>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." the republican party swept to victory in the midterm elections.

they retook the senate with ease houseso at his enough seats to have their largest majority since world war ii. it was seen as a harsh referendum on president obama, who said his policies were on the ballot. the president spoke about the new status quo. >> the key is to make sure the ideas i have overlapped somewhere with some of the ideas republicans have. there is not going to be a perfect overlap, and there are have to be some ideas i that i think the evidence backs up would be good for the economy. republicans disagree. they are not going to support those ideas. i'm going to keep arguing for them because i think they are the writing for the country to do. there will be some ideas they think will improve the economy or create jobs that my perspective -- is not going to help middle-class families improve their economic

situations. i probably will not support those. i do think there are areas where we well agree. remarks follow a press conference by mitch mcconnell. he struck a consolatory note as well. >> i would like to remind people divided government is not unusual in this country. we have had it frequently, probably even more often than not since world war ii. when the american people choose it, i don't think it means they don't want us to do anything. i think it means they want us to look for areas of agreement. >> joining me are mark halperin and john heilemann. i am pleased to have them back at this table. what is interesting surprising, what should we take note of? >> the scale of the republican sweep is pretty striking. we were here on monday.

we were saying the odds were better than -- more likely than not to read a lot of these races it turns out in every contested race except new hampshire they won. margins that were, in some cases tight. in many cases, much larger than expected. they want in states that president obama carried the last two times. iowa and colorado. those of the most meaningful ones because of that for me. they want everywhere except new hampshire. their strategy, which had been to nationalize the elections around president obama, was vindicated. why you see the president reacting the way he did. he was the central issue in many ways in the campaign. >> is it more than barack obama? it's about people fed up with

washington in the way the system is working? the way they think other people are doing better than they are? >> it is definitely all those things. the president said, as the party in power, they will take a lot of that. the democratic party has some fundamental problems about what it stands for. either the obama democratic party or the democratic ready in general. you look at the candidates, trying to find a message. they would try to link the republicans to the code brothers -- koch brothers. having an over -- overarching there in about what the party stands for. they lacked a comprehensive national message for the republicans did not have one either except to run against the president. in a midterm, that was good enough. >> we have read a lot of commentary today. including peter baker, who said the president wanted to go out

there and have at it. explain himself and his party. >> the president has been like this throughout. about 2012, he was sometimes this way. he was frustrated that his campaign did not want him to argue the case. you saw on one particular dramatic instance, he went to northwestern university. he said this thing, the famous thing. my name is not on the ballot but my policies are on the ballot. democratic candidates around the country when reading a -- beating their heads against the table. -- even in the white house, there is some confusion. the line was in the speech. but there was no one who could have seen that as helpful.

you could have foreseen the consequences. that specific bite was in a lot of ads. >> what in summary catch it? >> -- why didn't somebody catch it? he was frustrated about the fact he was not welcoming these contested contests. he was frustrated by the fact the clintons were welcomed and he was not. he was not happy to see members of his own party running from him in the way they did. you can imagine it personally. he could not go back to iowa, the state that launched him toward the democratic nomination, the fact that he was so toxic. the personal level of frustration is understandable. at various times, he acted out in some ways. that speech is in the example. >> clearly he is searching for

common ground. sense tryingriven to find common ground? conference. a press what he said for his final answer, there was not a lot of sense that there was drive there. you think back to george bush and bill clinton. bill clinton and george bush each had one good midterm election. had two bad has midterms. after the bad midterms, they did press conferences where they were clearly on their game, energize, fighting for the balance of the presidency. i don't think you can read what he did today as being driven to save it. his three seems to be that now the republicans need to govern

with the preference -- pressure of 2016. if they will make deals with him between the muscles start to work any relationships told that maybe you pass an energy or info structure bill. and you can move on to bigger issues. i think the reality is, he cannot be passive. i thought he was relatively passive today. maybe he will take charge on friday. moment, this was not a take charge moment. >> it seemed perfunctory. went out of his way to not say i understand the results are a reflection on me. he took no blame. he did not say there was a large message he needed to change course. he basically said, no, i'm not ready to change how i do business.

