>> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. charlie: par 4 earthquake hit nepal, the worst one to hit nepal in 80 years. more than 4000 injuries have been confirmed. the death toll is expected to rise. the quake also launch an avalanche on non-everest. 18 were killed and dozens more were injured.

joining by phone is the former prime minister of the country. i'm pleased to have each of them on this program. tell us about the area that has been in nepal that has been affected and what is the status as much as you know of the people there. >> the epicenter is in kathmandu. it was not in there. it is one of the most densely populated urban areas.

as you said earlier, charlie, over about 4000 deaths so far. 8000 injured, and people are still sleeping outside. charlie: what could the death toll rise to? what are the worst expectations? sanjeev: probably double the number but still, the rescue the recovery is going down in different parts of nepal. in the next two days, we will definitely see the number go out. significantly. charlie: what about aid coming in? sanjeev: there is a lot of aid coming in, pouring in from china and the u.s., israel, and other countries. my fear is there has to be a better coordination. i hope there is better

coordination on the aid that is pouring in so that it goes to the right places. they goes to the right places, and it is optimally effective. charlie: is -- evacuation might uncover those [indiscernible] sanjeev: we have to remember the next phase, the danger of widespread diseases that might come about. that is something that needs to be careful. charlie: laurent, you can speak to that. tell us what haiti's experience was after the earthquake that hit your country. laurent lamothe: the country was completely in shock and certainly one of the big challenges that we had also was the coordination of aid. we had several thousand helping, we had several governments helping.

one -- what is important to remember and focus on, you have leadership and response, for the government to lead this effort [inaudible] and coordinate the aid coming in. i know it is challenging and many people want to respond and want to do it immediately, but it is important that the government of the country is allowed to lead the coordination, the coordination effort. we have responded so far. it is important for the international community to support the country by promising the aid and whatever they promise should be continued and transparent and

very [indiscernible] because one of the things that happened in haiti, we were promised $9 billion, but we made all the reconstruction and redevelopment plans taste on -- based on revenue that we would get from the conference and we only had 48%. half of it. so this should be correct this time. charlie: talk about the science and why this is an area that is prone to this kind of thing. andrew: the subcontinent of india is ramming into asia. it has been for millions of years. the power of that is what lifted up the himalayas. just an extraordinaire he amount of energy there and it gets pent-up and periodically released. there are false and the earth that are more predictable than others. science is still unfolding but at the same time, what has happened in places like all along the himalayan front rage not just the mountains but cities like delhi have sprouted to be mega-cities. kathmandu -- i was just there recently. it is not a mega-city yet but you have this inrush of people

where the tectonic history has become more apparent to scientists. it is happening -- the development is happening in fast motion even though you have these slow-motion forces. it is not editable to the point where you can say it will be next year. the political priority is always other things. when you have it in earthquake on top of basic functionality development. you get this kind of real -- it is a horrifying thing. the scientists i talked to have this wrenching sense of inevitability. i wrote about that on my blog. you do what you can through education and working with officials to get some capacity to not just responding to the event but making sure that you are the next one at least, you are reducing the risk ahead of time.

the u.n. has a big effort along these lines as well. sanjeev: the last time was 1988, we had a six point some richter scale earthquake. this was east of kathmandu and we had 1000 deaths at that time. this one because it is so shallow, so shallow and that is what you see the massive devastation and loss of life. charlie: how many people were killed in haiti? laurent: [indiscernible] at half a million injured. the number one thing that we learned is to bring the country back to normal and avoid by all costs the tent camps.

in doing so, providing centers to residents that are in dire need of help, to respond quickly and evacuate people to other cities, but to avoid the tent camps. after the earthquake, we had about 1.5 million people in tent camps that represented 50% of the residents of port-au-prince. that was a huge challenge after and it took us four years to solve that problem and it took us over $100 million in cost. it is important for the 30's and first responders -- authorities and first responders to apply a strategy to avoid the people staying in tents too long. charlie: do you have any warning that this is coming? andrew: the earth is a complicated system. you do know, overall, you do know, whether it is istanbul or haiti where there is another one, that was not a one-time event. in fact it has probably raise , the odds in haiti for the next session closer to port-au-prince.

