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>> welcome to "lunch money" where we tie together the best stories and interviews. i am matt miller in for adam johnson. russia gets bigger. president putin formalizes the annexation of crimea. talk to the hand. how barclays midst is chance to get in on the alibaba ipo. and one issue that gets mark zuckerberg really fired up. he is going to have to talk to the president about it today. robots in motion. find out how these machines help to film the amazing movie "gravity."
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and inside fendi, the family growing the 90-year-old fashion brand. we are going to kick off with what everyone is talking about today, a special day for the wonderful world of microblogging. >> we want to help celebrate the birthday of twitter. the site first launched eight years ago today. >> i am sure you have seen it all over, the company turns eight today after going public in november last year, they now have a $28 billion market cap and over 240 million viewers. not bad. hundreds of millions of viewers continue to flock to twitter every month to experience moments in their lives and moments in the world. >> if only somebody could come up with a meaningful way to wish twitter a happy birthday. >> turkey has blocked access to twitter.
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the prime minister said that they removed tweets related to a government corruption scandal. this comes before crucial elections in turkey. >> the prime minister says he will wipe out twitter and dig it up by its roots. that is not a very nice way to say happy birthday. erdogan shutdown down the service after he said they did not follow court orders to remove content related to his investigations. he says it is a leak by his political foes and foreign forces to undermine him ahead of elections on march 30. sounds like a real loser. the leader of the opposition party is turkey's president, and he came out against the ban on twitter. he wrote in turkish, one cannot condone the closure of social media platforms and that the ban is unacceptable. of course he would say that, he is in the opposition party. they did call the ban a cowardly act of censorship.
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the prime minister remains unapologetic, saying he does not care what the international community thinks. he has also threatened to block facebook and youtube, where users have shared them, including videos and transcripts first leaked on twitter, some of them tied to the corruption investigation, which has cost that we are cabinet ministers their jobs. to think, turkey was once a sure ring jewel of emerging market investment. >> turkey signifies what has gone wrong with emerging markets. this was a star performer of the last decade and now you have a leader out there, after been that being in power for more than a decade, run one of the largest current account deficits in the market, and have tacked on a lot of domestic debt over the last five years. really, turkey has the perfect storm. >> not just investors, the public has not been thrilled about it. go back to last summer when
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protesters occupied a public where. a violent addiction led to more protests. 11 people were killed. more than a thousand injured. one of the injured was a teenager struck by a tear gas canister. he never regained consciousness and died last week. that spark even more protests, which brings us to today. twitter has taken the course, telling users in turkey to tweet via text, instead of through the internet. from turkey to russia, where president putin is getting onto a criticism but also support or his move on crimea, and a nation, facebook and other tech cheese talk about u.s. intelligence gathering in washington. all fun and games for michelle obama on her first day in china. she tried calligraphy and made a visit to a beijing high school. the wife of china's president showed her how it was done with
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streaming on bloomberg television, your phone, anywhere you can get internet basically. russia gets bigger, vladimir putin formalizes the annexation of crimea today after the signing ceremony. he said i want to congratulate you, all the residents of the country, the citizens of the russian federation, residents of crimea, on this momentous event. well, it did not go over well in brussels. >> we strongly condemn the referendum in crimea. we will not recognize the annexation, nor will we recognize it in the future. there is no place for the use of force and coercion to change borders on the european continent in the 21st century. >> that was the president of the european union in brussels, with the leaders of all european countries, including ukraine. of course, no concern for throwing out the in the
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chronically elected president a electedemocratically president a few weeks before. the eu is strengthening its bond with ukraine and its new president in a deal allotting the two more closely. his is the deal that the people wanted all along, but then president viktor yanukovych had opted for a deal to russia. then he was violently expelled. here we are today. >> this is the historic day from my country and we believe this is the historic day for the entire europe. we want to be a part of big european family. this is the first tremendous step in order to achieve for ukraine its ultimate goal as a full-fledged membership. my country faces a number of challenges both economic, political, and military. signing these treaties, we will show to the world that we are
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together, that ukraine shares european values, and we can be successful together. >> the eu is not stopping. the leaders have backed additional sanctions on russian leaders levied by the u.s. yesterday. >> we are imposing sanctions on more senior officials of the russian government. in addition, we are today sanctioning a number of other individuals with substantial resources and influence who provide material support to the russian leadership, as well as a bank that provides material support to these individuals. >> there has been a lot of comparisons to the return of the cold war between the u.s. and russia, the chilly relations are familiar to those of us old enough to remember, but even president obama did not see this coming. >> i am glad you recognize al qaeda is a threat because a few months ago when you were asked what is the biggest geopolitical threat facing america, you said russia, not al qaeda. the 1980's are now calling back for their foreign policy because the cold war has been over for
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20 years. >> that cannot be comfortable for the president to watch again, but let's look at the facts. >> it has a powerful military and is boosting defense spending, doubled since 2007, but that is still dwarfed by the $582 billion that the u.s. spent. russia is barely in the top 10, even with its 11 million barrels a day of oil production. and the russian economy was slowing even before this crisis. now there is a risk the real stagnation for the russian economy, and the geopolitical stakes are also different. the u.s. may think putin was wrong to move into crimea, but he did it because he feels threatened. he does not want to dominate the world but he sees nato expansion on his doorstep, a growing european union. he is acting out of fear here, imagined or real. even if he wanted to build the old empire, it will not happen with the economy.
