>> from our studios in new york city. this is charlie rose. charlie: gisele bundchn is the highest paid model in the world and wife of tom brady. and written a new book, it is a series of photographs. i talked with her recently about the book and that's part one. and then about her life from brazil to world wide stardom. charlie: let's talk about this book, it is a heavy book.

gisele: yes. how young were you then? gisele: 17. no hair and no makeup. that's how i was -- that's a picture that shows exactly me, yeah. so that was my first -- when you go, you have to have a book. and this is my book. the first photograph that was taken by my mother. this is the actual book, the first time someone put makeup on me. but you see my face kind of like, i'm kind of wondering and i don't know what's ahead. charlie: there is your dog.

gisele: that was my partner in crime. and a lot of crazy emotions and things happening in life and you feel alone. she is the one -- charlie: she's been there. gisele: she's my bodyguard. she was with my for 14 years and the book is dedicated to her. charlie: no longer with us? when did she die? gisele: sorry. two years ago sorry. charlie: anything that you love -- gisele: these aren't published. i was trying to make a heart shape. and can you do some pictures for the book and do it however you see me and kind of like this

shadow. and i like them because they are artistic. .his is an artist this is a picture of me three years old and represented me and he was like, i feel like a child and daughter of nature and i feel so connected to it. ifelt like -- sensitivity and feel like it's still me today. charlie: a lot of things changed. just published a book. you announced no more runways. 35 years old. reat family, two kids. want more? gisele: you know, i always dreamed having three kids

because i come from a family of six girls. it would be great. so three was always my numr. i'm pretty good on that. charlie: boston is your home? gisele: boston is my home and it's where i have been living since -- gisele: 2006. eight years, nine years. it's a city, i live outside the city and i enjoy there. i'm a nature girl so i enguy being surrounded by nature and keeps me grounded and happy. it's nice to wake up to the birds and the kids go to school near our house. charlie: you have roots there now? >> i have always moved so much since i was 14. i moved out of my parents house when i started working.

from 14 until i got married, i didn't have a home. the home was the plane. for years it was just like that. it was nice to feel rooted and nice to feel that you can call it home. for a long time i didn't feel. charlie: since 2002, you were the highest paid model in the world, 13 years. you have taken on responsibilities, with respect to the united nations and what you are doing in the amazon, to refocus and rethink who you are and where you're going. gisele: i'm so grateful to be where i am right now. i think sometimes, i felt like life was kept going through the motions and done what you have always done. if you want to create change in your life a and in the world and

that's what i want to do, you have to be able to stop and really look where you're at and make an assessment. i i'm grateful because -- see my kids helped a lot and slow that down because priorities have changed and shifted. before having kids and having kids. well, i'm a mom this is my biggest role ever. how i educated my kids and how i love them and what is the most important. a lot of things have changed and have been happening for a while. and grateful to be in this space where i'm creating space so i can be a mom for my kids and work on personal projects. i care for myself and figure out what is my passion, how can i make a difference?

that's what i'm thinking. so i'm grateful that i have the opportunity at 35 years old to do that versus just keep going, you know what i'm saying? charlie: what is the role of modeling, are you saying good-bye? gisele: i'm fulfilled and given a lot of energy and dedication and focus to that and 20 years is more than half of my life doing that. it is long enough. i still have some contracts. they are going to be going forward. there are things that i will be doing but it's not my focus anymore. charlie: beyond family, the thing that excites you the most? gisele: i love children. anything to do with children is so special to me. i love mother earth, so more

consciousness around that. and i love children, so i think the best way to work with children would be in the educational area because that's how you can give them best opportunities. for me, meditating and growing in words, i meditate daily, but it is different when you have a million daily. charlie: you do it twice a day, 20 minutes a time. gisele: i have been doing a different kind of meditation. i felt like i needed to -- sometimes in life you find the biggest blessings when you have the biggest challenges. so i started meditating in my early 20's. i would go once or twice a year, three days of meditation and three days of silence.

