>> good evening and happy mardi gras. i'm bobby jindal. ♪ mark: happy seinfeld on hulu day -- in our show about nothing clinton's bizarre volunteer and first, the summer of bobby. governor bobby jindal will announce he's running for president.

>> in case it's not clear right now, i am running for president without permission from headquarters in washington dc. i am tanned, rested, and ready for this fight. he's 44 years old and took office in 2008. he was the country's first indian-american governor and louisiana's first nonwhite but he's mired in the last place in the republican race. what's the best case scenario for his candidacy? mark: everyone who knows him things on paper he is great. he needs to show a fighting spirit and show that he is different.

john: there was no clear through-line in my opinion here at nothing stood out. why you would use a phrase that's associated in most people's minds with richard nixon, i don't know. mark: a lot of people have used their announcements to rise in the polls. i don't think this will help him out. you drain yourself with some of the coverage. john: he the 13th candidate. the bar is higher and he is -- and he way underperformed. mark: we are going to listen to some extended expert -- excerpts from the speech.

ted cruz spoke at an event in d.c. today. he tried to sound like a presidential candidate who has nothing to do with the nation's capital. the secret word is "cartel." >> the only people we ever nominate are people who never take on the washington cartel. if you never have, you are not magically going to start. john: he's been getting high marks, but he doesn't appear to be catching on in the early states of polling. he and his fellow senator rand paul have had trouble reaching double digits in national polls while marco rubio has been on the rise and getting more buzz. have they hit some sort of ceiling or are they biting their time? neither.

i do not think they are biting their time intentionally nor have they hit a ceiling. i think they are stalled. they got a nice bump after there's announcements. clearly they are in the second tier. i think they both have room to grow but they are going to have to figure out a way to do that. mark: we hear reports they are raising money, but why aren't they raising the polls? i think they are both organizing more than some of their opponents. john: we know ted cruz has resulted money. that could be totally wasted. the organizational thing for ted -- four rand paul really matters. if he's organizing strongly, he

has a lot of -- speaking of polls, a new fox news national poll shows support for donald trump at 11%. behind jeb bush. a new hampshire poll showed exactly the same thing. let's look the cable news hosts take it from here reacting to that poll with a mixture of disgust, joy, and sarcasm. >> from rising. >> donald trump surges. >> he is performing surprisingly well. >> only the donald is not surprised. ask the candidate all the experts try to dismiss just surged to second place. somehow, the donald managed to take second place. >> what say you about this most shocking development that has

the political world in taters -- titters? >> its june. they have been out on the docks. john: befuddlement. they are all surprised. why? mark: he has been telling people for a long time that once people took him seriously, he would rise. he had a very well-publicized announcement. the last thing i will say, i never thought i would see a day when mr. trump and his supporters would be celebrating, we are number two. believe me, they are celebrating. john: we can't discount to the amount name recognition matters. new hampshire matters more than this national poll.

they are somewhat xenophobic. pat buchananism. not all those voters are still alive. he will find purchase with his message among some republicans in that state. mark: trump is not going to fade instantly. a former brewery stuff -- a former barista said she applied for a fellowship on hillary's campaign but then found out it was unpaid. hillary clinton should pay her interns if she is calling for higher wages for every american. are the complaints valid? john: she took this job, unpaid work on campaigns. volunteers, interns are the backbone of presidential campaigns.

there is a reason why we took those when we were young. there were other terms -- there were other forms of pay. if they lied to her in some way that would be bad. i would say the evidence of that, this woman just needs to take the job if she likes it. mark: i mostly agree. she says she still supports clinton. some reports say unpaid interns are exploited laborers. i'm not saying she should have to take the job. you can imagine, there is an argument to be made. someone who is willing to move to another state should at least have their expenses covered. john: it's the case that she called that internship indentured servitude. last summer i checked, that was forced labor. if you do it by volition, you

have no grounds for complaint in my opinion. coming up, the best and the rest from bobby jindal's campaign announcement. ♪

mark: the 44-year-old governor drew contrasts in his speech between the democratic front runner and the current president. >> this president and his apprentice in waiting, hillary clinton, are leading america down the path to destruction. the most devastating thing they tried to do is redefine the american dream. the simple fact is they are trying to turn the american dream into socialism. the folks in washington may call that the american dream. out here in america, in the real

world, we call that the european nightmare. mark: he's talking about socialism. john: it seems extreme to me. i want the authenticity from him. he is a brilliant guy. he was a prodigy. he has now decided that the way to get out of the whole he's in his to try to run to the right of everyone else. that's a hard thing to do given how conservative this field is. we have not heard ted cruz, mike huckabee, evoke socialism in their announcement speech. many republicans feel bad -- feel that, but it's not even anything we have heard from the furthest right candidate. mark: republicans who complain about media bias forget that they get very favorable coverage. he is forfeiting the opportunity

to be considered a favored candidate by the media by saying stuff like that. john: it's also just so apocalyptic. this is the greatest country in the world. many people have criticisms of hillary clinton and barack obama. to say they are about to drive the country into an apocalypse seems a little hot i'd to me. bobby jindal also targeted jeb bush. >> you've heard jeb bush's say we need to be willing to lose the primary in order to win the general election. we are going to help him do that. let me translate that. he is saying we need to hide our conservative ideals. the truth is that if we go down that road again, we will lose again. let's do something new.