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>> here is another take from the head of the council of foreign relations. >> the cold war cannot restart. it is not a good analogy. rush is not the soviet union, it does not have global reach. it is not a question of yes. it is a country of 143 million people. it's military can only have an impact in limited space. it's one principal lever is energy, and we can offset that, if we open up american exports of oil and gas. i do not find the cold war discussion to be helpful. that said, what russia is doing is destabilizing, and we ought to figure out ways of meeting it along the lines of what we are doing with economic sanctions. >> while we do that, vladimir putin will take over small countries on his doorstep. what about the bigger picture, what does this say about the future of russia?
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>> russia intimidation and infiltration, soldiers wearing irregular uniforms. the choice they were given was extraordinarily narrow. there was no provocation. it is not as if you had systematic repression of the russian people living in crimea. if there had been such a case, and if people had taken legally through public lyrical channels, the world may have agreed at some point to some form of crimean separatism or autonomy, or what have you. this was not the case. his was mr. putin acting in retaliation, if you will, for what happened in kiev, to buttress his own political position at home, but nobody should kid themselves. this is not about political self-determination or anything else. >> would you support the expulsion of the democratically elected government in kiev that happened a few weeks before, along with a murder that was committed to achieve that? >> you had a situation where the prime minister was ousted. that was simply a fact, whether
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we supported it or not. it is unfortunate that things got to that point. all you can do in those situations is get our legitimate political process back on track. >> as long as it serves our interests. coming up, we go to another part of the world, china. dreamworks is opening up a $2.5 billion complex. we will hear from the ceo, jeffrey katzenberg. and barclays missing out on hundreds of millions of dollars. we would tell you why it is a serious grudge. ♪
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>> this is "lunch money" on bloomberg television. i am matt miller in for adam johnson on this friday. barclays is missing out on hundreds of millions of dollars from alibaba's ipo deal. it looks like the investment bank simply backed the wrong billionaire. jeff mccracken, our managing editor, explains. >> not a dispute last year but a contest, if you will, to get sprint. softbank is one of the large holders in alibaba.
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he has exerted pressure and have cap barclays away from the ipo. this is the largest since facebook, and could even be bigger. it kind of depends on your perspective. the way he sees it, they were blocked out completely by him. the problem here is not only have you alienated softbank, you have probably alienated alibaba. it is a chance that softbank and sprint together could do the deal with t-mobile that we have been discussing for so long. that is another situation they will likely be locked out of. >> hollywood film studios, dreamworks animation, pushing into mainland china. breaking ground on a $2.5 billion entertainment and movie complex in shanghai.
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it will have 400 animators working there by the end of next year. we caught up with jeff katzenberg at the launch. >> we have come here because we think there is an opportunity to build a world-class animation studio. we are making movies here in china for china, for export to the rest of the world. in order for it to be export, it needs to be of the highest quality. this is within less than a handful of years, going to be the number one movie market in the world. we think it is a great center for us to attract great artists here in china. we think it can be a world-class competitive studio. >> i have spoken to some beijing 3d conversion houses pitching to hollywood studios. they say they could do the job for about 1/10 of what hollywood can do. are you seeing that? >> no, ours is a very unique, a very high-end type of artist.
