mark: i mark halperin. john, and and i'm with all due respect to donald trump, you are not the only one who knows how to escalate a situation. ♪ mark: hello, hello from trump tower in new york that he -- city. today we were the first to get into this historic building. rightest tonight joins us now. he is the man of the hour and the tower, donald j trump. you will note that there has

been a tragic shooting, two people killed and shot on live tv. what are your thoughts? donald trump: it is horrible. it was literally on live television, what a shame. mark: we want to ascii about your -- ask about your presidential campaign. we talked to you the day after you announced, we went to show you one of the questions. what are the odds donald trump will be the next president? donald trump: i don't do this. i would say anywhere from 10%-20%. 10%-20%,n you said what are the odds today? donald trump: maybe 21%. if i had a deal ready to be if i have a deal that will

be done, and it is ready to be signed. 10%-5% --you said 20%. 25%-30%.ump: let's say john: that is low. if your president, i want to asked thing -- ask about the debt selling that ceiling -- debt ceiling. should republicans agreed to raise that or is there too much of a danger. donald trump: i would like to see that not happen. i think there is so much waste in washington. if they had people that knew how to cut and make deals with others. if you look at the trade deficits with all of these countries that we are rebuilding, we are rebuilding the world. we are rebuilding china.

short-term, maybe it will happen. i would not be an easy one to do it. john: do you think it is worth a game of chicken. donald trump: it is worth the fight. honestly there is so much fat in washington. if you have the right people in there, you could cut it. you would not miss a thing. mark: you agree with republicans who say do not necessarily raise the debt ceiling. donald trump: i do. there is a lot of that. john: in recent days he said the hedge fund industry was getting away with murder because they paid lower taxes. hillary clinton propose to get it of that loophole and tax it as ordinary income. the answer is yes, the carried interest is a burden on the country. -- i am saying it

for the good of the country, none of them will support me, i don't want it, i could get it if i wanted it. killer clinton has many hedge fund people supporting her. in the end, i would say the hedge fund people make a lot of money. i am about the middle class. i want them to be thriving. mark: change the tax code? in this respect? you want to tax carried interest same way? donald trump: i would take carried interest out. i would make people that are making hundreds of millions of dollars a year pay tax. i want to lower taxes for the middle class. i want to lower taxes for people making money that need incentive. john: that would affect evil in limited real estate partnerships. you are proposing you would like to raise taxes on yourself. donald trump: that's right.

i do very well, i don't mind. the middle class is getting clobbered. the middle class built this company, not the hedge fund guys. i know people in hedge funds that pay almost nothing. it is ridiculous. , an: there is another thing story in the new yorker magazine talks about your appeal. it talks about the extent to which their support for you are members of the white the premises groups. we heard that david duke came out saying he supported you. my first question is why do people like donald trump? how do you feel about that david duke endorsement? donald trump: i do not need his endorsement, i certainly would not want to. i do not need anyone's endorsement. reputed -- ould you

john: would you reputed? trembling he said i was the best of the candidates. mark: if you read the story, and read the organized white the processed groups talking about you. -- would trouble you that trouble you? john: i would have to read the story. a lot of people like me. i pull came out in new hampshire where i am at 5% -- 35%. evangelicals like me, conservatives like me, liberals like me. john: hearing that does not make you worry that there is something in your message striking a chord with the wrong kind of people. donald trump: i have not read the story. things you said about the first debate was you got the hardest question. yount to ascii you -- ask

something that was asked of governor kasich. if you had a daughter or son who was gay or lesbian, how would you explain your opposition? donald trump: it is the way it is. i would not speak to them at all about it, other than they are who they are. i want them to be happy, i will love them and cherish them. if you had a gay son, daughter, grandchild who wanted to get married, you do not want it to be legal. kasich'sump: governor answer was good, i have gone to gay weddings for my have been against from the standpoint of my teachings of growing up and going to church, i have been opposed, we will see how it all comes out. if i was in that position, i would explain.

mark: you mention the bible and how it is your favorite book, some people are surprised you say that. i am wondering what one or two of your favorite verses are. trump i i don't want to get into it, that is very personal. the bible needs -- means a lot, i do not want to get into specifics. testament?r new donald trump: equal, the whole bible. i say my second favorite book of all time -- the bible is something very special. mark: have you ever read the koran? what is your view on that? donald trump: it is certainly a piece of world history. lots of things are happening, it is not something i have a lot of

interest in. i would like to find out why there is such hatred. you look at what is going on in the world, it is wonderful to say some of let's not look at sweden or norway, but you look at what is happening with the koran, it is scary. said there walker were a handful of moderate muslims not attracted to terrorists ideology, do you agree? john: i am not sure what he meant, defined at -- define it. john: would you agree? donald trump: i think he probably misspoke as bush would say, every time he makes a mistake he says he misspoke. i think scott misspoke, did he correct it? john: i think he tried to. john: do we agree? there are certain problems.

mark: do you believe that lee harvey oswald acted alone? donald trump: i do. john: no conspiracy theory. john: who knows? in my opinion he acted alone. mark: between clarence thomas and anita hill, who do you believe? really have ai lot of respect for clarence thomas, i like him a lot, i will go with him. i think his decisions, in terms of conservative decisions, he is probably the best he -- there is on the spring court. he engaged in inappropriate activity. donald trump: i have met him on a number of occasions, i thought he was terrific. i think he is a terrific person, what do i know? you are asking me a question.

