♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. charlie: chris rock's new movie is called top five. he wrote and directed it. he also played it lead character. the ap writes that top five defies categorization. romance, a silly industry satire, and also a sweet look at an artist that is just trying to figure out what he wants. here is the trailer for the film. >> whatsapp? this is andre allen. when i listen to satellite radio, i listen to sirius hits

one. >> that's good just make it a little funnier. up [beep]? -- what's time magazine voted today's guest the funniest man in america. you can also see him -- >> you can also see him getting married to reality star eric along. -- erica long. >> i don't feel like doing funny movies anymore. give me a couple of honest things, i will be more than fair. >> this is chelsea brown. she is doing a story on me.

>> things are changing, you need to wake up and smell the coffee. >> look at this, a black man trying to get a cab in new york city. do you think the wedding is hurting me? >> are you kidding me? >> the lander is in the conference room. -- zoolander >> how come you are not funny anymore? >> it's my town. if there is anything you need, you let me know. >> i should have been in for the guy. i used to be into the girls. is jay, nas,ve

scarface. my fifth is ll cool j. >> they got the lock on them. wait until you see the boy. charlie: i spoke to chris rock at the comedy cellar in new york. here is that conversation. here is what they are saying about your movie. for the first time, you act in it. for the first time, he has made a movie that is as good as his stand up. does that resonate with you? chris: that was the desired affect. there is a joke in stardust memories. people have this thing they say to me, i love your work, especially the standup. which is like, what about all those other things i do? i wanted to make a movie as good

as the standup. charlie: was the fact that you were so good at standup, that you worked so hard at it, that you crafted it, you hadn't done that in your movies before? you treated movies with the same reference as you treat standup? chris: it's not even reverence. to not care sove much and not care what people think and not care about judgment. moviesu do a movie, -- are amazing. i love doing them. but every 10 minutes of the

movie is tested. i have always been a horrible test taker. so when you are writing a movie a lot of times, you are editing yourself. you are thinking about the test. oh, they are not going to like this. this is going to test low. they do not test plays. we test them in front of audiences. you don't test every line. you don't test stand up. you test it in front of the audience but not the strict testing a movie has. this was the first movie where i did not care about offending people. i did not try to open a chain store. charlie: i want to make the movie i want to make. chris: i want to have a little restaurant that is kind of hip. i'm not trying to make mcdonald's. i want to make a chris rock movie, not my version of an eddie murphy movie. charlie: you said an interesting

thing. i want to make a chris rock movie. you would sit with adam sandler and you knew what he was doing. he was making an adam sandler movie. chris: men always dress like, we get our fashion sense from whatever friend gets laid the most. whatever friend get laid the most, i will get those shoes. that haircut, i will get it. sandler is like my biggest movie star friend. i will do what he is doing. [laughter] it didn't kind of fit me. it fits when i am in a movie with him, but it did not fit me to make a movie the same tone as him. or even an eddie murphy movie. that was not my tone. the important thing for this

movie was, i found a tone that works for me. when i do stand up, seldom do i talk about anything that is funny. almost nothing in my act is funny. if you go topic to topic. charlie: that's what people say is your genius. you can talk about race like nobody else. chris: i like to put the audience in a hole. say something controversial and then dig myself out comedically. that is what i did with the movie. i play a guy that is an alcoholic, a cheat, a hack. unlikable. i take him on a journey and try to help you understand where this guy is coming from.

charlie: tell me about writing it. what you wanted to create. people have said is it about fame and celebrity. chris: i have to go back a little bit. i have to give credit to louis ck. louis owes me because i told him, i'm not going to be your friend if i keep writing for people. he was writing things for dana carvey. pitching shows to sandler pass company. i said, no, you are the star. you are funny. you should have a show. stop pitching other people's shows. i'm going to sit on the charlie rose show and take all the credit for louis ck.

they were making money. everybody thought he should be working for other people. i thought that guy's a star. me and louis have a great friendship and i love the guy dearly. he comes to me, whatever, before i start writing it he says, you have to write it by yourself. he says, you have to write it by yourself. me and louis wrote a movie together. he says, no, you have to get in a room and feel hurt. lonely. feel the pain, the blood sweat and tears it takes to write by yourself. stare at a piece of paper and have no one to get out of this but you. you always write with people. you end up with a watered-down version of yourself. you have to write by yourself. he made me write by myself. i only did in standup.

