>> i'm mark halperin. john: and i'm john heilemann. and with all due respect to all the other candidates here in iowa, today, yet again, it is all about the donald. john: happy donald trump did what day, sports fans. iowa caucus mission control, the downtown des moines marriott. lee political world is still in a frothy lather after donald trump's announcement yesterday that he does not intend to take part in the foxnews debate here tomorrow.

the donald makes his decision from a position of strength, according to a brand new online poll with our partners at purple strategies. leaves -- leads the field with 34%, trailed by marco rubio at 14% and ted cruz at 12%. one bit of not so good news -- 71% of voters -- and that is a lot of voters -- say they could still change their mind. you can find the full results at bloombergpolitics.com. rush limbaugh said "in this business, when the media calls, you answers, and when the immediate wants you, you go." trump is so far outside this game, the rules. he's never been a player. from an altogether different perspective, even josh earnest, the white house press secretary, couldn't resist weighing in from the briefing room.

>> the president himself noted that he was not a big fan of participating in presidential debates, but he never backed out of the debate two days before it was scheduled to be held. i think that demonstrates his own commitment to the process and making good on one's commitments. john: so you have limbaugh and earnest. more importantly, his rivals -- listen to chris christie, who had this to say on boston herald radio today. >> listen, i think that donald trump is making a big mistake. i think anytime you get a podium and microphone with 20 million people watching in election campaign you should take it. he's not going to do that. i'm glad he's not coming from my perspective, more time for the rest of us on the stage. john: marco rubio, rand paul also had things to say, chiming in by criticizing the move.

mark, 24 hours since trump dropped this bombshell. how do you think the decision is looking the next day? mark: my initial impulse was that it was good for him. he doesn't need the debate, so it will be about beating up ted cruz. trump does best, like most, when he is acting from his heart and gut, and he was insulted by fox news. since then, i was talking to one of the smartest people i know who covers politics and said this could be a big mistake, but i am not convinced. iowans might mind under other circumstances. john: as you know, my initial reaction was that there are risks, and i still think there are risks. not because the people of iowa will be insulted, because i don't think the actual people care as much as we do. but you're basically saying you will not use this to expand any support. that is counteracted by the fact that every other network will

cover this event. i think by and large the same thing you think -- one day later, what has not happened is the world has not come crashing down. mark: no one has come after him -- john: he was praised for being strong, and it is looking he's bigger than foxnews. mark: his supporters like him when he is big. and there have been plenty of debates. i don't think people will say you didn't debate enough. all right. donald trump has been feuding with megyn kelly since last summer, but what pushed them over the edge last night was a very unusual statement that foxnews put out from its press shop yesterday. after trump went on twitter for a poll of his followers asking if you should skip it, fox issued a remarkably snarky retort that he would look to his followers for foreign-policy advice. he's going on with bill o'reilly tonight, but all day foxnews did

not cover the controversy nearly as much as we watched it. fox would love to have trump at the debate, obviously. how much blame to they deserve for losing him? john: pretty much all of it. i like to occasionally annoy my liberal friends and try to maintain the idea that fox news is a news organization, even though they have a clear ideological slant. this is nothing that any news organization would do. mark: or should do. john: it's a ridiculous thing to have done. i can't imagine what got into someone's mind to think this was an appropriate thing to do to any of the participants of the debate, let alone the front runner. john: and they are keeping at it. megyn kelly says, quote, "it would probably be a bad decision to not show up at the fox debate." she should not be commenting on -- as a moderator on the

political strategy. fox says they were threatened by donald trump. if you're a news organization, you don't get involved in fighting with the people you cover. and you don't mock the people you cover. that's what it was. it was funny, maybe, opinions will vary, but openly mocking the people you cover is not what the business should be in, especially if you are hosting a debate which is supposed to be a neutral platform. mark: fox should not let any candidates pick who the moderators are. but they've put themselves in a position where if they want trump, they will have to give something up. they will not remove megyn kelly, nor should they, but if they want him, they will have to grovel. again, they put themselves in this position. john: trumps behavior with megyn kelly was inexcusable. he was wrong, he should have been criticized. he was out of bounds in that area when he said those things. none of that have to do with

this instance, with fox tweaking him in a way they should not behave. mark: they thought they had the last word and now it has been downgraded. john: the republican party said today that there will not be an empty chair tomorrow. there was some discussion about that, and after ted cruz came out and challenged trump to a one-on-one debate, the donald tweeted, "can we do it in canada?" cheeky. you speculated that there is a chance he could change his mind at the last minute and show up. you've been hinting at that, it would discombobulated his rivals. what do you think at this moment are the ways in which this debate debacle could play out? mark: i think ted cruz comes into this having cured his mind up to say this is a confrontation and now he has to think about who will come after him.

rubio is going to come after him, and i think none of them know of the dynamic is. i do believe that trump has the power and influence -- fox's says farewell not be an empty podium, but they will have one to wheel out. john: how much does this decision impact the readings of the debate? you don't know. we assume viewers will be other channels to check out the alternative event. that's one question. how small will the audience be? the second thing i think is clear is that the main impact is on ted cruz. the two front runners could have assumed they would get a bunch of attacks, and now everyone will be focused on cruz. last night in his hotel, after we got back from the trump

event, the whole cruz contingent rolled in and there was no doubt that they were discombobulated. they were talking about throwing the debate prep book out, what to do now. we know we are the target. mark: and it is also the target of the moderators. john: if this was part of trump's game to mess with ted cruz, which obviously was, he succeeded. mark: coming up next, our breakfast with ben carson, and bernie sanders pays a visit to casablanca. we will be back. ♪