three days is what i used to do in my early 20's and how i shifted what i thought about life. that was one big change and the way i thought. and i think now i do that because 20 minutes a day is all a mom can do. charlie: it clears your mind? gisele: it helps me just kind of -- i th myself in a way call it my higher self and a place where i can have access to a lot more information. the monkey mind keeps taking you here and there. and it doesn't stop. and you realize like wait a minute, i don't have to go with this stuff.

i'm whatever i want. what is it i want to focus on and create. meditation for me allows me to focus and kind of recalibrate and go back into the center and come from a place of more consciousness. charlie: there was a time you looked for spiritual understanding. you sought out spiritual books. gisele: i started out when i was 14 years old. when i left home and i remember that i was going to school and i didn't go to school. d i see my school -- in life s the best school. nobody was dictating what i needed to study. i was living in japan and new york.

but i think it has always been something very important to me. more mystic stuff. and one of the first books i and "mastery of love" studying buddhism and different forms of religion because i was interested in them. when i was 13 years old i was sent to the principal's office so was very catholic and i'm asking the teacher, listen, i really don't understand -- jesus says you have to turn the other cheek. why the 10 commandments and she sent me to the principal's office. i was like hello, this isn't the answer i was looking for. there must be more to life. there must be other answers and

if she is my teacher and can't give me a simple answer and study when i started about trying to find answers in other forms of knowledge, let's say. ♪

charlie: you said nobody really knows me. gisele: that's true. just my personal friends and family really know me because when you leave home at 14 years old and start doing this job, modeling is not something i wanted to do. i was really into sports. i never opened a fashion magazine before. so girls see me, they say you want to be a model, it was an opportunity and showed up in my life at 14 and i didn't know

anything about it. charlie: never seen a fashion magazine? gisele: i never seen a fashion magazine. you go see my city -- charlie: not one single traffic light. gisele: i came from a small town. charlie: middle-class family. gisele: my mother worked in a bank and my father worked in eal estate and then he was a sociologyist and wrote a lot of books and was interested in people, society and philosophy. and wrote two books. charlie: the realistic side comes from your mother? gisele: yes. my father is the guy who he is the person i can bounce ideas

off. and my mom was the person who taught me how to work hard. my mother was always working in the bank and making sure we had to go to school and worked all day and came home for lunch for an hour. and then you wouldn't see her all day. she woke up at 5:00 in the morning to wash clothes for eight people. she was focused and very quote devoted to her family. charlie: that's the part of you became a model. gisele: and my father is we are more than you can see with your eyes. so i think he was a seeker. he was always constantly wanting to dig deeper. he was a good balance because when i started, i definitely had a lot of my mom.

it was like, how do i become the best i can be? no matter what is being thrown to me. i'm going to show up and give my best. that came from my mom. but i think what i was able to keep me kind of safe, 20 years in this business, you see a lot of things and not a lot of very happy ending stories, neutrality kept me safe as well. both of them were extremely important in my life. i wouldn't be me if i didn't have both of those sides. charlie: you wanted to be a ball player. >> gisele: i'm 5' 11." charlie: you went from modeling to have a better posture because ou are a tall posture. gisele: my mom was playing.

i was 5' 11" at 14. everybody wanted to make fun of me. i was this much taller. i have a twin sister. she had the same height as everybody else. and i was bulleyed a lot in school. it anything that was like -- was really mean. i felt like what they were calling me. when you are young, you are awkward and you don't need any help being awkward. charlie: you didn't say watch out i'm going to be the most famous model in the world? gisele: i didn't think that was a possibility. charlie: when they said you could be a model? gisele: i was like mom -- all my

my sisters were there on the mall and this guy came to me, a stranger and my mom said never talk to strangers and i said, mom! this guy is calling. and i went there -- my mom came and went yes. he wants to teach me a model and talked to my mom and said your daughter is really tall and skinny and has the form of a model. so why does president she try? and my mom asked me. i never thought of modeling but i was a person who liked a challenge and i didn't know. i was moved by that. he if i was a meeting and i played in both teams and my team