when you write with other people you get a concensus. there were great scripts. charlie: you are in the room by yourself. chris: something emotional happened. something spiritual comes out of yourself. you are living in your head. you are really with your secret thoughts. you are not trying to get anybody's approval. it comes across in the movie. like, when i was doing standup, i know a have an hour and a half. i know it is ok if i piss you off now. i will get you down the line. you are mad. hang out, you will be fine.

charlie: are you going to try to balance stand up and acting/directing and movies? chris: your kid is only young once. charlie: stand up with you on the road. chris: it takes you away. i have tried to live a life where i have lived in new york. i did a play in new york. i will take your writing job. grown-ups films in boston, it is a three-hour drive. i have tried to be in new york as much as possible. as my kids get older and don't want to be around me, i will be more out there as a stand up. charlie: you were funny, but not the funniest guy in the room. how did you get to where you are? chris: most successful people are not the best guy in the room. michael jordan tells stories, he was not the best basketball player. he didn't make the team when he was 13. the great thing about not being the best in the room is you know

you have to work at it. it is great not being the best in the room. it has made me work. my friend lewis hamilton come away funnier than me. charlie: you made it bigger than them because -- chris: i had to work harder at it. comedy didn't just pour out of me. i had to think about it intellectually. just being liked, i never did anything well until i got on stage. charlie: you found your home. chris: it was a calling. there was nothing i did well. to this day, my friend mario, his nickname for me is just jokes because i suck at everything else.

♪ charlie: conan o'brien is here. he is in a landscape that is undergoing dramatic changes both in terms of its host and how is his being concerned. he recently took his show to cuba. it was the first time since 1959. i am very pleased to have conan o'brien back at this table. welcome. conan: i am the old guy now. one of the first shows i came on in 93, i sat here and no one thought i was going to make it. you were very nice to me, i recall. if we looked at that appearance

now, it would look like an i love lucy episode. i was a young redhaired woman at the time. charlie: you hadn't done much to performing when you took over that show. but i i had done improv hadn't a nearly the amount of performing one should have done to get a late night show. it was a complete fluke. to this day, i credit lorne michaels. he saw something and thought i think this kid can do it. it will be rough at first but i think he will be a good fit here it -- fit. that was such a different time, 1993, there was no footage of me that existed. the media couldn't find footage. can you imagine today how much footage there is of everybody? there would be hundreds of hours of footage of me that i posted on youtube and everyone would have it. there was not an existing photograph of me when they announced me for the late-night show. i remember that they were taking photographs of my appearance on

the tonight show when they announced me. tvy took photographs of the screen. charlie: doing what you do, and you know the difference because you now have a show similar to this, online, is dramatically different from what you do. you think comedy every moment, don't you? conan: putting much since about 1978i would say. i'm not kidding. i think about it all the time. charlie: david letterman was here and he said he would love to have the luxury that you have. half of my mind is thinking about the joke. rather than just simply being curious about someone. conan: i think there is a certain pressure when you are hosting a show to help guide performers through their material. you don't have the freedom to just always go exactly where you might want to go. but i also love to just have a

conversation. i try to read as much as i can. i try to talk to people wherever i go and find out where -- what they are doing. i have that curious mind, it is just in the confines of doing a comedy show. and askt just sit back all the questions you would want to ask. charlie: with david letterman stepping down, what is his magic deco -- magic? why is he so revered? ewan: i wrote a piece for magazine that kind of sums up what i think his main contribution was. i took people back to when his morning show came on the air in 1980. piece immediately, everything was wrong.

everything he did seemed in that moment wrong. he didn't look right, his manner, his affect was wrong. everything seemed wrong because he was so original. he was so profoundly original. he is respected and revered because he has the whole package. the great innovative writing and ideas. he came along at the right moment. carson had been on the air about 20 years at that point, had about 10 more years to go. he really established the talkshow. dave came along and gave us the anti-talkshow in so many ways. the comedy was so different. he was so not about show business and he was so outside of show business. his show felt like a revolution to me. i think it was. i think it was a seismic occurrence. i think it affected a lot of the comedy in the 1980's and 1990's

and for years afterwards. charlie: is the talkshow business and i changing? conan: yes. it is a whole different thing than when i started. when i started, it's hilarious to talk this way now about the old days because i feel like i am talking about the great depression. began, in 1993, you think about it, there were hardly any of these shows. there was johnny, that was it. had been around for a while, but he was kind of, i think he had maybe two years left, but he was around. but it was really, it felt like it was johnny and dave and then there was nightline and that's it for it -- it. abc had locked down a monopoly on the whole thing. it was a built-in audience.

