>> from our studios in new york, this is "charlie rose." >> we turn to benghazi. speaker john boehner and house republicans seek to investigate the 2012 attacks. the decision follows e-mails

released regarding the state department's handling of the events. eight committees have already looked into the benghazi matter. the obama administration and house democrats remain undecided to act or participate in the new committee. white house press secretary jay carney has said monday that any further investigation by congress would be highly partisan effort to politicize a tragedy. joining me now, trey gowdy of south carolina. speaker boehner appointed him on monday to head the select committee. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> tell me how you see this. is a new select committee necessary? why did you accept the speakers invitation? what do you think you can accomplish? >> i think it is necessary, charlie, because if you consider the three different categories with respect of benghazi, number one, why was the facility not secure leading up to 9/11, 2012? during the siege itself, did we have assets that were able to

respond? if not, why not given the significance of that date? thirdly, was the guy but honest with the citizenry in the aftermath with respect to the explanation? i'm sure the speaker pick me apart because i used to be a prosecutor. that would be my guess. i am much more interested in pursuing the facts than i am political theater. i think it can be done that way. i hope my democrat colleagues will participate. many of them are former prosecutors or former attorneys asked a very good questions. i had a guy stop me in the airport today at reagan as i was coming to the capitol. he said, i'm a former military guy. i want you to get to the bottom of what happened in benghazi. i have no idea what his politics are. he may have no politics. and that is my refrain. as i travel, people still think

that there are questions. >> it seems to me, and you can correct me or not, it is driven by republicans have that have this believe and have not been dissuaded that somehow the white house in a political campaign year has not been forthcoming, and you question exactly why there was some confusion about the nature of the attack, that in the end that is the issue. >> i think that you can certainly faction an argument that that is the most important of the three issues. they get that whether or not people can trust and rely upon what government tells them. it is difficult to go back to 2012. if you can go back there in our minds we are in the throes of a general election. one of the narratives is that al qaeda is on the run, osama bin laden is dead. i think that ben rhodes memo was the straw that broke the camel's back.

it made it clear that we are going to blame an internet video and not broader policy failure in libya. i am an old da. if you think it was the video, cite me the evidence. that is the mantra we hear. we had used the best evidence we had at the time. that wasn't an intent to deceive. we were just mistaken. think back to the susan rice talkshows. then give me the evidence. there is none. >> you don't believe anybody from the ci who says at the earliest beginnings we were not sure we come in washington, exactly what was going on. we later looked at the evidence and that was our state of mind. you don't believe that? >> no. i cannot tell you what someone else's state of mind was.

what i can tell you is that on september 12, there was an e-mail from beth jones memorializing a conversation she had with the libyan ambassador. she was very clear this was how sharia, an extremist organization. every change he made to the talking points in my judgment sanitized them to go from the word terrorist to extremist. to the word attack to the word demonstration. to take out any reference of the priorefforts so it's -- episodes of violence. he didn't want to embarrass the state department. i am not interested in embarrassing or not embarrassing anyone. it is fair to ask why on that date given what had been happening in libya prior to that, why were we caught so flat-footed by what turned out to not be a protest but an

organized attack on our facility? miket me listen to what said to me on this program on a conversation about him and the ci. you can hear. >> in the entire process i talked about, the white house suggested three changes. of them were, all editorial. none of them were substantive. the white house had no substantive input in the talking points. there have been allegations that the white house wrote the talking points. they have been allegations that -- no one >> cooking the books. there have been allegations that the white house made significant changes to the talking points. not true. allegations that the white house told me to make changes. not true. none of that is true. none of that. >> when you listen to the former

director of the cia say that, what do you think? >> the first question i would ask is where it is susan rice come up with her video narrative? even the cia was not pushing that narrative. if you think back to the testimony, intel just last month, he was shocked when she said on the sunday morning talk shows this was a spontaneous reaction to a video. was, wait aion minute, no one is telling us this is related to the video. hillary clinton said it was related to the video. the president condemned the video. i cannot tell you what mr. morel believed on september 12, 2013. someone change the talking points. they change them in a light most calculated to sanitize them and catch the administration and the best light. is there a more nefarious explanation? there could be. they have those

talking points? why did they change the talking points? that seems to be the core of your focus. >> i would argue the first category. why we missed all the episodes in libya prior to the attack. how government interacts with its citizenry, and why susan rice said what she said, and what role if any the white house played, that is very important whether you can trust what your you.nment tells speaking personally, you ask me personally what is number one, i would like to know why we, number one, were still in benghazi when everyone else had pulled out, and why was there light --folk rent so why was our security footprint so light? >> it goes back to the security issue. it was a commission that looked into that. were you not satisfied by that?

