>> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> let me begin to talk about the ebola crisis.

what is new york state doing at its airports and overall in terms of being prepared? >> the ebola crisis poses two separate problems. one is the medical and public health issue. the second is the panic and anxiety issue that goes along with it. from the medical point of view it is a question of having the right protocols in place and making sure the hospitals understand and personnel and making sure they have the right equipment. we also have the airports where we work with the federal government on increased screening procedures. for us it is jfk, john f. kennedy airport and the guardia which are two very big airports. jfk is a big international

airport so we have focused on that airport. the port authority runs the newark airport so those procedures are in place and they are important and we are working very closely. >> have you doubled up? >> we have more procedures in place. the medical besiegers are about protocol, education about protocol and compliance. at the same time the dialogue on ebola, it is amazing how quickly panic can set in. a little anxiety can be healthy. we have to watch what we say and how we say it because panic is never productive. >> the amazing thing about it is so much seems to be unknown. how did this nurse contract the virus when she had all the protection that health care workers are supposed to have? >> right. it is not my field.

what they would say is the article is as good as the compliance with the protocol and something like ebola, you only get one mistake. you only get one slip up. and the protocols can be quite detailed, and if you make a mistake, you can expose yourself or expose other so it is very serious business. >> let me talk about this book, "all things possible," why that title? >> all things possible because the basic messages do not give up. do not give up in your arsenal life when you hit hard times. when you get knocked for a loop. which will probably happen somewhere along the way. do not give up. it also applies to where we are as a government, where we are as a society. we have a lot of big problems and a lot of big frustrations. do not give up. all things are possible. we can turn it around, you can turn around your own life and turn around the course of the state, you can turn around the country. >> let's talk about that. you are thinking about writing a book about loss. >> yes. when i went through, i had a

blessed youth in many ways and my career was doing great. i was one of the youngest cabinet secretaries, i was in the white house, flying around on air force one. everything was great. and -- >> married to a kennedy. >> it seems like one day i woke up and everything was terrible. it was from a great trajectory of success to abject failure. and for me, i can laugh about it now, i basically cried about it then. it was living my nightmare. i came back into new york after a great time in washington. and i ran for office, the same office that my father held. the distinction for 12 years. it was a disaster. >> you had to withdraw. >> right.

it was a nightmare scenario. we make it sound in all those commencement speeches like it is a straight line. you come out of college and you go to graduate school and then victory, victory, victory. and that is what happened. there were very few books on losing and how do you handle loss and what do you do with it and what did it mean, and how do you manage it. >> yet, so many politicians have lost in their career. ill clinton, a very successful politician, lost as governor at arkansas. your father lost campaigns and then he was governor of new york. >> there are very few success stories that did not have lost in the early chapters. that is why understanding loss and dealing with a can be

helpful. >> what did you understand about it? >> it forced me to look at issues i had not looked at. it forced me to reorder my priorities in life. and showed me what was really important. >> did you find that people saw a man who was different from yourself? you had come out at a young age of being a political manager were you have to make the hard decisions, you ran your father's campaigns and you're the guy who has to say now, you are the guy has to be tough and it creates a persona so that even people in albany called you the prince of darkness. >> and i talk about it in the book. it is almost always true somewhat in politics.

what people see and the impression people get, is that really me, is that supposed to be me? in my case there was no doubt that there was a difference between the perception and the reality. what i went through made me look at me. made me look in the mirror and really see what was going on and to try to learn from it. >> when you looked in the mirror you so what? >> when i looked in the mirror first instinct is to find excuses. right? which is probably helpful. when you're under such pain, you cannot accept the blame initially. i am a victim, it was somebody else, it was the weather, it was this.

i was misunderstood. i made a mistake. it was timing. the world is unfair. maybe how good we are at coming up with a creative explanation so it is not about our liability. if you are self-aware enough to get past that denial phase, then what was it that did not work? let's figure it out. let's fix it so it does not happen again. that is why the successful stories end up happening if you learn from the loss. you have to get up off the canvas. >> how did you do that? >> it was -- >> knowing that you had to do that first. >> you do not bounce it a bit the next morning and say, you have to go through a process.

