>> from our studios in new york, this is "charlie rose." >> the search continues for malaysia airlines boeing 777 that went missing on saturday. the time of this taping there remains no clues about what happened.

or, where it might be today. malaysian authorities have announced that after the plane stopped communicating with ground control, it changed course. two iranian men on the flight were traveling with stolen european passports that initially led to fears of terrorism. that possibility has not been ruled out, interpol says that it is unlikely. naval vessels and planes from around the world continue to search the sees. -- seas. joining me from washington, bob orr, the justice and homeland security correspondent for cbs news. from boston, dave gallo. the oceanographer who led the successful search for the record air france flight 447 in 2009. thank you for joining us. let me begin with the obvious question. what do we know at this time about flight 370? >> it is amazing. four days after the plane disappeared, we do not know where it is, and we do not know what happened to the plane. we have conflicting information and not very many facts to go with that. we haven't found the wreckage .

we do not have the plane's black box. we're are working on the intel side. the u.s. intelligence agencies around the world have taken a look at the passenger manifest list. they do not see any potential ties to terror there. we have a missing airplane and we can't say whether or not it crashed because of mechanical failure or sabotage, maybe a bomb. we just do not know. >> it is unlikely some people suggest it was a bomb because there was not a scattering of wreckage. >> that is right. we have seen in past crashes, it hold in theunched a cargo. it spread debris about an 80 mile swath. here we have all of these ships scouring the gulf of thailand. we do not see one shred of debris. that tells me they are looking

in the wrong place, or the plane did not, part. it hit the water in tax. -- intact. >> what would make of the report that the malaysian military, the last time the flight was seen, it was 100 miles off course and traveling to the opposite direction? >> it doesn't make any sense. they lost the planet 35,000 feet. plane,nsponder on the the device that tells the controllers how high you are, where it is going, they stop sending messages. all communication was lost. the military says after that happens, we have seen so-called primary echoes on military radar. -- blips,st blitz

moving away from the scene. the military doesn't know exactly what those were. they may have been false echoes. they can't take any chances. now they have expanded the search area. >> you and i talked about this on sunday. the idea that you would assume a pilot would send out some kind of distress signal if there was a mechanical or other possibility. >> in a perfect world, he would tell the controllers and his home dispatch what he is up against. pilots fly by a strict discipline. you a v-8, navigate, and then you communicate. if you are at 35,000 feet and you have a couple hundred people behind you, and something breaks or a system fails, the first thing you want to do is get control of the situation continued to fly the airplane. don't become fixated on the problem. it may not be as serious as you think it is.

you have got to fly the airplane first. once you have regained control, or have taken care of the tell people what is happening. it sounds counterintuitive. soething was so sudden, cataclysmic, they had their hands flood do not have time to tell us what time -- what went wrong. assessmentll me your , having looked and talked and made your own analysis. france 447 was going to one of the most difficult cases. this is becoming one of the most mysterious searches of all time. exactlytracking almost like air france 447. a lot of false leads. the one thing we had on 447 was we were sure of the last known position. that is what we had here. now there is some question about whether this military radar

solve the plane or not. if you do not have that, it is a long way from being solved. >> what makes sense to you? >> what doesn't make sense is that -- we're missing an aircraft with 239 people onboard. where is it? how do you lose a plane? 447, thousands of miles from the nearest port. this is in a highly trafficked area. how do you lose an aircraft in that place? --heard earlier that may be but there is not a shred of evidence that plan ever landed on the water. bestsed on what i know, my scenario is what? >> we are stumped. i talked to my other leaders this morning. we are scratching our heads. commandsorry for the

center that is taking in this information. i'm sure they have had sleepless nights. the criticism is growing. it is a horrible situation to be in. people are wondering if they know what they are doing or not. they need confidence of the public now. we do not have any other clue. what we would normally do is start with the last known position. you have to figure out x marks the spot. you do that with a combination of last known position and whatever you find on the surface. that is missing in this case. all you have to go on is that last known position from radar. >> frustration from people saying we have walked every trail, and they in nowhere. >> absolutely. they flat-out say this is the most mystifying one they have seen so far. in the past we have had a lot of questions about flights.

