling to be able to enter into these situations with a steady heart. it's wonderful as opposed to feeling something else. i truly don't know, you know? i just want to enjoy it. i just want to enjoy it, charlie.

i just want to enjoy being here with you. that's it. >> keep it simple. > you too. >> pleasure and an honor. >> thank you. >> i wish you much success at the oscars. thank you, and thanks for joining us. ♪ >> live from pier 3 in san

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