you have to understand it will be a process. it is darkest before the dawn, i can tell you that for sure. i think i went at it analytically and i did educate myself and i did talk to people and i did read. i found that i did a lot of soul-searching, i reordered my priorities. >> from what to what? >> when you are in halle tics and in washington and you are in that was -- >> it is the only world you know. >> you have friends and

everybody wants to be your friend and you get invited to all the right parties and then you lose an election and like a light switch. the phone stops ringing. >> it was humiliating even in that election. you talk about seeing paul mccall running for that nomination as well and you feel like the clintons did not want to see you. that they were closer to him and they would leave before you had a chance to come over to see them. she would be walking with him. this was humiliating for a guy

who had been in the president's cabinet and a guy who had been a political operative. >> new york politics is a tough as this and it is binary, charlie. it is -- >> is that the fact that the clintons gave you the cold shoulder? >> understated. >> you did not understand it at the time. >> i did not appreciate it at the time but i understood it and i understood the political circumstances they were operating in. it gave me a different reality to deal with that i think was true or to a long-term, stable

reality. i found a lot of comfort, frankly, in my family, and my three girls. i thought i was going to spend time with my daughters because i was worried about what they were feeling about going through a divorce. i was going to help them. they wound up helping me. and in many ways, they were the safe place and spending time with them actually was more beneficial to me i think that it was to them. a small group of real friends who were friends when you win or lose and that is what is important. so all in all, i think it turned out to be a net positive. >> you did not want a divorce. you believed you could work it out. you have had many problems as marriages have problems enter press secretary comes in. >> what it says, the way it actually happened was, my wife was saying she wanted a divorce. i did not want to hear it. i could not hear it. denial is a powerful force. i was going to fix this. and it would not happen. i could not conceive of it happening. it was that terrible. my wife at the time cap saying i want a divorce but i could not hear it and he became real when a reporter said, i am reporting on it, it will be in the newspaper. >> that she will ask for divorce. >> that moment was undeniable.

it is now in the newspaper and it became tabloid fodder, and i was in total denial. i did not want to hear it. i could not accept it. we will fix it whatever it is. >> you know what being a politician was like a pleasure father was a politician. away from home at crucial times. do you repeat that, you are not devoting as much time to home as you do now. >> i did repeat it. early on. that was a mistake. when i was in washington, my girls were born while i was in washington. i was in the clinton cabinet. and we were working all the time. that was the culture of that administration. we did a lot of good things that that was a seven day a week administration. it is a big country and i was all over the country. and i did work too hard and took too much time for my family and i took too much time for my marriage and i paid for it. i have not made that mistake the second time around. >> how do you know? >> because i have spent so much

time with my daughter's that they say please, go to work. don't you have something to do? you are governor. can you please find something to do and leave us alone? >> and to find another woman helps you come to grips with what happened as well. and what a supportive and there is tomorrow. how are you different beyond that? are you a different person? >> i am a different person and that i take all this with a grain of salt now. >> not the end-all. >> it is not where i live. it is what i do and what i do now and i take that very seriously but it will be over one day. one day i will not be governor of new york just like one day my father was not governor of new york and one day i was not secretary of housing and urban development. that is the real life that i am calibrated to. i have been given this great

opportunity for a short time to do good things for the state and i am so appreciative of it and i work very hard at it, but that is not reality. one day will be over and that is ok. that is ok. >> your life is in politics. >> but it ends. i definition, it ends. >> tell us the story of your dad running for a fourth term against george pataki. he is lying on a bed and his suit, and with him is his acceptance speech or thank you speech and you have to go in and say to him what? >> he went into the room, the hotel suite that night, polls closed at 9 p.m. and he went into the room at 10 minutes to nine with his acceptance speech and said he wanted to rehearse the speech a little bit him a close his eyes, and relax before having to go down and give the acceptance speech in the

ballroom. and he walked into the room thinking he had won the race, the exit polls all day said he had won the race. it turned out after 9 p.m., the polls closed and they rerun the numbers, the model they used on the exit polls was wrong, he is actually going to lose the race by a couple of points. and i had to tell him this. that is why i wanted to the room and he was as you said, he was laying on the bed fully dressed and he had his eyes closed and his hands folded on his chest, and he was just not quite dozing but calming himself, ready to go down and give the speech. and i just stood there because i did not know what to say and he opened his eyes and he looked at me.

and when he looked at my face, we knew each other so well, he knew right away that something was wrong. and all i could say was, we are going to need another speech. he did not say a word. he got up and we started writing a second speech, but it was a shock, it was a shock. you did not expect it. frankly, he did not deserve it, so it was a shock. >> i want to read you something that a friend of mine who knows you in state government said about the two of you. andrew is the polar opposite of his father and he lacks his father's vision, but is a man of action, not words and is much more effective in his capacity to mobilize legislature and get things done. is there a difference between your -- is that a fair appraisal of you and your father? >> you do what you need to do at

that time for public service. i do not think it is about what you are comfortable doing and what you would prefer to do, or what your personal characteristics would have you do. it's you should do the role that is needed at that time. when my father was governor, his purpose was to convince the people of this state and the people of the country about the need for government and the possibility of government. i see my role differently now create i think people get the need and the possibility. i think he was successful and others like him were more successful in articulating the need.

