charlie rose: concussion is the new film starring will smith. discovered football's head trauma and try to bring these findings to the league's attention. it is getting a lot of attention on and off the field. the nfl declines to comment.

tom brady said he plans to see the film. here's a look at concussion. will smith: when i was a boy heaven was here in america was here. i never wanted anything as much as i wanted to be an american. hearts are broken over the loss of hall of famer mike webster. why does the city -- the here of the city die in disgrace? i can tell something is wrong. in 25 years i have never requested a test like this. i am the wrong person to have discovered this.

repetitive head trauma shocks the brain. it turns you into someone else. get me a meeting with the commissioner. >> they are terrified of you. you are going to war with a day .f the week will smith: if you continue to deny my work, your men will die. i have to keep going. these men are not machines.

we must honor our warriors. >> do you understand the impact of what you are doing? smith: tell the truth. ♪ charlie rose: what brought this together for you? >> there was an epidemic of football players committee suicide and suffering head traumas. there was see gq article that ridley scott had bought. that is how the film came to be.

he was involved from the very beginning. he is part of the fabric of our family is still makers. i'm an old journalist. and i immerse myself completely in the story. smiths great about will is his joy and preciousness and professionalism matches bennett's. charlie rose: why did you choose this? smith: this one was very different from my normal process of choosing. happens, you get a .creenplay on friday night city can read over the weekend. so they can know by monday. call and mye

daughter says daddy a man on the phone named ridley scott. that's not just some man. that is sir ridley scott. he said i have a gift for you. he sent me this effect -- screenplay. i was thinking to myself. .his ain't no gift i am a football dad. my son played football for four years. philadelphia with the eagles. deeply conflicted about being the person to bring this .ilm to life it is a very inconvenient truth.

a part of me was like, would i be hypocritical? feel? i really i met with the doctor. when he was growing up in nigeria, heaven was here in america was here. it was the place where god sent all of his favorite people. i was so moved by his life and his story. i became deeply compelled as a parent because i didn't know this information. i knew that if i did not know lots of other parents didn't know as a parent i had to do it.

as a human being hearing his story. his messages human beings shouldn't play foot. that wasn't the part of the message that i connected to. the part that i connected to is that for the elevation and the ,lla -- evolution of humankind we can't discard scientific truth. the idea that repetitive head cause can potentially long-term brain damage should not be something we have a hard time accepting. yet we did. rose: why were you insisting on her being a part of the project? [laughter]

>> a large part of bennett's journey is his journey as a man. he was incomplete as a man that he knew that he could not fulfill his mission unless he had the right partner. character completed him. ge moment i laid eyes on oogoo, i knew it. peter: in a strange way it is about joy and it is about discovery. his only desire as a pathologist usher these to people across the divide to the

divine, to heaven. solving the riddle of their deaths. our cycle is not complete until we answer the question had a weekend here to the slab. one day he got the body of one of the most mythological football players who ever played, mike webster. he didn't even know who the steelers where even though he lived in pittsburgh. how did this man become homeless and then die so mysteriously? really wanted this man buried. how could you voluntarily not know something? he spiritually stole the brain and figured out that webster had died of a disease that no one had ever seen before. blows, not necessarily consort cautions -- concussions from all those blows

that a football player takes to 79,000 of them. it unlocks a killer protein that moves through the brain like sludge. it is very different from what you would get from boxing. hit, theye they get don't get back in the ring for weeks or months. in football, it is not the knockout blow. is the thousands of little blows. on one play you can take six blows to the head. and you weree out talking about tens of thousands. , their diseases more like als or parkinson's. helmets protect you from the outside. what we're talking about is on the inside.

the brain is in a cavity surrounded by fluid. the balance of the brain within the skull cavity. smith: something that bennett said that was very interesting is that the helmet is part of the problem. he says that in american football because the equipment is so good the helmet is so seemingly protective, that the players feel comfortable using the head is a weapon. in reality, it is not stopping your brain from slamming into the skull. charlie rose: any contradictions for you, any pushback?

peter: we knew what we were walking into. we know that football is not a sport. it is part of the social and cultural fabric of the country. on thanksgiving day we think of the cowboys in the lines. we knew we were walking into a cultural phenomenon. we all stayed true to our mission which was character. wasman that will plays truly one of the most unusual and joyful people. he was so pure spirit. you stay focused on character. the consequences to the sport, that is what is happening around us. what is really

