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>> he has built some of the world's biggest pop stars. justin bieber, ariana grande, and carly rae jepsen. it started when scooter braun stumbled across a youtube video of a kid in a canadian talent show. that kid was justin bieber. braun is the manager who catapulted him to superstardom. but as the music industry goes through dramatic transformations, ron is
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is reinventing his own empire, producing movies and tv shows, investing in tech companies like hoover and interest, and looking for more stars he can make along the way. joining me today on "studio 1.0," is rising pop manager scooter braun. you were raised in connecticut. you are the son of a dentist and an orthodontist. >> that's true. >> did you every in a million years think you would he dominating pop music? >> i don't know that i am dominating pop music. i am just having a good time. when i was younger, i thought like every kid that i wanted to play in the nba and nobody told
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me i would grow up to be 5'11". one thing led to another. i read a couple of books the kind of inspired me and here i am. >> what kind of music was scooter braun listening to when he was 13 years old? >> 13? that was my bar mitzvah circuit. [laughter] i like to "move it, move it." how i was a big michael jackson fan. i like boys ii men. i was the first kid in the suburbs who liked biggie. my roommates were from harlem. i went back to these suburbs and when it was on the radio, i felt i owned it. it gave me for the first time the sense of self discovery. ing?an you s >> no. >> can you dance? >> my first job ever was dancing at bar mitzvah weddings on the weekends for $150. >> what was your instrument? >> my ear. i knew what songs make people dance. my grandparents were holocaust survivors and my parents did not grow up with a lot, really nothing. knowing i was the first generation to have a little bit of something, i wanted to not receive anything and i wanted to
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work harder than everyone to make my own mark in the world. >> you went to college but school did not suit you, it seems. >> yeah, i went to emory university in atlanta. i found myself wanting to do business, not wanting to sit in class. unfortunately, i started selling fake ids for about two months and then i realized i was going to get caught. i was really good though. >> it worked? >> yeah, it worked. >> you became a promoter, a party promoter when you were 19? >> yes. the reason i dropped out of school was there was a guy who sat me down and told me the story of robert woodruff, the guy of coca-cola, the largest endowment at emory. he gets me. at the end, he tells me that robert woodruff was one in a billion, and a chance of you being a robert woodruff is impossible. you need to stay in school and stop with this pipe dream. i said that you very much.
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he said, are we cool? and i said, yes i am dropping , out of college. >> do you think he was wrong? >> i don't think he cares. i want my kid to go to college. [laughter] it wasn't that. i don't like the fact that he told me i was -- i shouldn't believe in my dream. while we are young, this is when we should take chances. >> what was your dream? >> at the time, i read a book of one of the founders of dreamworks, david geffen. and then i read a book about richard branson. the truth is i just wanted to be , an entrepreneur. >> you became quite the celebrity on the atlanta hip-hop scene. ceelo went to your parties, you pretty big. >> i was a good party promoter. got to a point where i was not throwing their parties. they were going to my. giving me an opportunity opened up a whole world for me.
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but it could have been steve rivkin. he was the first person to give me a record deal for asher roth when no one did. >> how are you looking for talent in the early days? >> everyone thinks that every act i have ever signed has blown up because we have been on a crazy run. but i had to learn the hard way. i failed. what is the myth of scooter reality?d what is the >> the myth is that i plug them into this machine. it is hard work. every single day is hard work and i think there was a point in my career when i felt i had done such a good job that i went from being ok scooter braun entrepreneur to being justin bieber's manager. i think people think that success is this beautiful glamorous thing.
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i get paid to do the bull-[beep]. i am too stupid to know i shouldn't be doing some things. >> what is your secret? >> the first time i saw justin, i knew that i could get him to be a worldwide pop star. i knew it in my gut. ♪ >> justin bieber, psy, arianna
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grande, what is your secret? >> sometimes it is a gut thing. like, i know what it is and i know what i have to do. the gangam style was a phenomenon here. but also the reason it worked so well is he could do it live. justin is one of the most talented people i have ever met. he has so much pressure on him. growing up in front of the entire world.