mark: it is a question that divided the country. donald trump: his decisions have been terrific decisions, from my way of thinking. mark: you were a democrat, now republican, do you recall who you are supported in 1992 when it was george bush, bill clinton, and ross perot? troubling i liked ross perot -- donald trump: i liked ross perot , i think he went off the deep end, unfortunately. had he not existed, you're not talking about bill clinton. i don't know, i think i voted for bush. i respected perot. i think he hit something. had he not gone out and come back in, a lot of crazy things happened, i think he would've had a number that was substantial. mark: you said probably. you don't remember? donald trump: i don't like

talking about who i voted for, in this case, bush. in 2004, do you remember who you supported? donald trump: bush. john: wife? w --hy? know. trump: i don't i became more conservative. who wasn't? bush was somebody that i was disappointed in. and 2004, i said iraq is a mistake. i am a person who believes strongly in the military. i believe that no one will mess with us. to do iraq was a terrible mistake in my opinion. the way we got out was a mistake. we should have kept the oil, these are things i say and people agree, some don't agree at all. i was very disappointed in him, but i voted for him.

mark: you are going to stay right here. we have a few more questions. there is more where that came from. we will be back with donald trump after this word from our sponsors. ♪

mark: we are back with donald trump. inc. you for hosting us -- thank you for hosting us. earlier, jeb bush talked about you and immigration. it as a conservative, i do not think we should spend hundreds of billions of dollars

with an and practical solution. he is the front runner, he should be held to account, just like me. he should be asked, how will you pay for it? how will you not violate people and their civil liberties? this guy does not have a plan. mark: one thing you have said is he low-energy. did he seem low-energy? donald trump: it seemed dynamic, but forced. we are spending $130 billion right now on illegal immigration. we are spending a fortune, not only the crime and problems. we are spending a minimum of $130 billion. we are going to pay for it because we will not been that -- spend that money. john: you seem to have gotten under the skin of some people. do stuff like that get under your skin? donald trump: i am not a politician. i have not been a politician.

he is a person, i guess he is trying very hard because i use the term low energy. that is ok, there is nothing wrong with that. i know some wonderful, low energy people. they are some of the nicest people i know, that does not mean they will be good at negotiating with china, bringing back jobs, money, japan, everyone else. you look at the iran deal, will he make a better deal than obama? i doubt it. mark: is he the most likely nominee? donald trump: i have been hitting him, he seems to be an establishment guy, the last thing we need is another bush, i feel strongly about that. i was not happy with the last one. i was not happy with read my lips. that was his father, a lovely man. the last thing we need is another bush. i would say that maybe, if you would've asked me that 2-3 weeks

ago, maybe he would have been the most likely one. now and not sure. seems toa group that be forming. so far they are behind. john: jeb bush once you to read his book, will you do that? donald trump: i don't think so. tangled up in the question about anchor babies. donald trump: i read the editorial, he took the hispanics and all of a sudden he changed mexicans with asians. they are angry with him. he thought he could get out of it by talking about asians, that was terrible. john: that was not a phrase you have any hesitance about using. donald trump: no one complains. he actually signed a memo saying, do not use, anchor

babies. he signed a memo saying not to use it. then he uses it. he uses it because i am using it. he wants to keep up with it, i'm not sure why. mark: would you consider him as a running mate? donald trump: i do not want to talk about that right now. i am looking good. john: let's talk about supreme court, that is your job, if you are president. if there is someone who has become a model? justice roberts, if he had not had that horrible decision on obamacare, he should have ended it. i really liked his background and thought process, he is not at all -- i am not a fan. very smart, great levels of intelligence, great temperament, that is very important.

believe it or not, i have a great temperament. or you would not be in places like this. john: you talked about other people -- is there someone out there who you would say, i would consider them? donald trump: i don't think i should mention names. it is so early. i have a sister who is on the court of appeals, she is fantastic. john: which she be good? troubling i think she would be one of the best -- donald trump: i think she would be one of the best. you mention carl, i just spoke to him, he has a big problem with corporate inversion. $2.5 trillion sitting outside, cannot come in, companies are leaving this country. it used to be, you leave new york for florida, or new jersey for texas, now it is country to country.

we have companies with thousands of jobs leaving this country to go out and get money. mark: what is the proposal? donald trump: let the money come in, tax it at a lower rate. we don't even know what it is. this is money that could be spent in this country. part of the problem with politics is democrats and republicans, for two years i have been hearing, they always agree, they still have not got it done. countries are -- companies are going and leaving the country to get money. we are losing thousands and thousands of jobs. it is getting worse, there are so many big companies looking at going outside to get the money. you expressed concern over the chinese currency devaluation. the price of chinese goods goes down, americans pay less for the goods. donald trump: it means we make less.

john: are you against that? donald trump: i am against them devalue weighing -- devaluing their comes -- currency. it is impossible for companies to compete. if you look at china and japan, they sell cars. they sell millions of cars to this country. you look at the imbalance between what we give them and give us. have us, -- john: you announce you are running two months ago, does that seem longer? donald trump: it does the longer. the low light was when i was attacked for the word for illegal immigration, it turned out to be the highlight. people are saying, he was right. storyad the horrible

about san francisco. what has happened is incredible. rapist think the word, got you in more trouble. donald trump: a 66-year-old woman was raped and tortured. we can be babies and say it does not exist, tremendous crime coming in. i think i have done a great service. i hope i have. mark: mr. trump, thank you. we will be right back after this. ♪

.ark: that was really something a lot of time, a lot of questions and answers. things to chew over.

we will chew over them after this break. ♪

john: as we mentioned, we took an exclusive to her of donald trump's exclusive headquarters. watch that on bloomberg politics.com. let's talk about this interview. mark: he said interest things about tax policy, jeb bush. he said interesting things about lee harvey oswald acting alone. some of the things he said about david duke were interesting. john: he was relentless on jeb bush. slip.l still not let that he hammered him on the anchor baby ring -- thing.

we will show you the headquarters tomorrow. until tomorrow, thank you for watching. hear from trump tower,

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