mark: i mark halperin. john: with all the respect, we been doing this for so long we don't even need to be in the same room. happy national cherry cheesecake day, sports fans. jeff gets ready and marco -- jeb gets ready. first hillary's ugly reading list. speaker fees, tax return errors and more. this morning, before the news

about the u.s. hostages took over the cable-sphere, clinton took the headlines. corrects this book is full of a lot -- wax this book is full of a lot of discredited pieces. >> this is not what the voters are looking for in this campaign. >> you are going to be able to tell us what is wrong with it new york times story before you have even read the story. john: the clinton campaign has since put more meat on the bones of their rebuttal. the question i have is whether the foundation storyline is dying down or blowing up? mark: at 6:00 a.m. it was blowing up. "the new york times" did an unorthodox thing by putting an online instead of the paper. some strong rebuttal points in the middle of the day which

doesn't diffuse that they completely but if they can reply substantively, they can put the story away to a much greater degree. mark: it has always --john: it has always been your contention that they had to use substance to rebut. the nexus of money, the foundation, and the state department continues to be a very rich vein for people to mine. the book is by no means going away. it is not even published yet. mark: they won't find quid pro quo's, but what people will look at is where clinton and other people in the government interacted with foundation people. there is no doubt that if you are a clinton foundation donor and you want to calls returned, there is no doubt you got your calls returned. they are better responding on the merits for the clinton

campaign, not simply ad hominem mccarthyite tactics. the author of the forthcoming book "clinton cash" is being called a hitman by clinton allies. he is right -- he is writing another book on jeb bush this summer. how vulnerable will jeb bush be by schweitzer and others on his business deals? john: mitt romney said he would be very vulnerable for his work at barclays. josh green wrote about some chinese investments and investment vehicles that jeb bush was involved in. mitt romney knows what it is like to be in the crosshairs of this stuff. there is a lot of jeff but -- a lot of jeb's background people will look at. mark: i heard a point that jeb

bush is not like romney, putting front and center his business record. at the same time there is a kind of nexus between people on the populist left, populist right, and investigative reporters who would like to take down but the clintons and the bushes. unlike the clintons who made some money jeb made a lot of money trading on his brain and his connections and i think he will be vulnerable. i think you will see the paul campaign and others. john: the paul campaign, the rubio campaign have more working-class credit. make him the new romney and try to knock him down that way. mark: they will turn him into blake carrington. john: the new national

quinnipiac poll shows jeb bush at 13% with marco rubio at 15%. politico america reports that sheldon adelson thinks senator rubio could be the future of the republican party. to what extent does rubio's status as a freshfaced, rising star a commune intraparty attacks? mark: it a real problem because we saw it as president obama in 2008. attacking the guy who was supposed to be leaving the party to the promised land is hard to do. you might take out rubio with negative ads but the backlash could hit you. as long as he is seen as he is now, it is harder to take him on as it is walker, cruise, or bush. john: you know the super pac's

will be doing some dirty work. i think there is enough to look at and rubio's background. not as formidable to jeb bush in some ways but there is a lot of stuff that went on in florida. a look about his time down there and i think the bush campaign, among others, will not be shy about wanting to take him out. mark: we almost have to put a countdown clock on the show because marco rubio has gone without -- has gone all of 2015 without a day in david louvre's barrel. it will be a challenge because again, imagine if they get caught red-handed going after rubio.. the implications will not be

good for jeb bush and his campaign. john: in 2008, it was harder to take on barack obama and nobody really did with a lot of negative stuff until it was too late on the negative side. bill clinton's attitude was that it was a huge mistake and that hillary clinton should have taken the blows and taken out barack obama early. mark: mark: coming up, what john boehner told me that hillary clinton's use of private e-mail that he has never said before. ♪

♪ mark: this week, john boehner planted a famous kiss on natick losey's cheek -- on nancy pelosi's cheek. he sat down in our studio. i want to turn boehner into jimmy the greek so i wanted some

odds. corporate tax reform 50-50 sayeth the speaker. he also raised some new questions about the famous missing e-mails and also addressed the latest allegations about the clinton foundation. a lot of talk in washington political circles about hillary clinton. the funding of the foundation and the question of her e-mails when she was secretary of state. on the foundation thing, do you know enough to say you are sure she did something wrong or do you just have questions? boehner: i think there are questions about what the foundation did, what speech is the former president gave. at some point, they will have to answer the questions. mark: based on what you know now, there is nothing you would say is wrong, illegal, unethical. >> i don't know enough right

now. mark: same question on her e-mail. speaker boehner: she violated the law. the idea that she would use her own server goes against every transparency issue that the president likes to tout. mark: what is the law she violated? speaker boehner: she has to use a facial -- use an official account. mark: that is a statute? speaker manner: she had to sign something when she got there that said she had to keep the public documents. we think it is time for mrs. clinton to turn the server and all of the documents over to the ig, inspector general, over at the state department. let them sort out what is public and what is private. mark: she has made it clear that

she will not do that voluntarily. when you be supportive of having the full house subpoena her? speaker banner: -- speaker boehner: if we have to do that, we may have to. mark: and you would be open to supporting it? speaker boehner: it is important for the american people to know the truth about what happened in benghazi. it is important to know what was going on at the state department before during, and after the events that occurred in libya. mark: based on the two controversies we were just talking about in the totality it you know about the clintons, in your view are they ethically and morally fit to return to the white house? speaker boehner: i have known the clintons pretty well and they are good public servants. but there are a lot of questions being raised and at some point

they will have to answer the questions. mark: do you think they are ethically and morally fit? speaker banner: they are good people but there are questions. mark: what do you think the odds are that she will be the next president? speaker boehner: no idea. mark: is she formidable? speaker boehner: the odds are -- yes. the odds are about where you would guess, 50-50. mark: last year used -- you have been nudging jeb to run. what makes you think he would be a good candidate for your party and if you want, a good president? speaker boehner: jeb and

