from our studios in new york, this is "charlie rose." bill de blasio is here. he is the current mayor of new york city. since served in that role

january 1, 2014. he replaced michael bloomberg and became the first democrat to hold the office in 20 years. he won a landslide victory. i am pleased to have him at this table. you have watched other mayors. tell me about the job. what surprises you about being mayor? the challenge? >> it is a fun job because it is endlessly exacerbating -- excess -- exasperating. intimacy to the huge scale. i think that is wonderful. people want to talk about something and they have an issue. i like that connection. i love what i do. i can see it working or not. >> if i come back in four years and talk to you, what we do have accomplished much and mark

>> i want to fight inequality. the city needs amending and healing to become more of a commonality. we have to address honestly the factors of any quality do not want to american values. it has been made more intense by the economic crisis. from my point of view, the way to judge me is, do i change that reality in any appreciable way? the things we start with, getting more new yorkers to have pre-k and after school programs for middle school kids, addressing any quality not just about economics. it is social justice. the crisis we have in this town and the relationship between the community with the stopping risk issue. whether weeasures of have done something that affected inequality. affordable housing, we are about inannounce that will stop

four years, i want to be able to say, here is what we are aggressively halloween. here are the results right now all stop things are coming up on the horizon. they will get to the core of the unique wall e challenges. they will show that we have started to men's those problem blems.d those pro >> how much is a government responsibility? how much should the private sector be in the business of creating jobs? >> it is all of the above. there are a lot of people in the private actor who are very conscious of this challenge and they want to do something about it. this is the ultimate city of entrepreneurs. many people have worked their way out from all over the world stop like my grandparents, they came from south italy stop there are a lot of people would've

done very well and they remember what it was he struggling. that is a blessing. we encourage that. we have emerging industries like the tech sector. there is a focus on helping a generation of oaks education that they will need or the future. there is a lot to work with. the role of government is to be a catalyst, to create an environment for some of the changes we need, and in that, government needs to be aggressive all stop -- be aggressive. we are blessed that we have a strong government. pre-k is a great example. i do not think we would have gotten the pre-k simply if the public debate had been left to its own. there was a broad realization of stop >> you needed a commitment to an idea? you had to make sure that this is what they were trying to do, something that would make a difference. >> you said it perfectly. if we have a consensus,

unaffected consensus -- an effective consensus, for people to succeed in the modern economy, that would not happen unless it was a focal way of government will stop we needed the ability to create momentum will stop it would not happen because of some public discourse or consensus. that is where government becomes important. it takes us to places that will set up our future more effectively. that does not happen without aggressive leadership. the inequality crisis has grown. there has not been a lot of response from washington. we have to innovate our own .esponse of sto >> you have to do more at the state and local level. washington, d.c. gridlock.

they cannot take the responsibility it has been doing all stop >> it is the polar opposite of what i grew up with. the federal government was the standardbearer and the change agent will stop they were forced to intervene. now it is localities. they have to address the real conditions that people are living through all stop you look at what has happened to the middle class. the decline of benefits. pushing some are of the most powerful ideas to address this. it seems like pre-k and affordable housing are important. we are raising minimum wage levels. >> they are talking about $15. that is unimportant initiative. i think it depends on the city. the higher you go, the better.

a combination of cities there are in a position to formalize a higher wage, and the cities like us. the fast food workers, they have had a big national movement. i do not have powers in this state to mandate that. but i can go and help them win a higher wage. like i want to talk about unions and pensions. pre-k, you went to albany, looking for a commitment. you wanted to raise taxes. what did the governor say? >> the governor has been clear with me. we have a 20 year relationship. he is more reticent about raising taxes. >> what is the difference between the two of you? in terms of how you look at raising taxes? but we have a lot of similar origins. we met when we were trying to help homeless folks. we work together. this point, i am a

believer that we have to address some of these challenges of inequality head-on. i do not think it is inappropriate to ask those looked unwell to achieve some of the things -- >> you do not think it is inappropriate to raise the taxes among the wealthiest? made $500,000 or more. >> that income would go directly to the programs. >> it would go to the city to fund pre-k and after school programs. that proposal is necessary. i am thrilled to say that albany felt another way to fund it. if you have the bigger ideological question, i think what is happening around the country is more and more about have come to the conclusion that we cannot fight the growing inequality crisis with the previous approaches. the status quo approach will not lead to change. we have to do something different.