no one should expect the president -- is not reasonable to expect him to capitulate to republicans or give up on his corporate goals. he's not going to let them got the a formal care act. gut thesaid, -- affordable care act. he tried to cast it as a bipartisan repudiation. he said, i hear the two thirds of you who did not vote as if to minimize the importance of it. people did not vote, so it did not mean that much. he gave the impression to a lot of people, at least monitoring social media, that he was a little bit in denial. i don't think he necessarily was in denial, but the affect was he was not observing the magnitude of what happened. >> there is a story in politico that quotes an administration official saying, you have to

worry about the base. i read that one of the president's most trusted advisors. he was appalled that someone on the president possibly half was saying that. >> the day after the midterms. >> the president doesn't suddenly have to endorse private social security accounts and the keystone pilot line. -- pipeline. but there is no doubt that if he is going to make deals, they are going to be toward the center and an noisome people in the base. >> this is an aid being quoted, so i don't know if the president would say it or not. the president is faced with the question of whether he is going to take executive action on republican -- immigration. said, it willve poison the well on everything going forward. i think there is a reasonable chance he will do it. i think what he is thinking is not i'm trying to appease the base. he thinks this is an issue of principle and he can see his

right. he is so cynical about the ability to do a deal on something like immigration that his attitude is, i should do what is right at this point because i will never get a deal done. over six years having the toublican party opposed everything he wanted to do, he doesn't see that much upside in trying to do a deal. he wants to do what he fixes right. >> -- thinks is right. >> i don't want to spend my career comparing him to bill clinton. if bill clinton was here, he would have talked about issues. maybe not with a lot of mayificity, but shown -- talked about nuclear power or how teachers are treated by unions. thrown out a common agenda.

and maybe divided the republican party a bit. >> funding for isis -- the fight against isis. those are kind of like apple pie. >> it is in their interest to find common ground. for republicans to prove they can govern. somehe president, to have sort of legacy. >> he doesn't want to waste the two years in office. >> there is more pressure to not get stuff done then some people know. we take the fall to get anything major to get anything to the president's desk. can do a deal. let's wait a year. there will be a republican president. then we can get the whole thing done. the window for them to really want to work with the president

is small. >> is mcconnell going to try to repeal health care? >> i don't take so. i don't think he has the stomach for it. there may be some attempt to fix it. policy, i take it is hard without unraveling the whole thing. but there are proposals out there that people on the right think you could try to chip away at and varies ways. -- in various ways. i don't think mitch mcconnell's going to send repeals to obama's desk. ted cruz wants to make him veto it. >> some of the senators are conservative. >> if you look at their bios, them, ife met some of you look at their bios and careers, i think they will be more like senators who are part of trying to get things done. like a marco rubio. cruz. than a ted

bysomehow, to be motivated where the country is. >> in my entire career, i have never seen so many people as i travel around, so many people who say washington needs to work better. >> gentle language, from what i hear. >> it is just as strong from conservatives as liberals. it is often, in a gratifying way, connected to specific things. not in the abstract that because we have to reduce the deficit or fight isis. >> we need new infrastructure. >> we need trade. >> that is probably the biggest reason for optimism that they can overcome some of these personal things. >> the president wants to reduce corporate income tax. >> i don't see tax reform at this point. there are winners and losers and lobbyists. the president holding that fragile coalition

together on tax reform, corporate or individual. >> tummy who can be the stars -- tell medon't tell me -- who can bebe stores elected that we do not know about -- be the stars elected yesterday that we do not know about. >> cory gardner is an impressive guy. a good communicator. that state has produced some politicians who are come to both --s for their a --e constant harping on some supporters felt he was a one note candidate. gardner moved to the center on those issues. but hasry conservative also moved in ways to moderate

himself. >> charlie baker in massachusetts, in the illinois governor, they could be national stars. >> what about perdue? >> i have not been impressed with his can indication skills. >> for does this mean about the race for the presidency? >> there are three obvious things. chris christie had a big night. races.a bunch of there are governorships in blue states like massachusetts and maryland. he held onto governorships like florida and wisconsin. he will be up to say he was a successful chairman when he was distracted by the bridge gate investigations. that is a big deal with don ors. who won reelection is someone who is