i have been friends for a long time. i think he can talk about the values of our party better than anyone. he has a record as governor that is exemplary. obviously he has a handicap, his name is bush. as i told him, i wouldn't look at a poll for the next six-7-8 months. it will take people in a while to figure out he is not george and not his dad. i think john kasich, my governor and a longtime friend of ohio is a great man. it is a wide-open field. i am not endorsing anybody. i have a lot of friends in this race. mark: some people say, come on. can't we find anybody outside of these two families? speaker banne -- speaker

boehner: he will go -- he will have to go out there and earn it and so will she. if they earn it, people will get over this and begin to look at mrs. clinton and jeb bush and their records and what they have to offer the country. mark: do you find it weird that those two families keep having presidential candidates? speaker boehner: it is a little unusual in american history, yes. mark: what you think about corporate tax reform or lowering individual race this year -- individual rates this year? speaker boehner: there is some room for corporate tax reform. but about 70% of american businesses do not pay corporate tax rates. they pay personal tax rates.

it will be very difficult to do corporate tax reform without also doing. mark: what are the chances of that passing this year? speaker boehner: should the u.s. policy be to bring about regime change in iran and should we use covert action to bring it about? speaker boehner: clearly the people running iran for the last 40 years or not interested in working with us. mark: the only people more sick about people talking about john boehner crying all the time than me is you, my best -- i bet. . you kissed nancy pelosi because you want to be known as the kissing speaker, not the crying speaker.

speaker boehner: we have to work together and while we have different ideas about almost everything, at the end of the day it is important for the leaders to have a relationship and be able to talk to each other. on this particular visit, we did a big bipartisan bill that would not have happened without her cooperation. she deserved a kiss. mark: you are fine with us calling you the kissing speaker? speaker boehner: i've been called worse. mark: how much longer would you like to remain speaker? speaker boehner: i don't know we will see. "with all due respect" --mark: what is the range? speaker boehner: there is no range. i came here to fight a fight for a smaller, less costly government. better jobs, better wages than this big government solution to

everything that the people on the other side of the aisle are fighting for. i have engaged in a fight and as long as i am, i will be here. mark: 10 years maybe? speaker boehner: no. less. mark: less than six? speaker boehner: let's not get into this. i told my staff that if i am 70 years old still walking around here should me. -- around here, shoot me. mark: we will have part two of our interview tomorrow here on the show. coming up, the return of the man who might have been hillary clinton's 2016 campaign manager ♪. ♪

john: last on guy cecil was on

our show he said democrats would win the midterms. it's hillary clinton going to win the democratic nomination? >> yes. john: boehner made little news in the sense that he went further on two things. he said he will be open to the idea of subpoenaing her e-mail server and he said she had broken the law. guy: he said she broke the law and that he stumbled on the follow-up question. i also find it funny that a member of congress who is not subject to foia laws is attacking hillary clinton. john: she says she will testify in may. do you think this issue, as a political matter -- the e-mail

-- and that under control or a ticking time bomb? guy: i would remind folks that the -- it is under control. i would remind folks that the e-mail is about benghazi. when you wrap all of this stuff up together, at the end i think it will be much ado about nothing. mark, please --mark: take us inside a campaign. when you are being attacked by something like this, it seems like there are at least two responses. what is to go negative on the attackers and the other is to respond on the merits. is it wise to do one or the other, do both, do this one where your hand is stronger? guy: i think in this particular case they are responding with the facts. you mentioned earlier brian

fallon's response today on a number of the accusations or open questions or however you want to describe what was going on with the book. it is particular case, the facts are clear that nothing was wrong , that this is all hyperbole and suggestion and open-ended question. on the other hand, it is not fair to separate in this particular case the deliver of these questions or hyperbole from what he is saying. the fact of the matter is that this guy works for organizations funded by ted cruz -- by ted cruz supporters. john: he seems to have done something quite smart here. by getting the new york times and the washington post and to a lesser degree fox news to do their own independent reporting,

it is unusual for someone who has some partisan bona fides. it is an unusual thing and a very savvy thing. a different kind of challenge for the campaign to deal with. guy: i don't think the public editor of the new york times by was very savvy since she critic i did -- that she criticized the today. in the story, when you get to paragraph 12 and 13, it reveals the parts of the stories. hillary clinton was not involved in the decision. nine agencies including the treasury department, state department, were not involved in the process. she was not involved in the decision until after it happened. whether it is savvy or not, we are finding that as things become revealed, this is a lot about nothing. john: the clinton world, greater clintonia has historically been

fantastic and gutting books like this before they make any waves. the carl bernstein book. in the past, they would hold a copy early and then use the washington post or wall street journal to undermine the book before it appears. it seems like they didn't know this was coming. guy: it reveals the different way that this clinton operation is run. today they communicated the a media adopting a love the new technologies and ways to communicate directly with people and getting to the bottom of the facts which i think is revealing about, not only this particular case, but about the ways this clinton campaign is different from previous ones. mark: independent of this whole thing, what are the two things that you think have been strongest about clinton's best

launch and the two that have been weakest. guy: in terms of what is strongest, over the course of the first 2-3 days of the campaign it, list three things. they said a stone for the campaign being about everyday americans and telling the stories of real people who are living their lives in sterling to make ends meet. second, i think in terms of the culture of the campaign they have clearly communicated to staff, to supporters, to donors that this a different kind of campaign. the challenge always with the clinton operation is that everyone expects it to be fully funded, fully run, fully staffed by day one. john: thank you for coming in. i'm sad you're not with the campaign because that would have made you a neighbor of mine in brooklyn. ♪

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