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great deal of ahead of a key bundestag vote on wednesday. greece owes the ecb 3.2 billion euros this week. that's what we are watching today. european markets just opening. futures indicating we will see stocks open today, euro stoxx futures up by about 0.7%. ftse futures up about 0.4%. one week of the after two weeks of gains. what is happening today? caroline is at the touchscreen. caroline: we are expecting a rebound. we saw a 2.7% selloff in the stoxx last week. with china ringing in everyone's ears, we saw the dollar surged and we saw a bit of a comes turn about the exporters getting hit. today, a bit more tentative buying. a little more appetite for risk as we see a bit of a stabilization in china.
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we see the pboc once again holding steady, keeping that yuan at a steady level. yuanconomists saying, the can rise, it can fall, and we will combat both moves should we need to. the dax up 0.5%. big vote on wednesday. angela merkel trying to rearrange her schedule to get this vote through, talking potential debt relief for greece. trying to woo the imf to get on board with the third bailout being offered to greece. that third payment comes on august 20. we are higher across the board looking at the eurozone when it comes to equities. the euro is down against the dollar. we've got interesting data coming out of the u.s. later today. we got manufacturing, inflation, we also get fed president william, voting member, speaking on his view of whether has what
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happened in asia changed the federal reserve? still about 50-50 think we will get the go-ahead in september. euro still slightly lower against the dollar. let's have a little look at how the chinese renminbi is doing. stability back on course. we are seeing it completely flat today. that giving a little bit of these to some of the markets in asia. chinese stocks fell, some feeling they will pull back on support for the stock market. japan, economic data not looking too rosie. does that mean there is more stimulus to come? you will be going to juliette saly to look at that. i want to focus on one complete asset, the oil market, down by 1%. oil is still getting hit. the glut is still in everyone's mind. if you are looking at the short positions, they climbed to the
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highest level since march. let's have a few of the stocks that are slightly exposed to oil. bmw, airbus. bmw is off 1.8%. barclays putting out a statement saying, go over weight the stock. far too much already priced in in terms of china. bmw was beaten up last week. saying it is about 30% off its peak in the year. barclays going over weight, saying the discount is now priced in. even if you get zero earnings from china in bmw, the share price is still worth 91 euros per share, higher than this. even if china is zero. they feel the market got overzealous at the selling of bmw. airbus, we get some news out of airbus. 1.6%. order, 250 coming
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from india. even though we saw 9% growth in sales and profit, bovis homes getting a bit of a selloff. mark: let's go to juliette saly in hong kong for a look at markets in asia. juliette: good morning, mark. it is the end of the trading day here in asia. we are just seeing the close of the shanghai composite and hang seng. a bit of a mixed picture. mainland china stocks close higher, up around 0.75%. a lot of other chinese stocks are in the red. 0.6%.ng seng closing down the china enterprise index at any month low. meaning a lotan of foreign investors are pulling their money out. the weaker ringgit weighing on the malaysian stock market. the worst performer in the region. througheakness coming
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in india, singapore, the philippines, and have korea. the nikkei off around 0.5%. just before i go, i will quickly show you how the malaysian ringgit is faring. this has been the other major currencies story. the malaysian ringgit holding at 4.11. that is the lowest level since 1998. we are seeing it at those 17-year lows. mark: japan growth stumbling after two consecutive orders of growth. gdp dropping 1.6%. the announcement came a week after its biggest trading partner, china, drastically devalued its currency. let's get out to tokyo for more. how does this devaluation of the yuan add to japan's woes? does.certainly i think it is very much a recognition from china's side
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that there's weakness in that economy. with the importance of china to japan as an export market, that is very harmful to japan. the figures today, the gdp numbers are a reality check for japan. having had a recession last year, took roll back just for two quarters and then start sliding again is that news. mark: some commentators calling for fresh stimulus measures. what does this mean for the boj? it certainly means a lot more pressure on the boj. up until this point, the governor has been very clear in saying he doesn't see stimulus coming immediately. the bank is looking past the current weakness, expecting things to get better. private economists are seeing as soon as october the possibility of stimulus. we will be looking closely at data between now and october to see what that means for the boj. a lot of attention will come on
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any gains in wages and consumer spending. they have been the weakest points for japan. those are things people will look to very closely to see whether the the oj does need to increase stimulus or not. mark: brad miller in tokyo. thanks for joining us today. more, we are joined by antonin. thanks for joining us today. is it time for japan once again to press on the monetary or fiscal stimulus? >> probably not just yet. we still expect ongoing liquidity in the future if needed. with liftoff in september in the u.s., with what is happening in china, q1 gdp revised up, we need to wait a bit more. mark: can japan whether this devaluation in the yuan, with china being its biggest trading partner? >> for now, yes, probably.