taking about running and now that is a big credential. scott walker. party moreepublican conservative as a result of this election or more moderate? >> more moderate for sure. because of the need to govern now they have both chambers. because most of the people were elected in the senate, a lot of these governors who were elected, are people who want to get things done and are not bomb throwers. >> this is the race where republicans and democrats agreed about one thing. they had great candidate selection. in the primaries, the establishment candidates one. -- won. the party establishment rallied around them and made sure that did not happen -- that 2010

did not happen again. the great lesson is, it worked. they are not moderates by any means. but non-tea party, non-fringe candidates. you have seen it in the coverage. the same way we have seen the backbiting around president obama. you have seen strategists in the paper using word like wackos. they have been purged. back in their cages. we are back in charge. that language tells you some thing about what the party establishment has taken as the lesson. >> i think there is a very bad -- it is bad for hillary clinton over the next few months. per operation does many things well. one is not dealing with collocated and evolving situations. what less night result's does is sendsus -- since her --

her in an unpredictable direction. how do she deal with the republicans. the sheet compromised or confront them? calendar off whatever she had. her operation is not nimble. now there is a lot to analyze and stress about. >> which he makes a statement like corporations do not create jobs, is that good or bad? >> she tried to clean it up. i'm never a big fan of these things. it shows again that she is -- even though she has days when she is a better candidate than she is given credit for, there are days when she is a clunker. republicans and the press will jump over that every time.

>> there is also the element, one of the things that is true turning the out midterm electorate into a presidential electorate is harder than they thought. voters more non-white and single female voters to come out is hard. messagecratic economic did not resonate with white working class and middle class voters. the party has positions which are popular but does not have an economic here he. -- theory. clinton to hillary fashion it out of cloth. there is nothing obvious for her to run with request i don't think they w -- run with. >> i don't did there was a democratic message. they were scared to death of the president and try to talk about local issues. the same thing is true for the republicans.

everybody was against something. nobody was for something. in a country in which people are saying we have to do better. >> with the exception of ed gillespie, who had a health care plan, i looked at every major center da -- senate candidate. they had nothing on jobs, education read any presidential caught -- education. in the presidential contest, the field is wide open. tomorrow, i'm going to make this point about bill clinton. run was givings a series of big policy speeches that were about his theory of the case. the stage is yours, guys. republicans and democrats. neither of you have a theory. you have a huge opportunity to do what clinton did. we will see if anybody wants to

occupy that stage and grabbed the mic. >> the people who are giving credit for idea people, rand paul and marco rubio. is ane idea that there idea that will capture the public's imagination -- >> shards of ideas but not a fully integrated case. >> back in a moment. " is the new movie by dan gilroy. trailer for "nightcrawler." >> excuse me, sir. i am a hard worker. is, if you want to win the lottery, you have to earn

the money to buy a ticket. i could start tomorrow or even tonight. >> i'm not hiring. >> give me a shot inside the car. back away. >> i am back. >> will this be on tv? >> morning news. if it bleeds, it leads. >> are you hiring? i'm starting the tv news business. >> get back. >> i film breaking stories. >> i don't have a tv. >> to have a cell phone? >> yes. >> congratulations, you are hired. >> i will never ask you to do anything that i would not do myself. >> i have something you will be excited about. >> you have a good eye.

i want you to contact me when you have something. thick about a screaming woman running down the street with her throat cut. >> home invasion. >> you got to call the cops. >> we will at the right time. we are going to find a person who drove that car. >> i made it to active. -- i and a detective. i think you withhold information. >> that would be wrong. >> it would be murder. >> 911, what is your emergency? >> we want all of it. >> oh my god. think he is inspiring us to

reach a little higher. >> joining me now is dan gilroy, the director and screenwriter. and jake gyllenhaal, this film's star. is a euphemism for a stringer. the camera men who go and film, nonunion at night. they try to find footage to sell to local news. >> it is easy to sell if they did not have anybody on the case. >> or if it is gory enough. they are not interested it in all crime. crime creeping into the suburbs. it is not easy to get good footage. when you get it, it is worth something. >> when did -- where did the idea come from? a crime was