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it takes a tremendous amount of training, many years. the sophistication and knowledge in order to be able to animate using state-of-the-art tools that we have, there is nothing inexpensive about it. it is not really a big cost differential between here and there. >> what kind of revenue can you generate in the next 5, 10 years, as you roll it out? total investment of $3 billion. >> this is a very large real estate development, much more than an animation studio. it is a huge development. state-of-the-art, theatrical theaters, movie theaters, one of the great imax screens, restaurant, retail. this is obviously a very big investment, a real estate investment. i think it will have very promising returns. very different from the animation business.
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>> any kind of revenue guideline? >> success. >> speaking of, your former employer, the magic kingdom come is building something on the other side of the river, disneyland. how much of this is in response to what they are doing? >> zero. there is nobody that does what disney does. they are in a class by themselves. that park has been 17 years in the design and building. i am sure it will be spectacular, but that is a gated attraction, very different, for the family business. this is really like broadway is for new york or the west end is for london. if anything, they are complementary to one another, they do not compete. >> how are you talking with government officials about loosening up the creative restrictions here and censorship? i see some signs of loosening up, maybe decentralizing to the regional levels. we saw the china film group had had step down.
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what are you seeing as a titan in the industry? >> we have had an amazing experience, we have been bringing films to china for over a decade. 34 films a year. we have had all of our films here, as well as peabody. we have never been asked to change a single frame of a single movie, ever. the issue of censorship on at least four dreamworks animation is a nonissue. >> for more on where entertainment companies are looking to go next and why, let's hear from deals reporter cristina alesci. >> they are all into original content and programming but they have to look elsewhere. a good example of this is disney. reports it is looking at buying a youtube content creator which would be a very forward thinking deal, and that is maker studios. the real trailblazer here is dreamworks. last year, they bought a youtube
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channel, awesomeness tv, which targets teenagers. there are smaller deals, but very sexy and important for these larger cable networks. another part of the immediate industry heating of is the local broadcast tv. this morning there was a deal announced between media general and the lynn media, 2.6 billion dollars. this has to do with the fact that local broadcasters want more leverage with the content distributors or retransmission fees. they also want more leverage with advertisers. you will see more in this space. >> coming up, mark zuckerberg joins a whole bunch of other techies at the white house for what is likely to be a tense meeting on government data collection. the nsa is spying on all of us, but that is no surprise. we will tell you more when we come back. and a big design blowout on "lunch money." from robots to weightlessness,
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>> welcome to "lunch money." i am matt miller in for adam johnson. today's moving picture, where the video is the story. the world cup is 83 days away but the violence is escalating in the slums of rio de janeiro. this fiery attack on a police post got to be the work of a drug gang. police in rio set up the post in the city slums to combat violence ahead of the world cup coming instead they have been frequently attacked. crews from australia and new zealand again came up empty in the search for debris link to the missing malaysian airlines jet.
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the search is focused on part of the indian ocean in the southwest of perth, australia. planes from china and japan will arrive over the weekend to join the effort. hundreds gathered to dance and welcome spring near mexico city. the ancient site is home of the pyramid dedicated to the sun and moon. dancers and tourists were dressed in red and white, color is believed to better absorb the good energy of the spring equinox. president obama meeting with tech ceos today to continue a dialogue on privacy, technology, and intelligence. an ongoing source of tension between silicon valley and washington. here is what google's ceo eric schmidt had to say about the nsa earlier this month. >> they did not knock, they did not call, they did not send a letter. they just visited. >> [laughter]
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>> mark zuckerberg is also taking part in the meeting today. data collection is a big concern for the facebook ceo. last week he posted -- i called president obama to express my frustration over the damage the government is causing. it will take a long time for truthful reform. here is what paypal cofounder and facebook investor peter thiel had to say about the data collection. he spoke with hans nichols at the tech summit in berlin this week. >> they probably undermine trust in certain government institutions. i do not think -- it would be hard to admit undermining trust in the internet in general. i have not seen any data that is just that people are buying less from when the snowden revelations came out. >> what about the balkanization of data? there is a lot about cloud in
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germany. >> my sense is that these things have not yet happened. i think people are disturbed about the intrusiveness across the board. the crazy thing about it is, my sense is we are not dealing with a big brother type state. it was not like the nsa really knew everything that was massively intrusive. it was probably massively incompetent. just a bureaucracy on autopilot that simply collected all the data in the world because it could. i do not think it did much with it. that is probably the other shocking story. there is a civil libertarian critique of the nsa that it was too intrusive.