you will see this play out intensely over the coming months. >> in terms of elections? facing a simple example. i went to the white house to meet with the president will st. it was primarily democrats and a few republicans. it was people from all over the country. the commonality around the room was that everyone was recognizing an act on the inequality crisis. people talked about various crises and what they were doing was deciding together, spontaneously, that we had to act in the absence of federal action. we had to act. each city is doing it differently. each city is realizing that it has power to act. if we do not act, who does? i do not think it is about being fought. the history in your city as of

the developers, the real estate community. we will be respectful and honest brokers, but we're upping the morestop we have to get hiring of local residents. at this point, the economic dynamics, we need construction to create more jobs for people who have not had as much economic opportunity. >> you obviously have the support of a people who have helped you in terms of people on the ground on election day, as well as of or. -- support. a lot of people wonder what unions will demand of you. what they will expect from you. have you answer? although iis that have a philosophically positive and kindred feeling with labor groups, it is very diverse. a lot of unions did not die -- endorsed me.

it is not that we agree on every issue. it is about me honoring the history of the labor movement. there is an active partnership to make this city -- as we approach our new contract process, i am a progressive. i believe in the role of government. that is the ground roll. it has been a very respectful process. a lot of parts of the country, there was a disk ane -- disdain toward labor. it has become a common part of the discourse. >> is that teachers unions? >> especially towards teachers' unions. it spread to others as well quite aggressively. i think the removal of the negatives, and the creation of a positive, respectful environment, and the fact that my larger goals are to address the very same issues that led to the development of the labor movement -- this is not a minor

issue. i have spoken a lot about this. in the end, i am appealing to the origins of why unions exist. they come out of struggles to get people decent wages and benefits for t. in times of economic crisis -- we are in a different economic crisis wils. we better find some common ground. you have to be fiscally responsible. any good progressive cannot get far if they are not fiscally -- fiscallyop labor sane. labor has respected that. we are doing pre-k. >> might they say that you have to wait 12 years for someone who may have a kinship with us and it is time for us to get something for that sacrifice? we help you, you should help us? >> that is not an unusual

thought pattern, but there is a real confluence of economic faculty will stop -- ethical tea. difficulty. it benefits their members in fundamental ways wil. so much of what we are doing on the ground and so many of the families of our workforce are positively affected. we have a stop and frisk policy. there's is a growing cognizance that it is not just the narrow conception of what is in a contract. there's something bigger going on. they have an opportunity to do that. >> it seems like times are tough. a new mayor in a progressive tradition needs to reach out to sectors of the community. previous mayors who were elected

need to reach out to workers in the city. how do you reach out to the business people? do you care about earning their confidence, in terms of expressing you really are and what you want to do. process ofce is a trying to build a real consensus. we want to create meaningful unity. not just for our present, before our future. pre-k is a great example. i spent a lot of time with leaders in the business immunity. we have said that it is in our common interest. this is for the future of our city, our work force. >> a lot of them agreed. some disagree ideologically. the nature of taxation. that theot deny underlying motivation was a good one.

we have a lot more work to do. i reach out to the real estate industry. i am changing the expectations and saying that we need to build a lot. >> house real estate going to be different? >> from a public perspective, we will get more done in each of these real estate transactions. there will be more affordable housing and hiring of local residents. we need schools. there will be better community benefits. are very devoted to moving these projects through quickly. i do not want some of the roadblocks. down theirk community benefits, we are going to hire a lot of evil. it is in my interest. we want to move those processes quickly. realizingolks are that we are going to up the ante overall and make things work. >> when will you announce this?

exit is coming up in a few days. >> 200,000 people will be covered. it will allow us to reach a lot of folks, you mentioned seniors, and there will be a substantial commitment to their housing. families are among the most riced out in this eddie. -- city. folks at the lowest income level have not had access to affordable housing in a long time. it has been a long time since housing was devoted to folks at the lowest part of the income level. what you will see they housing plan that looks like your state. it is the true dynamics of our population today. we will move aggressively. i said too many people, and the

charitable ones they it is ambitious. everyone believes that it is a matter of leadership in bringing the powers of the city to common ground. we will make this work. it is the biggest expense by far in new york city. if you want to fight income inequality, reduce the greatest expense for people. -- you have a big podium. you are connected to the people. you have an opportunity to argue your view. at cross-sections of the problems that you face, and i'm thinking about charter schools, did you seem to come across the man who was scared of charter schools, and they did not fit is philosophy. did you think you could not provide schools -- charter schools?