>> this came at a time and part when president reagan talking about government is not -- >> he was the juxtaposition to trickle down to my government is the problem, not the solution. let the free market work. the total retrenchment from in collective action. my father was the antidote to that. and the articulator of the opposite theory. >> people think you're much more centrist than he was even though it is a different time, that the things he believed in were much more liberal and progressive and you can point to the fact that you supported same-sex marriage and supported -- and you came out strongly for gun control and you had an appeal there but you also were a guy who cut taxes and did some other things at a

time of the progressive wing of the democratic party may be saying is he one of us? >> obviously, i talked to my father. i cannot think of an issue that i would address where he is said to me even privately, i would not do that. it is a function of the time. the state is in a much different face and it was 20, 30 years ago. we are now fighting with neighboring states to keep businesses, to keep residential homeowners in the state. when my father was governor, we did not have this level of competition. you could move to connecticut,

jersey, florida, north carolina, back to north carolina. we are in competition and you did not have that same sense during i father's time. what our tax rate is makes a difference. so on the economics, i have pressures that he did not have. on the social issues, this is still the progressive capital of the nation. >> some people believe the mayor of the city has taken that progressive label and when people in new york think about the liberal progressive and style of mario cuomo, they think of de blasio. >> he represents new york city, i represent new york state. my constituents are in new york city but i represent the whole state, and there is a difference

between upstate and downstate. by ideology there is a difference, so they are very different jobs and two very different constituencies with two different sets of values. in my position at the end of the day, i have to make sure that this state is economically competitive, and i have to make sure that the tax situation keeps us competitive, so yes, i reduced taxes all across the board, not just for the rich. the middle class has paid lower taxes than they have since the 1950's. we cut the waste and fraud. from my point of view, that is exactly what we should be doing. that is what a progressive should be doing. when did it become written in the bible that are aggressive

politics is running an inefficient, bloated government? no. progressive politics is running an efficient, streamlined government that actually gets results and performs more money, more money, more money. that is not the mantra. >> what is the difference other than de blasio runs new york city and you run the state? in terms of how you see the world? >> i think we see the world the same way. i think you represent upstate new york which has economic pressures that downstate does not have. >> the politics are more conservative. >> upstate, politics are more conservative, you could say,

definitely. economically, they are in a much harder position the new york city. upstate economy is one of the slowest in the united states and it has been for a very long time. they cannot compete with high taxes, charlie. and it is one thing for new york city that has a set of unique assets. upstate new york is in a tougher economic position and i have to make sure they have a tax structure that allows people to stay there and businesses to go there because they have seen a reduction and economic strength. decade after decade. >> let me go back to your father for a second. did you blame yourself because you did not leave washington to come run that campaign for him?

>> in part. >> you did. >> in part. >> you felt guilty. >> yes. >> how did you express it to him? >> i do not know that i ever did. i should have come back. >> we would have won if i did come back. >> i do not know if i used those words. >> because the andrew cuomo at that time could not apologize? >> because those words are hurtful. he knows how i feel. it was a tough place. i had always been helpful to him, obviously, from his first campaign. i was in washington, i had started a new family, i was an assistant secretary of the department of housing and urban men which is a big deal, a senate confirmed position, etc. >> he also had this thing that he liked to come back to albany and sleep in his own bed. >> always. from anywhere. >> even if he was in san francisco. >> always. >> that famous speech. he came back. is some of that in you?

>> not to that extreme. i think he got there over time. the basic point started that i am the governor of new york, i get paid to be the governor, i should be here. something happens, a storm, flood, i should be here. and if i am gallivanting around the country or gallivanting around the world but then i am not somewhere i am supposed to be and that will start speculation that i want to be something else. my father got a little extreme. california and back on the plane. >> people said what a great speech. >> back on the plane in coach with a bag of pretzels. >> is that it? so today, where were you on the night that you won the time mary, the democratic primary. people said he was not out there celebrating. what does that say about you? >> the democratic armory was not the most hotly contested race. >> they did better than many thought you would do.

