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>> with all due respect -- ♪ >> our line up tonight, jeb bush talks about common core. jim webb is the first to open the door. we sing the praises of charlie wilson's war. three hours until president obama's primetime address to the nation in which he will announce he is taking executive action to give work permits to as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants. republicans are decrying the
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president's action as an illegitimate power grab. democrats are standing firm behind the president. take a listen to mitch mcconnell and harry reid today on the senate floor. >> if president obama imposes his will on the country, congress will act. we are considering a variety of options. make no mistake when the newly elected representatives of the people take their seats, they will act. and he knows. this is not how a democracy is supposed to work. he told us so himself. >> the meeting we had in the white house last night we had hispanic caucus, the black caucus, everyone there was telling the president we've got your back. peak immigrant groups from all over america. the catholic bishops, the mormon church.
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this is something that is fair and the right thing to do. >> those two guys have very different perceptions of what is going on. going into the speech tonight which is side, democrats republicans which side has the upper hand? >> if you look at what happened since we last met on this electronic meeting place, i think democrats are still doing well. the coalition is bigger. it's more optimistic. i heard democrat surrogates from the white house and other places talking about families, bringing people out of the shadows, breaking gridlock. those are all upbeat and positive things. i'm here at the rga. republican governors are talking about the president and this issue. they sound better. they sound angry. republicans are not anxious to talk about this. republican leaders are worried people were talking about -- are talking about impeachment. we need to see his legal justifications for what he's doing. >> the family thing is really
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important. you heard harry reid talking about the catholic church and mormon church. this policy is driven to some extent by keeping families together, dreamers with parents of dreamers. that's a good place for democrats to be. republicans sound like they are anti-family and they sound kind of pinched and negative. democrats have the upper hand right now. the republican governors are taking a post-election victory lap in florida. one who is not there is a former governor of florida, jeb bush. bush was in washington today, speaking about one of his pet causes, education, which is an endorsement of common core is his main vulnerability with conservative voters should he decide to run for president. bush would soon try to reframe the issue, and today he started to do just that. >> this is a civil rights crisis in every sense of the term. when schools fail our kids, we deny them more than education. we deny them their right to
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their potential. doors close to them. they become stuck in a world that none of us would choose for our own children. in case anyone thinks this is just a problem for a few kids in a few urban districts, let's cut to the chase. this is a national problem. >> bush has a problem with the common core, and in this speech he tries to say, let's talk about a conservative vision for education, tried to turn this liability back into an asset for him. it's important he does this. the question is whether he will be able to pull it off. his views about how standards are important to allowing american kids and adults to compete in the global economy, that's a compelling message. it is why george bush was in favor of common core at the very beginning. >> jeb bush is one of the most important education reformers in the last 25 years in this country. he's going to have to take common core for the base of the party. today is not just important for whether he can do it on common core.
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he is going to try to build a center-right coalition, taking the partisanship and venom out of politics. it was a planned speech. he was not taking questions from republican rivals or reporters. this is the right way for him to run. >> i get why some people in the tea party don't like federal control of education. i don't understand why anybody doesn't like the idea that we should have high standards for our kids. cue the parade music up. ladies and gentlemen, we have our first sort of maybe kind of candidate for the 2016 presidential race, jim webb. he has formed a so-called exploratory committee, which basically means he's in. webb is former secretary of the navy under ronald reagan, turn hardscrabble economic populist. i ask you mark, here comes jim webb. is that a guy who could emerge as a possible rival to hillary clinton? >> i'm not sure he's actually
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going to get in. look at the letter he put out announcing this committee. he talked about leadership, about crossroads and other things. some talk about prisoner [indiscernible] economics. if there is a profile of somebody who can make a serious run at hillary clinton, to me, i don't see it as jim webb. >> sounds like you are accusing of committing [indiscernible] i watched the video. i think the idea of somebody running a populist campaign from her left on the side of working people, that is plausible. i'm not sure he's the right messenger for that campaign. >> it's weird. in some ways he's to the right of her, in some ways he's to the left of her if you look at his record in public life. i do not see him as a kind of talent it would require to beat hillary clinton as an underfunded candidate. you have to be nimble and go at her vulnerabilities with an intuitive sense of where they are. >> underfunded.
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i'm not sure he would raise more money even than bernie sanders. we woke up to sad news. mike nichols passed away yesterday at the age of 83. nichols was best known for "the graduate," he turned his head back to politics. >> i'm going to need you for a second. my loyalty --for 24 years people have been trying to kill me! do you think it's because my dad was a greek soda pop maker, or because i'm an american spy? go --yourself, you -- child. >> you could not tell me, so i don't know. hello richard? what the -- kind of operation do we have here?