for my piece today in "the times," there is a section that says this is quite probably at least slightly tipped the odds of a bigger one happening. but again, the scientists who told me this thing said we cannot say of this is tomorrow or next week or 20 years from now. and, that is why one thing that is very important in the fall and i am sure you agree, this is not the big one for kathmandu. as you heard, this was a little further away. sometimes you feel like you are over it am a we did ok. the death toll is much less than people predicted. there was talk for many years about over 100 times in fatalities. charlie: what does this mean for the economy? sanjeev: it will set the country back definitely. one good thing that will come out of this, we have had this

very fractious political situation. we still do not have a constitution. we are still looking for a new constitution. what people are hoping is, in light of this calamity, that the political parties will come to gather the rebuilding efforts and hope only that will keep the country in the right direction politically and socially. it is a very fractious political situation. a lot of talk about federalism that is going on. you have not been able to move it in the right direction. so, that is our hope. charlie: back to haiti. when the attention goes away does aid go away? laurent: absolutely. absolutely, and that is one of the situations we have to do with, when the cameras are off the funding dries out and the interest in the country dies off. the lesson that we have learned

is to draft a coherent strategy and to work with the international part nurse and execute a plan that we control it in terms of rebuilding the country. that is the hardest part in the biggest challenge is that when the headline go away the donors lose interest and do not necessarily keep the funding going, which significantly hurts the country in the long run. charlie: thank you. laurent, thank you for joining great to have you here. laurent, thank you for joining us. laurent: thank you. ♪

charlie: we conclude this evening with roger goodell, the commissioner of the nfl. i'm going to talk about two things. one, this idea of the nfl having to have a different standard than law enforcement. so you're not waiting for decision by law enforcement. about how you will look at

cases of personal abuse. roger: we have a personal conduct clause and you can violate our policy but not violate the law because we do have a higher standard. we also do not have to prove it in a court of law. so, if we believe that an act is more likely to have happened and violates our personal conduct policy, then, we can subject that individual to discipline, and that is something we think is part of having a higher standard in the nfl. people expect more from the nfl. they expect the cap -- the people, commissioners, the owners, the players, they expect a very higher level of standard and what we do not hit that, there are consequences for that.

charlie: has this experience reminded you of the fact that, through adversity, through challenging times, where there are people who suffered, you might learn things that might make your institution stronger than if it had not gone through? roger: yes. you also -- always want to avoid that if you can. charlie: it is not fun. roger: it is never fun. you have to say what are the right things to do going forward and we always try to do that. when you do not hit that mark, it just remind you that you have to work harder and you have to reach higher. charlie: how did you handle this idea of people who thought that tape of ray rice had to be somehow, maybe you had seen it even though you said you had not. someone else had seen it. maybe they had not. maybe it was lying around. at that time, there were a lot of people who said there is no way that the nfl would not have its hands on the tape. roger: the best way of doing that was going and getting someone whose integrity was unquestioned, who was independent, and giving them full ability to look into whatever they wanted to look into. phone records, texts, e-mails, anything to help them determine that was the case. what the director found his we did not have a tape.

we did not see the tape. either one of those issues. that was something we needed to able to go to to make sure that our [indiscernible] knew, that our general public knew that was not the case. i believe the director did that in a way that is beyond reproach. charlie: his conclusion was there was no tape. roger: -- that there was no tape here. and that no one had seen the tape you. -- the tape here. charlie: is your mission to make sure that the nfl knows more about the issue than \mor about the issue than anybody and is doing more? roger: we want to do more. we will never know more than the medical world. what we want to do -- we want research to be done, so that we know what the facts are, and we can do the best we possibly can to protect our players when

they are playing and every other generation of players in all sports. charlie: what is the responsibility of those who may have already suffered and no longer live? roger: we have programs that are designed for that. we have any players that may have suffered injuries, we have programs that we hope will be responsive to getting them the kind of care a need. whether it was caused by football or not. a lot of times you cannot really determine causation. that is one of the things that judge brodie said in her decision. that causation was not clear here. there are other legal defenses. what we wanted to do was write

and -- right and get resources available to families that are going through difficult times, and that is what we have done. ♪

charlie: roger goodell has been commissioner of the nfl since 2006. under his leadership, the league has cemented its place. revenues have grown more than 60% to roughly $10 billion per year. 2014 was a trying year for the nfl. a series of off-field incidents involving player violence

sparked a national uproar. he apologized for not doing more about ray rice. he punched his fiancee in in elevator. the nfl responded by revamping its player conduct policy and adding staff to handle discipline issues. safety on the field has been a priority. if -- efforts have been made to compensate former layers who suffer from the effect. i spoke with roger goodell at the nfl office in manhattan. you have the job that you always wanted. you have a job that many people consider the best job in the world. especially if they are football fans. but it has been a tough year since july. what have you learned for yourself?