>> no, sir. in no way shape or form. to do investigations. you don't rely on summaries. you don't rely on synopses. heavens knows you don't fail to interview the secretary of state or susan rice, or cheryl mills. i respect admiral mullen and their service to our country. we had a hearing on the perceived shortcomings of the arv. that doesn't get to the fact that they didn't have access to the witnesses or documents. how in the world can you rely on an investigation done with investigators who didn't talk to three principles and didn't have access to the evidence? >> but do believe what mike morrell says? you, if youncourage have a slot at some point, to invite senator graham to come on your show. he has a different recollection of conversations he had with mr. morel than the one that i just

heard. i was not witness to that. i can't impeach someone credibility. i wouldn't do so. i just know this. susan rice repeated the internet video narrative and mike morel, despite an e-mail from the station chief in libya that said not related to a protest, he chose the intelligence from langley. did he do it for legitimate reasons, did he believe that the boots on the ground in libya were wrong? i can't speak to that. he was wrong. what's there is this. i want you to listen to this. mike morel is a principal character in this. he said this to me in an interview. it is not going to go away until secretary clinton makes a decision about what she is going to do. are we looking at politics? likes i've only been in this town three years. politics seems to infect and

invade everything here. even something like the murder of four fellow citizens. it doesn't have to be that way. i would tell my colleagues on the other side at least let us have our first hearing. before you dismiss it as typical d.c. politics, to me facts are not red or blue. they are not swing state fax. they are just the facts. people control different conclusions. mike morel's defense is i wound up being wrong but this is the basis for the opinion nigeria the aftermath of benghazi. ed is fine. and we can -- that is fine. fromis different fro challenging someone's motives. no arrests, no convictions. that is another reason benghazi is not going away. is mike morel talking with a meeting with republican

senators. >> the white house asked me to go with her to do one thing. she said say that what about the attacks evolving spontaneously from a protest were consistent with the talking points, and the talking points were consistent with the classified and analysis at the time. that was my job. to actually show them. i took them the talking points. here's what the talking points said. i took them the classified analysis and said here's what the analysis said. it is almost word for word exactly the same. i wanted to show them there was no difference between the talking points she used and the classified analysis of what the analysts thought. >> lindsey graham has a different recollection about that meeting? >> most assuredly he does. i will let senator graham speak for himself it wouldn't be fair for me to weigh in on that.

i will say this. susan rice's talk show appearances will be on the talking points. even accepting that the talking points are wrong, and we now know that they were wrong. what i would ask mike morel is, -- you have the station chief? why did you ignore the evidence to rely on someone at langley, and what evidence was that person relying upon? held a count of our judgment and live. his judgment was wrong. >> do think the democrats will participate? >> i think they will because their constituents still have questions. i don't want to be naïve. i don't think you have to be a republican or democrat or have any logical affiliation to realize what happened in benghazi should not have happened. you can draw different

inferences from those facts. what everyone is going to conclude, somebody ought to have thess to the witnesses and documents. so far we have had neither. >> what would satisfy you? cant that you would believe put this question to rest? as to who said what, when, and why? >> a process that inspires confidence in viewers. that is important to me as a prosecutor. i want the process to be fair. i also want access to every witness that has knowledge about what happened in benghazi and the aftermath. i want access to all the documents. in this business of overclassification or having to sue to get a document, that is what a free and open society, you shouldn't have to go through that to get the truth for your

government. i want access to everything. i want a process that hopefully approves the critics wrong. -- proves the critics wrong. >> windley we are committee investigate? what's we will pass the resolution -- >> we will pass the resolution this week. i think the democrats are going to participate. i know adam said they would boycott. i think minority leader pelosi has said they will participate. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> we will be right back. stay with us. ♪ >> ruzwana bashir is here. she is ceo and cofounder of peek.com. the digital hub is a one-stop shop for booking activities while on vacation or home. local and well-known tastemakers serve as virtual tour guides. it is available in 19 cities spanning the u.s. come a hawaii, and europe. they come to span to the new markets this summer and through the fall.