40% of the vote is not that against a sitting governor. >> it was a very skewed election in that the turnout was very low. precisely for that reason. people did not think there was -- there was nothing else really on the ballot. people did not think it was a major threat although it was a much reduced turnout. >> nevertheless, there are those who interpreted it this way. that she was more progressive and was able to make an appeal to progressives in new york that you are not liberal enough. >> i do not know if it was that it was that. i have, it depends on what you think a progressive should be doing. i have taken on the public employees unions. why? because the state was going bankrupt and i do not believe

that a progressive means inefficient management. i do not. if that is what progressive means, progressives are in trouble. i took on the public employee unions, they are a main supporter of the democratic "liberal establishment." and my opponents are the people against me he came her supporters. the teachers union, i have issues with. why? >> what issue do you have? >> i am pushing aggressively teacher performance and evaluations. the state spends more than any other state in the nation per student on education. more than any other state. we are dead middle of the pack in terms of performance. i want to know what teachers

perform, what schools perform, the high-performing teachers should get a bonus and a low performing teachers should get help. the high-performing schools should get a bonus and incentive and the lower performing schools should get help. this has caused friction with the teachers union. i understand that. but to me, education is not about the teachers union, it is about the student, and we lost that somewhere along the way. so who is the progressive? the person who is willing to take on the union to focus on the student or the person who pledges allegiance to the union? when did progressive mean that i am the supporter of the bureaucracy for the program, rather than i am an advocate for the goal? >> you did not debate your opponent. it does not seem like an andrew cuomo who is confident, who

believes in his argument and thinks he has the right ideas, who made the argument you made to me. >> to me it was not the most serious of all electoral contests. there were issues that developed. it was not a serious race. i am now in the general election. they were differences between me and my opponents. i proposed and accepted two debates and we will see what they say. >> what will you say? >> i will serve four years. will i break my promise? >> you know what i mean. if somebody says you will not make a pledge to run for president in 2016, will you sign it? >> i will not run for president. >> that is what everyone says. it will be hard for you if for some reason, assuming that secretary clinton runs, you will

be supporting her with enthusiasm. >> right. click she does not run. how can you resist doing what you must feel your father had a chance to do and did not do? and you probably wished he had done. >> well, you have a couple of theories on that. what my father did, you cannot counsel anyone, you should run for president, or i wish you had run for president. that has to be a burning desire that you have that you are so sure you want to do this. it is like counseling someone, you should marry this woman. either you feel it or you do not. >> is there a lot about politics that is like romance? >> more than you would guess. he did not feel it erie it he did not want it badly enough at the end of the day. i respected that. >> did you understand it? >> i understand him so i understood it.

>> so you, do you have the burning desire to be resident? >> the only burning desire i have now is to be the best possible governor i can be. we have had a great four years. we have had great progress and i have a burning desire to continue the next four and bring the state to an even better place. we have the opportunity to do phenomenal things here. >> what is the most important thing to accomplish if you are reelected governor? >> i want to finish the job that we have started. we have started turning around economies in the state that have been depressed for decades. our mutual friend tim russert, when we were in our 20-somethings, tim went on and on about how the town had lost hope and lost faith. >> his hometown. >> yes. nobody cared. buffalo is making tremendous

progress. cities that were losing young people now believe again. turning around this education system. it does not work. every politician gives a great speech about how education is our future and everyone knows the public education system is not doing what it needs to do and it is going to be a disruptive shift and it is going to upset unions and parents and pta's. that is progressive government. progressive government works. progressive government gets results. when i say i have a different mission than my father, my father convinced people of the concept of progressive government. especially in opposition to the reagan era. i see my mission as proving to them that it can actually work efficiently, effectively.

everyone will say the same thing to you. if i know my tax dollars will actually go to an education system that will educate a child, i would pay the taxes, but they think the issue in array, the bureaucracy does not work. and many times, they are right. well, then -- >> is this more a republican argument? >> the conservative argument will be government does not work. you are wasting your time. it cannot work. let the free market work and anything the free market does not do, charity should do. that is the conservative argument. nice and simple and all these government programs and bureaucracies are either counterproductive or waste of money. i think the vindication and the advancement of the progressive

dream and goal is, making these concepts of reality. making education systems work. please, make the transportation system work please. make the housing system work, please. make the security system work, please. i am afraid of isis. i want to believe that government can actually protect me. show me that it can but not with words. i heard the speeches. i have heard them all. i want to see the results and the performance, and that is what i am focused on. >> are we going to see you at the end of this first term, when you begin to make foreign trips,