for this league, that is important for all of us to know? roger: it has been a tough year in many ways. we responded in a very positive way. the changes we have made for the personal conduct policy, personnel that are around us that help us make it or decisions. and also, to get away from a complete reliance on law enforcement specifically to domestic violence issues sexual assault issues. charlie: meaning initiate your own investigations? roger: not only initiating but carrying it through. not in conflict with the criminal justice system, but there are information and facts that we want to know that are going to be important to us in applying our standard and what we did in our personal conduct policy is that that policy

fourth to make sure that people understood exactly what the standards were but also the process. we have seen that play out where the process allows us to get better facts, better information which will lead to a better decision. including having better people around us, people to give you perspective. that is something that we always knew the nfl was held to a high standard, we understand and embrace that. we accept that and we have to do do better. and on we do not reach the bar we are going to have to do better in the future to my and that is what we are committed to doing. charlie: is there any other lesson for you yourself, understanding the challenge you faced, understanding the role you had to play? roger: anytime you are making decisions you want to get that perspective. you have the people who may disagree, who can bring a different perspective, understand complex issues and help you make better decisions going forward. that is something that we are committed to, i am committed to. as an individual, adversity is something that helps you grow and learn. we always want to keep

learning. you want to learn about yourself but also your organization. charlie: do you ask yourself now, i wish i had no -- known more about this, i wish i had more sensitivity to this? roger: well, i think you want to have a better understanding. i had very limited exposure from -- to domestic violence certainly from a personal standpoint. that is something i now understand. charlie: what took you -- what did it take to make you understand? roger: i have been to the shelters, to the national hotline. you speak with survivors and advocates and you understand better the complexity of this issue. when we were down at hotline last fall, i got a much deeper understanding of this when you hear fear that these advocates will tell you that victims are feeling, the sense of helplessness, that all strikes you very personally.

as a father of twin girls, this is something you do not want anything to go through. we are now in a better position to be able to deal with that in a responsible fashion. and i believe that our policies are going to have an impact well beyond on football. they will have an impact -- charlie: you want to set a standard. roger: we want to take care of ourselves and we want to do this right. we believe we are setting the standards. charlie: how do you make sure that it is real, it is -- it is tough, and this league wants to prove to its fans and earn their trust, but prove and impress the larger community that you are talking about to take this seriously. this is not just about words. roger: two things.

you're judged on your actions, ultimately. how you do it. we have engaged experts that i think anybody in the broader community would say these people bring experience, wisdom, knowledge that will help us make better decisions going forward. they are experts in their field. the best of the best and we have seen that behind lisa [inaudible] and todd jones who brings a wealth of knowledge in the criminal justice system. these are the kinds of people that will help us make it or decisions, make sure our policies are kept up to speed. but the complexity of some of these areas are something that we really truly did not understand how complex they were, and how much we had to do to really deal with these things effectively. charlie: why do you think you did not understand? roger: the real justice system could do with this and we would respond based on what they find. what we found is you cannot rely simply on the criminal justice system that you are going to have to go out and get your own fact and set your own

standards and apply them to your standard. not through a criminal justice standard. they have certain reasons why they do certain things. certain reasons why they will share information and not others. we have to rely on ourselves. charlie: if you look at the conversation with my colleague after seeing the investigation would you have answered anything differently because you know more today? roger: i do not remember the interview in detail. you have probably watched it recently but i have not. i think what we found was that we found the most reliable information ones from law enforcement and we did not want to conflict with that and with what they were doing. charlie: you had not seen the tape. roger: we had not seen the tape which was demonstrated in the mueller report. it is clear what we said factually, what we would like to have been is in a position