, how iting about bennett try to understand the character. i try to figure out what did they want. we all want lots of things. we all primary desires that most of our life is directed towards. was i found with bennett that he wanted to be accepted as an american. from the time he was a little boy he wanted to be accepted as an american. because he thought that america was the place where god sent all of his favorite people. , he hasng in his life eight degrees. the way that he dressed. was about living up to this spiritual idea of what it means to be an american. he was presented very ironically cte. henowledge of

just happens to be the guy who discovers the disease that the players of america's greatest game get. this was a spiritual mission for him. he had to keep going. he could not stop. theecame how would he earn spiritual right to have all the gifts that he has in his life. deeply faith-based. i wasn't really interested in doing a football movie per se. that is not part of my personal

cultural heritage. the film felt so much bigger than that. in terms of this relationship between his wife and the doctor. both characters coming as immigrants to america. bonding over their shared quest for the american dream. started as needing the support of bennett. their relationship sort of involves in a sort of delicate eccentric way. she breathes humanity into his very scientific world. he is so consumed by his science that she brings a warmth and a human quality to him. she becomes the emotional and moral compass of this journey that he goes on. taking on the nfl.

rose: it sets up this clip where you don't feel adequate to complete the mission. will smith: what i was a boy growing up in nigeria, heaven was here and america was here. never wanted anything as much as i wanted to be except as an american. died in no one asks why. they make fun of him. they insult him. they want to pretend that his disease does not exist. they want to bury me. i am the wrong person to

discover this. ." peter: his wife builds the dream house. she was an intrinsic part of the dream. family and americanness they build a house in a beautiful leafy suburb outside of pittsburgh. a dream house that they have to abandon because he was exiled and destroyed. rose: did you talk it down? peter: we were accused of something. i had no communication with the nfl. didn't want it. we were making a story about this man not about the nfl. charlie rose: you believe they want to do something about concussions? nfl wantselieve the

to protect its bottom line. they will do whatever they have to do to do that. including saying the right things. doing as much as they possibly can. i do believe they are doing as much as it is possible to do to protect the players. the bigger question is the sport in general. whether you can really do something about this or is it just baked into the sport. know andhat we information, as long as a football player knows that this can happen is incumbent upon them to make that decision. it is the same with putting your children into pee-wee or pop warner football. is this something you want to engage in?

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>> the brain is a gelatinous organ. it is protected by being encased in the skull. when we move about and there is minimal movement in the brain.

there can be serious and jarring of the brain. as it moves rapidly back and forth within this enclosed space. it is only separated from this bony inflexible skull by a small layer of fluid. it takes longer to recover when you've had a prior concussion. if you have had one concussion, you are much more likely to have a second. a concussion is not only bad in itself but what it does really for the future of the athlete. that is the: reality. what do you hope comes out of the film? will smith: as a parent i didn't know my son play for.

my son was on the field. he played from age 14 to age 18. i was concerned about him breaking his leg. the big thing was spinal injury. i had no idea. other people also have no idea. it is strictly about the sowledge and the information that people can make informed decisions. rose: if you had to make that decision again? smith: he was really into it. that would be very difficult. i would want him to have the information. we have to have taken decision together.

i would just support him and then make his mother say no. [laughter] it was just me and you know, but you know your mom. [laughter] [laughter] charlie rose: tell me more about the story of the doctor. it is about one man. smith: you have a man who an air raid in the jungles of africa.

this is a man who came from as humble a beginning as possible. he looks to america as a boy. what we stand for. world. have been in the he gets eight degrees. he discovers this disease and almost loses everything. lewis. rose: this is ray ray lewis: they are taking the because diluting it they want to protect their claims. if you leave the game alone, the game will take your itself. this is disgusting to me in college football.

they are now created a term called targeting. ,f a player launches his head that's the first thing on your body, and you collide with their helmet that is targeting. they are kicking babies out of .ames but the referee makes a mistake and they are never punished. you will make these rules. helmets,at we have that's why we have shoulder pads. i'm putting myself in jeopardy of being hurt. that you have to, you have these people sitting at the top and the reason why they and it is oncare

to the next one. charlie rose: what did you think of that? peter: i would be curious to see him revisit that 20 years from now. he may suffer and someone who plays that aggressively. of someone rhetoric who hasn't been inside the family of a man who is the breadwinner and goes through this disease and becomes unrecognizable to themselves and to their children. it is a shocking thing to me. this clip. smith: there is a context to what he was talking about that we are not aware of.