>> i had a pretty well-established set of ideas. i made it clear throughout the campaign that i wanted to work with charter schools. but i also want to hold them accountable for inclusiveness in terms of the population. we serve a lot of english language learners and special ed kids. i want to see the same mixing charter schools. i want to see a high quality of achievement. i want to see a good working relationship with charter schools and regular schools. that has not been the case. we set out to do a series of reforms. i have to say again. i have to make it clear that my goal is to reach every child. whether they are in a traditional public school or a charter school. >> they are doing a good job of educating kids, in addition to the school models that -- would

you be supportive of that? thet a question of finding most productive place for them to be? >> it is more complicated. but any other sector, they are diverse. some are inclusive and some are not. inclusive meaning, if you are in , you willnal school be taking in the population that lives around at school. by definition, you will have a lot of kids whose first language is not english. you'll have a lot kids were special education. we in the public sector note that we have to serve all of those. some charters. in very good at following that model. some have been selective. to me, when i need to know is that working with charter is that they create innovation and it will be shared constructively. that was not the tradition in

the last few years. any differences with the teachers union? and who would you take on? the idea is that he would take on the teachers' union. sense of the idea that the teachers union is part of the problem. >> i do not agree that they are part of the problem. i think that all of us in the education area have to a better job. ilk, electedith my officials. parties over generations who watched public school students face of ineffective practices. i had my differences of michael bloomberg, but i give him a lot of credit for achieving education issues when we needed it. he deserves credit.

i give him credit for making major investments. on ank you missed the boat contentious dynamic of teachers. and parents as well. i say that as a public school parent. that was on unnecessary rift. i think he and all of our predecessors miss the opportunity for early childhood education. that is most impacted by investment. wayhey need to figure out a in which parents play a bigger role in their children's education and teachers are respected. we do everything we can to support them. we demand a lot. i have had a very constructive relationship with teachers in the city. that theyo believes

were against co-locations of schools. there were things that we did not agree on. we always had a tremendous ofunt, -- language in terms working with each other. i think that teachers are part of the solution. i think that more than any other point in our history. the cultural rules around education about security fact that if we did not create on effective strategy to recruit and retain the best teachers and uplift the profession, there is no way in the world that we would fix our schools. >> all the other things we talk about. a teacher who continues to get peers, and who has

master teachers helping them along, and he was encouraged to stay in the profession. if they are not good, help them to a different profession. that is the model that we need desperately. it has not been attempted. >> there is this issue. i am asking this question, but it seems that you are the kind of man who wants to know where there is a good idea. if you have an idea that will help me and the people of new york, i do not care who you are. tell me what it is. but it is said that you haven't seen or talked to were sought council of thehe mayor. reached half a million more people largely on the success of places like seattle and san francisco. i look at those models.

we are working on a municipal id card. half a million undocumented people who have no form of id and can't get a lease or a bank account. they do not have an id to show them. we will issue a municipal id program. we got that idea from places in california. >> is very reason not to talk to the man -- >> i feel very comfortable talking with him and working with them. i have signed on to his gun control efforts. i think they're very important. i continue his policies on public health and resiliency and a lot of the environmental fronts. it so happens that we have not talked a lot in recent times. i am very comfortable doing it. i am certain it will happen naturally. there will be issues that i am working on where i want him to be a part of it. people have a connection to the issues in terms of providing jobs is an important

idea for you. >> absolutely. >> people who can bridge then terms of connections. >> i want to say, against that backdrop, it is universality. all ideas are welcome. collaboration is welcome. am serious that i about my friends here. i am not here to continue a status oh. we had another report today that -- new yorkers are poverty level. it is an astounding fact an unacceptable. i will work with anyone, but i want them to understand who i am. my sense of mission is to address inequality. once we understand each other, then all things are possible. i have got a lot of folks in the business community take me at my word. i'm here to look for common ground stop >> did you back down

on -- how do you define what you did after that massive campaign? earlier, we are not going to leave any child behind stop i do not care if it is a charter school or a public school. every child who was in that not end up with a school assignment was accommodated. some of the things are going to be difficult. we are creating a new process for charter schools. it will come with new ground rules. we have different priorities around capital spending. we are concerned about overcrowding. those are high priorities. we will work with the charter schools. we have managed to say, here is where we are stop everyone is welcome to be part of the conversation.