i can't tell you how many shows there are now. i have lost track. i'm in the business and i think there might be 35 late-night shows here it -- chose. -- shows. -- there are eight ton of these shows. the technology changed with cable. then the internet comes along and what is happening is that -- tivo comes along and the ability to watch things out of sequence. the late-night show, it started to become -- i often know that 11:00 at night or 11:30 at night, my toys would probably be to catch up on some of the shows i missed earlier in the week. my natural inclination would not be, i wouldn't watch a late-night talk show anyway because -- i would watch your show before i would watch a comedy show, a late-night comedy

show because i can't relax watching those. i am looking at the theme. that's no fun. now, i think people can watch these shows a look art, meaning -- ala carte, meaning people watch a segment i did or a segment one of the jimmy's did. when i see someone on the streets and they say i love that thing you did, they don't say i love that thing you did last night, they love that thing that's bouncing around online. kimmel said it's like people plugging your greatest hits without having to sit through the end of the show. sergeant pepper said one and site use the unit which song, a lot of thought went into

which song goes where. i used to give a lot of thought to when things happened in the show. now, it doesn't seem as relevant when things happen in the show. charlie: when you create a show now about that, are you thinking about i have to find what i know will be sellable, by rubble -- virable clips? conan: i always try to lead with what's funny. i think this is wood. if not, it's fantastic simulation. beautiful. ikea. about what's funny, what would make me laugh, what would surprise me. charlie: so that's the test. conan: oh god, yeah. there is a very simple formula to have things go viral.

everybody knows what it is, it's no secret. you get a big celebrity and you get them to do some stunt. it will probably go viral. the thing is, it's called click bait. if you are just thinking about that, you will end up with a show that might have a lot of viral bits, but maybe things that you don't think immediately are that terrific. comedically are that terrific. it's all about where you want to put your priorities. ♪

charlie: james cordon is here. he is an award-winning star of the film, theater, and television. -- in the tony award for 2012. he now hosts the late late show on cbs. here is a look at his journey into late-night. >> i am sure a lot of people are wondering how i ended up here in this tonight. i include myself in that, too. rather than tell you, we thought we would show you this. reg ferguson has announced he is leaving the late late show after 10 years. the question is, who will cbs get to replace and? >> once again, we need a late-night host.

>> this is the late late show. >> who are we going to pick? >> we will do it the way we have always done it. ♪ this. [laughter] >> can't catch a break.

>> please, please, please, please. >> no ticket. >> no ticket. >> thank you. >> excuse me? [laughter] [cheering] >> you have been chosen to host a late-night show. please report for training. my name is james cordon --

corden. >> from accounting? >> no. >> tinder? >> no. you might have the ticket, but do you have what it takes? >> probably not. charlie: that's how they did it. james: that was pretty much it. that was all factual. charlie: how long have you been doing it? charlie: we have -- james: we had done 33 shows. charlie: has it been beyond expectations? have all your fears subsided? james: i think i will always be quite terrified by it. charlie: terrified by what you will do the next time you go into? james: i am often terrified

generally doing it because it is a strange thing making a show like that which i have never really had before. when you are making a show like that that you do every day, you can feel very much like you are in a team, you are just one of the team. there is a whole world of people that put this show on. you don't feel the pressure that much. it is all of us together. slowly, people tap you on the shoulder and say, good luck out there. before you know it, you find yourself on your own behind the curtain going all my god. oh, we were a team, but now it is really just sitting here. that is what i have found as the hardest thing. atm thrilled and overjoyed the way people have responded. charlie: as you know, when churchill assumed the prime minister ship at the beginning of world war ii, he said any -- everything i have done has