in march, it announced a second round of funding of $5 million. i am pleased to have ruzwana bashir at this table. she is as interesting as her company. welcome. >> thank you. >> just the quick bio for you. born in england. >> yes. >> educated in england. oxford. harvard business school. then have this amazing series of jobs from a goldman sachs, and then decided you wanted to be in silicon valley and you want to do what everybody's dream is who goes to silicon valley, be an entrepreneur and create a company. what more should i add? >> i think those are the main parts. i always knew i wanted to do something entrepreneurial. i started my career in the finance side. in transition to work on startups. i think there is an opportunity to to create tremendous value and shape the way that we live our lives. i had an idea and decided to go after it. that is how i started peek.com.

>> but there is a model you thought was interesting. opentable. what was it about opentable that you thought might serve as a model like what you wanted to do and travel? >> sure. it stemmed from me going away on a trip to istanbul. >> more about that later. >> exactly. i spent 20 hours on this trip trying to figure out what i should do. i should be able to book it. it'd make sense to me that there wasn't a one-stop shop to be a will to find great activities and book them online. that is what opentable is done for the restaurant industry. you can book them easily. i decided there was an opportunity to build something akin to opentable in the activity space. >> and triple underline activities, which means? >> it means it is going kayaking, taking a tour. art gallery, it might be going wine tasting. anything that you do. >> and the people who are your sources for this are? >> we work with taste makers

such as wolfgang puck, tory burch. then we have have a team of travel experts. >> tell me the kinds of things people like in istanbul. >> istanbul is a city we are not in yet. >> oh. but it was the basis for you decided you wanted to go. >> it is. it is where i got my inspiration for starting the company. take paris. paris, turns out, a lot people want to see sites like the eiffel tower. then people are doing more unusual activities. by going to see the catacombs. tours, museums. >> watch bread being made. >> exactly. you can learn how to make pastries in paris, which is appropriate. >> you took this company. how long ago? >> two years ago. >> he had had this new successful round of financing. you will use that money to expand in new markets. >> we are expanding to mexico. .hich is a relevant

a lot of weekend destinations. the hamptons, cape cod, martha's vineyard. book can help them tickets. >> who is your competition? kayak are being able to use to hook your airline or flights. they are not good for activities. there is a hundred billion .ollar global market >> do you have people who go on these trips and use it and log back in to find great discoveries you may not have known about you big up -- build up your database. >> we do. reviews are important. it taps into something else that we haven't talked about. peek professional. theseike opentable where guys have the technology they need.

three percent of activities have online booking. the rest don't. we are able to help them empower them. >> what is your economic model? >> we take a commission on activities booked. people -- no one >> the who pay you are those businesses. >> exactly. they only pay if someone makes a booking. we charge for the tours. >> tell me about you. you come out of harvard business school at oxford. thatof the people who do orhold that job have been have gone into politics or become barristers. >> a lot of them do. >> and of those things interested you at the time? >> i think for me it was passion, being able to told a

company, to create jobs, create opportunities for people to have these experiences they share with their friends and family. all of that is more inspiring. it isn't mean -- for now i am very excited about being able to billion-dollar a company. >> your able to build a network of friends like harry schmidt. he made sure that he invited you . that kind of thing. you have people who have been enormously successful in silicon valley as your good friends. >> yes. they have been investors. i've been fortunate because i , and they were people that i build credibility with. i was working with this startup. when it came to building peek i

was able to approach them and talk about the things we're going to do there. a were excited about the disruption and the fact that can do this stuff with mobile. they became tremendous helpers and provided essential advice. >> what about the huge travel companies, why can't they say we are booking these things? why can't we go into the activities market ourselves? why do we take customers away from you? sense fors a lot of people to do that. large companies tend not to be innovative. we have that edge. more merchants use the peek platform it is make sense to go on something else. that the one thing startups don't have, the best technology. the central things to have the

technology underneath your idea. >> i couldn't agree more. or me coming in with my background, which was on finance , it allowed me to have a great technology partner. towent in my tea -- he went mit. skillshaving had those was important. we have got cutting-edge technology. we are pushing the boat forward in terms of mobile. we have the best product in this space. that is the reason that it was selected as the best new app i am well. we have been able to marker selves out for our company as one of the top 10 in travel. we are there and making sure we are pushing forward. >> for some young person coming from harvard business school, or not business school, google has a new hiring policy which they say it is not graduates of

