>> with all due respect to jim cantore, you are not the only one who loves a little bit of thunder snow. >> we got it, baby! you got to be kidding me! >> on the show tonight, what the president will not say and what nobody is watching anymore on saturday night. first, a federal judge in texas looked at barack obama's executive action on immigration and gave him the old dikembe f inger wag. he also challenged congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform.

this is one of those situations where everybody is all over the map. some say this makes more republicans likely to back down and get a cover mice on department of homeland security funding. some say it is less. what say you? >> i say more. i think the republicans in the house and elsewhere under a lot of pressure. this gives them a decent opportunity to back down given the white house has legal immigration thing on hold. >> you are going with the rational fallacy. the fallacious reasoning in thinking they will be rational. this so far -- a bush nominee says the president is behaving improperly. i think some republicans will see this as an off ramp and some will say it let's keep fighting we are right. >> you may be right.

i have engaged a lot of fallacies in my time. there is been a lot of pressure building from people in the republican party. john mccain over the weekend saying no one should use the dhs funding. i cannot help but think there is a huge chunk of the republican party that will put pressure on its leadership to take the off ramp. >> interesting voice sunday and monday on fox news. george will is saying the house is not doing its duty to pass legislation. this is a case where john boehner seems to be drawing a pretty hardline. if you look at the statements from presidential candidates and republican leadership in the congress, they have said this decision proves they are right. i do not see a lot of give right now and while it is rational for them to give in, i don't see the momentum.

i don't think john boehner can get the votes right now to produce some sort of off ramp. >> boehner has taken a lot of flak. the majority of americans think he is wrong and i wonder if that will factor in at all. >> the white house begin a three-day summit to address violent extremism. that is weird because the president himself will not even mention the term islamic extremism. at least, that is what i heard over at fox news. >> at this point, it is the odd burlesque. it is -- beyond burlesque. it is pathological. their inability and unwillingness to actively describe this. it is not just islamic radicalism anymore or islamic terrorism. this is really islamic supremacy. that is what we're up against. we have a president that will not even at it there is a religious basis underlying.

>> this in his -- is in some ways a tougher fight than the cold war. we agreed this line of attack is ridiculous because president bush had the same posture but will it blend? is this an effective line of attack against president obama and his war against terror? >> it is not just ridiculous. george said burlesque. that's how i feel about the words george was just saying. it is not that george w. bush had the same posture. they had the same reasoning. their view is that radical islam is not really islam. there are a lot of radical islamists in the middle east that we need for this war that don't believe in terrorist tactics. there is good reason for the precedent. i think it might be mildly effective. but in the end, the substance is what is going to matter.

>> here is a problem for the president right now. the cnn poll shows the public's view on how he was handling the war on terror. the numbers have got significantly worse. republicans continue to not unite with the president. i think what are the most striking things that happened -- the president wants new authorization to fight this war. john boehner said not. he instead said that we will see what happens. this war of words and the continued skepticism about the president's fitness to fight this is a real problem for the country. it makes cooperation and getting that authorization harder. you know that old political adage? it is a great one. "the boston globe" called new hampshire a must win for chris christie.

town hall says rick perry must win iowa. are there going to be any must win state for any republican candidate? >> i'm open to the idea of this cycle could be different. it will still be the same for most candidates. you might make a case that jeb bush does not need to win new hampshire. i cannot rick perry being it without winning iowa or chris christie being it without winning new hampshire. >> let's say rick perry finishes second in iowa behind jeb bush and second in iowa behind rand paul and then wins south carolina. take chris christie in new hampshire. let's say he finishes a strong third in iowa and second to paul in new hampshire.