prepared me for this. did you have that since? james: i shouldn't compare the two. charlie: think of what you had done with your life so far. james: i do kind of feel like everything i have done in my career whether it be television shows i have written at home or the things i have acted in or doing a play which is very much myself talking to an audience, but on this show, what i am really thrilled about is that we have managed to do so many other things. singing, dancing, sketches, bits, skits, this that and the other. that has been the most thrilling discovery of it. the fact that that has been the stuff people have responded to. charlie: you have the feeling that you are changing the genre and little bit? james: no. i don't think so. shows influence another. charlie: david letterman had

done skits since the beginning. people say it's not like it used to be. now people are just facing viral hit or whatever. particularly in the last couple of weeks watching letterman's greatest hits, there were bits in that. the bit where he worked at a drive-through orders he and steve martin's big gay day out. those things would have been huge on youtube. i sort of feel like youtube should send letterman some money. he almost invented it. happeningat is what's now. there is a really interesting interview which jay leno showed me which was seven years after johnny carson had taken over the tonight show. someone wrote in the newspaper,

back tomr. par coming save the tonight show? all johnny carson does is skits used to dod mr. par proper interviews. by show is hugely influenced jimmy fallon's show. i'm sure his show is influenced by ellen. things start to influence you. charlie: but it feels comfortable at least. james: i feel a lot more comfortable now, just in the -- i am just overwhelmed by the way people have responded. charlie: is it the idea that you didn't step on a banana or do anything that people would have said. how did this ever happen?

they are saying, isn't this interesting what he is doing? james: i guess so. i am overwhelmed by that, really. relieved andly grateful. charlie: could this happen in primetime, a show like this? jay leno tried to do it but jay leno was jay leno. james: i'm not sure. charlie: is it late-night where there is a feeling of freeness deco -- freeness? james: i think it is also the feeling of the end of someone's day. not that i know anything about the history of late-night, but i feel like the change in late-night is a greater sense of warmth and positivity. if the reflection of what is happening in the world. charlie: especially now because you have seen the immediacy of

news 24 hours a day. james: what you might want is someone who says it's going to be all right. and then they wake up in the morning and realize it not. [laughter] charlie: i put them to bed, too. -- ither makes you laugh gives you a chance to eavesdrop on something. getting to know you in a real way rather than in a performing way. small changes we have made in our show as opposed to other things, bringing our guests out on -- at the same time. in terms of atmosphere, we would talk about the show going, we are on after a talk show.

what should we do? -- the shownk, before us is on a broadway theater. where would you go after the theater? a bar or a comedy club or somewhere that is more intimate. you would probably talk with other people. let's make this that feel more intimate. let's bring our guests out together and make it feel more like an organic conversation. we didn't know how people would respond to that. people were got smacked -- gobsmacked that we put our couch the other way. but i guess that's the sense of freedom you have charlie: when you having grown up here. haven'tave when you grown up here? charlie: are you fearless? you seem to be willing to take risks. james: i think in all of these

things, you have to google earth yourself and realized it doesn't really matter. do you know what i mean? what is the worst thing that can happen? you look a fool. so what? i will sort of do anything for a laugh, really. charlie: how long has that been with you deco -- you? how long has the idea of making people laugh been a source of satisfaction or even ambition? james: i think a lot of it comes from school. i had a very good and positive school experience. normalent to a very comprehensive school in the u.k. so there were a lot of children per year per class. if you look like me, if you are

big like me, in school, anything that's different, you are a target. mucher got targeted that because i realized quite quickly , hang on, if i just do something silly and make these .uys laugh, then i will deflect there is power in that. what you realize it, if you can say something quite quickly and own,a bully feel on his and ostracized, then believe go ok, we will stay away from him or it -- him. the kid over chase there and they feel sorry for him. it should have been made. -- me. but i think that is where it came from. charlie: our most of this gives you do carefully scripted -- are most of the skits you do carefully scripted? james: it's just a matter of

going, you want it to feel organic. i think our eighth episode, we did a show in somebody's house. we got a permit to film on a street in los angeles and we didn't know which house we would knock on or if anyone would let us in. we thought, let's just do it and go for it and try it. we knocked on one door and they said no. there was no one in on the second or. on the third door, they said sure. we shot the show in somebody's house. we had pretty much no prep for was going than beck to play and jeff goldblum and i would play hide and seek at some point. -- charlie: that's what you do in a house like that. james: those things that i saw on david letterman's show i find