bomb, or a missile, or an explosion. air france was a very tough on. deepwater, remote area. in this one, the facts that have been presented do not make sense. it leads me to believe that either we do not have all of the ts.rect facr we do not know everything there is to know. the organ i can conclude is for days inn, the absence of any i think we must just be looking in the wrong spot. that is hard to reconcile with the last known position on radar. you have gaps in the radar coverage. it is possible the plane transponder failed and continued in a dead zone. as the search expands, we will find it. i don't know when. >> what is the latest on the passport investigations? and what they are uncovering.

the reports that we get that so far it does not lead to terrorism. what are they finding out about passengers and the pilot? >> there were two gentlemen on the plane who turned out to be , who pay for safe passage to europe. middleman to buy the tickets for this flight. then they were planning to go on to europe. u.s. authorities are fairly confident that these men were seeking asylum. they were not terrorists. the do not have -- they do not believe they have any role in the plane's disappearance. all of those people, until they can be cleared, it is hard to say, are suspects to a degree. they're are looking for derogatory information. have been told,

they have not found anything so far that shows suspect linked. there is one group, the chinese martyrs brigade, who took credit for taking the plane down. u.s. intelligence dismissed that as a hoax. >> but will take because of this? what will change because of this? >> i was hoping after air france 447, this went on for two years. waiting for some sort of resolution. we have to do better at being able to track planes. better with the cockpit voice recorder, black boxes, to locate those. those are the only witness to the event. the surest way to do that is to find those things. two years have passed. there is not a rapid response.

take the ocean seriously at all. we are hardly equipped to respond rapidly. especially in the gulf of thailand. we are talking to .5 miles. serious technology to search at those depths. we had to get more serious about the oceans and being able to explore. a lot more serious about being able to track these planes before they impact the ocean. >> who is directing the search? the malaysians? >> this is a malaysian investigation. that is a sensitive point. the u.s. and brits have sent help. we have at the eye agents -- fbi agents. they are waiting to be placed in the investigation. pride,int of national they have pretty much said they

will call you if they need you. i think there is a lot of expertise around the world with these crash labs and investigators who were willing to help. they have to be asked in. >> thank you. colleague, thank you as well. ♪ >> robert wagner is here. he began his career before the golden age ended in the late 1940's. he had inside view of that period. you must remember this." it is a pleasure to see you. 84.ou look -- yourself?are of >> i try to keep it together. i do some stretches and a few weights. i swim a bit.

>> eat well? >> yeah. not as much. >> this book is about a hollywood that you knew. tommy about it. >> i work with a lot of young people. they always ask me about what it was like. what was it like being able in the contract system. i tell them. universal had 40 young people under contract. columbia had 20. every studio had a young contract players list. we were all anxious, eager to get into the movies. today, that is not possible. you are a young actor today, you have to go out and get an acting coach. get a manager, try to get a part

and a picture. >> being gauged by social media. for youngifferent people today starting their career. i was lucky. i caught it. that is what i wrote about. it was the most thrilling time in my life. that is what i try to put in. >> dinner with sinatra in which he is cooking. [laughter] >> that was nice. my hope is that the people that read this book will be as thrilled as i was when i did. >> you meet a point, these , at men in that time columbia. darrell zana. loved, lovedved,

the movies. and cared about movies they wanted to see. >> they put their names on it. they had a passion for it. they cared for it. they gambled. they took great risks. maybe the picture would make that much money at that moment. over time, it would return its costs. they didn't have so much pressure for the quarterly .arnings if ahing that happens now, picture grosses a tremendous amount of money, it doesn't move the needle on the stock market. nothing. it is some subsidiary of some big company. million, --kes $500 >> sony owns columbia. idea for the actor at the

