mark: i'm mark halperin. john: and i'm john hailemann. mr. trump, thanks for your time and thanks for being a huge fan of our show. you yourself have the show. you are finally running for president. mr. trump: i have never done this. it has not been that easy. in some areas you do better than bobby jindal. on the show, the monopoly man.

supporters turned out with their own signs at the economist tower. it looked like an event at the megamall. a nice megamall with escalators and people hanging off the balconies into the atrium and security guards keeping the throng and check. trump is the only candidate who announced in his home and in his office which is the sky rise next to tiffany's flagship store. the donald arrived from on high listening from in this later built by angels. we waited and we waited and we waited. and then the words we all wanted to hear finally. >> ladies and gentlemen, i am officially running for president of the united states and we are going to make our country great

again. mark: trump draws a lot of haters. he has hired staff. he is a billionaire. how did he do today? john: he is a rorschach test with a funky hairdo. people who hate donald trump and there are many do not take him seriously. i thought everything that was garish and ridiculous about him was fully on display. he was going to give a short speech. he did that. he ended the speech, the music came on and then he decided to stay on. mark: we had the addendum. john: he did freeform, totally incoherent craziness for another 25 or 30 minutes. unconventional? people who love him love it. mark: is he anywhere close to becoming them -- the nominee or

the president? i think not. if he starts opening his check he is much richer at least by his claims than many people thought creative he gets on the debate stage or runs negative ads he could be part of this debate and people who think he could get in, some are unhappy. they may be and estimating him -- underestimating him. john: many people are skeptical of how much he says he is worth. even if it is 130 -- one third it is billions. he could spend a lot of it. we are going to talk later. he was quite critical of jeb bush and others. he is likely to get on the debate stage. but not the nominee. mark: next segment. john: jeb "!" bush.

it was his first hall is a candidate. some regard the state as a must win. he spoke of many things including what mitt romney might call the e-2. executive experience. mr. bush: i didn't file an amendment and call that success. i actually did things as governor and i think now it is time to stop talking about things. we got a lot of people that are rooted talking, much better than me. i wish i could speak as well as some of the people i see on tv. it is time for someone to be president to fix a few big thing so that this nation takes off. i believe we can do that. [applause] john: he did an interview which will air tonight. how solid does jeb look as the

new hampshire town hall candidate? mark: this is why i think people who are not bullish and his chances are wrong. he is a great town hall candidate and a great cultural fit and underrated as a cultural candidate. a also expect -- they also expect town halls. he will answer every question and he showed at in his town hall as an official candidate. john: i have always agreed that he is underrated. not a great speech giver but he is good in this form. the question is when he starts getting asked questions but he does not like answering how well he does, the substantive -- the substance of a problem than style. mark: voters, this is the case where the politician can say [indiscernible] new hampshire voters will hear an answer and they will be done asking because they will move onto other things. jeb bush, the format plays to

his strength and his demeanor. when they say new hampshire, iowa picks corn and new hampshire picks presidents. the cultural fit will lay very well. john: new hampshire has not been a great state for the bushes. mark: going on jimmy how -- jimmy fallon. he is promoted on what kids call "the twitter." >> nick is the first person i see. i am dressed like this because my shirt and t-shirt was totally didn't -- drenched with sweat. i am a little sloppy here. thanks for welcoming me one more time. good to see you. >> nick always wears the yankee hat in new hampshire. what can i say?

that shows a lot of style. john: does jeb look like he is trying too hard? >> anytime anyone mocks the yankees. event cool, no. john: i think they always look ridiculous when they try. he looks like he was relatively comfortable. he did not look like he was trying too hard in that video. i think it works ok for him. mark: the bush campaign along with rand paul and a few others have high hopes to do a lot of high and the scenes videos. they do not worry about the lighting. he did not brushes here. they're hoping that when people see him in that way he will enter. son of a president, did not wear attire jacket when he announced yesterday. he is comfortable in the

settings and except for the fact that you never know what will happen with the press, that is unedited except edited. john: event cool will still get into play when he gets out there with fallon. it is a house of cards is in the cardinals of st. louis. the fbi is investigating whether that hallowed baseball team hacked the houston astros computer system to steal players personnel information. if it turns out to be true this would be the first corporate espionage case in which a pro sports team hacked another teams network. we were consumed with deflategate a few months ago. on a scale of bad, evil, malign, which is those is worse? what tom brady did or this? mark: if it was done by

management as opposed to some low-level or rogue employee, worse than tom brady. as a low-level rogue, tom brady is worse. john: i'm going to pound the cardinals even worse. this is a fell franchise. they are horrible people involved in that team. i do not like the red birds. it is a great franchise. they are great. but somehow this is revealing the hidden depth of how dastardly the cardinals are. and also potentially illegal. someone could go to jail for this. mark: we will be covering this for the duration. the most amazing rings that donald trump said today. and the amazing things that jump out -- judd apatow will say to us. ♪

john: we are taking another look at donald trump making that grant, magisterial entrance. the notion of arriving at an event on an escalator is kind of absurd. john: not something normal people do. mark: where going to think about trump is a magnet for attention. the guy gets coverage them and what he does. if he has on and ask later or not. he all are -- always gets attention and is a polarizing figure. john: whether they like him or hate him they still pay attention to him. that has been the core of how he has become such a big figure. mark: elites do not like him but a lot of the masses do. john: elites do not take him seriously. mark: let's take a look at his

announcement speech. john: let's think about him as a presidential candidate and let's start as he attacks some of his now official rivals like jeb bush. mr. trump: it took bush five days to answer the question on iraq area he did not know. i looked at rubio. he was unable to answer the question. is iraq a good thing or bad thing question what he did not know. he could not answer the question. how are these people going to lead us? bush is in favor of common core. i do not see how he can get the nomination. he is in favor of common core. how the hell can you vote for this guy question like you can't do it. john: how worried are you at all? mark: hie is constantly courted which is why it when the haters dismiss them he is courted.

