>> welcome to bloomberg west, where we cover innovation, technology and the future of business. here's a check on your bloomberg top headlines. advisors for charter communications have reached out to time warner cable to begin friendly talks on an acquisition, this according to people with knowledge of the matter who say charter's goal is to buy time warner cable quickly. the news comes after they dropped the bid to buy time warner cable, due to growing government opposition. the takeover offers keep coming in the generic drug business. drug maker quickly rejected the

offer. they say the 31.2 billion offer is lower than the proposal, because mylan's share prices have been inflated. the nasdaq surges to yet another record high. the index closed 7/10%. strong earnings from google, amazon and microsoft helped fuel the gain. the nasdaq composite has almost quadquadrupled since march 2009. a time waster. a gambler, and an amateur. that's how euro finance ministers described the minister. they made clear that greece cannot take any shortcuts to get additional aid. >> it was a very critical discussion. we came to an agreement two

months ago and today, of course we had hoped to hear a result and an agreement on which we could then take a decision. and we are still far from that. >> he sees differently however. here he is speaking after that meeting. >> we haven't had full convergence yet, because otherwise we would have had smoke coming out of the chimney. but we are confident that we can have that. and in any case, it is our view that we have no right not to achieve this agreement. >> meantime, germany chancellor angela merkel is calling for calm and understanding after the name-calling at that meeting. samsung is boosting production of its curve displays after seeing strong demand for the galaxy s6 edge. people say samsung has started production at a third factory allowing samsung to double its monthly output.

samsung hadn't planned on starting production at the factory south of seoul until june. now, to our lead, the times are achanging for apple, as the company's first entirely new product in five years, the apple watch, goes on sale today. some customers who preordered their device may even find the watch in their mailbox already. but it's hard to find if you didn't preorder it. apple stores aren't selling them yet, due to limited inventory and only a handful of luxury retailers will be showing and selling the watches. with the watch's debut another bigging fight. the battle to create the best possible app for these devices companies including twitter, uber target, american airlines all out with apps already. joining me here in the studio corey johnson, our editor at large in new york. we've got tracy cofounder of the mobile marketplace. also with me here in

san francisco. thank you all so much for joining us. corey, you cannot get me the watch. can we confirm that? >> we cannot confirm that. i didn't get you one today. >> you're not going to surprise me with a watch in the middle of the show? >> if i told you right now, it wouldn't be a surprise. i did go to the store this weekend to look at the watch. and, you know i played with it when it first came out. actually, my daughter, my eight-year-old freaked out when she saw this thing. the notion of the functionality all the things it could do. it was so exciting to her, in a way it wasn't for me. i wonder if that sort of speaks to the surprise of the user interface. >> now, steven, you do have the watch. what are your favorite things? >> i've had it for a grand total of about 16, 17 hours now. so it's still in that kind of honeymoon, getting used to it phase. >> hold it up, so we can see it. >> i've got it right here. >> higher up. >> there we go! and you can see, i mean, you've

got all the functions you would expect. you've got to world clock. you've got your -- >> a clock. imagine that. >> imagine that. it does tell time. everybody is asking. but you've got this suite of apps. over the course of the day, we'll see about 3,000 roll out. and there are some notable ones like facebook and a few google applications that are still missing, that we're yet to see roll out today. >> hmm. and now you've actually developed for the watch. tell us about what the experience is like. >> it was a great experience. clearly, we didn't have a device in hand. so we had to think through, what is the user experience that is best? >> it's hard to do to develop it for something -- >> no. we were invited to the apple labs. we were able to test out our builds, anticipating what the functionality would be. we speculated on what the best user experience would be, and frankly, what the principles of the apple watch, around personalization. they said it's the most personalized device apple has ever made. we simply said, what is the