photographer in the 1930's. when i moved to l.a., i learned about the modern equivalent. they have a dozen scanners instead of one. i had it was a good backdrop for a film. we talked a lot about one we first working on the film about the typography of los angeles. there are any mountain ranges. -- are the mountain ranges. there is blackness, the desert. the animals that come from the mountain ranges in the desert, scrounging and hunting for food. ew was that. primal in his intention. he wanted to succeed. he was hungry, literally and figuratively like a coyote. >> his eyes are important. jake talked about, there is a

desperation to the character. we are in a survival oriented world. his eyes became more prominent and an energy came out that is very effective. the character wants to consume not just food but ideas and people. tells the where jake tv editor, rené russo, what he wants. >> the name of my company's video production news. that is how it should be read and said. the wrongt to go to and the media or team. the station manager and director and anchors. you will take me around and introduce me as the owner and president. remind them of my stories. i am not done. discussiontop the

over prices. say that i want these things, i mean that i want them. i don't want to have to ask again. >> tummy about that scene. i like it. tell me. >> you are watching the loss of thing -- blossoming of a self actualized person who has come into a landscape of pure free-market. every instinct he has is well-suited for it. rené russo is the news director of the station. she has been holding most of the cards. you now realize he is the one with the power. >> why did you want to do it? >> was the best screenplay i had ever read, to be honest.

a character unlike anything i had ever read. his dialogue is extraordinary. that is just the first. >> should we be concerned about the world you showed us? >> on a number of levels. we presented him as a success story. it is a personal film for me and other people. people with him, sociopathic tendencies, are being rewarded. on that level we should be concerned. local newslevel, tends towards graphic violent images, especially in los angeles. it creates an e those that we walk around in. it creates fear -- an ethos of fear that we walk around in. you could believe that crime is going up when it is going

down. that people are threats when they are just getting slushy's. that leans into fear to get ratings has a detrimental effect. something we should be aware of. >> two things have been apparent to me. not so much what we do. we cover the subjects. one is weather and the other is crime. crime and natural disasters. >> i will go back to the l.a. market. the weather girls are like nadal's -- pin up dolls. >> rené russo says, your job is getting heather to turn sideways and get the treat of the day. crime, they are trying to get ratings.

people compare this film to "network." capturedhat paddy so well was when they realized they had to make a profit. then they start to drift into entertainment. rene plays a news director. they have an imperative to bring 80 -- ratings up. >> you should talk to david fincher. >> to create a story that survives news cycles. is asking the question how we are all complicit. it is easy to blame the media. the character in the media is enabled by rené russo, who is enabled by the footage and station heads and audience.

we are the audience. how do we create so of the like my character is what the movie is asking. dan takes it a step further and set saying, look what the media saying, ohtead of what the media does. >> i have footage for sale. >> a stringer? >> what? >> who do you work for? >> at the moment, i work for myself. what you have? certainthing i'm fairly you will be excited about. >> that is his for sale. >> -- first sale. >> he is a remarkable salesman. >> he has sociopathic tendencies

and is extraordinary smart. here's a line where so but says, your problem is he does not understand the go. he understands people the way it a lion understands a gazelle. role you could not have played five years ago. because of your growth of his actor -- growth as an actor. i don't think i could have done it five years ago. particularly because of the technique and discipline i have learned. one of the main things i approached, the idea that freedom is on the other side of discipline. >> totally. >> great quote. >> that is what i have nurtured and cultivated over the past five years. preparation is everything. >> freed is on the other side of preparation -- freedom is on the

other side of preparation. >> i don't have the ability to do something in the moment. i have to do the preparation. preparation is my favorite part, that is what i have learned. >> 32 the character is. -- learning who the character is. >> it is more fun for me going on the streets with dan and the stringers. talking about the all the idiosyncrasies. taking a picture of a tie, thinking my character should wear the tie. performance is terrifying anyway and fun. not as much fun as the preparation. talking about it, even though i am an actor, is less interesting. you have infinite possibilities and preparation. then everything becomes finite. it is actually being cemented and i have to move on.