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there is a technocratic critique, which i have, that it was just incompetent. if you had a competent security agency, it would be able to figure out that there is a very small amount of data that you need to get, so it is a sign of extraordinary incompetent to say that you need everything. >> why can't the state be both, incompetent and big brother? what is the outlook for an agreement between the tech world and the nsa, and who will come out on top? the wikipedia cofounder is confident it will not be the government. >> technology is already in place, awareness among companies. they need to move to the better technologies. that is also in place. it is a matter of time. i do not think ultimately the nsa will win in this fight. >> from one kind of text to another, how do you make gravity look weightless? the answer is next. and the james bond cars. we give you a tour of the iconic collection, the biggest ever on show in luxury. ♪
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>> last week, bloomberg hosted a design conference in san francisco, and all week we have been highlighting the best of that conference. here is the director of product strategy for bot and dolly, a studio that specializes in robotics and filmmaking. >> what is design? i do not know if i will take a pass at answering that. design is not a discipline to me, it is an approach, a methodology. the power of design thinking can be applied in all sorts of areas we do not traditionally think of. bot & dolly is a creative design studio and an engineering and robotics studio.
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what we do here is the result of a unique culture where we intertwine the artist and engineer. it becomes a powerful thing to generate innovative, creative experience ideas that the world has never seen before. we have done a lot of commercial work, a lot of work in films. we were involved in filming "gravity." our robots were responsible for the motion onset which led to some innovative photography approaches. we build a lot of things here. these are six-axes manufacturing robots that we are constantly asking to do things that they were never designed to do. working in a place like this is inherently challenging because the focus of your job is to imagine things that are not really possible, and then find ways to bring them into reality. >> that was pretty awesome. the framestore senior producer also worked on "gravity." here he is.
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>> my name is charles howard. i was the visual effects producer on "gravity." animators usually spend their lives animating creatures and objects that are affected by gravity. we brought in and physics lecturers to bring in this new weightless world. although it was a technical shoot, we had to allow the flexibility of human performance, which was so important to the movie. it was a real journey, about four years in the making. when we started making the film, there were lots of people saying it could not be done, so lots of things to figure out. it was a little bit scary in
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places. making a film that was entirely in low orbit gravity, i do not think has been done before, convincingly, so that was one of the biggest challenges. that led us to create most of the film in a computer. we had to develop lots of new technology, not just to shoot the film, but to get the visual effects. my greatest a compliment was probably delivering it. he is a precise director, wonderful to work with him, but actually delivering a project like that, was quite something, i think, for a visual effects producer. i have worked here all my professional life, 14 years. that is one of my strengths. i know everyone there. when we started making "gravity," although there were many people saying it could not be done, i knew we had the right
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people to figure out how to do it, the right crew to figure out how to build a space shuttle do it in that respect, it was a big help. >> if you have not seen the movie, i highly recommend it. this issue of bloomberg businessweek is the design issue, also completely awesome, full of stories like that. i think he just hit the stands today, so pick it up. it is the quintessential italian fashion brand, fendi. we get a look inside the family business that has made its mark on runways around the world. stay with us. and they have made their mark. james bond's iconic cars on display in london, the biggest display of bond cars ever. we will give you a sneak peek, coming up next in luxury. ♪
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amazon. amazon art launched last year, selling everything from $25 prince to half a million-dollar oil paintings. how will brick-and-mortar galleries compete? >> it is great that amazon is coming into this space and opening up to more people, but what i have seen, they seem to be focusing on a category of art that is more functional, art that you want because you have space over your couch, as opposed to something more aspirational, something you buy because of the brand. >> this is really important. gary hume, could he get started today, the iconic british printmaker, could he get started today without your dealer network? >> it is hard to ignore the number of people today that want further convenience, 24/7 access in their home, or on their apps. >> allen has an interesting start up company that is teaming up with saatchi and skipping the
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middleman so that artists can sell directly. how do you think your site with compete? >> saatchi art, affiliated with philip saatchi, one of the greatest collectors in the world, started his company a couple years ago. we recently expanded. it can now connect 100,000 artists around the world. it is really dealing one-to-one, like airbnb. someone who has a piece of art that wants to sell it. >> you can hear more in the spring issue of bloomberg pursuits, our luxury dedicated vehicle. here is what you cannot buy at amazon art. cars that have made us jealous from james bond films throughout the year. check them out. >> it is not an easy life for a bond car.