where we had a better policy where we had her people, and where we could have gotten to a better conclusion based on more fat is initially as opposed to at a later date. charlie: how do you determine punishment? roger: it is something that we spent a great deal of time on. based on the actual incident went we would call aggravating factors that in domestic violence, as an example, where children are involved, and where there is any type of weapons involved. strike elevation any kind of choking, those are all back doors. it is called "x -- "escalation

or co- -- it is called "escalation." what happens is those have a tendency to indicate anything -- something more serious might happen even though the image -- initial incident could be serious. it starts as may be an emotional abuse and it escalates. charlie: does anything you know tell you this is unique to football or this is a societal issue that comes to focus in professional football because of the nature of the attention? roger: i would say exactly the opposite, charlie. this is what we heard from our experts. this is a societal problem. it is happening at every realm whether it is sports are in the corporate world or any other world around the globe. these are issues that are happening. they are being brought out into the open. and that is something that is good. it is normalizing the conversation and that is something we think is good ultimately for this type of an issue because we as a society can deal with these issues more effectively. charlie: let me talk about some of the cases. ray rice, where is he today?

roger: he is a free agent. charlie: you believe a team will sign him? roger: that is up to the team. charlie: greg hardy. you announced the suspension for 10 games without pay. how do you decide, how do you measure appropriate? roger: it is based on your policies. it is based on the fact that you have to gather information that will support a decision for suspending a player for any number of games or an office employee or anyone in the nfl. we are all subject to the same policy. you have to get the facts. we have gotten more facts in our most recent cases because we have lisa, who is investigating these cases independently. we also have outside experts that are helping us identify the information as pertinent and allow us to make it -- make decisions in going forward. that is what we ultimately need

, the facts and then we can apply our policy. if you violate our policy, you are subject to discipline. that couldn't be in the form of suspension. if there is a second offense that we would consider a violent crime, [inaudible] we have been clear with all personnel about that. charlie: all players know that they have been instructed, they have been told that by their individual teams. roger: one of the issues is there is a great deal of focus punishment and discipline. one of the things we focus on his education. how do we prevent these incidents from occurring? part of that is our educational process in making sure that people understand what is expected of them. if they need assistance, here is where to go and get assistance on a local basis, on a confidential basis, and if you need additional help including counseling, we will provide that. charlie: adrian peterson. roger: adrian has been reinstated. he has conditions that are in

-- that are imposed on that and he is a member of the minnesota vikings stop -- of the minnesota vikings. charlie: what was the dialogue like with your owners during this period? in some cases, you're talking about highly regarded players. they lose the service, they lose some possibilities for how that team will do. what was the quality and the nature of the conversation of their advice to you during all of this? roger: i think our owners understand that the personal conduct policy is important for us. our reputation, the way we do things, is critically important. whether it affects your team or not. we want to hold to standards of the nfl. i never had any pressure from any owners about anyway impacting on the suspension. charlie: they understood that consequences. this was a very trying time for the nfl. roger: they were incredibly supportive.

they knew we were doing the because right things. we were working and the things that we were doing were working. but also, the way that we were leading toward a solution, of a new policy with the right personnel, that is where we had to go. and our owners were very supportive and they believe we are heading in the right direction. charlie: you're not waiting for someone to report a terrible personal abuse incident. you are very eager to make sure that it is not going on, even though it has not been reported. roger: some of that goes to the education and preventing it from happening. when an incident occurs, you are obligated as a club or any personnel to report that. there is an ongoing obligation to do that. it is not just simply reporting some incident. it means if you get any information at any point in time, it needs to be reported

so we can follow that and make sure that we have all the fact on the case. charlie: where are we with respect to concussions today? roger: we have made significant changes to the game at the nfl level which impacts at all levels of the game. we have had a 25% reduction in concussions this last season. that continues a three-year trend which is about 35%. i think a lot of that is because there is more awareness. there are better processes in place with our medical personnel to identify the injury. but we are preventing these injuries through equipment. we saw a significant reduction in hits to the head. in this room right here, we spend a lot of time evaluating those hits. the right kind of technique that players should use and cultures should coach so these injuries do not occur in the first place. this changes have been very effective as supplied by the data. charlie: which ones have been the most effective? roger: hits to the head.