i know ray. we haven't discussed this. as the science is evolving, he can make the decision. he absolutely can make that decision. for himself and for his family. for his kids. i don't want us to appear to be in opposition to that. i want him to have more information so he can make whatever decision maker he wants to make. rose: is this your mission in making this film to responsible for making information available so that everyone understands how concussions happen and what the

impact is? smith: when i had the science explained to me, it was a revelation. simple andit seems , if youwhen you say bang your head 30 times a day for multiple decades of your life, there could be an issue. that makes sense. but when i had the actual science broken down of the way when a brain experiences trauma it releases protein and it experiences a concussion is first the release more protein. it gets locked into that loop of releasing protein. it reaches for a spinal protein which is too big to go through the pipes of your brain.

i had it explained. it became very obvious and very clear to me that human being should never launch his head and another human being for any reason. charlie rose: that is the kind of thing that the nfl should do. peter: i think this film will help that effort. we have commercials for our film on their games. it.el the nfl is embracing charlie rose: are you finding this a more enriching career then journalism?

everything was a rehearsal for filmmaking, which takes the words and the visual and i love working with actors. what i was an investigative journalist and i was across the table from a source who didn't want to give me what they knew, that engagement with actors we can help to bring out something more. smith: what i want from directors? i have had it all. charlie rose: when i first met you you with the fresh prince.

you could never have imagined the career that you have had. will smith: i have been so far beyond my dreams for so many years i have had to hurry up and catch up and dream some new stuff. [laughter] rose: with all the box office success, to create your own films and be a filmmaker. will smith: i have partnered with most directors i've ever worked with. it is a partnership. both financial and otherwise. what i'm experiencing now is an actor, you get to put on a human being. you get to where another human being. in that process you learn about yourself and you learn about them. you learn about human beings, you learn about the world. i am having new

aspirations. new ways to be able to be of service. contribution in the world. bennett ord then muhammad ali or chris gardner and i spent time with nelson mandela, i am deeply inspired by this second half of my life to elevate the quality of my contribution. give and much more to lending my voice to the social conversation in very different ways. i am very inspired. i heard marvin gaye say i have a song inside me i know is great

but i just can't get it out. i feel a bit of that. there is a much greater i amibution inside me that trying to get in touch with. to get it out. charlie rose: did he surprise you? gugu: absolutely. we all know will smith the movie star with his charisma. but in this performance there is such a transformation as bennett and your emotional intelligence and intuitive emotional depth that will goes to in this film i think will surprised a lot of people. in terms of inhabiting this character so entirely. searing truthful intensity that i think i have not seen in

any of the other performances. it was a surprise. you. to see your visits here are all too rare. ♪

charlie rose: it tells the theionally complex story telegraph called the film beautiful and moving. the first time we met she prepositioned me. is there something you'd like to tell me? i'm your wife. i know everything. can i help you with something? we're going to call you lily.lu

we should go out tonight. give them something different. you are exquisite. exactly what happened last night? exist.esn't we were playing a game. way.s lost his he needs a friend. i need my husband. i need to hold my husband. are you all right?

i believe you are woman to. you are my whole life. ♪ charlie rose: what true you to this story? tom: thank you for having me back on the show. i was drawn by this incredible script. that i read in late 2008.

it was the first time i had encountered this story. i had known about the story. i was incredibly moved by the love story at the center of the film. marriagerait of a going through such profound change. it has really been a seven-year journey to move audiences in the same way. when i looked her up on the internet. there was very little about her is since proved to be often inaccurate. i was struck that this extraordinary courageous couple of pioneers had had this story marginalized by history.

a lot of people think christine jorgensen was the first transsexual. people could not believe that 1930 was the first time that it began to happen. when i went to copenhagen even the people in denmark did not seem to know the story. i figure would be at least absolute famous in denmark. it led me to think about the way that history has a tendency to peak in the prejudices of the ise the way that history constructed. there has been decades of prejudices against trans people. those a prizeis that the story of this love has been pushed to the sidelines and forgotten. i wanted the film to redirect attention to this couple. they went through this transition at a time when the

word transgender did not exist. there was no roadmap to transition. the medical establishment consistently apologized this is lockingg that required up or lobotomized. thedid lily emerge than 1920's? the space opened up by the love that this couple shared. now it is beginning to emerge. story iss a great love the question of do you love them enough. hooper: at its center the film becomes an exploration of unconditional love. will she love her husband through this transition?