right value proposition for the user, given the stub hub spot in the marketplace? offering year event alerts, notification of what's coming up in your area. if you have tickets for an invent, it will set up a clock that builds up hype for your event. and finally, being able to enter the venue with mobile tickets. >> how does a watch help your customers? >> well, we are all about helping people connect to each other, more and more, and also to the brands they love. so we're really excited to launch our app for the watch today, because we're going to connect users. if you love -- your three favorite brands are going to go realtime to your watch. if there's new inventory, if there's a sale, it will be right there on your wrist. we'll let you know in realtime. >> do you think this is a luxury item, or is this something that everybody is going to want? apple is selling this at some of

the most elite fashion boutiques. in the world, is it really that kind of product? >> i think it is. i think apple is doing something different here. we see with the three tiers, which is obviously being sold as a true luxury good. even when we're not talking about the addition, i think we can see also with the introduction of the new mac book, that apple wants to think of its devices as lifestyle product, not just tools that help you finish your to-do list. they're really things you live with. and they want you to think of them as a part of yourself and an expression of yourself. >> you know, i'm all about gold but i think i want one of the sporty ones. >> oh! fine. i'll return the gold. so steve and i -- i have sort of a small watch collection. none of them are particularly expensive, but i think that the generation referenced is going to be interesting for people. people who have a bunch of watches, are they going to

abandon all the items they have for something that will be outdated in a couple of years? >> i'm not sure people are going to want to give all of these up. i'm already anticipating kind of having some mis-feelings for my vintage watches in a couple of days. i do think this is a product you would have to wear every day. i don't think this is a product you can wear half the time or leave it home sometimes, if you're really going to get the most out of it. >> hang on. we're going to continue this conversation after the break. steven the lucky guy who has the apple watch tracy... we'll be continuing this conversation after a quick break. ♪

>> welcome back to bloomberg west. i'm emily chang. coming up, more on the apple watch and just how companies are scrambling to nail their app debut. plus my special sit-down in just a few moments. first, a check of your bloomberg top headlines. shares of the indian software giant slumped the most in nearly a year. that is after the company's annual sales forecast disappointed for the first time since it's c.e.o. took charge in august. the research firm, gartner projects world wide spending on i.t. will shrink. elaine wynn has lost her bid for reelection to the board of wynn resorts. they said an ongoing legal dispute between elaine wynn and her ex-husband, c.e.o. steve wynn, was bearing too much influence on board decisions. we turn now back to the apple watch, which is on a few wrists

not mine. not corey's. but steven has it in new york, and he is with it. you won't see long lines of diehard fans today. apple has chosen not to make the watch available in its retail stores. customers can buy it in select high-end department stores. will this help distinguish it as the luxury fashion item apple hopes it will be? steven is back with us and the watch. corey johnson is still here, tracy and parag. parag, let's start with you again. in talking about just how important is the initial debut of an app? how important is it to nail that initial debut? >> well, in software development you focus on your v1 product and figure out, what is the right minimum experience that you want to build? you didn't have a device in hand as your building this product so pairing down your features to figure out what's the right entry point to the market is the

first task of business. now that the device is out, now that we can try this on our phones plus our watches, and see the interaction between the two, you'll start to see the quality of the experiences increase. the use of interaction to the phone, as i mentioned, continuation of your experience from a watch to a phone will start to improve. >> you're saying that the killer app maker may have made an app for it, but it might not be there yet? >> i think so. everyone is figuring out, what's the right use, given what they have today. then they'll start to figure out the capabilities of the watch and frankly what the public wants out of a watch. >> steven, would you echo that now that you've used it? >> i guess so. just for a few hours. but i do think that the software experience is going to define this product in a way that it might not have for some other products. so far, the apps that are out do have much more limited functionality than what you're used to on your iphone and whether those are the right interactions, the wrong