there are some philosophical differences from the previous administration. to the horsect carriages, where are you on that budget mark -- on that? it is a straightforward issue. it is a smaller issue in the big scheme of angst. every industry matters and every working person matters. it is a relatively small industry. states havey, already made the practice -- decision to end the practice as it is arcane. accident withd an a horse in the middle of traffic. it was by traffic. you have a crash, and someone gets hurt. why? he goes forces do not belong in the middle of the street. if we can find another way to create jobs, but not have an inhumane practice, i am

convinced we will get there. i look at cities around the world will gone down that path. it is a different moment in history. >> thank you for coming. >> thank you so much.

fax kevin spacey is here. heacts in theater, film, and produces and directs. he is a world cast impersonator. he starred in "house of cards." he is releasing a documentary on the loose. footloose. here is the trailer for a film on richard the third. >> it is about the nature of power. to take aique thing film around the world. it is rarely done. it is a whole other way of living. >> people, their nerves were just on end. >> display is the most demanding experience i've ever had.

>> the thrill of the year -- theater is that it happens once only. >> i am pleased to have kevin spacey back at this table. >> thank you for having me. >> we did a thing in front of an audience. we premiered the film and it was great. it was the first time i had a chance to see it with the audience. we brought almost the whole company back together. >> it seems important to you. >> it is. a lot of people over the years have asked me, why did you go to london? to some degree, is because people put more value on what they think film and television can bring to light after first is what theater brings to an actor. i have always been a theater actor from the beginning. that has always been my primary release. we made this film with a first-time filmmaker.

it was an opportunity to go behind the scenes and to really show what it is like to be an actor in a company. it is quite a unique company in the sense that sam mendes was tracking. -- correcting. >> you two knew each other? >> it was the first time we worked together since american beauty. thingas unique about this was that it was a three-year experiment where sam directed five productions. the first two years, they did to place. they were classic works. one was chekhov and one was shakespeare. what made it unique is that it was the first time that a transatlantic theater company had been brought together. it was 50% american actors and 50% british actors. the experiment was, let us print together americans and bread -- british people and see if you

can make shakespeare come alive. people talking with a top. -- talked the way they talk. when i did richard the second, i had to speak with a british accent. it was a british king. in this case, i did not have to do an accent. everyone just sounded the way they sound. it was a very incredible response that we got. we just accepted that that is the way it was. it was a 10 month experience across three continents. we finished up at a theater in brooklyn. >> you are in naples, is tumble, singapore, sydney. remarkable.ite people say, dear is dying. with us on this tour, you would have seen the

audience is lacking in. >> people are saying theater is dying for 100 years. [laughter] >> it is true. as long as people have stories to tell, it will be alive and well. it was a great experience for me to try to capture. the thing i am most pleased about is that sam and i were at the center of it. what you really get a chance to do is meet a whole group of journeyman actors and actresses. this is what they have dedicated their lives to. they are the heart and soul of what makes theater fantastic. i am just trying to continue my disruptive behavior. exciting because i think to some degree, one of the reasons i decided to do it -- >> tell me about that. --now a number of people including the head of the bbc.

>> it was an interesting lecture to give. i am the first actor to give it. i talked a great deal about the netflix model and the fact that --did this to suzanne series two seasons of a series and you see how many emerging talent are finding new platforms and new ways to be discovered. to get their material out there and sell produce it. one thing that has been interesting about the model is that it has really shown an improvement in audiences wanting to be in control. they decide when they watch it and how much to watch. >> they are no longer tethered to real-time. >> exactly. i think films of this nature are undervalued. it is nietzsche -- niche. how much crossover is there? if people like what i have done in house of cards, richard the

third will be similar. france is under based on richard the third. that is where the direct address comes from. it is directly from richard. people think that ferris bueller invented it. [laughter] it was william shakespeare. >> it was not him at all. i wanted to do it in such a way that i would have control. on my website. >> is the first word of the first sentence of the play. "now is the winter of our discontent." >> the word about to me what theater is. it is now. it is at this moment. -- actor, it is

one of the things that you get to express. what is life for us? the ritual of getting up and digging deeper. andng to go farther understanding play and your audience. and for us, the different audiences that we play. i tried to say to people who do not understand or get theater, white means to much to us. if you want to compare home and theater, the big difference is that no matter how good an actor no, he willelm, -- never be any better. in here, i can be better tomorrow night than i was today. it is something that people can understand stop you can play eight nights of tennis. it is the same rules, it is a different game every time. metaphor for interviews and conversations. where i hit the ball is where you hit that. [laughter]