you went to israel and afghanistan. what is that about? >> that is about specifically at that time the rise of isis, the rise of terrorism, the recognition that there is a new normal when it comes to terrorism, the way we have a new normal when it comes to climate change and extreme weather. there is a different weather pattern. there is a new normal. we have floods, we have hurricanes we never had. >> does this say a governor should be interested in foreign affairs, or she should have a foreign policy, she should have a comprehension of where the this country fits in the world? >> you know you're at the top of

the list for any terrorist. new york city, new york state, you are at the top of the list. you learn that the hard way. several times. the security and making sure people in the state are secure, public safety is job one, and understanding the dynamics that is driving it. i do not believe it is going away. i do not believe this gets better. i believe this is a new normal. i believe this isis, there are a number of groups. >> are you supportive of what the president has done? could he do more? >> i support the president on his war on terror. he is the commander-in-chief. he calls the shots. i do not think we can do enough. this is the new reality. >> you know the criticism of the president. at a time when he was asked to support and secretary clinton

said we need to do more and the defense secretary all said we should do more and the president said no. >> it is not about yesterday and i will not second-guess the president. it is about tomorrow and working cooperatively with the government to make sure the city and state are secure. >> why do you think his numbers are so low? >> it is a tough time out there. i think the economy, the numbers say good things. i do not think people feel it and this is been a long slog, this economy, and it is not where we wanted to be. i think that is driving a lot of anxiety on both ends of the political spectrum. >> what would you recommend the theme or the great narrative if secretary clinton runs out to be? >> there are two great challenges. make the government work, performance results. these are frightening times. ebola, the government had better know what it is doing. government better know what it is doing because it does not, we will not be safe from these terrorist threats.

>> you should be prepared if the military believes it necessary to put combat troops on the ground. if isis is that threat, you have to resist it and they are within reach of baghdad. >> i think the threat is worse than isis. it will be isis today, it will be another group next week and another group. >> not just in the middle east? >> that is exactly right. i believe we have to go down two tracks simultaneously. try to reduce the anger and the hatred before it gestates, and you need the security systems in place here at home because they are coming. the only question is when. the other challenge is going to be the economy. >> what does the economy need that it does not have? doesn't need increased demand, for corporations to spend more

money, does it need some way to create some stimulus, to create more demand? >> we have a crisis in the economy and that is what -- >> in service or business? >> on both ends. people do not feel it. they do not believe in it. confidence has so much to do with the marketplace. consumer confidence, business confidence, investor confidence. i think a lot of the political extremes and the heat coming from the extremes is generated by this long-term economic anxiety. we have had cycles before, but they were quick downs and quick ups. this is a slow drip and it is six or seven years. >> there is a democratic president. and the senate is democratic. what happens if the senate goes republican? >> it is going to be interesting at that point. ♪

>> let me talk about things that are not in the book. the moreland commission is not in the book.

i do not know a single issue that people are more critical of you. you understand that. you believed the commission was created to look into corruption, and you abolished the commission. that is the way people see it in the public. >> that is the way it has been communicated. that is not the fact and reality. this is a political dispute more than anything. i wanted the legislature to pass a law, an ethics reform law. i said if you do not, i will appoint a moreland commission to investigate. the legislature did not pass the law. i created the commission. i then said, if you pass the law, i will decommission the commission.

because i want the law. the legislature passed the law. 85% of the law i wanted. they did not pass something called the public finance which many of the editorial boards of new york support which i support, which is controversial, and happens not to be supported by the people of the state and the legislature would not pass public finance. but i got 85% of what i wanted. i take 85% of the bill. the criticism was you should have waited for public finance and gotten 100%. and you should have kept the commission going until you had public finance. >> you were smart enough to know that the appearance was you created a commission and then canceled it. and the commission was to investigate corruption. >> yes.