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if the weakness was more pronounced in china, it would probably bring a response from china. a bit early to say. it does act as a potential put to the market. if japan was too week, the argument for more easing would be very valid. it is wait and see for now. mark: where is abenomics, antonin? shinzo of a has been focusing on restarting nuclear activity and worrying about the defense of the rail. where is abenomics? arrow is being waited for. more reforms would be obviously very healthy for the japanese market. we have seen some of the changes, especially at the index intensity ong more corporate governance, buybacks, dividends, shareholder-friendly actions.
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we think that is panning out. japan equities a buy? >> it is beating many of the markets. it is beating dollars as well. if you look at europe, it has been primarily an fx story. in dollar terms, europe is not performing that well. it is not super stellar. if you look at japan, the story has been more about earnings delivery. in euroei is up 17% terms and 14% in dollar terms. mark: that's a more interesting story. we are going to come back in just a second. a quick check on how european equity markets have opened. they opened this week higher. concerns from china dissipating.
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we will ask antonin more about that in just a second. that is the equity situation. have a look at what is happening to the euro against the dollar. best week since april. the yield on the german 10-year bond down a couple basis points. is there still a flight to the haven that is core european debt markets? that is what is happening to the dollar against the ringgit. boostissues continue to the dollar, pulled the malaysian ringgit lower. it is in its lowest level since the backend of the 1990's. crude oil, lowest level since 2009. 1.3% lower today. 41 .94. house low does the oil go? antonin stays us. coming up on the show, as the yuan stabilizes, china's devaluation continuing to impact
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chancellor of germany angela merkel is confident the international monetary fund will join greece's third bailout. she signaled willingness to consider debt relief in some form, but not a haircut. >> with regards of extension of maturities, the selling of the interest rates we have, we have room for more. just like we had in previous times, we did extend maturities. , buts always possible there's also a core statement that the eurozone can't allow another haircut. mark: merkel's comments come as the bundestag lower house prepares to vote on the bailout on wednesday. china's premier has visited the scene of last week's tianjuin explosion. the number of people killed in the blast has risen to 114. the port remains closed and businesses have been severely
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disrupted. japan's economy contracted last quarter as consumers and businesses cut spending and exports tumbled. 1.6% between january and march, ending two quarters of growth. china may be slower than official data revealed. according to a bloomberg survey, the economy expanded 6.3% in the first half. that compares to the official figure of 7%. for more, we are joined by bloomberg's asia economics correspondent. how do we explain this discrepancy? you know, the chinese administration sets a growth target every year as a hangover from soviet era style planning. this year it is 7%. even though china's economy has been slowing quite sharply.
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second-quarter growth came in at 7%. economists are donating the veracity, whether it is capturing real activity in the economy. what they point to our indicators such as electricity consumption as a gauge of weakening demand. they say, look at imports and look at some other indicators that are capturing a better sense of how the real economy is going, rather than the headline gdp number that the government put out, which some people say is overinflated. mark: what is holding things back? obviously, we have a cyclical slowdown here in china, like other parts of the world. exports are struggling here. that is not all because of the exchange rate. it is because of weak external demand in key markets as well. they have cyclical issues, but they have structural problems too. they have a slowing population growth.
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they have an aging population. they need to do more to boost productivity within the economy itself. these are all areas that require hard political reforms if china is to get itself back on track to meet these ambitious growth targets. mark: what about the yuan? it was the big story globally last week. will we see more weakness in the currency to help engender growth ? i suppose, mark, they will have to let it weaken by more than they have so far. 3% depreciation last week isn't considered a game changer by economists. they say you have to go much more, maybe 10%, maybe higher. i think the pboc has sent a message that it is not going to the open-ended depreciation. we just have to wait and see how the regime does move.