time, the studio system was good but you didn't have the freedom. >> you had freedom. we had more freedom. we could -- hubbell a city wise? >> the roles you could accept. >> no. they have the idea of what would be right for me. >> how did you get a start? >> i got a start at 20th century fox. take on $55. i was in the movies. i was making tests with the girls that came in. i did marilyn monroe's test. i was the test boy. i just wanted to get in front of the camera and figure out how it works. so, i started their. -- there. they had a tremendous fan

magazine department. i did a film called "a song in my heart." it was with susan hayward. the people, when they walked out of the theater, said who was that guy? that is what happened. that will happen. they will wonder who he was. that will start you. he did meet him g.m.. mgm. he said, i will check it out. it didn't work. i went there and met the coaches. they had other people in mind. studioou were a contract, would they give you acting lessons?

>> you could do anything. they had coaches. they had been saying. sensinfencing. they could teach you anything you wanted. >> hollywood was a small town. >> it was. >> you would go to the grocery store yourself. you have to be worried about paparazzi. >> it was protected. you could go shopping. do anything you wanted. people were kind. they like to see you. orwas a thrill to see an act who was in a movie. it wasn't like it is now. they are all over you and try to photographre, sell a to get money for it. it is a different kind. listen, -- >> you are an image for them. >> these guys that are on fire,

like brad pitt or angelina jolie, they can't go out of their house without having protection and people getting back and protecting their kids. it is tough. it tremendous invasion. >> george clooney, for example. >> he is good. . , he gives himguy his space. but he will give them a picture. >> he handles it really well. >> you can't do this. that is the picture they will print. >> i guess you can't. i don't know. i don't have that kind of rush on me. a man like george clooney, he is exposed. i think he probably does have a difficult time getting people out of his ways that he can have his talent.

>> if you had to live your life over what would you do different? go into another business? >> i'm not sure if i would. this is what i always wanted to do. this business has been absolutely wonderful. i have worked for 65 years. i just finished in c i s -- ncis. they write great stuff for me. i am working at 84 years old. come on. it is great. [laughter] >> i want to be you. >> i want to be you. [laughter] >> they treat me like royalty. >> they should. i love what i do. i love it. >> but? >> i am not sure with all of this that happens now. we are all fair game. everybody has a camera.

everybody can get you on the internet saying anything they want about you. you don't have any recourse about it. >> you have a tragedy they never let it go. you have had to come to grips i love this saying woman, she was my dream. i know it is a mystery for you. >> that is it. that is the fact. it is not everywhere. that is the truth. shehen you were there, was who everybody wanted to be? natalie? as a young star. what everybody wanted to be. a young star, who was becoming huge. >> she started off as a child actor. at five years old she was

playing with orson welles. >> i didn't know that. >> they died her hair blonde. five years old. .he had a gift a god-given gift. she was able to make that crossover. she really did some wonderful work. she did great pictures. >> everybody [indiscernible] hase is never anybody who had exactly what he had in terms of roles. >> he created it. also, those scripts. withdynamic that went on philadelphia story and that kind of thing. that doesn't happen anymore.

>> mr. smith goes to washington. do you wish you had spent more time learning the business? >> i learned a whole business. those guys are very special. warren is a very talented man. >> he is back making a new film. >> and george clooney. >> clint eastwood. >> look at his career. i never had that chance to direct. >> they don't just give you the chance. >> i did some directing on tv. i was in t foley -- i was in tv for 15 years. i had a great run.

that direction. it was wonderful for me. i put my kids through school. me,ou seem also to be for what do i know? you seem to be part of hollywood royalty. all the network executives and those people like your social company as well. yes? >> yes. >> you have had a place there because they have been there for a while, but you are part of the community, and you saw them at dinner. you were guy they like because you were smart, attractive, had a great family. >> i think so. i hope so. i think that helps. content is important. a lot of the people that are running the studios and

conglomerates, they are not so interested in the material. people we were talking about. beatty, clooney, contents. clint is driven by that. >> on the cover of the book, i have had the good fortune to be here more than one day. [laughter] i have met lots of people that you know. this is -- tell me about your 10 favorite interviews. she is on the list. >> she is a great interview. she is so real. i like her very much. i worked with her. i was so excited. >> people like victoria.