i was captain. i just wanted to push myself. i always felt like how can i be better. if i took nine in a test i was so upset, why didn't i get a 10. i have five sisters and i have a twin sister, we were in competition and always trying to get our parents' attention because it is hard to get attention when you are a middle child and a twin. so i was trying to kind of like all my sisters were very good in school. we saw how our parents were and all wanted to make them proud and make them proud also and do good, you have to do your best. charlie: did you see it as a ticket for you and did you have any sense that this is going to

be doing for the next 20 years of my life? gisele: no. you're crazy. i had no idea and the funny thing is one of the parts is i'm going to give it a try. first money i made for the first four years, it was going towards my family. they never asked for any money. it was my contribution. i felt very grown-up. can help my family and i felt responsible and i felt good to contributes. it felt like maybe i was thinking if i can be in this business for five, 10 years, i will be able to buy an apartment and not going to school. i remember buying my first apartment at 19 years old and i was thinking, wait a minute, if i'm going to finish this job

because i saw a lot of girls going. if i'm going to have to pay this much money for rent a month, maybe i should put this money towards a mortgage. god knows when this could end. i saw so many girls, you saw them doing something and you never saw them again. this what happened. this is a business the same you start, as fast as it can go down. it's a very intense. charlie: you were hungry for it? you had real drive. gisele: that's the kind of person i am. i think i'm a person who tried to be the best i can be. if i'm going to clean my apartment, you are going to eat on the floor. i'm that person. you know what i'm saying? [laughter]

gisele: i'm not going to be there if i can show up 100%. charlie: clearly you have that, tom has said you are one hell of a businesswoman? gisele: i'm a human being in constant search to see how to be the best. charlie: are you the best because of the look you had -- gisele: not at all. charlie: why? why are you the best? gist ghiss -- gisele: yes. charlie: you know them as your friends. they're in the book. is this -- gisele: is this a quote? charlie: yes. charlie: it's drive part, certainly the look. you changed the face of modeling.

gisele: i was the right face at the right time. i think i was lucky. charlie: the world was ready to switch to a different kind of look. gisele: i felt i was at the right place at the right time with the right attributes.

charlie: did you begin to think inside i'm prettyy, because there are some people who never

think they are pretty. but you began to realize? gisele: i realized that there was something i could do with this. i think i can really do something here, you know. charlie: some magic between you and a camera. gisele: i felt comfortable with the camera. i separated her, gisele, the per ona than gisele, the goofball, tomboy. wanted to create this glamor. charlie: you understood that and you were willing to serve that? gisele: yes, i was. charlie: that's what made you among other things, victoria $25 million. ou

gisele: it was a funny thing because i was doing fashion at the time. and in 2000, you were a fashion or commercial model. you can travel between two worlds and be fine. you are either a fashion model or catalog model. i remember talking with my agent d who has worked with me and she -- i remember her saying, this is a decision you might have to make. this is a commercial client versus a fashion client and really, these models don't do this. charlie: you were breaking that barrier? gisele: i didn't know i could, i was taking a chance. when am i go go to make $25

million again? i have to take that chance and i was able to navigate between the two worlds. charlie: your parents knew you were making money? gisele: but not that kind of money. charlie: what did victoria secret do? gisele: i think we both benefited. charlie: they gave them an image. gisele: and they gave me money. the combination was a good combination. being at the right place at the right time and right fit for them and for me. and it was a different kind of exposure because when you are doing a fashion. and that was more mainstream because it was cannot logs and more commercial. and before, i never did interviews, but now because i

was doing victoria secret. charlie: you found out you love to talk? what did you say, you wanted a talk show so you could ask the questions? gisele: gisele, you talk so much. i said no, not that much. charlie: when you met tom brady. gisele: he's kind. you know him. he is good. he's a good man. he has a sweetness about him and almost like, he is very gentle, kind and loving. i remember meeting him and i didn't realize how good-looking