interactions or something else entirely, i think, is yet to be seen. >> also, i think your point about siri -- we were talking about it during the break -- it's interesting, when you think about the competition between apple and google, that if all the input is siri -- as much as google is a data company that learned from every search, apple now gets a chance to do that. >> and i don't think google will not build an app for the watch. >> they haven't yet. 3,000 developers and google is not one of them. it's like a jay z song. no. >> i can't speak to that. but it is interesting to think about all that data being released to apple. >> tracy, how important is this to not just your customer but in terms of every customer? >> we are all bullish about the watch. i think that's going to be a huge shopping tool going forward. i would agree with what everyone is saying, which is we're all in the v1 phase of this and we're all learning. but the faster you learn, the faster you're going to

understand and develop the experience. so we know this because we launched on mobile, as a mobile-only app, about four years ago, and people were like, come on people aren't going to shop from your phone. four years later, now that's obvious. so when apple says they're going to launch another platform that is going to get people closer to the products they love and to communicating with each other, we jumped on it. and we believe in it so much a that we actually have 85 people in our company and we brought on apple watch for every single person here. >> we should work there. >> i should work there! >> are you guys hiring? >> ha ha! >> and part of of it is because we want 85 people on the ground testing this, so we can learn faster and quicker. >> tracy a very generous cofounder at that. parag, head of mobile for stub hub. bloomberg, stephen, who i hope has security detail. thank you so much. still to come, my exclusive interview with facebook c.e.o.

sheryl and richard branton, coming up. ♪

>> work, family life. as a working mom, i know how hard it is to juggle all of these responsibilities. that's why i was so excited to sit down with facebook c.e.o. sheryl and virgin group founder richard branson for an exclusive conversation about how to manage this great balancing about and whether we all can really have it all. >> one of the reasons i'm honored to be here with richard is when richard and i have talked about this, what he'll say is this is good for my company. we don't have enough diversity at facebook. and the reason we want more diversity is because we think we'll build a better product and a more successful company. i think what will really motivate business and contains

and -- companies and organizations to really take diversity seriously is when they realize that not taking diversity seriously is harming their performance. >> so what is the conversation that you want people to be focused on now? >> it's about the culture. we are not going to get to equality until we change the fundamental stereo stereotypes all over the world. that means we don't fully engage. and we don't fully engage women in the work place. and that's hurting us. we know that at any income level, no matter how active a mother is children with more active fathers do better. they're happier, healthier. they do better in school and at work. >> that means there's a real cost to men not having the opportunities or not taking the opportunities to be as active parents as women. >> when i was pregnant with my first child, i ran an article that told me -- i read an article that told me i couldn't have it all. i cried for a couple of weeks.

and i reached out to you sheryl, and you said no, this is not happening. you're gonna do it. and that's honestly part of the reason i'm still here. so can women have it all? >> with el, let's ask -- well let's ask, do you ever get asked if you can have it all? like in an interview? can you have it all? how do you have it all? do you ever get asked that? >> no. i suspect i spent nearly as much time with my kids as my wife has spent with the kids. so, you know when my kids were young, i moved out of the office. i worked from home. you know, i had the kids calling around while i was having meetings. i'd be changing them as we were having meetings. and, you know, i found the time and was allowed the time to work from home. and i therefore think companies should give men that flexibility to work at home.

>> well, yahoo just ended its work-from-home policy. are they on the wrong side of history? >> i think they are. i think it was a mistake. and i said so. and we agreed to differ on it. you know, she had a problem with the company and she wanted to -- >> the c.e.o. of yahoo. >> i personally think it's mistaken. i think that the people working from home and if they've got kids they can get the job done at home and they can, you know, be around their kids. >> the trial captured the fascination of the country. highlighting this issue of gender discrimination in silicon valley. the jury found in favor of kleiner perkins. what did you see in that trial? >> i thought what was so interesting about the trial is that so many women, not just in technology, but across