>> very special. that picture was taken when she came to los angeles after doing "boy on a dolphin." they did a picture. >> the man on the right is you. >> it is cropped. inside, it is him. >> tell me about marilyn monroe. >> she was such a beautiful lady. >> she was troubled. >> yes. she was troubled. very troubled. everybody wanted to get to her. i knew her when she was a model, doing covers. >> you did? go on a modeling job. .he would walk in my daughter's mother was a

model. when maryland came in, they knew she had it. she was so nice. she was just a terrific lady. that.her on and off after she couldn't have been nicer. >> a great picture of you and sinatra. >> that was natalie's 21st birthday party. gave her that party. it was a great time. great. >> a consummate entertainer. >> he was so generous to me. he did me places. took me places. just a fabulous guy. >> you knew phil watson. >> he was influential. he put me in television. >> he owned universal.

>> i think this character for a thief."akes you can make the cross between movies and going into television. he said, i want you to do it. if it doesn't work out i will make a movie out of it for you. i said, ok. series and it hit over the wall. known overi became the world. >> that series was in syndication all around the world. it had international flavor. >> we did a lot of them. astaire came on that. >> i know. >> i played his son. he was the thief. >> here is what would trouble me if i was you in that.

too little have control over your career. everybody else was deciding what. -- what bob wagner was going to do. >> they make good decisions. >> yes, they did. >> they were out for me for the best. they weren't trying to put me in something that -- >> you trusted their judgment. >> absolutely. it was like a family. dothey said, listen, you can this, we will do that for you. we will make you look right. it is a crapshoot anyway. lex take it back. take it back. you said you might have got into the business. with that have been an exciting? >> i don't think so.

i had an option to follow my father-in-law. i went back east for a while. i wanted to be in the movies. i was fascinated by movies. i'm sitting there in the theater and saying, how do they do that? it was great. then to see them in person, my. my whole career, i have never been disappointed in someone i have met. cary was sensational. >> nobody? >> nobody. there he lucky. >> how many people did you meet? >> lots. i mean that, truly. them. admire they were generous to me. i just got to tell you, i was so

thrilled to be a part of this. it was everything to me. it meant everything. >> how is jill? >> she is wonderful. she is great. been --has >> wonderful. >> a lucky break for mr. wagner. >> i really didn't think i was going to land a wife again. after natalie died, it was difficult. a rupturing time for all of us, my whole family. life, sheame into my had her hand under my elbow holding me up. >> it was devastating for you be on the loss of your wife. a suspicion and everything. well, we didn't.

but nobody will ever know? >> i don't think so. when something like that happens , nobody sees what happened, nobody saw what happened to her. she was just gone. is an openappens, it situation. ideas, that she slipped on the step. >> by beating the guy came forward several years ago? -- why do think that guy came forward several years ago? >> it is transparent. he had written a book. he wanted to get published the -- he wanted to get published city. it was all hearsay.

it wasn't true. there were so many people that were involved when this accident happens. so many people that were on top of that. there is no way that it could have a verb -- could have ever been anything that happened. >> people would have made a career if they could have figured it out. >> absolutely. that was a tragic thing that happened. it was upsetting for our family. for our girls. >> did you have a relationship with chris? i didn't. i never really knew him. i met him obviously. i never knew him. i think he is a nice guy. talented. very talented. he is a gentleman.

don't see him because i live in california. he is back here. we were in a movie together which was never released. downsed him when he came when we were shooting. he came in. i have seen them a few times. >> he ever talked about him? >> we talk about it. i never had a discussion about it. he was there at the services. up, as we all were . we were all devastated. >> do you still go out on boats? up the boat. , oure the note that we had

boat, i gave that to the sea scouts in her name. i had it for a number of years. somebody bought it and put the name back on it and turned into the cocktail boat that natalie wood died on. >> eating them a speed devastating, -- the thing that must be devastating, she was your wife to read -- your wife. people will always be asking something that goes not to the heart of how remarkable she was, but the circumstances. like she was a remarkable lady. >> is there anything you would like to do you haven't done? >> i have done a lot of things. i have been involved in a lot. ranch. it when i had my raising my horses. >> you don't do that.