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i would say to you what i said earlier. it is not all about the weak currency. a lot of the problems for exports are weak external demand and a week yuan will not fix that. mark: thanks, we will talk to you later. the yuan stabilizing, the fallout from china continuing to hit emerging economies. malaysia's ringgit continues its slide further into its weakest level against the dollar since 1998. the surprise move on the people's bank of china has put investors minds back on some of those economies which morgan stanley's call the fragile five. elliott has been following the story. should we really be worrying about the so-called troubled 10? fragile five was coined in 2013 by morgan stanley. the country whose currencies were most vulnerable to depreciation because of the need
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for them to finance their current account deficit. were therencies brazilian real, the turkish lira, the south african rand, the indian rupee, and the indonesian rupiah. the trouble 10 are on your screen. we are talking about countries that are exposed to china because of their trading relationships and potentially would suffer the biggest devaluation in response to what has been going on in china themselves. top of the list, only by virtue of it beginning with a b is the brazilian real. there are similarities with the malaysian ringgit. china is its number one trading partner. china is the number one destination for its exports. it is also a big commodity exporter. when you think about not only that but goldman sachs saying that iron ore prices will decline over the next 18 months, there isn't really much cause for optimism for the brazilian
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real. it is worth noting that when they first coined the fragile five in 2013, four of those five currencies went on to be the worst are forming currencies since that phrase was coined. mark: you touch on the real. againstve been protests president rousseff over the weekend. what is going on? elliott: i don't think it is related to currency depreciation, but there is a lot for brazilians to the frustrated about. when you've got half a million people on the streets, they are concerned. inflation is running at 9%. interest rates are rising to try to curb that inflation. the thing that has annoyed brazilians the most is this massive corruption scandal. multibillion dollar scandal related to the state oil company, petrobras. there are 30 sitting politicians under investigation. president rousseff not among
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them, but she was head of petrobras at the time that some of these corruption allegations took place. she is not herself under investigation. they are on the streets to protest not just economic mismanagement, but against the president. two thirds of brazilians want to see her impeached. mark: thanks a lot. elliott there talking about the fragile five, which has evolved to the troubled 10. antonin is here. troubled, i'm sure the 10 will become something even bigger. what arethe question, the long-term effects from last week's evaluation? antonin: to zoom in on the actual devaluation, the move so far is pretty benign. the big question -- it is going to be quick to jump to conclusions. is it the start of a huge
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devaluation? the flip side of the coin was that the potential inclusion of november with the imf and the renminbi may be part of the action taken by china to make this entry much easier. the next few weeks will be interesting. today already feels better than a week ago. the fact that the yuan was overvalued because it was pegged to the dollar, and given the strength of the dollar, was no surprise. the timing was extremely surprising last week. in terms of other currencies, the fragile five, the current account deficit countries, it has been well flag. since the taper can from a year ago, a lot of these countries have done work to try to get to a situation where a liftoff in the u.s. whatnot end up with
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significant issues for them. i do think what is complicated is when you start doubling up issues. if you are brazil, you not only have a current account deficit, but you have a political situation. mark: as you do in turkey. another record low today. antonin: the same way russia, the weakness is doubling up on it. if you look at countries which have not one issue, but two or three, from a price action point of view, that should -- mark: malaysia on other great example as well. antonin: indonesia as well. is it a cleaner trade to focus on areas of the world where there is momentum, where there is some gdp growth, pmi growth, i'm talking about europe -- mark: you prefer europe to the u.s.? antonin: we prefer europe to the u.s., we prefer japan to the u.s. [indiscernible] were you pull off last
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week by friday's gdp number, which was still showing growth in the eurozone, but not as much as economists hoped, and the three main economies didn't grow as much as hoped either? antonin: no. we've seen a supportive ecb and a supportive draghi. if it is not as good as hoped, it means it is liquidity for longer. mark: so qe equals equity gains? antonin: yes. mark: does that apply for china? they've implemented their own type of qe. should the model be, don't fight the pboc? i stole that. that is yours. antonin: china is different. of central bank balance sheet sizes to assets is consistent across the globe. more liquidity equals higher prices.
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only one which doesn't completely fit the bill. it is very cheap. the authorities are continuing to help. whether it was a bit of devaluation or additional measures, we do think that china is so cheap, it is interesting. china necessarily look at versus the rest of the world? it is still a hard situation to look at. it is still very volatile. mark: and fed rates? when is it going to be? antonin: who knows, september, december. unlikely the chinese devaluation will dramatically change the timing. -- now, we stick to december we stick to september. mark: if it is not september, that will have a big effect. antonin: the bigger question i have on liftoff is, yes, we've
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had a much stronger dollar, it is continuing to strengthen versus other currencies. once you get liftoff, that's quite likely. mark: great to chat to you, antonin. still to come, we talk gold. the commodity's biggest rally since june after china devalued the yuan. we will talk gold and the latest from the liners after the break. have a look at what is happening across markets. you can always follow me on twitter as well. equity forceshe are looking today. ftse up 0.25%. dax up 1.1%. declines, stocks in europe have open higher today.
