mark: howdy all. tonight on the radar, hillary's rodeo. jeb's cattle call. we will get to the good, bad and ugly of rick perry's announcement event.

but for now, here is the red, white, and blue. >> we don't have to resign ourselves to death, decay, and slow growth. we have the power to make things new again, to project america's strength again and get our economy going again. [applause] and that is exactly why today i am running for the presidency of the united states of america. [applause] mark: he flamed out in 2012 like a box of cheaply made fireworks. did this play move him forward? john: i thought that speech was pretty good. it was energetic, strong, funny at times, but i don't know whether it will be possible for him to dispel the memory of the flameout, which was more like

the towering inferno than a cheap box of fireworks. he made himself a joke for too many people. even with a speech like that, i don't know if he will make it back. mark: much better today than he might've been. he showed some of his true self. i have long said that is his biggest problem -- he doesn't show people what he is truly like. you take away the indictment he's still under, he is a potentially strong candidate. i believe that he along with mike huckabee is two of the most -- one of the two most underrated people in this field. john: you can't take those things away, unfortunately. that guy, if he did not have an indictment and 2012, introducing himself to the national republican party with that speech and his record, he would be a top-tier candidate. i don't think anybody would argue that he is one. mark: the other verbal is

fundraising. last time he was one of the biggest. john: absolutely. today, texas was big enough for two personalities. rick perry and hillary clinton. at texas southern university in houston, clinton received a leadership award and delivered a -- one of the most substantiated and politically sharp-edged's pieces -- speeches of her campaign. the topic was voting rights. here's how she described the systematic effort by republicans on voter suppression. >> what is happening is a sweeping effort to disempower and disenfranchise people of color, poor people, and young people from one end of our country to the other. [applause] john: like a sheriff around town, hillary clinton took all -- took on her potential

opponents and named names. >> in wisconsin, governor scott welker cut back early voting and signed legislation that would make it harder for college students to vote. in new jersey, governor chris christie the toad -- vetoed legislation to extend early voting. in florida, when jeb bush was governor, state authorities conducted a deeply flawed purge of voters before the presidential election in 2000. i believe we should do everything we can to make it easier for every citizen to vote. [applause] john: mark, like immigration, is this a winning issue for hillary clinton? mark: today is the second best day of her campaign so far. this is something she believes in. it not only inspires the democratic base, but the media is highly sympathetic to the democratic point of view on this

issue, in terms of a la access and integrity. -- ballot access and integrity. i think she spoke in a full throated way. john: she is in the right here on the merits. we should all want maximum voter participation in america. more early voting, automatic voter registration, these are things that a lot of countries around the world do not even consider controversial. we do not have a big problem with voter cron -- voter fraud. as you pointed out, she does believe in this issue. it does stir up the base. she needs that base. she needs the coalition. i think this is a win-win for her, politically and substantially. mark: democrats have great lawyers. the courts have been sympathetic. republicans need to speak on these issues. they seem like they're trying to keep people from voting sometimes.

hillary clinton is making her first campaign appearance in new york on june 13, saturday. we learned that the following monday, jeb bush will announce his campaign on june 15. like most house in western movies -- like most towns in western movies, that made june weekend big enough for the both of them. when marco rubio announced, it worked for him come even though some people thought he was making a mistake. will jeb bush's attempts to steal thunder that weekend work? mark: it all depends on the quality of the speech. john: it's a monday, a new week the media is ready for the speech. everybody is waiting for his formal entry to the race. the stakes are very high. the bar he has to clear is high. if he clears it, he will have the week to himself in terms of reaction to the speech. mark: as john mcglothlin would say, you have lurched uncontrollably into the truth.

if he pulls this off it he gives a great stash if he gives a great speech, i think it is a fantastic idea for him. if she gives a great speech and he doesn't, he's in a bad place. right now, there is a lot of buzz out there that marco rubio is now the man to beat, and the floridian to beat. this is jeb bush's opportunity to go head-to-head with hillary clinton as rubio did. if he succeeds, great. if he fails, problem. john: he's doing it at miami-dade college. there are a ton of immigrants there. he's doubling down in some ways on his pro-immigration message. i think that's a strong place for him to be. it shows what he believes. it is a good general election message. but he is not delivering prepared speeches all that well. that is the pitfall. he could fall on his face.