let's and doors our own principles for a change. let's boldly speak the truth without fear. john: he is not the first republican in announcing the candidacy who has taken a shot at jeb bush. how effective do you think that was? mark: in terms of offering a roadmap for fighting his way into the chair, i think that was smart. he is running as eight from her, not as someone who will fight for conservative values. -- he is running as a trimmer. john" -- john: the only way to get out of the 1% or 2% is to start attacking people. jeb bush is the most likely target. mark: here is how gentle said he would be different than the other candidates. the answer is his record as his

got -- as governor. >> there are a lot of great talkers running for president already. none of them, not one can match our record of actually shrinking the size of government. we have had enough of talkers. it is time for a doer. it was the aftermath of katrina. our economy was locked in a downward spiral. our biggest city was reeling. more people had left the state that had moved in for 25 straight years. louisiana was in big trouble. we had to make big changes. we had to believe in louisiana again and that is exactly what we did. john: this is something we have heard from politicians in the past. given his record in louisiana how effective do you think that is? mark: he said without a lot of

specifics. ethics reform, which he did do. government spending cuts which he did do. that doesn't address the problems they have had. his approval rating is so low. all of these governors, this is true of him, christie walker and k-6. when they have great success, people are going to come after their records in the state. every governor has a mixed record. he will see if he can defend his. his approval rating is a problem. john: the biggest reason among many white he has such a problem with his approval rating is because the budget deficit is a huge monster all whole. republicans are unhappy with him as much as democrats. he has not been a deficit hog. he has not been able to get the state's finances in order.

the people of louisiana know that his record is problematic. i also thought that piece of rhetoric because it is so tired, was one of the examples of one of the hackneyed elements of the speech. i wanted to hear more about his biography. he does embody the american dream in many ways. you heard a little mention of his parents in the beginning and the end. but then he says he doesn't want to be considered a hyphenated american. mark: when he talks about his parents without a script, he's fantastic. the problem with a script, it's going to be a red speech and he's not going to be at his best . i think ted cruz did a really daring thing. he did his announcement be truth out a text walking around. it served him really well. i think bobby jindal probably should have taken that same risk. john: he does not always hit it

out of the park on the stump. when he's at his best, he can do pretty well. way better than he was today. this felt wooden and over practiced. so much of the language was so hackneyed. being more spontaneous could not have served him worse. mark: sometimes people ask if he is running for vice president. if he is, he didn't show what he could add to any ticket. his possibility is on the ground in iowa. john: if he starts putting out actual policies that are interesting and innovative, that could be his roots. mark: we will be right back with a special guest. ♪

john: is about the debate on the confederate flag. you have a client in mississippi who came out. he said he wants a flag to change too. how did this happen cracks -- how did this happen? the shooting crystallized things. the republican party has moved swiftly. >> i think it's one of those things that is growing old with

age. nikki haley is a young, very aggressive, and for -- and courageous republican. she hasn't been particularly impassioned about getting rid of the flag. she doesn't shy away from doing what you have to do to do the right thing. i think are going ahead and doing it and having the popularity she has just opened the door to say, as the republican party, we are going to go ahead and get rid of this. i think that's fine. having the righteous indignation that some of the people have come out with recently, i think it may be put on for the moment. you can't deny lives were taken. it brings up emotions and why not take the opportunity to do it. mark: did you not think there was some degree of expedients here that republicans needed to get off the table?

let's just fall in line so we don't have to talk about it anymore. >> people don't have jobs. why are we talking about it? schools need reforming. things the republican party can do really well economically, even emotionally. why not talk about those things? why are we wasting time on something like this. it has meaning for a small amount of people who still fight that war. at the end of the day, it is -- is it what's going to get someone a job? john: i think it has meaning for the person who went in and shot at that church. and a lot of african-americans. >> i don't deny that. it's terrible. that should bring up the issue of the underlying problems there. for political issues, from the course of an election, it is what we want to be talking about, or could we be talking about how can we get back i a job and some help? mark: usually the pendulum will

swing back a little bit. what's your instinct? is this issue now over? >> i do. i think it will. i think this is a hard one. gay marriage, life. those have moral roots. caring about the life of the human being, caring about a religious belief. where'd you put the flag in that continuum? the flag is a symbol of the old south, a symbol of where to someone go to church and say i am -- i want to keep the confederate flag because? what's the end of that sentence? i think that's a good indicator if you can't answer that question and make a pass and speech of white want it, why would it stick around? mark: can you think of a place

or a client? >> i don't try to talk my clients in or out of any position. if someone said that the position i want to take, how would you explain it? >> i would say it's more important to talk about. john: i imagine that a year from now, republicans will look back on this and wonder why they were ever arguing about the flag. >> there are very deep religious underpinnings in gay marriage. there are value underpinnings that don't fit as deeply with the flag. i don't think you have people who have been taught their entire life or who have been part of a faith their entire life that says the confederate flag can be flown over your house. i think you have people who believe deeply in a particular

set of values that will stick with them that will make it a little harder. mark: the issue of cyber security being critical. does that seem like a strong issue for republicans to be talking about politically? >> is a smart issue. if we want to be a party of smart issues, let's talk about it. i power went out last night and i have the shakes because i couldn't do anything. the fact that everything we do. john: thank you for being on the show. when we come back, our favorite seinfeld moment after this. ♪

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