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mark: welcome back to bloomberg news. i am mark barton. 30 minutes into the trading. let's see how things are shaping up so far. stocks rising after four weeks. more gains for the ftse. bigger gains in germany and france today. let's check on some of the other possible that are moving. euros biggest weekly game last week. kerfuffle from the you want evaluation. today isurrency move the continuing plunge and the toasian -- since crude oil
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its lowest since 2000. let's get to our top stories. caroline, what are you watching? caroline: resurgence of the m&a coming back into our minds. more than 6%. this is a big industrial deal. general electric buying out. we understand we could be close to eu approval for the deal that is being reported by other sources. not to turbine element be taken on by general electric. they have concerns about cross competition. if they sell off the gas turbine assets to an italian rival -- the company buying up those assets and likely to be the preferred buyer. overall, we are getting there. alstom general electric deal
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tied up. nicely largely because of its line. sales beating expectation. up to 60%. that is pretty good considering the top comparison, compared to this time last year. 12% growth. shares rise ashe well. .n the downside, the tonk lower it is doubt -- it is about commodities. down 1%.would group and report said they could be slashing jobs -- 4000 jobs over the next six to eight months. we have numbers coming from john would group. the instinct fact is it is still the oil selloff.
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one of the many people betting against the oil price. that seeing a shorting of particular oiling price -- that tickler price. you're seeing plenty of other companies down. mark: shanties quarter million profit shopping. reduced its also for your forecast. shares up. kevin crowley. kevin, good morning. where is this? the chief executive of anglo gold see this going? kevin: he sees it trading in a $1050.tween he is cost that she is cost to say this will be volatile.
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-- he is cautious to say this will be volatile. going down to $1000 an ounce. the company does have plans to mitigate the impact. isthe moment, the gold price really hurting the world's largest gold miner right now. mark: how of the company continue to deal with low gold prices? it has a number of strategies. mindscapital consuming that it is looking to get partners to share those capital costs. it is cutting spending across the globe. it says as the gold price declines, as the u.s. raises interest rates, that should to weaken which
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helps to provide a natural cushion for the low gold prices. mark: the south african wage negotiations. will there be a strike? kevin: at the moment negotiations are in deadlock. the gold producers have made their final offer a couple of weeks ago. that is been turned down by unions. currently about to start mediation talks. talk of strikes is probably premature. it is looming large on the horizon. in platinum last year there was a five month strike which was damaging to the industry. gold companies will be looking to avoid a repeat. mark: kevin, thanks a lot.
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kevin crowley there. kirin.t guest -- welcome will we avoid a strike in south africa. >> and all balance, i would say strike, butl have a it will be a short one. the expectations the unions have ,laced on the wage negotiations companies cannot afford that. a lot of the south african operations -- to accommodate such a hike in wages which is one of the largest would take a lot of those operations into a situation. dropping gold, high depreciation, how does it look to its threats? competition?
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peers? kieron: if you take out some parts of the statement, the company is addressing a lot of the issues the shareholders wanted to address, high-cost operations. there is a rationalization program going on. --reholders are looking at they are seeing a low gold price environment. this locale thinking price will not remain. youou're not thinking -- are thinking this low gold price environment will not remain. john paul said it has cut his gold holdings. everything seems to be pointing
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to gold staying as it is. you're looking in the other direction. why is that? ieron: we have been negative for over four years. short on the positions. everyone has -- and one that has , it is negative. if your kicking this will supply and reducing it on a net balance , you're going to see increased tension. premiums inncreased the largest consuming nations in the world, you're going to see increasing reliance. the other thing we're looking at is interest rates moving to the right. that is something the market is not anticipating. -- ifterest rate cycle the interest rate cycle does not , the onlyn september
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reaction you're good to see in gold is a negative one. we see a falling supply increasing demand. you actually have got producers looking at their production profile and saying where do i make money at this level? mark: give us a price forecast. 1117 today. what are the price we are thinking of next year? kieron: the average now is 11.90. we think there is an argument to start over whether or not
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everyone should be sure. mark: exactly. the base metals index, lowest and it has 2009 fallen seven consecutive weeks. kind of like china did last week. is it all bearish? ieron: you have to look at the supply and demand metrics. we have seen china increase about 20% this year. in an oversupplied market. over 90% of production seems to be profitable. the more active supply constraints are going to come large- you see some measures by the government's and producers. from the philippines and indonesia. in these metals we have seen
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price spikes when prices tend to fall down below the cost of production. we don't discount the fact that these two metals could see a price spike. supply cuts coming out of the industry may be something that could stabilize. mark: favorite commodity? think there will be a hockey stick return to pricing. also maybe a left field, uranium. mark: why is that? ieron: an abundance of supply coming out of the industry. you'll get that type list of demand. you. thank after the break, merkel backs
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ending two quarters of growth. 1.8% drop. a study indicates that china's economy is growing's -- is going more slowly than data suggests. the economy expanded by 6.3% for the first half, compared to the official -- the officially reported 7%. visit to last week seen. the explosion. the number of people killed 214, according to the media agency. china's airports remain closed. businesses have been disrupted. bailout is expected to -- to the above this time go before the bundestag. merkel is considering debt
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relief to ensure the imf will remain patient in the bailout. on the story.s welcome back from new york. what did we hear from merkel over the weekend? we heard-- on an optimistic merkel. the idea that the imf will be a part of a bailout program. the imf has not said anything. they indicated that there needs to be that relief before they do that. merkel in her interview rolled out a debt reduction. she opened up an idea. >> with regards to extension of -- we have room. just like we had in previous times, we did extend maturities. we move forward the rates.