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[indiscernible] >> you just threw the phone out the window. >> stop the car. >> a lot of profanity from polished performers based in powerful post there. which of those two movies do you like moore, "primary colors" or "charlie wilson's war"? >> i like them both, but i liked "primary colors." travolta got as close as possible. >> he was fantastic. the movie has been underappreciated for a long time. fabulous performance by travolta. "charlie wilson's war" was really something, the last movie that mike nichols made. just for that performance by philip seymour hoffman alone, the movie will always have a special place in my heart. >> our thoughts are with diane sawyer and the rest of mike nichols' family. in boca raton, i spent the day talking to various republican
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governors, including an extended conversation with a man who likes metallica. ♪
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>> for our viewers just joining us, mark is in boca raton today or he scored a standup interview in a hallway with john kasich. mark, set it up for us. >> a talk to john kasich about a lot of stuff, started by talking about his reelection, including getting an impressive 25% of the african-american vote. >> everybody in my state should rise. this cannot be a place where some go up and others are forgotten. in fact, i'm looking forward to working with the african-americans to come up with another agenda that we can accomplish. timmy when you are in a state -- first of all, you have to have economic growth. once you have it it should be a means to another end, which is to lift everybody.
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that is what we're are supposed to do in life, right? help our neighbor, help people to be able to grow to do better. that's my whole philosophy in the state. medicaid is another one we did making sure that people could get health care coverage. we are paying attention to the mentally ill, the drug addicted. making sure the people who have children that are artistic can get insurance coverage. these are not some big deal to me. these are things we ought to be doing. >> still true to what you believe our conservative principles? >> i think those are conservative principles. there's a big faith-based component of the conservative movement. when i read the old or new testament, there's a lot of things in there, admonitions or encouragements towards -- [no audio]
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to me that's a conservative position, to give people a chance to realize their god-given destiny. we are also doing welfare reform in ohio. a lot of people who can't make it -- we want to get them unstuck. we don't want them to be stuck there. what we really want to do is to combine the help center with the training center with businesses located there so we can train people to get a job so they can go up. >> you have talked in a broadway about -- different from your colleagues -- about common core, immigration, medicaid. what is having you stand apart from them? are they more like you than the press is making out, or are you different from your colleagues here who seem more confrontational about the president? >> since you are a great analyst, why don't you figure that out? i am who i am. >> do you think you're different from the others?
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>> that would be a swipe of my colleagues. -- at my colleagues. they are smart people. for me, these are the things that make sense to me. all i hope is that people will take a look at them. what is important for me is of course you have got to create jobs. if you don't do that, game over. once you're doing it, there are many other things you can do to give other people hope. >> mark i think that we have too many people now who live in the country who feel excluded who feel as though they are not going to have a better tomorrow who don't have the hope they ought to have. if i can impact that in some way, if i can make somebody think they are not all alone they are not forgotten, and maybe tomorrow can be a better day i ought to pay them to do this job. >> in my right that there are some colleagues here and in
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washington -- we are supposed to be the optimistic party. why are you trying to be so negative? >> i have found over the course of my career even back in congress that sometimes there has been a sense in the party that it is better to just criticize somebody else i don't get your ideas out there. i wrote my own budgets. there were a lot of people that did not like that. i said, you can't be something with nothing. >> i talked to a lot of republican politicians, donors about who they want to see running in 2016. what is the one thing they all say to me? >> don't know. >> they all wonder about your attention span. they say you have got add and you can't focus on one thing for a long period of time. is there truth to that? >> here's the answer to that. some people can play multilayer chess.
