tv With All Due Respect Bloomberg July 6, 2015 11:00pm-11:31pm EDT
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heidi: i am heidi. mark: and i am mark halperin and with all due respect to clinton staffers, you missed an awesome opportunity for ring around the rosie. on the show tonight, hillary's rope and christie's hope, but first the donald says nope. 883 words in our inbox before we go on the air. a future storylength comment from the donald. trump's statement simultaneously stands by what he said, but
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sounds for him uncharacteristically defensive in trying to justify his remarks. you can read the whole statement on our website. trump's a statement has become the dominant matter and republican presidential politics of late. every republican presidential candidate has been asked to comment on trump's original statement. how to respond? one school of thought says show sympathy for the man. >> i salute donald trump for focusing on the need to address illegal immigration. the washington cartel does not want to do that. he is a colorful way of speaking. that is not how i speak but i am not going to engage in the devious game of throwing rocks and attacking other republicans. i'm not going to do it. mark: so ted cruz, santorum and showing some empathy for trump and not going after him. there's another school of thought that says hit him hard. governor bush: this was a guy who was a democrat for most of the last decade.
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i don't think he represents a republican party and his views are way out of the mainstream of what republicans think. he is not a stupid guy, so i do not assume he thinks that every mexican crossing the border is a rapist. he is doing this to inflame an d incite and to draw attention which seems to be the organizing principle of his campaign. governor perry: i was offended by his remarks. he will have to defend those remarks. i never will. mark: trump wrote on twitter that jeb bush likes mexican illegals because of his wife. that tweet was later deleted. there is another way to respond in the middle third chris christie and others who have said trump is a good guy who said bad things. heidi, all of the republicans are responding in different ways. what is the best way to deal with a controversial mr. trump? heidi: the best way they hoped
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to do with him was to ignore him. ality star with funny hair that they had hoped to ignore. they can't ignore him. especially when he is making comments that many consider inflammatory. mark: and bad for the party. no way to ignore donald trump. that is why he claims he is never wrong. he is a different breed of people are going to talk about him and if he says controversial things, as long as he is on the stage, they will have to answer. heidi: they took too long to respond. they will have to take this as a lesson. they took 12 days to respond to these comments. in the future they are going to have to be on it. they will have to do the research. mark: mitt romney, who took trump's endorsement in a high-profile way a couple years ago, he also criticized trump. i want someone to hit him harder and say he does not belong in this race. trump's tendency is to go after people who go after him. at some point there will be a face-off with donald trump. it will be quite a moment.
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heidi: from gotham to gorham new hampshire where hillary clinton marched in the fourth of july parade and her supporters were surrounded by ropes like common bovine creatures. she tried to get back on the presto good side. mark, good idea, bad idea? mark: it was purely logistical. there was a parade. they did not want the press preset so they would miss the whole parade. they did not have a truck to ride with her. they were ruining the parade by running around and this was a way to keep them contained in moving forward. it looks horrible, but it was purely logistical. i think the clinton campaign is getting a bum rap. heidi: given the history, they had to see this coming. it was stupid to do this especially given the clinton administration and hillary clinton's own reputation with the press as being paranoid and having this brass knuckles approach to dealing with the media -- mark: it is a self the filling
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-- self-fulfilling prophecy to say because she has this relationship with the press everything feeds into this image. they did this for logistical purposes. the press forms all over her. there are security concerns. think about the parade. if they have let the press go wherever they wanted to go, we are penned in all the time. heidi: they will have to be more sensitive. it's like following them into the bathroom. mark: i agree. i agree. i think the motive was to have the event not be ruined. and they pay a price for who she is. heidi: and certainly, there is the accessibility and other elements they have been hit on for elements of the media relationship. mark: we will she what's he says. chris christie was on fox news
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twice and did morning joe on msnbc. he went out of his way to name check some rivals in a negative way, including rand paul and ted cruz, and appeared to take a veiled shot at scott walker. governor christie: i am a guy who has actually dealt with a democratic legislature and got things done. it is much more likely than if you are republican governor where they republican legislature were used in things down the hall, they stamp it and send it back. with the american people need to know that senator paul's conduct has made them weaker and more vulnerable to attack. that is why what rand paul has done to make them weaker and more vulnerable. and for him to take money off of it? it is disgraceful. i find it ironic number right, that ted cruz is giving lectures on republican violence. all due respect, i do not need to be lectured by ted cruz. mark: you have the best republican brawler calling out his rivals. is this smart for him to start going after people by name pretty much before anyone else?