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it is always possible to do something else. there is a clear statement of the eurozone cannot allow another haircut. merkel noted the seachange. insistedme time, she she could not guarantee anything. she did not know if this third bailout package, if it passes, but six billion -- 26 billion will get shipped in the first package. she has her finance minister, he is for the deal. aret of german newspapers reporting it is a part of a debt relief. the average majority would be a 60 year majority -- the average maturity would be a 60 year maturity. mark? mark: if i live another six years, that will be a miracle.
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i will see you later. good to see him back. rose.half revenue and record level -- a record number of -- the chief executive spoke to bloomberg. he gave his view on how the housing market will handle a bank of england rate rise. >> we are in a situation where paying a mortgage is relatively stable. affordability is there for good. we recognize industries are on the rise. it will be gradual and modest. we believe the control within the mortgage market will be forced to accommodate those rises and interest rates. our business is capable of dealing with those rises as we invest. mark: elliott joins us with more. let us break down the numbers.
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-- elliott: they are on track to complete the number of houses they were planning to compete. that's planning to complete. they are planning to boost the dividends, around 40 p a share. shares are down today. they had a pretty good run. of the money off the table. mark: the broader housing sector. theiroften dropping asking prices. elliott: it is a question of supply and demand. this august, compared to last august, down almost 1/5. as a result, prices will drop. prices down 1.3%. talking north're
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of .8%. upward pressure in the pipeline. , south london down by 12%, compared with eight year earlier. gains -- showing showing gains. mark: up next, where the wrap up -- we are going to wrap up what you're going you to look out for. it is all about greece. what do you think about the summer sprawl in the summer housing market? i am on twitter, 24 hours a day. tell me what is on your mind on this monday morning. ♪
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mark: welcome back to on the move. i am mark barton in london. let's get to our top stories. china's economy contracted last quarter. it cut spending, exports tumbled, gdp fell 1.6%. ending two quarters of growth. 1.8%.tes of a bloomberg study indicates that china's economy is growing more slowly than official data suggests. the survey showed the economy expanded by 6.3% in the first half, compared to the officially reported 7%.
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china's premier lead visited the scene of last week's tangent explosion. -- last week's tianjin explosion. tianjin's port remains closed. what to watch this week. tomorrow we get the u.k. inflation -- german parliament will vote on greece's bailout program. ecb payment --es greece's ecb payment. a special monday morning treat, they have are you -- they have reunited us for two minutes only. go. microsoft. --athan: he is the deputy manus: he is the deputy leader. what are the issues? we know the dissent.
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we know that merkel changed her schedule. to back this bailout for greece. hans was just saying i'm a look at a six-year extension. they mayas just saying look at a 60 year extension. it would be good news for everybody. just after the start of 9:00 a.m. mark: you want to stay alive for the second day. it seems that some currencies are feeling the brunt. story there's a great that the challenge of george sorrows, which is the hedge funds trying to better the currency. what they did then in terms of capital controls. companies.article on
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they are going to know when we are stressful and how we talked to one another. olivia is going to join us. she is an economist here and bloomberg. this is the first of her innovation pieces. mark: a check in on european equity markets. here is what is happening on stocks. -- after a week of declines last week. here are some of the other asset classes. gain since april is down today. yields are down in germany. 1998.k to crude oil the lowest level since 2009. what are you focusing on? you will always find me on twitter. here i am. what is manus is that's what is
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francine: angela merkel makes the case for a greek dale in her first comments since euro area ministers were agreed on an aid package. manus: abe under pressure. the japanese economy goes negative as consumers and businesses cut spending. francine: and gold loses its shine as the precious metal's price falls. fall.gold sees its profit welcome to "the pulse"
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