industries, saw their own experiences. and you saw women posting. i mean, i wrote a whole book about it. but what's happening is that we have systematic stereotypes of women and systemic biases of women, that for men like ability and success is correlated. for women, success and likability are negatively correlated. as a women gets more powerful, she is less liked. a lot of the things that powell alleged were small. she was asked to take notes at a meeting. she wasn't invited to a dinner an all-male dinner. a lot of these things are incremental, small things that don't seem like a big deal but taken together, maybe they are. how do you prevent those kinds of small things? >> one interesting thing that came out of the dinner we had is how some women said they're not invited, for instance, to go on business trips, because of the american law which is -- you

know, where the men are worried about sexual harassment, so suddenly it's all the men going on business trips and the women are left behind. there are some sort of slightly bizarre things that perhaps need to be thought about to overcome that sort of men bonding going on. but, you know, if i could just give one radical suggestion because i don't actually think we're going to get to a situation where board rooms are equal for another 100 years -- >> wow! >> no. but i think the way to get there is to do what scandinavia has done. and i know a lot of women don't agree with this. i just think you've got to say any new company that sets up from today must have at least 50% women on the board. >> hillary clinton is running for president.

carly just announced. how do you feel, sheryl? >> i'm thrilled anytime a woman runs for office, anywhere in the world, whether it's the local state government, county office, or all the way up to our presidency. i believe this is the first time in our history we've ever had two women running. that's great. the more, the better. >> has anyone called you for advice? >> i know them both and they're great women. what i think is great is i want more women in office on both sides of the aisle, in every party, whether they're the most conservative party in a country or the most liberal, having women makes a big difference. >> are you endorsing anyone yet? >> i think politicians are the people that endorse. but i am very supportive of hillary clinton. and i'd like to see more women presidents all over the world. i think it's time for y'all. >> my exclusive interview with sheryl sandberg and richard branson. catch the full interview in our special tonight, "balancing

act," a conversation on work family and life and whether we can really have it all, tonight 8:30 eastern. you can stream it as well. we'll be right back. ♪

>> this is bloomberg west where we focus on innovation technology and the future of business. let's get a check on bloomberg top headlines. the white house is reviewing its rules on drone strikes after the president acknowledged yesterday that the two hostages accidentally killed in a strike against al-qaeda. still, some congressmen say it's not enough. they want a review into u.s. intelligence procedures and whether drone strikes should be used at all. a major terrorist sting in italy. 18 people arrested all suspected of having links to al-qaeda. two even had reported links to

bin laden. they were plotting against possibly the vatican. some of the suspects are connected to a 2009 bombing in pakistan that killed more than 100 people. second biggest bank lost about $2 billion in value after a statement that messina was stepping down. the problem? that resignation notice was fake. the news was sent around in an e-mail registered to south africa. another italian bank was the target of a suspicious statement in november. the former boss of a trader says there's no way he could have been responsible for the 2010 crash. a million things probably contributed to that crash. he spoke with bloomberg and said he was a star. >> he was always going to be the kind of person i believe would be legendary, potentially legendary, in some way in the

future. the potential to be remembered as being one of the world's greatest. he certainly has been over this generation. >> meantime, he spent another night in jail as he tries to get together $7 million in bail money. chris christie is moving closer to a presidential campaign. his wife has resigned as managing director at the investment firm. her position could have created potential conflicts of interest. the republican has said he'll announce as soon as next month whether he is indeed running for president. now, we learned a whole lot about some of the biggest companies in tech this week. amazon, google facebook, all released earnings. our bloomberg west editor corey johnson has been poring through the numbers. corey? >> emily, the reason we care about earnings, not to see

whether the analysts are right or not, but to see what we learn about the businesses. but two anl analysts who get it right, our editor and goldman sachs. we're going to start with you. facebook and google told us a lot about what's happening with advertising. what did you see in their results that might be a common theme? >> well, i think what you saw in the results from advertising companies throughout the season so far has been that there's just tremendous momentum from advertisers to move dollars online particularly to mobile. you look at the shift that we've seen in advertiser dollars, whether at facebook or twitter or whatever. it's largely coming from the fact that that's where users are spending their time. the fact that television ad dollars have started to catch up with the softness you've seen in ratings just tells us that the other side of that story is happening online. >> so i was really struck by facebook versus google. we were looking at a chart.