way feel the same about preparation for the show. >> the unconscious will guide you. if you have done the preparation. >> people who understand this are just musicians. you know -- they know they have to be good musicians before they can riff. >> the words in the movie, the structure of the speeches and dialogue -- some of it is truly extraordinary -- within that come the intentions are like jazz. we change the intentions of every scene tape to take. i would do one take and it would be different than the next. the words and melody had a structure. we danced within that. >> it was exploration and preparation on the set. >> maggie was here.

god, i love her. >> me, too. >> she is on broadway, which i have not seen. >> she is doing the real thing. "the honorablein woman." >> i told her this the other night when i saw her in her show. i think she has mastered something. i don't think it is possible to master totally the craft of but my sister has mastered something in her work that is so moving to me to watch. not only as her brother but as a follow artist and actor. she is so agile. it is testament to the mind when you see an actor up there. you can see how they work in a way you can't with movies. there is a purity on stage.

it is amazing to watch her. she is my older sister so i feel that way about her. >> nace talking to you. >> back in a moment. stay with us. ♪ >> deena varshavskaya is here.

she is the founder of wanelo. it connects consumers with some of the biggest brands as well as boutiques. availablects are made to the more than 11 million active users. i am pleased to have her here. >> thank you. >> let me talk about you. born in -- >> siberia. >> your father was a journalist. your parents divorced. you came to america. with your fat other -- father and his family. >> and then we moved to upstate new york for college, cornell.

studied everything under the sun. i knew i had no interest in having a regular 9:00-5:00 job. >> any reason to know that what you would like to do is build a business? >> not yet. it took until after i left college to discover the real world had problems. which i was interested in solving. optimizers.s are skinning thed, environment for what is the thing that needs to be improved. as soon as i found that first thing and said, i know how to do this that are. -- better. a bettern build mousetrap. you left cornell two courses short of graduation. some people would say, why couldn't you just graduate? were you so anxious to do something? was there something else? >> yeah. it is an interesting

question. i wask what happened is disagreeing with the way traditional education was handling me as a person. teeth i wanted to sink my into something. academia was not it. >> how long does it take you to find wanelo? >> probably five or so years. >> you are looking in terms of things you might do? after i left cornell, i had gotten exposed to what the startup world was about. thereted noticing that was all the storytelling about startup founders. that sounded really fun. i started taking on the notion that it seemed like some thing i would want to do. i want to build a company and

run it. >> wanelo stands for -- >> want, need, love. it came from a personal frustration. i have always had unique taste. style, the things i buy. traditional malls were frustrating. limited choice and predictable. i started thinking, where are all the independent stores? how do i find out about them? that was piece one. the second was speaking about the future of shopping and discovery of products in stores. networking isial something that is taking over. if we go back to the beginning of the thesis, humans have always been social. that it hasecently become possible to create massive global networks of

humans. people a shared passion, shared curiosity. >> in ways that were impossible before. that is why we have platforms like twitter and instagram. >> you put yourself along those platforms.e those >> yes. [laughter] >> your company is evaluated at hundreds of millions? >> the last official was over $100 million. >> in terms of what the people who invest in you pay for a percentage of the business? >> correct. >> you put yourself in a category with facebook and twitter. they become competition for you because they have a family that might be in

search of the same thing? or do you have, as warren buffett says, you have a moat around your business? >> you have a moat. the reason i don't worry about these platforms is people did not go to twitter or pinterest to shop. >> why wouldn't they? news,o to twitter for others for different things. >> i think it is just how the human mind works. we like to have a single category. we like to have a business or thing that owns that category. amazon to read news. they own commodity shopping for you. you don't go to twitter to shop. >> in fact, what is happening -- i am asking this -- they are getting in each other positive business. -- each other's

business. google and amazon and apple are competing. why wouldn't they decide, we can do what she does? you have millions of users. we can do this with her, compete. >> they do in fact work on commerce. in media, we have a lot of conversation about this book commerce -- facebook commerce. your intent is number one. that's the reason i think you don't go there to shop. has a two, shopping unique set of problems that need to be solved. in order for it to work. that ast an accident you look at the social networks, we have a leading social network for almost every human need.