absolutely inspiring. his interaction with people and getting out on the street and just doing stuff and being a citizen of the world, really. we do a thing on our show called take a break where we go to someone's work and say, do you need a break? i will step in for you. i will cover your shift. they leave and i will just cover the shift for an hour. it is not granted, we don't know what will happen. we did it once in a mattress shop and there were only for customers in the whole hour so it was just me and the owner of the shop cuddling on a bed. that kind of it, really. that's when i feel like late-night has an ability. charlie: this show is like a part-time job for you. [laughter] james: it really is. you are going to do

movies and specials and make documentaries? james: i feel like i really have to give everything -- i have to give all of my focus to this show right now. i just do. in there, i/o it my family to be with them. i owe it to my family to be with them. it is a dream of mine to host the tony awards. charlie: what does that say about you? know that anyone i wonder if this guy enjoys people looking at him. charlie: it is live performance and everything. james: i also think it is the best award show on tv. there is a massive element of performance. award shows by their very nature

are very indulgent things. crystal whoas billy said, yeah this is what people need, to see a group of billionaires -- millionaires giving each other golden statues. i think that is one of the greatest lines i have ever heard. charlie: everybody loves a good contest. james: i love broadway and the theater so much. i have had the best times of my life in this city working in those 12 streets of new york. charlie: great to have you here. james: always a pleasure. ♪

charlie: as these on surrey is here. he is a standup comedian, writer, actor, and has just written his first book. ansari it takes a look at how technology influences dating. here is a look at the book's trailer. ♪

>> early to bed and early to rise makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. >> high, -- hi, i am munro. >> i don't smoke and i don't like people who do. >> if you would like to know more about me, please write. ♪ aziz: as the bozos you thought earlier in this clip so painfully illustrated, finding love has never been easier. that's why i decided to write my new book, modern romance. charlie: i am pleased to have yo u back at the table. modern romance run through everything you do, doesn't it?

aziz: yeah. i mean i think love and finding love our something that is .lways in your mind my material and whatever i'm working on are usually autobiographical. it has always been a part of it in whatever stage i and in. i am starting to loosely write some new stand up and it is about being in a relationship for a couple years. the last special is when i was dating. it is always a part of it. charlie: writing a book was the next step. aziz: in my last special, i had written about some of these issues about how so much of dating has moved towards your phone and texting and how we have all these weird dilemmas that seem very uniquely personal to us but they end up being quite universal. at a couple of sociologists and academics and i would talk to them about these things. the conversations were really

interesting. it was interesting to have their insight into these issues are at -- issues. if i could do that as a book, have that kind of dialogue with me and sociologist and do some real research, but have it be in my voice. it would be a unique project. i assume that is when eric came in. aziz: i pitched the idea and i told the publishers i wanted to write it with a sociologist so i could do it properly and have it work as a humor book and a physiology book. they introduced me to eric and he really call it -- really got it. we interviewed hundreds of people all over the world. we talked to all these top academics. we did do some stuff on reddit. one thing that was really wepful -- at one point realized, we will not be able to go everywhere. be limited. if we do it on the internet, we can reach anybody. we can also get them to talk

about things they would maybe be hesitant to talk about in person. people got very personal on these internet forums and it was super helpful. charlie: at the end of the day, what is the most import thing you learned about modern romance? aziz: i would say, we are happier when we spend less time on our screens and more time in front of people. charlie: i would say so too. aziz: you look at online dating stuff. it is huge. way bigger than i even thought going into the book. it is how people meet their spouse now. it is bigger than work, school, and friends combined. you talked to so many young people doing this stuff. still -- dothere most people acknowledge they met their person who became their husband or wife or partner that --? charlie: -- aziz: there is still

a little bit of sigma but it is going away. charlie: i had someone say to me the other day that they would love to go online to expand their world but i would be nervous about people knowing that's what i was using. aziz: if you are a public figure, there is a different stigma. it is a little bit different. thear as a stigma for general public, i think it is going away, especially when you look at these numbers. charlie: and look at the results. aziz: people are really successful at this. you expand who you will meet. someonetrying to find to spend the rest of your life with or to love. why not use that resource? charlie: how have texting changed the way people date? so much of the early stages of courtship have moved on to texting and the phone. you talk to women who meet a guy at a bar or a party. they get to know him a little bit, but their impressions of