business school pre-beer looking for x factor that we think we can identify. what is your best advice for someone coming to silicon valley? >> take risks early in your career. >> or later. >> it tends to be the case that people are not taking risks earlier. when you're putting yourself in a situation where you are challenging yourself, that is where you're going to learn the most and the skills that you need to be able to be a great entrepreneur. the most important skill an entrepreneur is having a business sense. have some and obstacles. >> tee up persistence? >> i am told i do. i'm used overcoming challenges. >> what is it that are possible, the extraordinary thing about this travel and negativity's business is that it is $100 billion business. that is extraordinary. >> yes. bikes in terms of offering opportunity

-- >> in terms of offering opportunity. >> yes. we use not able to engage in activities in the same way. now we have computers in our phones. we want to book things around us now. we want to do things with our kids. >> you can insulate book something pre-wake up on saturday morning and know what you're going to do that day. >> exactly. go often do these incredible things. learn about the world around you. >> learn how to paint. >> exactly. >> what would you do? if you're going to paris. >> i actually am. there are a couple of activities am excited about. i'm going to the catacombs. i think i'm excited about the history of that. i'm hopefully going to go on a tour of monet. i would love to learn more.

>> that is the obvious thing to do. can about some sense, you take cooking lessons for example. you could do that. >> exactly. i would love to actually. i wanted to learn how to make french desserts. that is on the horizon. of artre a host experiences of like the idea. you know how to make sea glass. you are able to make murals with them. >> what is the most exciting place you've had a fruitful activity? ofi would say that i'm a bit a landscape buffer. i went horse riding on the mongolian steps. >> thank you for coming. much success. >> thank you. >> back in a moment. stay with us. ♪

>> e. o. wilson is here. he is one of the world's most distinguished scientist. he is a professor emeritus at harvard. he is a two-time pulitzer prize recipient. the world's foremost expert on ants. 84 years old he remains passionate about the world and biodiversity's role in protecting the earth's future. his new book tells the story of the most diverse places on

earth. gorongosa national park in mozambique. it is called, "a window on eternity." i am pleased to have him back at this table. welcome. >> thank you so much. >> did i pronounce that right? >> just right. >> let's talk about books. tell me about your trip there and what this offers there. i just recently had my third trip. i go there as a consultant to a distinguished world citizen, greg carr, who is putting everything he has, his time, his wealth, to resuscitating, giving rebirth to a park that was almost destroyed during the terrible mozambique civil war. >> a lot of the animals were destroyed. >> yes. the big animals. they were just about wiped out. it is what we usually call

wildlife, big ones. they were drastically reduced. i'm happy to report that my studies of the and others including the young naturalist who took those photographs have indicated that the flora, the vegetation, and the small creatures, the insects and spiders, all of those have maintained the ecosystem and were not badly disturbed. it is plausible to bring back the big mammals. and, to bring gorongosa, whose name means danger. that is a peak of special concern. back to what it was before the civil war in the last century, one of the most diverse and greatest parts of africa. >> why is that important? >> because.

places, auch half-million acres, and such bulk ofre preserved the earth's reviving biodiversity, the variety of plants and animals, and microorganisms. desperation for the rest of life on earth. we should begin to pay more attention to it. we are eroding away at a rate that such that experts on the subject, i include myself in that as many as half the species of plants and animals on earth could go extinct. half. by the end of the century. that is a serious business. extinction is a reversible.

we have no idea how most of these ecosystems were. we have very little idea of how many species are in them. we don't know what is going to happen to the world if we remove such a large part of this fauna and flora. it is ancient because it evolved to this condition today before humans came along. a half billion years ago of evolution. we are tinkering in a way that could be interest to our species. >> the extinction of the human race? >> i'm not sure about that. i like to call it a possible age of the remote is a lot -- remozo ique. we are moving to the age of loneliness. that could be dangerous to our survival. we don't know because we haven't

studied this enough to make a projection. who is doing poole remarkable works with relevance. >> the world authority on elephant behavior. she is one of the things she has she is theongosa, elephant whisperer. one of the things she has done is to approach elephant herds that survived and are growing under the control of matriarchs believe it or not, when the revolution or civil war was going on, elephants were being shot right and left. elephants are traumatized. when they got old enough to be matriarchs, the matriarchs

infected the younger generation with a hatred, a great fear. -- joyce has learned how to calm them down. that is one of the many tasks being performed in gorongosa. >> you're going to be 85 years old? you have said i'm just going to tell like it is, like ica. i don't care. >> i plan to do just that. >> what is it you going to tell us? >> i'm going to describe in a book forthcoming in october what i think science really tells us about the human condition. the title of the book, now you can see i'm willing to go into trouble water's, "the meaning of human existence."