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heidi: it's not only smart. it's his only option. we are talking about a guy who went from being a prohibitive front-runner to near the bottom of the pack. so much so he may not qualify for the debate. what does he do to draw attention to himself? he starts throwing punches in every derek should -- every direction. not just at jeb, another prohibitive front runner, but also ted cruz. it is also his style, being scrappy. a fighter. it plays into that as well. mark: the other smart thing, he is going after people on things that he believes about. he is saying things with passion. these are not gratuitous shots. he actually has differences with these guys and he is defending himself. cruz has criticized people for criticizing trump, and christy points out that cruz has his own problem going after republicans. i think he is speaking for the the heart and when chris christie speaks from the heart
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mark: the deadline on the iran nuclear talks is approaching. our colleague in vienna is here to talk. foreign correspondent indira lakshmanan is here. give us the latest. indira: we have the foreign ministers from the six major powers negotiating into the night with a run. -- negotiating into the night with iran. after dinner they are expecting to negotiate until 3:00 a.m. or longer. this is not a done deal by any stretch of the imagination. john kerry has said very strongly this could go either way. if it fails, we are in unknown territory. no foreign ministers here are talking about another extension.
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if you want to know what the major sticking points are, on the iranian side, they want sanctions relief to come faster and on the american side, they want to delay the listing of a u.n. arms embargo and want to make sure they get broad access for u.s. atomic inspectors to make sure iran never cheats over the life of the deal. if they get the deal, what happens? in washington, it will be an incredibly hard left for them to sell this deal in congress. their work is not done, even if they end up getting this deal tomorrow night. mark: thanks. joining us now , the president of the foreign relations. richard ross. richard, thank you for coming in. skeptics, people are open to supporting it, but skeptical. some people on capitol hill, if you are a skeptic, based what has come out of it, what are you worried about? what are you looking at? what are one or two things that say this has to come through or
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i cannot support this? richard: probably the biggest question for skeptics is the question of inspections. what kind of access to what kind of site? a little bit of concern for too much sanctions relief too soon. it takes the pressure off iran. that is the principal concern for most skeptics. my own concern is less that. i am more concerned about what happens if iran complies? 10 years from now, they can do whatever they want? centrifuges, 15 years with iranian. the cost of that, we will face a daily problem with many of its neighbors. managing this will become a permanent challenge to american foreign-policy. heidi: if the u.s. feels the deal is not quite there, couldn't face pressure from its negotiating partners to sign on and then what happens? richard: sure, if things break down, the most important thing whether you like the deal or not you do not want the breakdown to be perceived as the united states is moving the goalposts. it's one thing if the iranian government says you cannot have
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inspections that reasonable people would find essential. inspection is not the problem. it is who is widely seen failure to be. it seems to be on as if the sanctions unravel. mark: does iran have a strong hand at this point in the negotiation? richard: sure. mark: what is the source of strength for them? richard: you have china and russia that are relatively sympathetic. you have a united states government that clearly does not want things to fail. do not want to have to face military force. each side is in some ways limited by what it does not want. what keeps iran in the deal is desire and need, particularly president rouhani and the need for sanctions relief with the economic bonus that will provide to the government. mark: let's would to the other big story of the day, greece. nobody knows what is going to happen. let's say worst-case, greece leaves the euro and the european union. what are the implications if that happens? richard: in some ways, probably less than people think.
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it would highlight some of the structural problems that europe got ahead of itself politically and the economics was sliding. the germans and others might be cited terry. -- might be salutary. the real problem is economics. whether this weakens the fabric not just europe, but the world , economy. heidi: do you think this referendum vote could have politics at play in terms of the greeks just wanting a better bailout deal? richard: 100%. i do not know the word for chicken in greek, but that is what this is. the government saying, it's not just us. it is the greek people. if they had had a referendum saying, do you want to stay in the euro? 60% of the people would have said yes. instead you had this convoluted thing about supporting austerity. of course you got a no vote. this was simply built to strengthen their bargaining
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position. they are still hoping the germans and the europeans will blink. i'm not sure it's going to happen. the real problem over the next couple of days with the banks closed, how do you keep people alive? the greek government will have to issue some kind of new script, almost a new drachma, where europe says we will give you some money to tide you over for a couple days. that is it. that is where we are. mark: merkel is a huge player here. outside of greece and merkel who are the huge players that will define how this goes forward? richard: it's not the united states, interestingly enough. the imf, christine lagarde has a role. the french government probably after the german government. the odd thing about the french government one of the reasons the german government is hanging so tough is it is worrying about southern europe. france is at the end of that line. the most important country ultimately in southern europe after italy is france.
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that is what the germans are worried about. mark: in the end, does this matter? does it matter a lot, a little? richard: probably less than people think. i would be worried about the chinese economy. the stock market there is down 30% over the last couple of days. no, i don't think this is -- when we are done with the year i do not think this will be the central story by any means. heidi: do you think u.s. deficit hawks, understanding the situations are very different, but given the dialogue going on in the u.s., they will draw parallels, any lessons here? richard: alas not. when you think about what we have our deficit going up, more than anything else, it is entitlements. they are still off the board. the sequester deals with a lot of things. unfortunately it does not deal with entitlements. when rates go up, that will exacerbate our problem with the deficit and the debt.