the room changes are when a player is defenseless, we did not allow a player to be struck in the shoulder or had. and that has reduced injuries, certainly concussions, as proven by the data. for not only the player being struck but also the player striking the other player. so these are changes where our players, our coaches have adapted. and it has been good for the game not just at the nfl but , all levels of football. charlie: has the game suffered were you have to be much safer and you have to change the roles that and you have to make contact a bit different? roger: i do not think so. we have proven that. the game is better and safer than ever and that is because our roles work. charlie: safer does not mean it is less exciting.

roger: it does not and i think we have proven that. our game has never been more exciting. it has never been more competitive and it has not been more safer. we are getting back to the fundamentals of the game. we are using the right techniques. we have medical professionals that are on the sidelines, up in the box identifying when a hit occurs that someone needs to be evaluated. we are implementing a new rule this year called the medical time out. if someone does not see that a player was struck aggressively and struggling potentially on the field, either wobbly or it looks like the individual is in distress, we will stop the game and we will have medical personnel get them to the sideline and make sure they are properly evaluated medically. charlie: what are you doing in terms of where the kickoff is, where the extra point is, all of these things. roger: we moved the kickoff 10 years ago. we have been aggressive in rule changes that have had a very positive impact on the game. either techniques or plays where we see a higher frequency of injury like a kickoff.

we have taken those out or limited that so it has had a dramatic impact not just on concussions but all kinds of injuries. our focus is not just on the concussion. it is on all types of injuries. charlie: when a player chooses not to continue his career because he is frankly worried about it come even though there is medical evidence he is suffering from any kind of impact, does that affect the conversation at the league among different teams, does it cause players to rethink the impact of the game on their health? roger: i think all players come into it with a sense that they do have a limited career.

they are balancing what they want to do personally from professionally and they are making decisions for personal reasons -- and they should. what we want them to do is make informed decisions off of the best science, the best medical information, and i would tell you that i think our players are getting the best medical care anywhere in the world. they have access to that, they have experts to -- and second opinions. they will be in the best decision to make those decisions but they will be in a position to make better decisions about whether it is the right time to transition to another career, and we have done that with our player engagement efforts, education to help our players not just be successful on the field but more important, off the field. charlie: you when you heard the president say, if i had a son i might consider him not playing football what was your response? roger: playing youth sports is something that is important for all of us. i played and i love it -- loved it. i would not give up a single day of football. in youth sports, particularly football, it is safer for all of us. we know more.

we are aware of more. when i was a kid, we could not take a water break. because if you took a water break, you were soft. that is not the way it is anymore. it is important to be properly hydrated. it is important to wear your equipment properly. it is important when you have a concussion or you do not feel well, to get medical attention. that is good for the sport. that is good for the kids. the nfl is leading the way on this. charlie: how would you appraise the settlement that was made? roger: we thought it was important to do that, because we thought the players who were hurt may need assistance or their families as soon as possible rather than litigating this for years and years. we have a fund that is available based on need. this is something that the judge said in her -- there were several questions about causation, about the preemption motion and the legal arguments and this was a very difficult case to prove. i think it is the right thing for all of us to take a breath.

charlie: as you know, you read commentary. some thought was -- it was in the end, it should have been larger. roger: you have to start with the fact on that. we had a cap system initially. the judge encouraged us to take the cap off. there is not a particular dollar amount on the fund right now. this fund is there for several years, several decades and for players to get it and families to get it, if they have neurological disorders of some kind. this is something we have done we think is responsible. we think it is the right thing for players and their families and we are proud of the relationship to my and if you look at the number of offsets, it was less than 1%. that number is going down dramatically. what we have here i think is a judge who understood that the challenges of this legally, and frankly, whether the research indicates the types of things that people were charging.