that are so many candidates, so many ways to accumulate delegates. i don't see a lot of must-wins. >> in a word, yes. if rick perry comes in second, he has a past the nomination. -- past two -- pass to the nomination. i don't think there is a world where he finishes second in new hampshire and chris christie finishes second in iowa. i can imagine the path for those guys but in the real world given their weaknesses for one of the other two state, they have to win one of them, otherwise the momentum will not be there. >> people look at the rudy giuliani experiment. they say, he waited for florida. if you perform well even without a win and you talk to the media about a delegate accumulation strategy and you keep up enough momentum by closing strong, i don't think you need to win an early state. as long as you are accumulating

delegates and raising money and performing well in terms of media i don't , think you need to win the early states. i don't think wins will matter with the exception of huckabee and santorum ? in iowa. ? >> i think i can imagine a scenario where those guys get that delegate accumulation strategy. a guy like huckabee needs to win iowa so he can get money. >> unless you have a super pac were people are writing you $50 million check. there are a lot of primaries. there is the new hampshire primary. the rush limbaugh primary. then, there is this -- >> governor palin, welcome. >> how much do you think lorne michaels would pay me if i ran for president in 2016.

>> i don't think there is a number too big. >> what if i chose donald trump as my running mate? >> you are teasing us. that is not nice. >> jerry seinfeld is right. that is not nice. john, of all the republicans who are going to run in 2016 who has a chance to win the popular primary? >> one of the things we noted in the past is that past presidents, barack obama, george bush, they could all do monday night football, saturday night live. there is not a single republican -- a guy like rick perry showed he could do letterman. the bar is low. i don't see anybody that can play at the level of our last three residents in the pop culture realm. >> there are some funny people. rick perry is kind of underrated.

but the fact is nobody has a young media sense of humor. at least, not that i have seen. you look at the three young senators -- cruz, rubio and rand paul, they are not laugh riot s. that lane is there. that primary matters not just for young voters, but it sends a signal to the public -- if you have a sense of humor, it works. there is a lot of strength in the field. but not a lot of strength there. the other guy who good do well is chris christie. >> i really do think it is incredibly important. it is not coincidental that obama, bush and clinton were able to do well. >> the other person we did not mention who could win the primary -- hillary clinton. coming up, we will put one of

the top crisis managers in politics and business to the test. we will play some clue. get out your candlesticks and ropes. we will be right back. ♪

>> joining us now is the guy you want to hire it you screw up big time. we have not done anything wrong yet but we are about halfway through the show. chris lehane for crisis management. thank you for coming. >> it is an honor and pleasure to be here. >> we want to run through some real scenarios, real things that authority happened in 2015. no huge disasters but certainly times we can analyze. jeb bush hired a guy to do some internet stuff for him. first day, some tweets came out. he deleted some tweets and he was not fired. the second day, some posts came out and he was fired. how would you rate the job? what does it say about them?

>> i give him a "b." some of this should've done in the due diligence phase. these are things that should have been knowable. they made a decision fairly quickly. 24 to 48 hours. i think they were smart to move. >> they vetted him and hired him or they failed to vet him? which is worse? >> they failed to vet him. >> that is more likely. >> that is critical. all these hires, you have to do your due diligence. >> they were very friendly towards the guy. they wished him well. they didn't denounce him. is that the right way to get through to somebody? >> you don't want to throw people under the bus because they can say all sorts of things about you and you were ultimately the bigger story, not the person that was removed. this is a marathon, not a sprint and that is the best way to deal

with it. a story in a crisis is about how you as a candidate or organization reacts. what it says about you and your beliefs much less about the actual person. >> we had two republican candidates that got in trouble. chris christie when he was over in london and rand paul when he was here. christie made the statement that got him into trouble. paul did more than that but not before he shushed a tv anchor. what could have they done to make their performance better? >> it is two failing grades. this is a republican party that acted like they were experts on ebola. then something comes up about vaccines and measles and the act like they don't know anything. christie got the worst grade. it took him a long time to

actually deal with it. it made it a longer-term story. second of all a counter is his , core message which is he is a straight talker. not only was it a crisis in terms of not handling the situation well, it undermines somewhat the somatic of his campaign. i think paul was problematic because he is a doctor and is not really sound authentic as a doctor. i think you did an ok job with the visual of the photo. we live in an image world. i think he took a little bit long to get there but of the two of them, he got the better grade. >> scott walker has gotten a lot of criticism about his record in wisconsin. how would you rate the job they seem to be doing in being prepared to answer national and democratic critiques on what he is doing in the state? >> they will stop funding