i'm going to face some of the questions philosophers abandoned a long time ago. and theologians think they have solved but have not. the meaning of life. the meaning of human existence. i believe we should reenter a period of frank and open discussion of just who we are and where we are going. i would like to quote a french before world war ii. troublesall of man's come from the fact that we do not know what we are a cannot agree on what we want to be. i think until we enter those -- we answer those questions, we are going to continue to fraction and put ourselves deeper. >> give me an early indication of what you want to say that what we are. >> that means, unfortunately i

do cover it a bit in this book, it does mean that the anthropologists, archaeologists, the ecologists have now put together a pretty good picture of how humanity emerged as a species of my biological species, and a biological world. -- y they took the final steps during thelast half million years, ancestors we know, the ancestors of those ancestors we are sure of, and we know an increasing amount about their ancestors. creaturesquences from not far removed from apes in mental capacity. mo, our a series of ho

predecessors, in which the brain grew in volume. history'se the fastest evolutionary rate ever. he went from 400 cubic centimeters. that is a chimp size. centimeters in rectus.-- in homo er ugly, weup with this look ugly to a self-respecting african primate, we don't have you to. things goals -- we don't have those beautiful skulls. we had to put all that memory capacity somewhere if we win up to 1400 cubic centimeters. >> the growth of the brain enabled us. >> it is now increasingly clear.

to me and many others, including social psychologists, this has everything to do with the increasing ability of groups of and byto cooperate, intricate signaling, read toentions and then to move cooperative groups. once that was started, the great advantage was given to what we consider social intelligence, and analytic intelligence. we have the capacity to divide leather -- labor skillfully and build our nests >>. had used by the power of religion? >> travel. let's take it from the top down briefly. one of the innate traits of humans that is innate, it moves us all, it compels us all,

what one might call spirituality , a transcendent quality in which we are constantly seeking a meaning. we are seeking what we can believe in, and that includes afterlife, it often includes that there must be a maker that explains it all. but, that is something that is universal and tends to unite people. it is the creation stories, and , eachts with one another religion has a different faith. from one another and they are in conflict with one another. this is the reason why they have us, aowerful appeal to magnetic force.

tribes.ined almost certainly humans evolved by competing in tribes. >> did you have some conflict or verbal battle with richard dawkins? >> yes. that was a technical matter. richard dawkins -- >> he is an atheist. >> i wasn't arguing with religion. i was arguing about the evolution of human, advanced human behavior. he had been writing books himself along with a large scientistscience and using the theory of selection. kinship, thewith driving force for the origin of human behavior and society.

that prevailed for quite a few years. found0 years ago, i serious flaws when i began to go into it more deeply. soon i was joined by a couple of mathematicians at harvard of the first rank. mathematical analytical ability of considerable ethical considerable difficulty to follow through the applications of that theory, all they could explain, and when they finished it was found to be short. we published a paper, we have others coming out and reducing a theory, moresible closely related to what we understand about the genetics of evolutionary change. that is the dispute. i haven't heard from richard lately. disputed -- i mean,

we angrily disputed. on neither more reasoning the evidence, nor the mathematicians analysis had been rebutted. >> it hasn't been rebutted. >> >> it hasn't. it is just one of those things that occur in science. >> speaking of that. you 85 years old. when you look back on a brilliant career as a scientist, have you made any serious misjudgments that you had to, on further learning annex will ration, you can say i had that wrong? >> sure. one of the ones we just talked about. and, let's see. a brilliant,

mathematician and the theory of island biogeography. it has had an influence. it is beginning to fall apart it little bit. studies that shows what we produced was a simple vocation. you have to start somewhere. that would be one mistake if i can admit it. >> how bad is global warming today? >> it is potentially lethal. >> lethal? >> lethal, yes. we are not trying to stop it. we're at the level of some of thewarmest periods of geological history of earth. if we keep going and don't seem to have any will to stop it, it al is goingn that col

to be the cheapest fuel, and use by china big-time. >> that is true. they are looking for alternatives with more ferocity. solid 3.5 ant a attempt. we will have to do something more drastic than what we have been doing because we are entering new territory. >> do you think people are looking for some magical bullet, some silver bullet that will save the world? >> i keep thinking that. i keep thinking that fusion energy. that is like waiting for the second coming. i was in the conference a couple of years ago when the director held up a bottle of water and he said we are approaching the point of fusion.