even if there is a risk of husband.ly as her she is able to commit that love that every stage on flinch in my. see who allows her to her husband truly is. this hidden feminine identity. her love also enjoys an ness.ordinary clear-sighted th s they're in love with the fantasy of the person. this is almost the inverse of .hat she is in love with the concealed self and fights to bring that out. whatever happens to the marriage, that is what happens. imagined to eddie redmayne

when i first read the script seven years ago. sometimes i put actors in my ands eye just a flesh out role. eddie was the person who became lily from that first read. i had the chance to work with them when he was 22 years old. a movie for hbo with irons.irren and jeremy i still remember the scene where he receives his death sentence. the emotional wrongness of his performance was extraordinary. his rigidity. almost emotional transparency. quite rare among english actors. a lot of english actors have so much reserved. eddie had this extraordinary

emotional facility which i went on to explore. rose: this is where she introduces him as lily. >> my darling. introduce lily. >> that is right. his cousin. >> how exquisite. let's go in. come on. tom hooper: we see the very first time lily comes out in

public. timeiencing for the first what it is like to be subject to the male gaze. all the nerves of whether she is passing or blending is a woman. whether people think she is a woman or not. charlie rose: transgender has of beingmarkable sense part of the public conversation. cover of time magazine. when it appeared last year, it was the largest selling edition of time magazine. in the seven years i have been involved with this film, the landscape has changed to an extraordinary degree.

when i started this, people said it is hard to finance, it is too risky, now they say it is timely, it is part of the zeitgeist. .ill soloway's transparent caitlyn jenner's sharing her story so candidly with the world . there has been a tipping point in terms of transgender stories breaking out into the mainstream but obviously there is a huge the way to go to fulfill transgender rights. as same march of progress civil rights. charlie rose: you didn't want lily to be seen as the other? tom hooper: i thought eddie would be great is because i never wanted lily to be other to

the audience. to be made strange or foreign. go on the journey in such an intimate emotional way that the journey, the emergence of lily becomes inevitable. film youwatch the understand that he doesn't have a choice. you go on a journey step for .tep, each for eddie has an amazing ability to reveal the inner workings of his emotions. hooper: i was lucky enough with the box office of the miserablesch and les that i could get this project made. my seven-year involvement makes

me a bit of a newcomer. the producer has been trying to get this made since 2000. the obstacles they faced as producers speaks to the kind of climate toward transgender stories that i have witnessed and now it is starting to shift. rose: do you select based on some rhythm of your own? i just did a comedy so i will do a drama. tom hooper: to me it has been taking the best scripts. i have to fall in love with the project in order to go on the tenacious journey that you have to go on to get a film made. when i look back on the three films i have made most recently, the king's speech and the danish

girl both come from a similar part of my life. all of us have blocks between us and the best version of ourselves or the true version of ourselves. they could be shyness or insecurity. it could be an addiction. it could be stammering, like in the king's speech. it could be being brutalized and eaning yourself like jumb valjean. but to not identify with the gender you were assigned as birth, i can't imagine a more substantial block. the way that lily is loved seems to unlock something in that marriage.

it is transformative. the priest giving sean bell valjean chance, and he rededicate his life to love and faith. in this film the love that surrounds lily makes possible transformation. the transformative power of love. tell anyone who is blocked anyway in their life, if they are lucky enough to be loved, then they have some chance of transformation. what an extraordinary couple of years she has had. it is quite a challenge when you have eddie redmayne to find the actress who can go one-on-one with him. would pushmeone who eddie to a new level. put pressure on him.

anna seen her in at a kareni and i saw her in a royal affair. how lucky for me to have a genuine scandinavian at the center of the film to bring that scandinavian strengthen freedom becomeght've more and in which movie but she brought that energy in. she came into audition with eddie in may. me.

lily the day after the ball. testirst take the screen was so moving. eddie turned to me and said there is no great suspense about who you're going to cast now. [laughter] rose: did you do a hooper: i didom just to pretend that i was being objective. i was with her when she got the golden globe nomination. she was in tears and calling her mom. together you forget how young she is. she is 26. background is very

interesting. she comes from a ballet background. you're not scared of repetition because in dance you don't get to be above mediocre without a lot of repetition. of doesn't have that sort superstitious sense that if they do it too many times they will lose the essence of it. englishipline to learn to the point where she speaks unaccented english as someone who grew up in sweden. charlie rose: what are you going ?o make next tom hooper: unfortunately i can't announce it on the show as i would like to. rose: is directing everything you hoped it would be? tom hooper: i had the london premiere last week at leicester square. built in the 1930's.

a ritual as a child. i dreamed that one day i would have a film on that screen. to be introducing my film at that very cinema i felt an extraordinary connection to the 12-year-old inside of me. the dream of a 12-year-old. and he was right. i wondered after the success of the king's speech whether i would say now i have done that and i would be restless. was so happy just to be doing the things i always dreamed of doing. i started making films at 12. of, you have to have the stamina of the belief that you can do it. charlie rose: is great to have

you here. hooper: thank you charlie. ♪ ♪

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