there were real challenges in that and we felt this was the right thing to do for our players and their families. charlie: is any part of you worried that this is a larger problem than we now recognize? roger: that is why we are investing in research. that is why we are doing the will of the work we are doing. we invested $30 million with the national. half of that is going to cpe so it can be studied properly i scientists, by medical professionals. we think the facts will be good for us and we look for those facts so we can do the right things in the game, and the research, and frankly, to making sure we do everything possible to make our game safer. charlie: do you need one czar as some suggest, in terms of the personal responsibility, to run this. you have lisa and you have todd

jones. roger: we have people with great expertise. i do not think the answer is handing it off to one czar. all of us will have to contribute to making decisions going forward. we all have a shared responsibility in this. charlie: how do you characterize the question about the ball and the patriots and whether it was deflated or not? what is your term for that? roger: our term for that is simply, were there in anyway footballs that were manipulated in any way during the game that would violate our rules? there is not a timeframe. charlie: why is this hard? it is one game, one ball. roger: one of the things he would be asked to look for, it was not just one game. charlie: is there suspicion there is more than one game?

roger: there is no suspicion of anything. we are just trying to make sure we are thorough. we are properly evaluating whether there was a violation of the rules. the most important thing here is was there a violation of the rules and how did that occur? charlie: when do you expect the report? roger: the indications are that he has finished the interview section and he will be issuing his report soon. charlie: some people in the patriots think it is unfair. roger: what is unfair, the report? they have not seen it yet. charlie: the accusation.

roger: it will come out in the report. we have not made a judgment one way or the other about whether there is a violation of the rules her there are factse here that. need to be evaluated and they will be evaluated. -- there are facts here that need to be evaluated and they will be evaluated. and make sure that things were done fairly. what we have done is made the game safer for players and players at all levels and i think in all sports. i think the awareness, the prevention that we put in place to stop injuries from occurring or at least limit the injuries are all things that will benefit our game, our players for future generations, and i think that is something we would be very proud of. there are other things we proud of also. charlie: what is the future of the nfl? roger: very bright. i said to our owners that we have a great foundation here to build on. we have tremendous success.

but we also have our challenge. the biggest issue we have to address is we cannot be complacent. we cannot be arrogant about it. we have to go and deal with our challenges and fix them. charlie: the l.a. franchise. will there be a team and alley by a certain date? roger: we are not going to require it by a certain date. it is important for us to do it right if we are going to do it. the stadium is a vague component of that. we have to have a stadium that will compete in that market where there are certainly high standards. charlie: there has not been a team in l.a. since 1995. roger: 2008. that is one of our challenges. we want to be back in los angeles. we cannot do it where we are not successful long-term. charlie: you have two stadiums proposed. roger: we have both proposed and what we need is success in the long term. that has not occurred in the los angeles market for several decades. the coliseum was not working for the team long-term. the teams left. now we are talking about

stadiums that i think have all the elements of being successful for the fans, for the teams, and the community. charlie: when will that happen when do expect to see this? roger: when we get there. there is a great deal of progress. it is the first time we have had two stadiums that are entitled, that means they can be built. and an evaluation for the communities and the nfl to see which one of these will work. charlie: it will be one of two proposed stadiums. roger: it will be one. we have challenges in the

current market. we have an obligation to those communities to make sure we have done everything to make the teams successful in the current market. in san diego, oakland, or st. louis. charlie: three teams that are considering moving to l.a. roger: we would like to know if a stadium can be built there and will the team be successful long-term? it is one of -- when you look at our challenges going forward, the media world is changing so dramatically. we see it all around us, literally. charlie: i asked you where the best place would be to watch the super bowl and you said right here. roger: our broadcast partners do an incredible job of showing the game that i think is great experience on television, but it is an even better experience in the stadium. when you have 75,000 or 80,000 people behind you, you bring a group behind the team, there is no better experience. you and i have enjoyed that together and it is incredible. we want to have people experience that in the stadium but we also want them to have a great experience at home or their mobile device or anyway they want to engage football. that is our job. we have to make it a better experience for them. charlie: that means television revenues will go up. roger: we will keep the quality of the game and experience and

deliver values to our partner. charlie: what about overseas? roger: we think our game has a tremendous potential globally. we have focused a great deal of attention on canada and mexico but we have been successful in the u.k. as you have mentioned. we have a series of regular season games in london. they have been incredibly successful. we sold out every one of them. we played three games last year and we will play three games this year. there is a tremendous fan base and growth potential for us there and we will continue to play games, we will continue to be active. charlie: how many nights? you added thursday night on cbs. roger: i am glad you put that in. charlie: it is good for cbs and the nfl. how many nights of football should we have?