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but at the moment, that is in the too difficult to talk about box in american politics which is too bad. sometime during the next presidency, some of these issues as the baby boomers begin to retire and their health care needs go up, probably around 2020, 2021, these issues will really come to the fore. mark: we have to do the wraparound. iran deal, yes or no? richard: yes. mark: wow. and greece stays in? yes or no? richard: in the long run, yes. mark: all right, thank you very much, richard haass. we will be right back with romney. ♪
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>> it was a wonderful experience. it was a huge privilege to be able to do that. it did not mean it was easy the whole time. there were high points and low points. it was challenging. you take things more personally as family of the candidate than as the candidate. yeah, it was a fantastic experience. mark: we often talk about when someone runs a second time, they are a better candidate. your dad was a better candidate the second time. what was easier for the family the second time? tagg: i don't know. i remember people came and talked to us and said we are going to go through the freak show. the second time through, you knew from the start what it was going to be and you are geared up for it. mark: tim: nothing you learn from the first time that were able to apply the second time? tim: you are not as letdown -- tagg: you were not as letdown.
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you have a thicker skin. mark: some of them have kids that are a little older. some are younger than you, but still adults. what kind of advice would you give to those families those who , are teenagers and above. tagg: i have spoken to a few of them. it is really hard until you have gone through it yourself to understand, but my advice is enjoy it. be yourself, don't be afraid to speak out when you have an opinion. don't let the consultants or the experts shame you into being quiet, and try to stand up for your parent, because you know them better than anyone else does. mark: consultants really do that? tagg: [laughter] sometimes. not to my dad, but some have. one of the most heartening things i have seen in the whole cycle so far, ted cruz's little girls, they were concerned how they would react to being in the press situation. they came out on the stage and
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were waving and they seemed pretty into it. both ted cruz and his wife thought it was cool. tagg: you can get used to anything. it becomes the new normal. i think they will be fine. mark: your data stay neutral in the race. are you planning to do the same thing? tagg: i am. i plan to wholeheartedly support whoever the republican candidate is and help them win back the white house. mark: you are in business now. there has been talk of you running for public office here or in massachusetts. is that something you are open to? tagg: no. [laughter] i ruled that out. for a long time i thought i might, but watching the process i do not want to put my kids through it. i am ruling out for the next 15 years at least. i let my kids grow up. mark: how old will you be? tagg: i will be 60. [laughter] mark: plenty of time to run. i do want to overanalyze and make you think of this in a
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critical way, but you are interested in public service but i think what you're saying is you do not want to put your kids to the toughness of it. isn't that a little discouraging for the country that someone who has seen it up close and personal is saying, i don't want my kids to go through what i went through? tim: you know, it -- tagg: you know, it is. i have worried about this for a while. there are a lot of good people i would love to see run for office and they do not want to do it. i do not know what the answer is. it's certainly a problem. mark: your grandfather served in public office. your dad did. is the fondly business -- is the family business of politics going to die with your generation? tagg: i'm a -- my brother, josh. i'm encouraging him to run for governor mark: of which state? tagg: utah. mark: do you think he would require a lot of convincing? tagg: i don't think so. [laughter] mark: what would be a good slogan for his campaign? tagg: i am tagg's younger brother. [laughter] mark: that's big in utah. tagg: yeah. mark: you have seen now, through
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all the scrutiny and campaigns, the bushes and clinton's and obama's have been successful at shielding their daughters from scrutiny. is there a lesson from that? they said at the white house we are not going to put our friends -- our kids front and center. please don't scrutinize them. can a candidate say that? my kids are not going to campaign. we would ask that you not scrutinize them? tagg: i think so. my daughter was on the campaign trail last time. she stayed off camera and we asked the cameras to stay off of her. mark: and it worked. tagg: it worked. if the candidate makes it a priority, it will work. mark: tagg romney, thank you very much. so, tagg romney and his brothers have become professional offspring of a presidential candidate. scott walker's sons and his wife seem to suggest in the "washington post" maybe more
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inclined toward same-sex marriage than scott walker is for sure. how big a deal in this field with a lot of younger kids do you think this issue is going to be, spouses or kids being different than issues on their candidate's relative? heidi: i don't think it is a big deal and i don't think it hurts or some prizes anyone that members of families have different opinions. who does not have a family member with a different opinion? in some ways that make the candidate even more relatable, and on this specific issue, it's not going to hurt scott walker on evangelicals. it may even help them with younger voters if he should make it to a general election. mark: i think you are right, but you do see some conservatives reacting to the "washington post" story and saying, wait a minute, if scott walker is getting all of this pressure at home, right after he gave the interview and did not talk about same-sex marriage in a way some conservatives seized on. it depends on how you handle this. you saw laura bush taking different positions than her husband on a few issues, but in
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this nomination fight where there is so much pressure, so much competition, i think if you handle it wrong it can be a big problem, particularly with these young kids that are not experienced with national politics. heidi: it is the ebb and flow the campaign. at the end of the day, scott walker proposition is what it is and conservatives may be watching this closely, but if he becomes the candidate for the party i think it will all come out in the wash. mark: if he says my views are my views, and like you said, who agrees with their family on everything? all right, we will be right ♪
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