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they are used to being washington. a hit on me that i wasn't listening. well we got the budget balanced, and i was one of the chief architects of it. do you know how hard it is to get a federal budget to balance? do you know how hard it is to stop a major weapon system? it takes focus. i will tell you this -- i can chew gum and walk at the same time because i've got great -- let me tell you one other thing that i have really learned in this job. when you are a senator or congressman, you say, my team. i would say my team. when you are governor, if you don't mean my team, you will not be successful. i have great people around me. people say, what are you worried about? some of my best and brightest if they leave, i will be handicapped. >> what did you learn when you
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ran for president? >> if you don't have any money you can't be president. could not raise any money. when i look back on that, i was very young. >> was it fun? >> defined by what? >> [indiscernible] >> fun is playing golf and hanging out with my family friends. >> what are you going to get done in this term? >> we went to dormer -- do more diversification in our state, diversify the state. i want to bring excitement to the classroom like we see in a lot of our technical and vocational schools. i wanted to be in the regular schools. i want our workforce programs to be the best in the country, and some of the best in the world. i want to make sure we reform this welfare system so we help people but we are able to give them a chance to have a great
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life. i went to continue to make sure all the groups in the state feel they can rise. at the end of the day, i want ohio wins to feel like we are the buckeye state, we are in it together, and then i will be satisfied. >> have you been to a cavaliers game yet? >> no i have not been to see the cavs. or the browns, except on tv. >> the best thing about three cultural entities during -- entities. what is the best thing about metallica? >> the drummer is pretty cool, but he did not understand technology was coming in the music business. >> what is the best thing about "downton abbey"? >> i don't watch it, but my wife does. >> what is currently the best thing about the nfl? >> i'm really disturbed about
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the nfl, the violence and the fact that there's too much about money. the best thing about it is great athletes. it can be fun to watch at times. i'm a little concerned about what it is all about. >> thank you sir. >> that is john kasich. when we come back, more on today's big story. ♪
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>> we are a couple of hours away from president obama's speech. congressman luis gutierrez democrat from illinois and a member of the congressional hispanic caucus. president obama last year but about doing this executive order before the election, decided not to do it. a lot of people think that was a mistake. do you think it was an error for him not to have done it earlier? >> absolutely. you rarely get good public policy and justice and fairness
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and that is what this is all about tonight. i think it was a mistake. in the end we were going to lose the senate. it had nothing to do with this decision. what he did was delay a good decision. the elections are over. at least we are not waiting until the end of the year. i suggested early on that thanksgiving should be filled with millions of blessings for millions of undocumented workers in this country, and millions of american citizens, children. they can sit at the thanksgiving table just like i can with my family. >> a number of people who you and others would have liked to be included in the president's order will not be included. what groups are those? >> i will give you two groups agricultural workers.
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they are so essential to our economy. they do backbreaking work. nobody wants to do that work. it's not even an argument. we see them by the millions in our fields across our nation. the president did not think he had the authority to do that number one. the dreamers, they have been such wonderful activists, and raising the bar in presenting themselves before the american public and changing the view of how we see undocumented. they really have humanized undocumented. they made sure people don't call them illegal. they have shown that many undocumented workers and those that don't have papers are americans. when i sat down for dinner with the president yesterday, he was very clear. he wanted to have a solid bedrock as he moved forward legal bedrock. he did not want to go too far and extent too widely in the use
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of his prosecutorial discretion. he knows it's going to come under judicial attack. he does not want to find himself in a courtroom losing, and this thing coming apart because he might have made a decision that a court might not have hoped. it is a very expensive, user -- prosecutorial discussion. i congratulate him for his courage. i look forward. i accepted the invitation to get on air force one with him tomorrow. i said, mr. president, i will take the worst seat on the plane even the one that mr. gingrich complained about. >> harry reid today talked about how the whole of the democratic party was behind him hispanic americans, african americans, the catholic church, mormon church. the one group he did not cite was business. it is interesting that we have
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not seen a lot of voices from private industry, for the private economy in favor of this move. can you explain why they're not a bigger part of this coalition? >> interesting -- they should be more a part of this. maybe they look at it more from the workforce point of view than from a human rights, civil rights point of view, a family unification point of view. i have got to tell you, i know people in the business community , and i don't want to promote crate and barrel, but it's a place i shop at. you talk to the ceo of crate and barrel, she's excited. there are many business leaders who are excited. i think we will hear from more of them. there are a lot of farmers out there. they will at least have some more guarantees having a good adequate flow of farmworkers. there's a lot of farmers out
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there who really wonder about what will -- who will be there to pick their next crops. there are many quarters of american society -- i would like to focus on the chamber of commerce -- when was the last time we saw the editorial board of "the wall street journal" and "the new york times" reflect each other? >> think you very much. ♪
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x we are only on television normally half an hour a day, but tonight we will be on for special coverage of the presidential address on immigration. you can watch us at bloomberg tv and online. mark, what you like about the site right now gekko >> checkout mike benders piece on jeb bush.
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he knows him for a long time. he's got him writing up on the common core issue. >> the left in washington d.c. getting ready for two years of hell. as always, taking stock is next. sayonara. ♪
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>> hello, i'm pimm fox. this is what i'm taking stock of four thursday, november 20, 2014. we are sorry -- that is the message from takata. testimony before a senate panel today. they'd knowledge three fatalities because of the airbags. -- they acknowledge three fatalities because of the airbag. >> we are deeply sorry in each of the instances where the airbag has not performed as designed. >> ralph nader says more could have been done

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