he was. now, he knows that, but at the time i remember, this is a guy who is very sweet and doesn't ome across like -- there was a humility. there was something like, this guy is really nice. charlie: he had as much competitive instimping as you were. was that part of the attraction? gisele: he is more competitive than me. in my job, it's about collaboration. he is kind of the boss in some way. he says, now, guys this is smack something -- i don't know the language, dot, dot, whatever he says, football language. but he kind of says -- he sets the play. my job i have collaboration. makeup, hair, stylists,

designers. who is she today? it is a collaboration. in my job, it's more -- for me it's about understanding and eally getting out -- charlie: are you whatever they need and want? you can wear the clothes and take the look and the character they want to see? gisele: that's what makes a good model. up become the right canvass like a painter. let's paint together. i think that is the collaboration. when you come in, you never know what character you are going to get to play, if you have seen the book, today is going to be like painted and sparkles or today is going to be like, you now -- today is going to be --

it's a different range you can go. charlie: with the talent you had, i'm surprised you never became deeply into acting. gisele: i never really -- it wasn't my thing, acting. charlie: you could be what they wanted and turn on a dime and be something else. it didn't turn you on? gisele: i was doing so well what i was doing. charlie: played it safe. gisele: i enjoyed what i was doing. i loved being with the people. after a while, seeing people, you work with the people 20 years and nice to see them and they have kids and talk to them. i like that kind of relationship that i was able to have throughout the 20 years in the business and i did -- i did that

for a day. and i felt that world of being completely kind of immersed in something for three months at a time, it was more of the role play. i enjoy kind of like and good-bye, gisele. off now. charlie: per sona stays there? in 2008 you meet tom. three-hour e a long conversation. gisele: it was like december. charlie: a great football player that you knew nothing about him. charlie: you knew something bout formula i racing. gisele: why are they stopping all the time. charlie: you knew you liked him.

gisele: he was kind. charlie: and he has said he's my best friend and he said you're his best friend and he knows you are there for him as he went through tough times recently and you knew that he would be at your back and these are important qualities for you. gisele wants to know that you have a family and her man are there and her friends. gisele: that's what life is about, isn't it? i'm a very vulnerable person. i'm very sensitive. vullnerblet is a good thing. i like to feel things. i feel like my body -- my feelings guides me. if i'm not allowed to feel what i'm feeling, i don't notice and i ask myself how am i feeling

about this, how does it feel in my body. that's what guides me. in the beginning of my career, i didn't show that because it was very scary, so i would be like gisele the strong, tough professional. that was the image because i felt like i was safe that way. if everyone knew i was vulnerable -- charlie: ruined the image. gisele: i would be exposed to having to feel so much and it as safe to be with this gisele persona. so it was good -- what are you going to do? just survive. charlie: you are madly in tom.

and he is scam pping up to boston every time and you find out his former girlfriend is pregnant. tough for you guys or tom says she wants to have the child and you were there to support her? gisele: i find out that happened in february, the same time that everyone found out,, because i found out the same day the press found out. and it was a challenging thing because here i am thinking i'm meeting this guy and we met and everything's great and then this happens. i felt like i didn't know what to do. it was one of most thoments -- moments. i think it was challenging for everyone involved. charlie: you thought you might need to run away for everybody. gisele: he just -- that's not

what -- i think when you're in a situation like this when there are a lot of emotions and your heart is involved and in love with someone and he felt like that was a relationship that he felt that when they broke up back in november or whenever, that was done and then that happens there are a lot of emotions for people involved and it was a very challenging time for all of us. i think for the three of us, it was very challenging. charlie: the mother, you and tom? are gisele: yes. charlie: is he part of the family? joint custody? gisele: he is a wonderful kid. when this thing happened, it was a perfect story for the press and the way they played around. i felt like the press --