mark: in our latest iowa paul -- iowa poll with the des moines register, we asked publicans and democrats what the candidates should do when they visited the hawkeye state. here are the results. the top answer, take questions from voters. after that, take questions from reporters. mark, if you were a candidate, would you change your behavior-based on what i once told us? mark: the two things low on this list that i would do, i would go to the state fair and eat a pork tenderloin sandwich. the voter question is key. over 90% of people in both parties want voter questions. there are a few people out there who\ are taking a lot of -- you are taking a lot of questions from voters when they do events. hillary clinton is not doing that. i think they are smart to go out there and show you can take it.

that is what iowa and new hampshire are all about. john: i agree with that. in a split field, you could win this caucus with north of 20%. if you add up those percentages at the bottom of the list, the tenderloin eaters, the fairgoers, you could spend your time doing that, eat pork chops on a stick, you would be in a good place in iowa. mark: of course. the other thing on that list are questions from the media. hillary clinton has not gone on the record in terms of an extended interview. those iowa voters and new hampshire voters -- you have seen that in the culture there -- not because they are selfish or want to be catered to, but because they understand the role they play in the process. i hope all the candidates look at that poll and recognize that this is what iowa voters want. they want to hear the candidates to speak to citizens, reporters,

and editors. john: we have a poll that talks about the iowa straw poll two voters go into a straw poll matters a lot less than putting yourself accountable. i do want to challenge you to eat a pork tenderloin and all 99 counties. that is my challenge to you. mark: right, ok. thank you for that. we will reload. after the break, a multishot burst of the real rick perry. ♪

mark: here we go. an announcement speech lightning round. rick perry jousting in the ring. let's start by listening to governor perry on foreign policy. >> the world has descended into a chaos of this president's own making.

[applause] while his white house loyalists construct an alternative universe, where isis is contained that romani is merely a setback, but we are a resilient country. you think about who we are. we have been through a civil war, to buying -- two world wars, a great depression, even made it through jimmy carter. we will make it through the obama years. we will do this. [applause] john: mark, that was very tough on president obama, not surprisingly. my question to you is whether you think there was a lot of substance there or red meat anti-obama rhetoric. mark: there were not a lot of specifics on foreign policy more on domestic policy. he did not have a distinctive

hairy -- perry doctrine. most of the lines on foreign policy could've been delivered by any of the republicans running. the second part, where he talked in an optimistic way about america coming back from what republicans considered to be a disaster is two obama terms, that was the highlight for me today. he can sometimes seem apocalyptic and scary. i thought that was a good turn of phrase. john: the thing that surprised me was that he missed an opportunity to show off some of his foreign-policy knowledge. he has been studying up on foreign policy. although he seemed fluent in his one-liners, he did not really flash anything. it's a missed opportunity. mark: let's look at another excerpt. governor perry is strong on texas in his record. he argued last time and this time on the economy. >> to those forgotten americans drowning in personal debt,

working harder for wages that don't keep up with the rising cost of living, i came here today to say that i hear you. to the one in five children and families on food stamps, one in seven americans living in poverty, one in 10 workers unemployed, underemployed, or have just given up hope in finding a job, i hear you. you are not forgotten. i'm running to be your president. [applause] mark: he did not distinguish himself much on foreign-policy. does he, on the economy today with his rhetoric? john: the texas record is quite strong. the job creation record is strong. the main thing about that soundbite, it was incredibly distracting how sweaty he was. if i were him, i would be

looking to fire my events people. there is a real question that has lingered over the texas record, how he could make the argument that he could do for america what he did in texas on jobs. that has never been clear to me. i don't think he clarified it that much today. mark: let's look at an excerpt talking about the executive experience. >> this will be a show me, don't tell me election, where voters look past the rhetoric. the question of every candidate will be this -- when have you led? leadership is not a speech on the senate floor. it's not what you say. it's what you have done. [applause] mark: we will see this debate between the governor and senator's category. rick perry brought its high and hard there. he thinks the governor should be

the nominee. john: that's the one place where he's got a strong argument. it is a place where he has a strong argument. that show me, don't tell me line is a good line and the cap's relates -- and encapsulate s something important. this is the most credible argument he has to make. the longest-serving governor texas thrived. i will show you, when you're going to tell me. mark: if rick perry performs well in iowa and gets into the base, he will be more formidable on the debate stage than people realize. last time when he ran, he was overestimated. this time, people are underestimating him, and he has done well when he has been underestimated. john: there is a reason why back in 2012, when he got ready to enter the race, it turned out it was a mistake to get in given the state of his back and other health issues. there's a reason why we thought he could be the republican nominee. those reasons all still exist.