him really get formed even more when they start receiving messages. you kind of relate, there is almost two cells. you have your phone self and your real self. people have these devices that contain a big part of their personal life. the way you communicate on that really defines how people think about you. i think with this romance stuff, especially with texting, you are not hearing a voice or anything. it is even different than a phone call. you just ev's words -- see these words and people read so much into how long it takes to type back or grammar and spelling. some people like it when a guy uses an emoji. it is interesting how these preferences developed and how certain things you say on your phone can really do find -- can

really define your world. i talked to a woman want to said she was just honest with people. i ask you out for dinner, you don't want to go, what do you say? she said she would say she didn't want to. in some ways, that's really nice. can youther hand, imagine getting a text like that? that is the meanest coldest thing anyone has ever said to me. i am a fellow human being that wanted to break bread with you and get to know you a little better. is that such a horrifying situation? hey, you want some free food? not if your presence is involved. you got a gift certificate? i will go with my friends. guys get excited when i come on the show? charlie: yeah, they do.

what do you see out there in terms of the audience response? what gets the biggest laughs? aziz: there is almost two different laughs. people saye where that is a funny thing. there is another kind of laugh where people are laughing and you can see they are thinking, oh my god, i have felt that before. you hit a deep nerve there. that is what's most exciting. when you hit something that everyone is feeling that no one is talking about, you are in a great place, i think. 2012,e: between 2005 and more than a third of couple to got married -- met through the internet. that is in the book. what are the worst experiences people have online? i also talked to people who have that they will go through

five people and meet them and then get frustrated and think this is working. then the sixth person is like their dream. aziz: there are a couple things. the people who seem to be unhappy with online dating were people who spent a lot of time sorting through profiles and sending messages back and forth and trying to establish this amazing connection before they met. charlie: looking for perfection. aziz: and trying to send so many messages informed this bond on the screen when in reality, you form connections in person. spending time with people in person is the key to all my dating. there is a woman, helen fisher that we interviewed, she put it beautifully. she said these things should not be referred to as only dating. they should be called online introduction services. that's what it should be called. charlie: what it does is expands the opportunity. online, you don't have

you have college and work. that's it. amount offinite people. many have friends and friends of friends and then randomly meeting people at a party. this is a seemingly infinite set of people. charlie: are you doing more political jokes now? aziz: i kind of don't follow the news closely enough. i always end up getting bummed out when i follow the news. i have always just kind of sticking to personal stuff. charlie: how did your parents like south carolina? aziz: i guess they liked it. they are still down there. they moved over to charlotte, north carolina. charlie: which is where i'm from. they were in south carolina, weren't they? aziz: that's where i grew up. charlie: you speak about your mother's experience emigrating to america. i got here, i didn't know

anyone. i was so far away from my friends and family. i barely even new york father. she had known him -- knew your father. they had had an arranged marriage. she got so scared. i asked what she did that birthday. she said, i didn't know what to do. i just sat on the couch and cried. i was like, that is so sad. i asked her how she got through that. just one ofwas those moments i knew i had to be brave and figure it out. do you ever have moments like that? and i was like no! my life is super easy because you did all the struggling. to have anyng struggles to tell my kids about. what is my story going tbe like? oh, son, once when i was flying from new york to l.a., my ipad died.

like we are be teleporting to mars. -- my kids will be charlie: thank you for coming. aziz: thanks for having me. charlie: where is your next concert? aziz: i recorded that special at the garden. once the record them, you have to write a whole new act. i am filming a tv show so i have been busy with that. at some point, i will have to get back to the comedy clubs. charlie: thank you for joining us. we will see you next time. ♪

♪ emily: xiaomi may be a new kid on the block, but it is no longer so little. at five years old, xiaomi rivals apple and samsung in the chinese smartphone market and is valued at $45 billion. but worldwide it is not a household name. former google executive hugo barra intends to change that. born and raised in brazil, he left a top job as the public face of android to take xiaomi global. joining me today on "studio 1.0," is xiaomi vice president of global operations, hugo barra.