maybe we can pull it up again. the growth rate of the pricing was completely different. both companies shifting rapidly towards mobile. but the ad sales is up 32% for facebook. as they move to mobile, the price is going up. but mark as google moves to mobile the cost per click is going down. does that mean google, dumb facebook smart? what's going on? >> i think there's a heck of a lot of noise in those metrics. >> you just made fun of my model. >> i may have, which is a good thing. when facebook ramps up its mobile advertising business it never really bothered to try to perfect it. when mobile started to really ramp up on the internet, the challenge for google was they had spent 10 years protecting desktop search. they had a challenge that facebook never had, because facebook was never got at that. that's point number one. but -- that's point number two. three, this is still incremental

revenue for both companies. what's happening to the internet there's two major things, mobile and video. we actually think that the best position against that right now is facebook. but google is very close number two. >> what do you think in terms of the change in advertising rates for facebook? facebook is increasing and google is decreasing. >> i think the most important thing, whenever thinking about pricing for any company and doing online advertising, is the supply side of things. pricing is almost more of an outcome than a real determinate when you're looking at online advertising. so facebook is seeing a pretty significant decline in the amount of inventory that they're making available, just as they've moved from desktop to mobile. that's going to have a positive impact on pricing. they're also moving to higher-quality ad units on mobile, particularly video as mark mentioned, which is going to have a positive impact for advertising prices. >> so in other words, what you're saying is that the amount

of ads they could put out there could be infinite but they're trying to sort of go for more quality, not particularly quantity at facebook? >> that's exactly the way i would look at it. >> i want to turn now to amazon. so amazon gave us amazon services. there wasn't a lot of disclosure but it was shocking to me the profit margins on amazon web services. seemed very un-amazon-like. >> i don't know of a analyst on wall street who wasn't shocked by those margins. there may have been a handful. this was a huge surprise. >> they beat expectations. >> shockingly. and there's two surprises in here. one is that the business is so intrinsically high margined. the second is that they would allow it to be run that way. the company with a mantra that your margin is my opportunity. it's surprising that they did that. it's almost a little surprising that they displace closed it now, because they put a little wit of a bull -- bit of a

bulls's eye on their back. if they're that high, that good in cloud computing, you bet it's going to bring a lot of competition in. >> except they're lowering prices like crazy. but just as shocking was how unprofitable the rest of the business was. >> well, except that they really haven't. there hasn't really been a major price decrease at aws in over a year, since they took that really big price cut following the introduction of gce. i think what this really shows us, and the thing that we've learned about profitability, because mark is right, that was sort of a shock to everyone, the level of profitability there, was they've got these kind of profits because they can. they're the one company in cloud that's operating at the scale that you need to be operating at to leverage all of that massive infrastructure investment, that amazon has made. and most of their competitors have had to make to try and do what amazon has done. the difference is amazon has got a lot of revenue to go with it,

whereas most of their xer competitors don't. >> thank you so much for coming out. thank you as well. emily? >> thank you corey. well, the dusty desert of new mexico may hold the key to california's water problem. we look at desalination quality. and we ask neil about his plans. ♪

>> this is bloomberg west. i'm emily chang. still to come techs solving the world's water problem. plus the world's most famous astro physicist. publishing company harcourt is buying scholastic's educational tech business for 575 million in cash. the deal will help bolster their presence in the digital learning market.