he has meetings with these guys. i would be worried but anyone who trumps thinks he can get attention by attacking. if he does get paid media, ooh. john: if jeb was any good he could turn this to his advantage. mark: i would be worried by the pure volume of the ads especially if he decided to go on tv soon. john: we noted donald trump has a lot of money. how much will he spend? mark: one of the things that happened that got a lot of notice is he is an -- playing up his personal wealth big-time. mr. trump: i am proud. i have done a million -- great job. over a billion dollars.

i am not doing that to brag because i am -- i do not have to. i am doing that to say that that is the kind of thinking our country needs. we need that thinking. we have the opposite thinking. we have losers. we have losers. mark: is there an advantage of saying i am so rich, a political advantage or not estimate john: . john: he wants to be known as the symbol of wealth. i'm not bragging here but i very, very rich but i am not bragging. mark: arnold schwarzenegger won people over by talking about how successful he was. his base supporters like dear it although i will say in that room and look like the cutaways people looked a little unclear about what he was doing it. john: it is so much at odds with his other populist overtone.

this is very trumpy. mr. trump: they just built a hotel in syria. are you running, are you not running? could we have your support? obama will be outplaying golf. he might be on one of my courses. i would invite him. we need a leader that wrote "the art of the deal." i will tell you a couple stories about trade. we get bergdahl, they get terrorists. i own a chunk of a building that i got from china. i am really rich. do you really think that these people are interested in yemen? ford will come back, they will all come back at mr. trump, you're not a nice person. i am.

i promise i will never be in a bicycle race. then i can tell you. here's the thing. john: it was more stream of consciousness than what we represented. mark: he went off script. john: in this studio, judd apat ow, boom. we will be right back. ♪

john: we like movies and books and jokes. he is good on twitter. judd apatow: great to be here. you are here on a big newsday. donald trump announces for president. john:ohn: you helped president obama for the correspondent's' dinner and one of those was about mr.

trump. president obama: you recognize the real problem was a lack of leadership and you did not break -- blame littlejohn or meatloaf. you fired gary busy -- busey. these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up at night. john: was that an easy target? judd apatow: john lovett, we see if we can come up with anything and trump is a worthy target. he only runs for president to promote "celebrity apprentice." i am a fan. i like the show and i like using what it takes to keep it on the air but i do not think he needs to run for president. mark: you bring a sense of skepticism. judd apatow: he is running for keep me famous.

are the people who donate money to the trump campaign or is it all his money? john: they will come to you for his super pac. judd apatow: he is so funny it is scary. when he was running for president, i saw him at townhall and he said something so cutting and funny, i thought he is almost too funny to win this election. he cannot reveal that he has those gifts. the other was stephen colbert and you write about that. john: what do you see from what do you learn from how he confronts the powerful right onset making fun of them? judd apatow: dallas and a google moment. he said he just really liked his speech and he was excited to do

his speech and right before hand, someone said, do you want to talk to the president and the president was going over his notes for his jokes and his speech and he said i do not want to talk to him. i have to be attacking his ideas. i cannot humanize them and make him another guy working on a funny speech. mark: jon stewart is leaving the stage. there has in a lot of commentary. how will things be different in our political media landscape in the context of a presidential campaign and no jon stewart western mark -- jon stewart? judd apatow: i think socially jon stewart changed a lot. a lot of the reason we have a generation of kids who think that prejudice is ridiculous, it has affected a lot of the reason why gay marriage passed quicker because it is a whole generation of people that have been taught

by people like jon stewart and "south park" that a lot of these behaviors are just ridiculous. in terms of people getting elected -- you could not have been funnier about george bush and george bush won twice. he eviscerated him and it did not seem to have an effect. mark: you have been outspoken about money and politics being a bad thing. does that apply to money from liberals in politics? judd apatow: it is ridiculous that anyone thinks that rich people care about other people. when the code others -- koch brothers give a million dollars it is not out of a great concern for the masses. everyone is forced into this game. mark: that applies as much to hollywood girls? judd apatow: hollywood liberals would be able to change the

system and i do not think conservatives would do it. john: you built a comedy empire. judd apatow: i should buy some politicians. john: you have been behind the camera. as a producer, director, as a writer. you are back on stage. has that been freaky to get back up on -- in front of people and perform and judge material in real-time? judd apatow: i like it because when you are directing you work on a project for two or three years and one day you find out if you succeeded or failed. withstand of you have fun every night aria divot goes badly you do it again the next night. it is nice to have that component to my career. there is something that is pleasure and not terror of failure. mark: do an imitation of steve martin. judd apatow: i can only do

[inaudible] john: for 10 years of my -- are ot there others? judd apatow: we all talked like that for the 1970's and 1980's. mark: how about the rambling guy? judd apatow: i used to do -- we would drive to south carolina and listen to him for 14 straight hours. mark: what is the essence of why he is so funny? judd apatow: when i was a kid i did not know. he brings me -- mark: there is something about him that is funny. john: i can remember saying, do [inaudible] john: you have a movie coming

out in a couple of weeks. judd apatow: amy schumer, she is an important voice right now. she is very political. she is like a george carlin type boys. we need more strong female voices and comedians. she has written a funny personal, raucously hilarious movie and it team out great. we are excited and lebron james is in it and we all want to see more lebron james county -- comedy. he is really funny in the movie. mark: the new book called "sick in the head" available at finer bookshops. thanks for coming in. judd apatow: thank you. mark: we will be right back. ♪

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