>> i had to give it up. >> you like being out there. you and the horses. >> i loved it. all work out ok for me. .> i feel the same way so many people who know you, they cherish the friendship. you are a classy guy. i thank you for coming. >> thank you for having me. ♪

>> jane fonda is here. she has lived many lives over her career. oscar-winning actor. philanthropist. best-selling author. developed -- devoted her time to her passion for teen health. her book is called " being a teen." i am pleased to have her at this table. >> good to be here. >> why this for you? >> i have a soft spot in my heart for adolescents. >> why? >> they are hard to love. it is easy to love kids. adolescents are prickly. i had a prickly adolescents.

i am privileged. if it was hard for me, imagine for kids that have less opportunity and. -- opportunity. i ran a children's camp in california. i started non-profits. the jane fonda center for reproductive health. >> you should have been a doctor. >> parts of me are attracted to that. for a long time, it wasn't even considered a unique stage of human development. there was childhood and adulthood. now we know that it is a very specific stage of life. it is a gateway to adulthood. the young person moves from a concrete thinking to abstract thinking, and begins to develop values, identity, and they need a lot of answers and guidance.

quietness dekes -- >> why the somervell and some don't? >> it is hard to be 18. -- a teen. for boys in particular, you have this testosterone. the hormone that is sexy, aggressive. this is coursing through their body at a time when there brain is under construction, especially the prefrontal cortex. it is like putting jet fuel in a t ford. mature untilsn't 23 years old or 24 years old. is a lot of pressure for boys and girls. they need guidance, boundaries. yet they give off this vibe to parents that you are just an old fogey. but they want them.

>> one of the things you said in answering the question of what were your great fear is as an adolescent, i didn't know where to get answers. that is true. >> they don't know. parents are scared to talk about things and don't know where to begin. a lot of people when interviewing -- obviously they are grown-ups. i learn things that i didn't know. this is going to help me now to talk to my team. >> could you talk to your dad? >> iq getting -- are you kidding? you knew my dad. >> that is a leading question. >> i couldn't talk to my mother either. >> you turn out all right. hard to turn out all right. it took a long time. >> did you do for this booklet to differ the other books. you talk to everybody you could, then put it together and try to make it through the prism of

your own clarity? yearse spent close to 30 close to teenagers. in california and in georgia. i talked to groups of girls. i organize groups of boys. i talked to adults about teens. i know a lot from my personal experience how much misinformation there is. how valuable good information is to them. who was your father, admired. you said that he objective five you. >> there are a lot of books about the changing body. i wanted to write a book that was more holistic. the talks about the developing identity. how to manage media messages. the messages that tell boys

don't be sissies. though ask for directions. the top. don't show your emotions. don't respect girls. tell girls, don't be angry. be a pleaser. >> you want to break through that. >> all the things that didn't exist when i was 18. -- a teen. it is hard for kids. >> you have talked about aging. be 20 years old again. would you want to? >> i could not think of an amount of money that would maybe want to go back. >> is that right? even if you had insight? >> if i could go back knowing what i know now? i'd love to be able to do it over again. never the way i was. to struggle to get where you are. >> i have that a lot of work. >> because you have faced up every time.

have two qualities. authenticity or you do what you think you should do. you are true to yourself. i don't want to go back to roger. >> i have learned to be authentic. work to becomes who you are suppose to be. the t.s. eliot quote. exploring,our life and at the end of your explorations you arrive back where you started. if i could go back and know it, really know it, i would like to go back. >> you said you would never want to be 20 years old again. >> not the way i was when i was 20 years old. if i could take my wisdom back with me, i wouldn't mind having it to do over again with smarts. i was not a parent that knew this when i was -- when my kids

were teens. i can't pretend. >> you made mistakes. >> yes i did. i was too late talking to them. i didn't know how to be an approachable parent. starting quite early. i didn't know how to listen and not be judgmental. >> is it different for boys? >> it is very different. >> because of the things you suggested? >> one dollar young, five or six years old, the pressure on you to stand up and don't be a sissy. don't be a mama's boy. then you shut down. you bifurcate. that is all you know. boys think that is just the way it is. girls don't start -- they have a whole decade before them of who says?