sometimes are heartless and mean and i think it was really great we were able to talk to each other and come to a place of understanding of where everybody was at and what was the most important thing and how can you best support jack. and now, eight years later, we have a great relationship, all of us. and i think, i couldn't have ited for a greater child and all worked out. but it was a tough time. charlie: how tough was it when tom went through? gisele: that's when, that's when you know who are your friends and who loves you. my father always says, the quality of your life depends on

the quality of your relationships. and he's so right about that. that's all that matters. nothing else matters. what else is more important than that. no matter how challenging it was, we have been supportive of one another and i think that's the most important thing you can have in life. charlie: benjamin came along and was born in boston. gisele: i always dreamed of having a home birth. one of those things you wanted to do. i remember my parents saying you are crazy. you are going to die. i said no i'm not. charlie: you insisted on it bus? gisele: you know when you have a vision? as a girl, i hadal dream of like

having a baby naturally in the water. charlie: in the bath? gisele: i had that feeling and watching those birth and so connected and so pauseful and it was a beautiful experience and i wanted to make it a beautiful experience. i'm a woman and i wanted to have it that way. and after i saw so many movies -- tom is like, i'm not done i'm not watching another woman having birth. [laughter] charlie: don't show me any more movies. so then i was able to have him at home. charlie: you described it as he was born, you felt like the most wonderful feeling. gisele: the more i felt the pain, because it is a painful

experience, but i felt like it was -- i knew that behind that, i was going to meet my child. behind that, he is closer, closer. my focus was so much on that by it was he came out and amazing and never been happier. and i felt like if i can do this, i can do anything. i felt stronger. there was a part of me who felt like, what else is going to come because i felt i could anything after that. charlie: what do you want to do? gisele: i want to be in service of some form. bring more consciousness into the world. hopefully we are going to have -- charlie: a conversation. so you are doing the united nations thing.

united nations ambassador to the environment. gisele: personal projects i was of this doing ar lot line the time i did it. it was always for environmental causes. we were planting forests. charlie: a lot of us were planting forests. gisele: we had a personal project. we had a lot of different projects through the years and there are individuals who are actually doing some interesting things and they asked me to be ambassador and from then i became a u.n. ambassador. charlie: you gave a million-plus dollars to the people in haiti.

gisele: i'm very grateful. and i feel like any time we can o something to help, i feel -- i don't know. charlie: two most important lessons you have learned is one, remember where you came from and the second lesson is to give. those are the two things you learned? gisele: yes. bringing such a joy. ven if it's a smile. that smile comes back to you. any gift. each individual in the world has a choice. we all have a choice no matter social class, no matter what we do as a job, we have a choice to come from love or not. every day you have a choice to be someone who welcomes people

that come from love or energy that is not love. each individual can give. all of us are going out there, how can i best -- how can i be more loving and be more conscious. the world would be a different place and everyone can do that. that doesn't cost anything. charlie: you are a reflection of your mother and your father. go get it and you understand the meaning of it? gisele: yeah. charlie: how do you like all of this celebrity stuff. it is part of who you are and why you are in part. the public demands to see your photograph as part of the reason that you've had seen and done things you never could have imagined. gisele: i'm grateful for that

charlie: the public wants to see what you have earned. in fact, the measurement. there are people who say that you are the last supermodel and i say that with some caution but my sense is that not how you view yourself. that's what you do. that's not who you are? gisele: 100% correct. that's my job. charlie: i'm not sure i understand where you are going in terms of your job, other than the passionate interest that you have. family that you have where does is part fit in that is about the world that you have been in for the last 20 years? are you moving away from that

after you get through the contracts that you have? gisele: i'm not saying i'm never going to model again. maybe there is a product or a company. i don't know what's going to happen. if you said i was going to be in this business for 20 years, i would say you're crazy. never say never, but i feel like i know that my focus has shifted and i think -- charlie: and it's your choice. you're on top. gisele: i'm so grateful for that. every day, i'm so grateful that this working very hard for the last 20 years and devoted myself has given me the opportunity to have this choice today, to be in disclosure -- going into this