if we can convert this into energy, the world can be fueled with that much. >> wow. when? >> i thought they were going to do it right away. [laughter] i started relaxing. i think, yes. >> other than stopping all the damage we are doing? fusion? >> here is what is important in my mind. the impetus to create alternative energy is powerful. i believe the best science and technology going to be focused on it. i think that will be achieved. what has got me very disturbed is that we are putting all of physicalht into the environment. the nonliving environment. we are forgetting the living environment. destroyinge, we are

more and more species, more more ecosystems faster and faster. in other words we are not even thinking of the consequences of destroying the rest of life. >> we are forgetting about the interdependence of us all. >> absolutely. we owe something to the rest of life. i would like to see that more seriously considered as a religious precept. >> i way to describe them. this is from the park. the first slide, beautiful as it is. can you see that? that is the sacred mountain. >> i had the privilege of being the first into molly just -- ist to go into the rain forest.

the red line drive forest. you're looking at the surface of a lake. brings a large number of analysts -- antelopes on it. a ghost to 6000 feet. it had not been examined in part because it was considered sacred. >> take a look at that. >> gorgeous falls coming down in the mountain range. these lovely creatures which would adorn anyone's living room , they are chameleons. this is an adult and young perched on top. reptilea new species of

which is found only on mount gorongosa. >> next slide. a katydid. see beautifully camouflaged against a lead. -- against a leaf. >> next. >> this is a baboon. they are everywhere including writing the kitchen at our camp. >> te what? -- to eat what? >> whatever they can still before they are driven out. >> the next one? predominant small monkey. >> they look different. look at the way its face is framed. >> it is a lovely creature.

[laughter] >> they are hot among others. -- next slide. >> that is my favorite animal. a warthog. they are bold and rip up the lawn, whatever remains of lawns around the camp. they are lovely to watch. >> next. >> here we have one of the first human artifacts. coming in, searching for evidence of the earliest humans and pre-humans, it wasn't long before early form of stone axe was made by human or prehuman. >> this shows? , theok how it is stationed

hippo house and the damage to the fence done by heavy rushing downs -- heavy machine guns a revolutionaries. >> this is a school. . talked to the students rt is being supported by car and usaid, helping these people around the park. >> next. >> that is a gigantic, a good size of a human fist, dung beetle. they eat the elephant dung. >> they are very happy with the elephant dung. they depend on it. >> dung beetles. >> that's the title for it. >> that is the ecosystem at

work. >> yes it is. we are just beginning to understand how it fits together. >> the park is a lot more time for that. >> that is a we continue to make it. >> next. >> one of 12 species of adults that are found in the park. we have a laboratory, i should mention, newly inaugurated for the purpose of finding out the biodiversity on the park. and to conduct scientific research and education. >> all the diversity and how it connects. next. >> that mosquito is standing level. head were standing on its while it took blood, you are talking about getting malaria. that would be it. this is a regular species. >> it still kills a lot of

people. >> malaria is horrible. 40% of the people mozambique are hiv positive. consequences to the authorization of mozambique after the civil war. we have the people, there is a long way to go. they are coming back wonderfully. they have a democracy. >> beautiful beaches there. >> they have some of the longest beaches in africa. all unoccupied. wonderfuld be a investment if you could get roses in their. that is the famous fly. they are miserable. now, this next one. >> yes. my favorite.

one of the nile crocodiles. i have a chapter in the book called the 20 foot crocodile. we know they get up to 16 to 17 feet. the possible existence of a 20 footer is one we want to track. aroundget killed gorongosa from rocker dial. >> one more. the elephants. look at that. >> that is a female telling you to stay away. >> because of the young one? --they are more grace of they more aggressive than other parts. likes to eternity." it is always good to see you.

>> good to see you again. thank you for having me. ♪

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