but the purpose was to get the law passed. >> would you do it again? >> i would have communicated more extensively the purpose of the commission, because -- >> it seems like legalisms, as you know. >> we did not need another commission. >> it was your commission. you must know the political risk of saying we are canceling this and how hard it is to explain that. you found out. >> i did not explain it before the fact which was a mistake. i should have said, more often than i said, when i get the law passed, if they pass a law, i will decommission the effort. and also part of it is they are saying you got 85%, you did not

get 100. you should have held out for 100%. you should have held out for public finance and we think you made a bad deal. if i had to hold out for 100% in four years, i would not have passed the bill. my job is all about moving forward with compromise and this legislature was not going to pass with a wanted which was public finance. this is still a democracy. we are in an election cycle now. the best way to get public finance is to elect legislators who will pass public finance because the current legislators will not. >> let me ask about you into things. this is an observation, he knows how to use the instrument's of power but he relies on a handful of close aides. he does not delegate power and he is not able to attract top talent. he is not comfortable with evil he does not know well. >> this administration has had the best talent the state has had i believe in modern political history. i know everybody who has been in every administration. we have gotten a tremendous

amount done. we have broken every record. you look at the progress the state has made, it has been phenomenal in four years. 17.4 million jobs. we are number two in job creation. we had a budget passed, every credit agency increased their rating. it has been an outstanding record. that does not happen without a team. you micromanage, delegate more. hands on, you are too hands-on. >> they say you do not suffer. >> you push too hard. you micromanage. >> yes. all of that. do you plead guilty or not? >> you cannot have one without the other. i plead guilty. >> if you say to people if there

is something about andrew cuomo you do not like, you it is because i am the way i am that we have this. i do not -- i am a delegator. i said you elect me, i work for you 24 hours a day, seven days a week. if there's a problem, it is my responsibility. if it goes wrong, it is my responsibility. in four for years i have never said it was him. i never said it was this person or this person or all the legislatures or this. my responsibility. >> you can go to albany and find people around you who would say,

governor, you're simply wrong. people who advise you. >> all the time. they enjoy it. i enjoy hearing it. i do not need to hear what i am doing well or what i am doing right. i need to hear what i am not doing right. that is how you help me. >> you said you learned a lot. you are on the floor. you had to get up. did you say to yourself, at times, i have been too ambitious, i have been too anxious? your first run for political office was not for the city council. it was not for lieutenant governor. it was not for congressman. it was for governor. governor. is there a bit of too much ambition to soon in andrew

cuomo? is that one of the lessons? >> that was lesson 1, 2, and three. i think that was -- it was an overreach in running for governor. coming out of the clinton administration. it was a terrible political judgment. >> there is the sense that somehow, there is about you something that somehow rubs people the wrong way occasionally. do you understand that? does that resonate with you at all? it may go back to the prince of darkness and albany. i do not know where it comes from. there is a bit of that. i asked people, what should i ask him? what do you want to accomplish,

learning from loss, they also say, -- >> i think it depends. campaign manager for my father as a young person created a certain image and it was a certain role and by the way, that was the job. you are campaign manager running against the system. it is all up hill and it is new york halle, and it is rough-and-tumble. >> win at all costs? >> this is hardball and it is the fast pitch cage, and that is what it is. it is new york politics. you do not have the stomach for it, they do not care if you are 19 or 55. so it was a very tough business. now, i think what you look at what i have done in four years as governor. i have by relationships accomplished a great deal. the governor of new york, you do

not have that much power in the job description, believe it or not. i was attorney general before i was governor. you have more constitutional power. as governor, you want to get anything done, you have to get it done with other people. you need the assembly. you need the senate. you need democrats, you need republicans. we have had unparalleled success in putting together those coalitions. washington talks about gridlock. they have gridlock. they think they have discovered gridlock. they did not discover gridlock. albany discovered gridlock.

we had 30 years, 23 budgets were late. an average of two months. this was real gridlock, new york style. it was tough. we did the exact opposite. for budgets passed for the first time in 30 years. >> what you described is some of the qualities that president obama had not had. >> it is true that you have gridlock in washington. >> you have had to work with republicans. >> i have had to work with republicans. i have a senate that is controlled by republicans. i understand you have to get the republicans to agree and you have to get the democrats to agree. that is when you'd tend to say, when you ask, the far left is unhappy with certain things -- i heard the far left. they are unhappy with certain things. i had the republican senate. i have to get this passed. that requires a balance in all these measures. >> i will read you the last paragraph. americans are the rare souls and offering the people who are

brave enough to get into small votes to cross great oceans to come to a faraway land and they build the greatest nation on earth and continued to be the global force of freedom. pioneer and immigrant blood is in the veins of this country. that is the resilient, supportive character of this nation. that is what makes all things possible which is the title of your book. governor, thank you. >> my pleasure. >> andrew cuomo for the hour. thank you for joining us. see you next time. ♪

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