roger: it has not only good -- been good for cbs and the nfl, has been good for fans. our fans have rallied around it. they're watching football on thursday night in record numbers in part because of our partner cbs but they want to see more football. i do not see us playing any other night of the week. we do not play on fridays and saturdays out of respect for high school and college football. we do not do that until they are done. late in the season. this is something -- charlie: sunday night? roger: sunday night, monday night. and those nights when college football is done. you have competitive issues in there. i also think one of the things you always try to do is meet the demand of our fans, that you do not want to cross that

line. you do not want to get to the point where you saturated the interest in the game. charlie: you said you always want them wanting more. roger: you always want them wanting more. we are about hope. we are about creating hope for all of our fans, that their team is going to win the super bowl. you want to make sure they come in every season without hope and second, you always want them to want more and to be able to experience football in different ways. charlie: were there any plays in which even after looking at instant replay, the wrong decision was made? last season. roger: when you look at this and you see all the rules, when we have a play that comes up you can see the angles. charlie: every one of these screens represents a camera? roger: what you have here is

different stations so there is four views that any individual is watching and you can put it up on the big screen behind be. we have several of our officiating members at -- in the room at the time and they will watch it here. they will make a determination of whether it is the right call. a lot of times what we get our people that do not like the rural -- rule. charlie: after the controversies you have had to deal with, do you feel like you have regained or done what you have to do to meet the challenge of fans who might have a gun to lose some sense -- begun to lose some sense of how football -- pro football was being handled? roger: at the end of the day it is how you do things. charlie: the process? roger: the outcome. do we -- the standards.

do we make decisions that our fans are proud of? they understand they are doing -- they are being done with the highest level of integrity. do our games stay strong? do we do everything possible to make our players safe at all levels of football? do we make the experience better for our fans? how do we do that? all those things go into, is it worth my time as a fan to invest in football, whether it is my family's time, my time, my money, my resources, the jerseys that i wear, they'll want to be part of -- proud of their -- they all want to be proud of their affiliation. anytime you go through adversity, that is part of the challenge. charlie: you did not say to yourself and you said you questioned decisions and awareness of certain issues.

roger: you have to look at get all your decisions and not be afraid to reevaluate those. when we had the decision last summer with ray rice, the domestic violence case, we brought experts in an august immediately after the decision knowing we have to do this differently. we have to evaluate our policy we about -- reevaluate our policy and implement a new policy. we were on our way towards doing that. these are things that are expected of us, to learn from the mistakes, do better and i am at the head of that list. i am responsible for what goes on here, good, bad, or indifferent, i have to make sure i am doing everything i can to be the best commissioner i can. charlie: are you making the nfl the best you can? roger: i could not be more optimistic about the nfl but i also could not be prouder of the things we are doing in making this game a better game and a safer game and something that fans will be part -- proud of following. charlie: you could almost say that for all the pain and -- that was suffered by individuals, medical, whether it is personal violations, you learn from it in a way that will make you strong. roger: i believe in that. i believe in adversity.

charlie: adversity sometimes makes you better. roger: it makes you stronger if you evaluate and you're not afraid of learning. we are not afraid of learning as an organization. we are not afraid of learning as individuals. we can all get better and that is what we talk about. it means all of us have to reach for a higher level. that is what we are going to do. charlie: there is no doubt in your mind that the players association believes that as well? that we have to make everything better. roger: i do believe that and i do believe the players association wants that also. the best majority of our

players are outstanding young man. they do incredible things in their communities with their families. something i am incredibly proud of and that is what drives me. you might have seen thomas davis, he is our nfl man of the year. he issued a challenge to all of us. his fellow players and everyone in the nfl. let's get people the right things to talk about, let's do the right things, let's go out and make a difference. that is something i take seriously, and it was great that thomas said that, articulated that in his own words and we use that at our -- used that at our annual meeting. charlie: a pleasure to have your. roger: my pleasure to be here. ♪

♪ matt: we are live from new york and from san francisco. welcome to "bloomberg west" where we cover innovation, technology and the future of business. i'm matt miller in for emily chang. here's a check on the top headlines. japanese prime minister shinzo abe is at the white house for key meetings with president obama. the two leaders say they are committed to strengthening their alliance and signing the transpacific trade partnership