they already lead with 40% of the market. fantasy sports websites purchased naming rights for the boxing trunks that floyd mayweather will wear in his scheduled may 2 bout against manny pacquiao. terms were not disclosed. as part of the partnership they will award six tickets to the las vegas fight with a face value of $10,000 each. the california drought has captured the attention of the world. but solving the world's water problems has been a long-running goal of u.s. aid's global development lab. corey johnson has a look at how this government agency is spurring innovation in the heart of the american desert for wiring the world. >> dry, dusty hills, cactus rattlesnakes. the badlands of alamogordo, new mexico, just the place to look for water! a half dozen teams of inventors

gathered here to test experimental water purifying machines in the heart of the desert, an effort to win the desalination prize. >> desalination can be cost-effective. and environmentally sustainable whenever you tie it to power sources like renewable energy. >> the desalination machines come in all shapes, sizes. you can hear the buzz from this thing. but the challenge is the same. it takes 4,000 gallons of blackish water from a well to create 75,000 of drinkable water, 2,000 gallons of agricultural-quality water and separate out the junk, using renewable energy. >> one of these machines could create enough water to feed a small farm and family. but the technology could also hold another key. >> they need to replace the water their been cut off from by cleaning water that

previously just sat unused. >> so you may be wondering, why new mexico? why the desert of new mexico? why alamo alamogordo, new mexico? turns out the water here is particularly crummy. it comes down from these mountains, picking up all of the minerals the salt, the arsenic everyone the gypsum. as a result, that water with the arsenic and the salt and the gypsum, it's pretty crummy water. but it's a pretty good test! the prize-winning technology will be used in developing -- these systems could also lead to big business. >> the water market is a trillion dollars. power generation, all of them together, about three bill. so you would need a 3% market share to get $100 million a year. >> corey johnson our editor at large there. a team from mitt went home -- from m.i.t. went home with that $145,000 grand prize this week. they built a machine that reduced the amount of waste

produced by desalination. coming up, america's most famous astrophysicist brings his famous radio show to television next. ♪

>> this is bloomberg west. i'm emily chang. well when he's not busy studying the galaxy, you can often find neil degrasse tyson teaching about science on his radio talk show, star talk. now he's bringing star talk to television. the show premiered on national geographic this week and will host high-profile guests like former president jimmy carter film director christopher nolan and biz stone. i spoke with america's most

famous astrophysicist so ask just why he's bringing science to late-night. >> people, if they don't think deeply about it, would say, oh you're just trying to turn it into a joke or you're just trying to shoe-horn it in where it doesn't belong. no. i think we've done more thinking about it than you might think. it began as a radio show and podcast and it only jumped species this season with national geographic saying, hey, that might work as television. so what we do is we reversed the model. the typical model of learning science is now have a journalist interviewing a scientist. who would tune into that? those are people who already know they like science. and i thought to myself, how about the people who don't know whether or not they like science? or better yet, the people who know they don't like science! how do you ever get science to them? and it occurred to me that if we

reversed the model, where i'm the host, and i'm the scientist, and my guests are not scientists, people drawn from pop culture, people you've heard of, in some capacity or another. then the conversation is about all the ways that science has influenced their lives or their livelihood. >> do you have any recurring gags to take on the likes of jimmy fallon? i mean, are we going to see you dancing around with the first lady? >> ha ha! when this story first hit, the press, i think, ran with it a little too far. they were saying tyson takes on late night, tyson -- no. there's no monologue. there's no band. there's no -- no, no. it's only one night a week. it's not even gonna be sort of current events topical. it's going to be a conversation with a very high shelf life, as the science that is discovered and is understood what drives the universe. so no, no no. i won't be dancing.