shopping continues to be the one lagging. the reason is how hard the problems are. when you are dealing with an versus a product, the product is a lot more complex. it has availability and pricing, sizes, colors. we have to know whether the product is available to show it for you. that problem is challenging. >> what kind of person comes to wanelo? >> u.s., female, college-age. they typically come to be inspired, to find what is trending. to see the latest, greatest products. it is fun for them. there is a utility component where they like finding things to buy. it is also entertaining for them. >> you direct them to the site.

whoever makes the item. site, if theythe sell, they pay you a percentage of the cost of the item? >> that's correct. >> something you business to me -- sounds like a business to me. >> we are the only social network where all content is 100% purchasable. businessmeans is our model can be aligned with what our users need. we don't need to interpret them with advertising. from 2013-2014, you went from one million users to 10 million users. is that a growth rate you can continue? can you grow it that fast from 2014-2015? it becomes exponential, like a stone rolling down the mountain. >> growth is some thing you have

to master as a discipline. it is a challenging question. >> how do you master it? >> for us, it is about understanding what is the utility around what we are building. we are solving incredible challenging problems. for instance, we have done a lot of research with women in their 30's.. patients.a lot less they are more experienced as shoppers. they have more preferences, knowing which brands they like. a lot of what we do is we spend time thinking, what does that mean? how do we develop the platform for them? >> you might think they would have, for example, they might say why would i go to wanelo which is going to direct me to ralph lauren? >> assuming you already know

ralph lauren, that is correct. one of the things that is different about wanelo is you will be exposed to lots of independent brands. low end, high end of brands you would have never found on your own. yes, it works for my house. i have five brands i like to go to. it will expose you to things he would have never found otherwise. it brings all the brands together for you in a single place. >> do you see any risk for you? >> what do you mean? >> they don't like the product, it is not your fault. you just got a transactional fee for connecting to bring people. connecting two people. >> there is some responsibility for what kind of platform we want to be.

absolutely. we have people e-mailing us all the time. they think they have already purchased it from wanelo. andhey see it from you, send the credit card in. majority of usage is on mobile. it is a very fragmented experience, going from the product page to the retailer. frequently hard to tell on your phone whether you are on wanelo or the retailer. >> what percentage use mobile? >> 85%. >> that is where the world is going? >> it is transformative.

is thely, the smartphone common starting place for your research. the stats are 55% of research starts on your phone. only 7% gets completed as a gets completed. >> most people have a laptop. is mobile easier? what does it have that your laptop does not have? >> it always with you. >> you can shop wherever you are. upfor millenial's, they wake with the phone. is the first thing they do. i am lying on my pillow and there is my phone. >> is the first thing you do? >> of course. that is where the excitement is. >> i am looking for news.

that is the reason i look at it. >> i look at my e-mail. to see what happened in my e-mail. then i go to social networks and news. went looking for venture capital. the first 40 people said, you are a nice person but no thank you. >> that is almost correct. they tried to avoid saying no. interest to their outright reject you. >> we will get to it. >> i got 40 rejections. >> what is it take so long? -- why did it take so long? and the person who broke through, did they respond differently? what made that experience successful? >> the reason it was so challenging was i did not fit the pattern. i am not your typical silicon

valley -- >> you didn't come out of silicon valley. >> dude in a sweatshirt. >i also did not have a technical team at the time. there were legitimate reasons why it was challenging for me. >> you knew what you want to do but not how to do it. >> when i started raising had built an early prototype if you well of the website. and then we had an early community that was organically growing. that is what ultimately helped the investors to close my funding. >> do love this? >> i absolutely do. i think it is intense and crazy. what i wasot doing doing, i would probably be really bored. >> can you imagine what you would be doing?

>> probably something equally crazy. >> thank you for coming. think you for joining us. see you next time. ♪

>> i am mark halperin. >> and i'm john heilemann. and, with all due respect there is no roid rage here. first, on day two of the reddening of america, mitch mcconnell fell in line. two leaders, one script.