and wrestling, and being feisty. that is why girls and women tend to be more agents of change. you don't have to start so deep. bywe are so influenced peers. >> we talk a lot about that. >> one of the things that i want to say, they're going the parents watching the show. it is a good idea to ask your children what kind of a person you want to be. everyone wants to say what you want to be when you grow up. what you want to do. what kind of person do you want to be? what kind of values. then write them down. when you write them down it becomes much more cognitive. ,> someone i know once said think about the end of your life. look ahead. what would you like to be in that, and have people say about you?

who would you like to be as human being? try to become that person. >> he goes back to the peer pressure. arethe kids that you hanging out with encouraging you in that direction, or are they keeping you from and the person you want to be? it is this time when we have to make young adolescents conscience of their development of identity. all the questions that make them not what they want to be. >> i've never understood this. aknow people have said to me, child became the man, shape to they became. shaped what they became. at the same time, i don't know how. can you look back and say i am jane fonda today because of these events?

these relationships? me to do that.r >> i am the jane fonda i am today because i have looked back on all of those things, and understood them from a distance. >> with the help of professionals. >> with the help of therapy, a live review. memoirs, to go back and look at your life, and understand why they were the way they were, why they raised to the way they did. you find out it had nothing to do with you. you are ok and lovable. they had their own issues. >> once you find that out you have -- you can look at life much better. there was a point where you said that three years ago, the happiest you had ever been,

because you gone through the process. because you had done such an introspective look at your life. you found happiness. >> that's right. >> it's a sad thing. people don't look at their life until they are sick and then worry about losing it. you have had a -- you have been fortunate. they never have the kind of events that lead them to look at themselves, because they never think about that much. all those events that come rushing their way. >> that is why i wrote it the way i did. to try to encourage people to think about, how do you know where you are going if you do not know where you have been? --you have seen a live

received a lifetime achievement award. >> i'm so excited. a burst into tears when i was told i was going to receive that. >> it means so much to you because it is a recognition of a lifetime of work. >> i left my profession for 15 years. backact that i could come and be welcomed back, and now honored in that way makes -- means a tremendous amount to me. i thought i would always be the bridesmaid and never the bride. bette davis asked me to host her award. my dad. now it is me. >> i hear incredible stories about him. >> look at his movies. relationships. >> i think my dad had an affair with her. i hope it is true. >> everybody is always talk

about how smart she was. independent, smart. marching to her own agenda. comfortable in her own skin. >> i hope that is true. whyhat is it you would -- does it mean so much? it is a profession has welcomed you back. it is how it has taken so many years of your life, or given so many years of your life. your industry opens its arms to you and that kind of way , all these people you have or, it is just wonderful. >> your ultimate wisdom about growing old?

>> stay active. stay curious. it is more interested in -- it is more important to be interested. stay active. >> no one does that more than you. lex i don't think so. i learned stuff every day. >> this book is called being 18, everything teen boys and girls should know about relationships, about sex, about love, about health, and more. look at the tragic examples of where your pressure, where there on the internet, the most tragic consequences. because of their desperate need to be liked, to feel that you part of thehow community. chapters my favorite is about sexual identity. sexual orientation.

thateally proud of chapter. it is the best one i have read. for teens. >> how to come to grips with your sexual identity. -- ho happens? >> it is for adolescent reproductive health. to knowop curricula what a healthy relationship looks like. some curricula directed exclusively to boys. violence, forng example. it is a fabulous place. >> thank you for coming. >> thank you for having me. a teen." ♪

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