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but i think he is handling it fairly well and he will learn from his mistakes and become a better man for it. and arianna has one of the best voices i have ever heard in my entire life. >> how are you different from other managers? >> people say you should not mix visits with pleasure and i think that is bs. personally, if you care about someone, you'd care about them, you will stay up the extra hours to do something for them and vice versa. i have been called stupid by plenty of my mentors who say you are too close. but i think it is better to feel them not feel. >> how do you make sure some of these artists are not just a pan? in the >> my promise is not that i will make you the biggest superstar in the world and you will have the longest career of all-time.
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>> arianna grande, how much longevity does she have? >> she is an incredibly young singer. there are very few people on the planet who can sing like that. it is really on her. she is 21 years old now. as long as she keeps making the right music, it can last forever. >> carly rae jepsen, when i hear the song "call me maybe," i cannot stop singing. issue more than a one-hit wonder? >> technically, carly did "good time" too. >> ok, a two-hit wonder. >> she has more. >> bieber heard her song on the radio and brought her to you. did you ever foresee how it would take off? >> yes. i will like you. i thought it would be massive the first time i heard it. the first time i heard justin, i knew i could get him to be a worldwide popstar. i knew in my gut.
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"call me maybe" it was like that. i said, wait a second, people will do this dance and go crazy and kids who don't know how to re going to tryd ar to sing along. [laughter] i called scott manson who sent it to me. i said find this guy. 60,000 views, it is going to be a huge hit. >> you found him at 60,000 views? >> yes, 66,000 views. >> now over 2 billion. >> everyone said the same thing. there is no way you will be able to make this record work. it is a korean pop song. >> what happened when you saw the video of justin bieber? >> a 12-year-old kid who had i think eight videos at the time. he was singing at a contest at a church.
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i was consulting for acon on a different artist and i was watching youtube videos of that artist telling them what i thought of it. they were singing aretha franklin's "respect." there was a kid in the distance and it was a little tiny thing and i thought it was the same person. so i clicked on the 12-year-old kid. >> so it was an accident? >> yes and then i watched another video and another video. when i saw this little canadian kid with so much soul, i knew there was something there. >> you were the first beliber. mom and him down and brought them in illegally. >> they were canadian. i brought them here illegally
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and hid them here illegally. i put them up in a townhouse under my name. >> you paid the bills. >> yeah, and i got a tutor and they became my family. it has been a rough year for me watching him because i care about him. you don't want to see him going through stuff. but to see him coming out on the other end of that right now and knowing the plans for next year and the fact that, you know, he is a kid. i have had to learn that it's ok to let him step on that rake and let it hit him in the head. he has learned from his mistakes and he will be a better man for it. he gets it. he said, i want to go shopping in france and all i want to do is go down the street and shop. i don't want to bother anybody that there were 14 cameras around and 200 reporters. i said, it's ok, it's my life. i think he has become a young man. >> what kind of advice are you giving him? >> through the last year, i argued like hell with him. we got in a huge fight. i was frustrated. i don't want to see him go through crap. >> you see so many sorted kids that can spiral out of control in hollywood.
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how do you manage that as their manager? when you are dealing with teenagers? >> honestly, it is like parenting. i have got the best advice not from my parents. when people go through stuff, you have to be a rock. you have to be solid. you can't be contradicting yourself. you can't be a yes man. justin got discovered because because people fell in love with him thought he was raw singing on the street. ♪
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>> technology is changing and social media is moving so fast. people can listen to music so many different ways for free. how do you encourage your artists to change, to innovate, in their own career, to manage that? >> i don't think you can fight the times. you have to come to terms with the fact that album sales will never be what they were. the consumption of music is at an all-time high. the sharing of music worldwide
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has never been this big before. you have to change perspective. if they discover something on pandora or they see a youtube clip of an artist on instagram or any of these platforms or they are discovering a fan club and they become obsessed with it, i tell my artists to make music you love, make art that you love, help people make the people you love do their job and be a good performer. the consumer will dictate what they want. my job is to make sure that my artist can give them a shot. have fun. let me worry about it. >> what are you worried about? >> are we innovating? are we disrupting? are we waking up every morning and saying, ok, what cool [beep] can we do today? >> how are you disrupting?