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shot, rammed, driven off cliffs. the series has managed to make the cars almost as famous as the actors that drive them. here in london's museum, they have collected the a-list. villain's jags, chauffeur-driven cars, and one heavily damaged aston martin, minus the door. the value of the items runs in the millions. the aston from "goldfinger" sold for $4 million in 2010. the museum ceo has his favorite. the submersible lotus from "the spy who loved me." >> for people in my generation, it was so iconic, a car that drives into the ocean. suddenly the wheels disappearing and the fins coming out.
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it was a defining moment in cinema. >> the bond series pioneered auto placement in movies starting with 1974's "the man with the golden gun." in 2002, ford paid $35 million for the aston martin to reappear. producers say the tie up between product placement and the bond series has kept the franchise alive, having grossed over $6 billion so far in a successful romance. >> now to the fashion brand fendi. it has been around for over 90 years. the company began as a fur and leather shop before making its mark as an international fashion icon. francine lacqua takes us inside fendi. >> in 1925, two italians opened up a fur and leather shop in rome. the mantle passed to their five
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daughters and it is there that the fendi story really begins. under their watch, the company grew into a multinational luxury brand, although they had some help from this man, karl lagerfeld. in 1965, as a young designer, he joined fendi, stripping the lining of its iconic furs, and slimming them down with innovative techniques. his collaboration with the company continues to this day. but it took a fendi to create the brand's most successful product, created in 1977, and bought by the millions, the baguette bag. four years later, the biggest change at fendi in its history. french luxury powerhouse lvmh bought a 90% stake in the
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that was the expiration of futures contracts that caused volatility. indeed, it did during the session. view, i am joined by the chief market strategist. he warns that there is more volatility. he thinks that stocks will end up well here. four percent to five percent is the rally you're looking at. janet yellen indicated that may be rates are going to rise more quickly than people are thinking. obviously, you do not think that is going to derail the longer-term rally we are seeing. >> probably another four percent plus or minus from here. i think that dr. yellen is a capable person. that language is something she did not expect in that environment. a conversation in an interview is different than if you are writing something in a column.
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i think the taper, which is going to be completed by the end of this year, makes sense. and they are going to wait and see how the market digests that. then by third quarter or maybe later, they will discuss whether or not raising the rate will be appropriate. with that said, it will be the until art of a decade something will be different. hello interest-rate environment is something we will have with us for a while. >> it make sense you're looking at volatility in that environment, as the market tries to figure out what to make of the prospects of rising rates. >> the rising is a function of a healthy economy is different than a fed induced inflation. >> everybody will be trying to figure that out. in that environment, you're looking at growth. where are we going to see the growth? walk me through this here.
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has performed well. what will be the next like up for health care? >> i think we have a better understanding of who the winners and losers are. horizon roundent these companies became a lot clearer in the last year. that is something that, would we work through some of the volatility, which will provide pricing opportunities for now. health care has been consistently toward the upper end of the per photo. energy is another were fully aware our managers are consistently looking. that is partly from a valuation perspective. , i thinkmedium-term the united states is more stable. >> not concerned, in terms of underlying oil price growth, given concerns about china, for example? >> sure. sure. i think you will see a lot of
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that chicken. this is been challenging environment for emerging markets. growth atoving from any cost model, toward a more consumer-based. that implies a seven percent growth rate. a lot of the emerging market volatility and places like australia and canada, resource-based economies, the liquidity has been in those markets. >> thank you so much. good to see you, as always. have an awesome weekend. for on the markets, i am julie hyman.
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