>> you never know. it is like anything. -- the relationship between the actor and the audience is very interesting army. that for me. in thenteresting theater, because in many cases, the audience close to you. i was able to look into their eyes and the be kind of not glee that naughty they experienced in becoming co-conspirators. the relationship that i have as an actor to an audience. the relationship that francis has 28 is and he is telling a story to. it is a very intimate and unusual thing. >> i will come back to "house of cards." tell me where you are right now. where are you headed? -- i am ate victim

the vic another year. then i will do something else. i am part of the succession process. that is ongoing. we do not know who will step in. i'm very excited about what we set out to do. that was to revitalize the old vic as a destination theater. the fact of the british public embraced it, they always love that theater. they came early, they came with their friends. they helped us put it back on the map. i am proud of the fact that it will continue long after i am gone. that is what i set out to achieve. i have to raise some money. we take no money from the state. we were very fortunate last year that the coalition government in recognition of the past few years gave us a one-time grant. there's always a but.

$15 million toe get it. i am hoping for a number of significant divisions. >> what happens after that? >> house of cards came along. i am finishing my time. that takes a good amount of my energy. >> became because of a conversation that i had on the set of the social network. i executive produced that film. we were -- it had been a long while since we had worked together. i did a film with him. we talked about wanting to work together. he had heard that the rights to cards"ie's "house of were available.

i love the original. we came back together in both the great. we thought it would translate well. he is a wonderful playwright. he has done a fantastic job. had mccarthy. >> he was helpful to me in terms of understanding what the hipority with dead -- w did. i can't say anything because i do not want to be a spoiler. >> i said that i would not watch season two until season three is done because i do not want to wait. >> everyone has their own way of . president clinton liked the show. ask what does he say? >> they are going to watch it together. pieces --the theater

what has influenced you the most? is it shakespeare? shakespeare.gree, i have not done that much shakespeare. i have really just on richard the second and richard the third. you think about it, but i have never been an actor who has to play a certain part. it has been about what directors want to see me do. of the most extraordinary experiences i have had have been doing eugene o'neill. the relationship that i was able to develop, and i was able to play his son. th." did "the iceman come it is something about the way in which eugene o'neill attacked the characters he created. the complexities, the alcoholism, the despair. there's something about that.

one of the most remarkable writers for whom there was nothing between their heart in the 10 -- and the 10. it just came and there was no blockage. they were not afraid to expose and share with an audience. beenas it may have difficult to grapple with their own families. >> have you ever thought about doing a one-man show? >> i am going to do a one-man show, but not as myself. it is a show that henry fonda created: clarence darrow. i wanted to be up on stage this season at the old vic. i did not have the time because of the schedule for "house of cards." what i am doing is i'm starting may 28. i will do two weeks of performances as clarence there'll. -- clarence darrow.

>> is something you would have to spend a lot of time preparing? >> i have played him twice before. i have done a television film. >> what is the appeal? >> i think he is an extraordinarily fascinating character. fatherople call him the of the legal profession in the united states. the scope trial. he was a tremendous fighter for labor. >> he is the man who won the eight hour day for workers in the united egg. states. they had it almost as bad as anyone in terms of the abuses. no sunlight and no doctors. he was a hugely influential man. he took on cases that no one else wanted. he was an advocate against capital punishment. he saved the lives of young people.