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>> i am using the new media. i am hiring young, smart, innovative people and saying teach me. thinking outside the box. when people say that's crazy, ok, good, we found it. the moment somebody says that is crazy, i usually run in that direction. >> elvis presley's manager was too controlling and you have been compared to him. how do you respond to the criticism? to hear yourtering name mentioned and comparison to elvis anything, and one thing is i am never, ever, ever going to that guycommission took. >> how do you structure the business relationship? >> i structure it industry standard and i try to over deliver and i try to do as may jobs as i can for the price of one so my artist doesn't have to
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go to many places and there are not too many chefs in the kitchen. that may be where the criticism comes to where i am try to control too much. what i am try to do is find as many jobs in one place so it's a one-stop shop. >> how can an artist make money in unexpected ways, if not with an album or touring? >> you can build brands just like culture. he took all the culture of all the artists he had relationships with and he built an empire. >> what you think about apple bringing beats and bringing dre onboard? >> i don't know their exact plans. i met dre a couple of times and i know jimmy. you don't bet against a guy like jimmy. >> what about apple? i know you are an investor in spotify and pandora. can they continue to dominate music? >> i don't know that it's domination. i think there is enough room for all these platforms because people want to consume in different ways and there's so much content.
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>> you are also a tech investor. >> yeah. >> uber, pinterest -- how are you getting into these deals? what attracted you to technology? >> when i was in college, facebook launched. i actually e-mailed the creator of facebook, which was on the contact page. there was one profile picture and responded with edgewater of sovereign -- eduardo salverin. i didn't know what it was going to become. i said we should build this thing. i still have the e-mail. mark has decided to bring in more schools. at this time, we don't want to bring in any more investors. >> you are making movies. "the giver."
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you are making tv shows. how is that different from making music? >> my mom isn't very impressed with anything i do in music. but introducing my mom to meryl streep as the headliner in "the ," it's the best. >> team score, one more time. the same guy who found psy brought walter o'brien to meet me. maybe we could do something on tv or film. we just went on this run together and see the success and see how people are loving the show. it's been so much fun. >> tell me about ithaca. >> i never talk about that.
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i believe there is power in numbers and power in collaboration. i believe that managers and creators should come together and work together in alliance. and i put together a group of my friends and it is an alliance of guys who get together and meet and try and help each other build their businesses. there is more than enough to go around. >> so this is a fund. >> there is a fund aspect when we are together. we have ideas and we want to go after things together, we can. >> what is the next big trend in music? what is coming? >> voices. >> you mean someone who connection racing? >> -- you mean someone who can actually sing? >> people fell in love with justin bieber because he was raw on the street playing his guitar and singing his butt off. >> how much potential is there to make more? >> when i did it with justin, there were so many people who
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said you cannot just hire acts off of youtube. i want to see the visual. i think it is happening over and over again. i think we have lots of stars who come from social media and we are going to have a lot more. that is how people are discovering it. >> philanthropy is very important to you. how do you integrate that in your work? >> every aspect of what we do has to have the charity involved. every dollar we make has to have some kind of charitable component involved. with our shows we try to give a , dollar from every ticket sold to charity and i have never had an artist say no to that. >> you have been put on lists of influential people in critical. how old are you -- and creative people. how old are you? >> 33. >> you're only 33? >> i think i am in the best phase of my life right now. i just got married. over the next five to 10 years,
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my real priority be on that is that i want to build a family. i think that is something i am really proud of and more young people should see people in the entertainment industry who are successful and know that you don't have to give up everything to have that. >> so you can't sing. you can't dance. you can't really play an instrument. >> it is like a phil collins song. >> but you can do pretty good impressions. [laughter] president, i hear. president obama. >> my wife michelle among my daughters sasha and malia, from the top to the bottom, we are going to bring it back, move it forward very we are going to create change and we are going to bring it back again. god bless america. >> bill clinton. >> you know, i just want to say that being a manager, justin bieber and ariana grande, all these young people, it's cool, cool. >> scooter braun, thank you so much for joining us.
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