chapter with so much gratitude, joy and happiness. a lot of people didn't end this way. charlie: a lot of casualties. once they stopped taking pictures, their life spiraled downward. gisele: the bigger the tree branches, the wider they become on the outside, the deeper the roots have to be on the inside, you know what i'm saying? to sustain that. that's the work i have been doing consistently as the branches got bigger, the bigger the roots had to get to sustain that balance. never believed the blame or the place. you understand. you go in there and just remember who you are and keep that separate and for me now coming into this place in my life, i feel like, my father

likes to say there are cycles of seven and it's funny when i was 14 when i started and 35 makes three cycles of seven. i just realized, i'm getting into the cycle of seven. charlie: do you worry about getting older? gisele: i'm interested in getting wiser. i graph tight to people who want to teach me. i'm meeting with amazing people and i live in boston. so i'm just so interested in what those people have -- charlie: you were so busy and you were on a plane all the time and were on the runway all the time and camera all the time, that now you are having to sort of drill down. gisele: like discover what

inspires me and -- i think sometimes when you are in the hunt and just going, you are not noticing that you are going like that until you stop and wait a minute. i'm here, i'm going through the motions and i feel i'm in this place of my life where i can say, the wonderful part of having -- i was wondering how did i become a model. i never knew about professional care and i know why. i needed to acquire those things that this profession gave me so i can have maybe perhaps a voice or the subjects -- talk about the subjects that i find important and meet the people that i find interesting because maybe now they want to meet me and before they didn't want to meet me. that's what i was able to acquire.

charlie: do paparazzi drive me crazy? gisele: i don't think it's respectful for people to follow people and i don't understand how that's right. i understand there are people in the business who made their careers that way but i tell you when i started modeling at 14, there was none of that. was like -- that was not charlie: when they photograph you in paris, what is your reaction? gisele: you know what i feel about paparazzi? they are cheating a system and e media that doesn't have to self-check. they don't know what's true or not true. they can create any story they want and have zero

accountability. if you talk about what you are saying, you have to have to take accountability. gossip problem, it's the world. focus on that energy. everyone can focus on whatever energy they want to. that's the energy you are going to create. i'm a person who chooses to focus on things that inspire me and make me happy because that's what i want to create. that's what i have been doing. if i want to listen to the haters when i was 14 years old, i wouldn't be where i am today. i focus, everything is energy

and there is a negative and energy that isn't serving me and not serving the higher good. i consciously choose to focus on things that make me happy. and i give no energy to thinking anything. charlie: you don't want to do that or go there. it's low energy and distracting and more inspired by all that you want to learn and all the things that make better use of your time. gisele: i don't talk about gossip because it doesn't serve anybody. charlie: so now, what do you hope people get from this book. -- $700 book. lots of photographs of you and tributes from your friends. ots of famous pictures of you.

the money goes to charity. what do you want people to come away with? gisele: you know, it wasn't about anybody else. it was really about something i felt that i wanted to honor the past 20 years and it was like a orm of celebrating something that i saw was a big accomplishment in my life and i felt it was like a very important cycle in my life. and i wanted to honor everyone that was part of it and worked with because they were all very important in who i am today and every person played a role. it was a form of celebrating and honoring, you know, this part of my life. and i wanted to celebrate that. so it was really in the spirit

that that i felt to the business. charlie: here's what i think that is interesting about you, one is your drive, two is a sense of looking for meaning, three you are at a place where you don't know where the future is. that's rather exciting. gisele: it's exciting but scary. it's exciting, because you have the opportunity, when you have no definition exactly what it is, everything's possible. miracles happens that way. magic happens that way. when we have a strong opinion about something and then we forget to see all the signs and magic that happening. you should stop and listen and you are open to it. and i worked very hard since i was 14 years old to be at this

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