wisconsin football for the ncaa tournament. it is an interesting issue to take on public schools in your state where education will be the center of conversation, particularly on issues of economic equality. education is the passport to the american dream. both democrats and republicans will have to address that issue head on. >> does the walker organization seem big on this kind of stuff? >> i think the possible exception is jeb bush. they are still playing aa ball. they are facing major league pitching. in the situation for both christie and paul, in some level those were self-made errors. happy to not go into the -- howdy not go into the situation and know you will not

be asked? it is the level of not being ready for prime time. >> on the democratic side of -- side, there had been's worries about a convicted sex offender. bill clinton accompanied him. the association between the former president has come up. how you think the hillary clinton campaign is handling that and should? >> it is very fact specific and there are not a lot of facts. the president ended his relationship with mr. epstein once the information began to be public. i think a lot of this is fact specific. what did you do when he knew about it? i think for any of the campaigns, making sure they have their facts down, together and your answer is consistent with those fax is the most important. >> chris, stand by.

in a minute, we are going from real scenarios dissipate ones like marco rubio. we will play some clue with chris lehane right after this. ♪

>> one body in the study -- one plus two plus one. >> there is only one in the chandelier. it is one plus one. >> who could forget "clue" based on one of our favorite boardgames. we wanted to change our program to all clue respect. we have the opportunity now. chris lehane is back with us to play a little bit. last segment, we did real scenarios and now we will do fake ones.

let me make it clear -- fake scenarios. what we will do is draw crads, person, place and then weapon. draw from the top. the first person is colonel huckabee. >> i flipped it over. >> this is the charleston post and the crime is peyote in college. we changed the board. so, mike huckabee under this scenario is being reported that he experimented with peyote in college. a, say it was a one-time offense. say that he was young and the responsible. b, come out in favor of legalizing it. c, pedal to the press. that ben carson is an opium

addict. d, attack "the new york times." which makes the most sense? >> with a crisis situation, you go with a, which was it was a one-time event only. i think huckabee already said on the record that he's never used. >> never denied peyote. a situation like that, do you go to huckabee and say you really have to tell us all the facts? how hard is that? >> >> a lot of these questions like pot and other types of drugs you probably already had some kind of conversation with the candidate. if you have not for whatever reason, you go to the candidate and say we have one chance to answer this the right way. >> ever worked for a candidate that took peyote? clarks not to my -- >> not to my knowledge. >> drop in the candidate first

year you it is mrs. clinton. we are at a fundraiser. finally, it is caught on tape. there is a secret recording from a fundraiser where you hear a voice that sounds like hillary clinton saying expletive the people of new hampshire. a, suggest it was doctored. c, onto south carolina. or d. attack the new york times. >> we know it has worked in the past. it is a play on the romney meets obama in 2008 situation. you acknowledge that you should something you should not have said and move on. >> this is jeb bush, professor bush. the iowa state fair and the weapon is family brawl.

in this scenario, there is a brawl involving the extended bush family and some civilians. do you a, say it is a private matter? b, have a candidate make a joke about the brawl in bushes. c, throw neil bush under the bus or d, attack the new york times? >> it depends on the severity of the brawl. >> let's say there were some blood drawn. >> by? >> bush on iowan contacts. >> that is not good. >> what are you going with? >> i think you do a hybrid of a little bit of a brawlish bush with fun but then say people need to behave themselves better. i have worked with a candidate

where blood was drawn on a rope line. this was way back in 1992 at a receiving line where there was some anti-choice protesters who held up a sign. the rope line was being manned by some labor folks. i remember a large fist coming over the shoulder of a candidate that met the face. we never determined where the fist came from. >> chris lehane, thank you for coming and playing a little bit of glue. now a word from our sponsors. ♪

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>> hello, i am pimm fox. this is what i'm taking stock of. the financial confrontation between greece and europe is a standoff but the ease tensions greek officials might request a six-month extension of its loan agreement. germany's finance minister says the extension needs to be adopted because nobody wants greece to leave the euro area. >> greece represented by its democratic elected government have to decide what it wants. i cannot extend something the country does not want. >> notable investor in short seller carson block