i continue to say that it will be very hard. once you become a punchline in the minds of voters, it's hard to overcome that. i do think that for republicans and certainly for democrats, some of his mistakes are still the main thing when people see him. that's hard to overcome. mark: he did pull the punches on social security, which surprised and disappointed me. but we will see. john: coming up, the guy who let's us surf on his super fancy couch when we are in los angeles. mr. hollywood himself, fred davis, after this. ♪

mark: our guest is a standby. but i mean that in a good way. republican strategist fred davis joins us from los angeles. thanks for coming back on. i want to start talking about

you, rather than the republicans. our reporting suggests that you are still in talks with three campaigns to support republicans for president. where do those talks stand? fred: the reporting is good as usual, mark. very close on the three. as you know, we were very involved in rick snyder's presidential race. but when he decided not to run we got three inquiries within 15 minutes of that announcement. we are dealing with all three, but one of them is very close. mark: do you want to tell us who that is? fred: i can't remember. sorry. i forgot. mark: we will come back to that. you have been involved in pass -- past presidential campaigns. let's talk about rick perry. what is his path back, if he has one, to get a second chance?

is there a path, and if so, what is it? fred: my gut says no, there is not a path. his speech was fine, but i looked at it as a presidential speech. i agree with john. the sweat issue. that is inexcusable. but it was a political speech. i'm looking for somebody who is just going to talk to people. i think on the republican side though she is not my client now carly fiorina is doing one of the best jobs in regards to -- as opposed to delivering a speech. john: it's clear from hillary clinton's speech on voting rights that democrats in general are going to make a big issue about this as we go forward, for reasons that have to do with substance and politics. how would you advise your party to deal with this question as a political and substantiated -- sims -- substantive matter?

fred: i would love to answer that for you, gentlemen. i did not hear hillary speech. give me a hand. and i will give you my answer. john: she wants to have a nationwide effort to expand early voting, and she wants to have universal automatic voter registration, and she's doing this, she says, because republicans are orchestrating systematically an effort to suppress the vote with voter id laws and other restrictions, and that's an issue that has that -- that has been a controversy in past campaigns and will be a bigger one this time around. fred: to me, it's a thinly failed attempt to get more democratic votes, which she needs in order to win, because she is not off to a very rousing start. i can't fathom that others don't see that. mark: fred, we talked about jeb bush.

hillary clinton will have a big speech two days before he announces running in miami. both of those dates were probably set long ago. if you're involved with the bush campaign, is this a great opportunity to announce shortly after hillary clinton will be dominating the spotlight two days earlier or is there some peril in that decision? fred: you don't have a choice. you are to take the cards you are dealt. you make it a positive. i think between those two, jeb has the most to gain. if he gets away from giving a pat speech and talks to people and shows his heart, i know him. he is a great guy. then i think he might pull that off and the contrast would be a favorable one. mark: this notion of not giving political speeches, but talking to people, is that something you have think always has been the

case, or is this more of a premium on that now? fred: i think it is new to the electorate. i'm sitting here in hollywood. some of the guys in the studio and i were talking. they say they are sick of politics. you hear that every election. you don't hear it from people as though i could do something about it, but i think that is the mood of the electorate. it is unbelievably bad now. john: carly fiorina put out an extensive financial disclosure when she ran down to the penny her financial network. obviously, financial disclosure was a big problem for mitt romney in 2012. do you think carly fiorina coming out with an extensive disclosure will put pressure on other republican candidates, in particular jeb bush, to do the same. fred: the answer is yes. but let me say this. carly -- i ran her senate race here. i am not involved in her

presidential race. she is not the mystery candidate. i think she is running an extremely strong grace. -- race. she has done everything right so far. right now, that was a smart move on her part. she is not a poor woman. i think she takes that off the table and puts the pressure on everybody else to belly up to the bar and do the same. mark: fred davis is soon to be working for a republican presidential candidate. tbd. we will have you back when you pick your presidential candidate. thanks. fred: thanks, guys. mark: we will be right back. ♪

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