no. ha ha! >> this show is, of course, inspired by your popular podcast. this is a technology show. a lot of your fans watch our show as well. i wonder, how has technology helped you teach your fans about science? bring the universe down to earth, as you say? >> yeah. i would have never predicted what's going on today. i mean, growing up i've had thoughts every day, what the world looks like through my lens, as a scientist and as an educator. when twitter came along, i realized, that's a place to put those thoughts. previously i'd have the thought. it would just dissipate into the ether, never to be recovered again. now with twitter, i can say, oh let me share these thoughts with people. i realized that many people who are either not educators or scientists are intrigued by what the world looks like to someone who is. and i wake up every morning and say, what? there's like three and a half mill twitter followers? should i remind them that i'm

actually a astrophysicist, still time to back out? so it tells me that there's an underserved appetite that the public has for thinking about science and learning about how this world works. >> what about the podcast medium in particular? i feel like podcasts are having a moment right now. obviously yours has been popular for a long time. but now i feel like the greater mainstream is embracing the podcast. serial, for example, went viral. what do you think it is about podcast? >> the idea that you can learn without having to always look at images. i think that's -- you know, our parents, grandparents and their parents, sat around the radio in the living room, listening to information. it's reyou've naited -- rejuvenated literacy on some level, because now words have to do all the talking, rather than just images. that's in the podcast world. we're in our successful podcast

and radio show, successful if i might say. a month ago, star talk was the number one downloaded podcast on itunes. we're all very proud about that. but, again, it's a sign that there's a hunger out there and we are the servants of that hunger. >> how well do you know a guy like elon musk? what do you think about what he's doing? >> we actually had musk on the radio show. he just missed sort of our cutoff for getting him on television. so yeah. we've had him. as a matter of fact, it was a couple of weeks ago. you can find it online. ha ha! we actually made news during that interview, because we were yucking it up about aliens and possibly the discovery of intelligent aliens. and he mused that if the aliens are sufficiently intelligent and they come upon us, they might just want to make us our pets because here we are thinking we're intelligent and we will conquer other things. no. that's human hubris kicking in preventing you from thinking how

intelligent some entity might actually be. elon musk is an ideal kind of guest for star talk. >> what about the topics? what science topics are you most excited about right now? >> i'm excited about all science topics. but star talk, as a program, is not topic driven. it's not like, "today we're going to talk about moon landings or mars exploration." that means science is driving the show. star talk the guests are driving the show. the guest is there and we orbit science talk around that person's life and that person's profession. so, for example, one of the people i interviewed is stone. i had known him in name but had not really felt who he was until i had him on star talk. he's the cofounder of twitter. i get inside his head and we learn what was going on in there for him to invent this and to develop it and to imagine that it could become what it did. and so you get inside the head of the entrepreneur.

and especially the tech entrepreneur because that's what is shaping our modern lives. that's where conversations go. they're always pivoting on who the guest is. >> neil degrasse tyson astrophysicist and host of "star talk" on national geographic. it's time for the bite where we focus on one number that tells a whole lot. are you going to watch star talk? >> maybe. i don't watch a lot of t.v. after bloomberg west, what is there? >> not much. there is a bloomberg west bite. >> 25. a number that tells us a lot about the hubble space telescope. 25 years ago, the hubble went up into space since made over 137,000 trips or nearly that many, and captured data and images of 38,000 objects. it's been -- it was supposed to be an incredible thing. it has been an incredible thing. >> it's interesting, reading the history of it. you know they started building it in the 1970's.

and it took years. >> about 10 years to build it. look at that, going up in the space shuttle. just incredible. and i -- it's captured so much information about the universe and really helps scientists. also worth noting it's not the most powerful telescope launched. the most powerful one is a secret project, not pointing towards space. it's pointed toward the earth, gathering data on people not an terrestrial objects. but to the hubble is about to be improved on with the james webb space telecope. it's going to have a much bigger mirror about three times the size. >> another way to bring the universe down to earth. >> space is getting to be really cool. did you talk to branson about that at all? >> he is way into space! >> yes i know. >> thank you corey. great friday bite. this is friday by the way. we forgot to mention that. thank you all for watching this edition of bloomberg west.

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announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. charlie: we begin this program with a story from the white house, in which the president announced an american drone strike had killed two hostages. an american and an italian in january. the story from the news with scott kelly. scott: it wasn't until april that the cia realized it had killed two hostages. american aid worker warren weinstein