>> he was a huge progressive? >> is uplifting. it takes you through trials that were very famous. i also fell, i'm going to do a one-man show, it is not such a heavy lift to learn something brand-new. i know his life and his story. i have played him a couple times. i am hard at work learning. i have never done a one-man show. we have just reconfigured the old vic back into a theater in the round. we did that a number of years ago. one-manever done a show. i have never done a play in the round. that means there's nowhere to hide. you see a little bit in the documentary. there is a whole section where we talk about going on stage and you start laughing. at least, you can turn and hide from the audience. if that happened to me in the

round, -- >> a one-man show about the characters that you have inhabited. number two, is your gift. >> maybe when i am 85. >> no. is it beneath you? is it something in which you define -- you say other people's words all your life. [laughter] do you know whether you could write or not? would you rate yourself? >> i had a little help from a partner. he wrote a terrific book. it is an examination of the last 15 years of television. it is a terrific book. it starts with "the sopranos." he published a book a year later and "house of cards" would have been a chapter. he helped me a little bit. most of it, i wrote myself.

>> what did you say beyond the impact of netflix much and mark social media and all of that? level, it was about what would have happened if we were not required to do a pilot. netflix believes in the idea of a show. was get moreto do members and break even. it is not like it was impossible. it was like 3 million new members. but they going to raise the price. client only for new subscribers. >> what are you, a stockholder? i i never discuss my personal affairs. here is what i am trying to do. singing. i love doing it when i did the bobby darin l.

-- fil.m m. i went to miami and we raised money for an art under. i had an incredible time. a musical conductor and the drums was there and we had a 40 players -- orchestra. i got to do 10 songs i had never done. i got to do some billy joel. i have heard them talk about this. we did not start the fire is a very difficult song. it is very difficult to do. i did that and sinatra. all kinds of fun stuff. i will do more of that. in that context, and to answer your question about a one-man show, -- >> you can do impressions, all kinds of things. you have a big screen. >> charlie, do you want to produce the show? >> i do. think about what you have to play with.

and you can sing. mayberry first job in new york was chased for any park with manny patinkin. withakespeare in the park manny patinkin. >> to see people likemandy, they become these really interesting characters. the most interesting characters. >> it is interesting to watch how this extraordinarily regressive -- progressive revolution is happening in television. the actors they have chosen to play these incredible, iconic parts -- characters were antiheroes. you think back to the days of television when network

executives taught that all the characters had to be likable. it is their job. you do not want to make anyone angry. now the audience wants that. they want welterweight. -- walter white. is this the last season of "house of cards"? i hope not. if there were any dream situation where i could have the kind of collaborative experience that i want to have an older directors will come on, and the cast, it is so much fun. i am heavily involved in it. we all grapple with it and talk iout it and if it will stop have an idea, and he says it is terrible, but that led me to this idea. there is a remarkable journey that we are all on.

-- most fun part about it there are so many things i do not know yet. there's so much i have not had to learn. we may reveal it, we may not. every time i get a script or a scene, i think, this is interesting. obviously, they're both stories about the nature of power. ,t is about how these two men how they're good at being able to create how other people will react. they are 16 moves ahead in the chess game. >> that was lyndon johnson. this question was raised, and i found it interesting. why not film and theater more? one is two-dimensional and one is three-dimensional. >> we have lincoln center live.

we are filming productions, either by and streaming and going into cinemas across the united states, but i also think that even that cost $25 and you have to leave your house. we're going to head toward a time where more theater will be level ofat the highest cinematography. wherek it will be a place it will be available. i think it will be fantastic. people never have a chance to at to broadway and see steppenwolf production in chicago. >> most theaters do not shoot their productions because they cannot afford it. the magic will be sponsorship and finding a way to bring theater to audiences for free.

ultimately, you can catalog it. life you can read the best books in the world. you can see the best paintings. you can see pretty good rep production that reproduction. but fear is not able to do that. because peter has so much to offer -- theater had so much to ffer -- >> i am of two minds. i think it would be fantastic for more people to discover theater on the internet or on a dvd, i also want people to go to the theater. they have to experience it. i do not want that to go away. i think there is a way to get more people interested and engaged. morehave to make people aware of what an incredible experience it is. as long as we make it affordable, we will be all right.

your film will be released in select theaters. and on kevinspacey.com. >> do you have a charlie rose.com? >> yes. i then don't make fun of my website. diesel hats and t-shirts? >> no we don't. [laughter] a labor of love for kevin spacey. good talking to you. i thank you very much. ♪

>> this is "taking stock" for thursday, may 1, 2014. i'm pimm fox. today was a day of emotion. an emotional day at ford where the current ceo officially named the next chief executive. and more on the more on the nba ban of donald sterling. and donald trump land a major golf tournament. at first, carol massar.