mark: bernie sanders did something unusual -- he took a

break from campaigning in the run-up to the caucuses to go to washington and have a private meeting with president obama at the white house. it comes a day after he drew an estimated 20,000 people to a couple of campaign stops in minnesota yesterday. there was no reprieve, though, even with him out of the state, between team sanders and team clinton. a story quoted a sanders advisor, saying that the campaign may start running negative ads against clinton, who was already trying to raise money off of those quotes. sanders talked with lester holt about his chances in iowa. >> what is your bar for success in iowa? >> winning. >> number one. >> yeah. we have worked very hard in iowa. we started off later than secretary clinton did. she had a ground organization in place before we did. she has more money in the bank than we do. but in the last number of

months, we have put together an incredible volunteer effort. we have some 15,000 volunteers. and let me be clear -- caucus night in iowa, you will be able to tell very early, i think, who wins and who loses. if there's a large voter turnout, we will win. mark: the democrats have the own debate about debates. sanders declined to participate in a last-minute, unsanctioned debate in new hampshire nbc was putting together. clinton said in an interview, after sanders declined, with chris matthews, something that will be on "hardball" tonight. >> what i said to my campaign is that i would look forward to another debate. i'm anxious if we can get something set up, to be able to be there.

let's try to make it happen. like the chair of the democratic party to clear -- approved the debate next week? >> i would like them to agree that they can debate from new hampshire next week. that is what i hope will happen. mark: clinton has a new ads up here in iowa that are not quite negative, but certainly have some contrast. john, lots of back and forth between these two. who do you think is fearing it -- faring the best? john: sanders is faring best. he gets to be at the white house, which is the makeup of the favor. getting that invitation is very good. mark: why do you think the white house agreed, given the timing? john: i think they realize the president made a mistake going as far as he did with clinton.

got a little over his skis on it. you got a little over his skis, and they felt they owed it to the sanders campaign. mark: clinton had one of her best ads of the cycle, and as she said yesterday, the team is much less off-balance. john: i agree with that. mark: i will say that the sanders white house is, to me, psychologically a big deal, and it puts the brakes on her big thing she has been pushing, which is that she is the heir to obama. john: i'm sticking with my position on sanders winning the last 24 hours. she has looked good challenging him on this debate question, it's clear she needs this debate in new hampshire. mark: voters are obsessed with debates. john: i'm just saying, she looks like she is calling for more discussion. just as the democratic race in iowa is essentially a two-person contest -- sorry about that,

governor o'malley -- the republican side has also looks like a head-to-head matchup. donald trump versus ted cruz for the top spot on caucus night, with everyone else fighting for the bronze medal at best. at a bloomberg politics breakfast in this room, hosted by our esteemed colleague al hunt, ben carson had some things to say about that conventional wisdom. >> i what you guys on monday night or tuesday morning to remember what i'm about to tell you right now. you're going to be surprised. [laughter] >> what is surprising? >> the surprise is that there will be people who will do a whole lot better than you think. >> yourself included? >> myself included. john: mark, ben carson -- is he right about the possibility that there will be a big surprise, not just in terms of who wins? are we all going to wake up and be like, wow? mark: i don't think it is

likely. we asked him why would the polls the undercounting your support? he said i have a lot of new , people. trump has a lot of new people. cruz has a lot of new people. john: you call, you find new people. mark: i do think, though, that cruz and trump are not conventional front runners. i think in the end, i wouldn't be surprised if somebody ended with 10 points higher than they are currently at. i think there is enough flux. in the establishment line, there is still a time of establishment vote unaccounted for. john: here's the biggest potential surprise. marco rubio somehow faults --

vaults over ted cruz. i'm not saying it is likely, that that is the 1 -- in rubio world, you are hearing people -- mark: the way that happens is -- the establishment candidates have nothing going on. if they collapse, rubio could jump up. coming up, legendary journalist and a great man, tom brokaw, joins us after this. ♪

>> on this monday night, iowa maintains its tradition of delivering surprises. it's launching a platform for some, and a trapdoor for others. tonight, it is a launching platform for the republican side, where senator bob dole, who was an impressive victory -- newsman tomas nbc's

brokaw circa 1988. some things never change. mr. brokaw, it's great to have you here. let me ask you -- as i look at that picture, that's a younger -- not necessarily more handsome -- >> i was about to call security. john: how many caucuses have you recovered? >> for the first one. 1980 i didn't get here for the famous jimmy carter caucus, but i came for everyone else. john: as you look back on all of them, what's the most memorable of the caucuses you covered? >> this will be, in my judgment. this is the wildest time i can remember. the other one was howard dean, all the way up to saturday night, looked like he would pull it off. john: in 2004. >> and he finished in third 24 hours later. it has always been a cautionary tale to me. iowans decide -- a fewer number

than people expect go to the caucus, but this time it is jump ball. i was looking at join,, the great running back for the dallas cowboys, and a sports writer said -- this is the ultimate game. he said, "if it is, while they play it again next year?" [laughter] mark: this event gets criticized more than new hampshire because of the caucus and the participation being lower. for people who don't have an appreciation -- forget the downside of iowa. tell people why you think this is a great part of how we think -- we pick a president. >> i think we need to kick it off. i think that people are ready to have the first contest. i have been doing a story about is iowa the right place to have the first contest. i've always been persuaded that, all things considered, it is a good place to start. john: explain what the upside is for the rest of the country. why is it fitting and proper that we let them have the first crack at it. >> they take it very seriously.

it's middle america, and touches on a lot of economic bases. a lot of people don't realize that insurance is an banking -- as is banking are almost as big as agriculture. des moines is a booming urban area, a perfect example of what's happening in small and large cities. i have a geographic prejudice because i grew up here, and people take it seriously. if it were up to me, i would put iowa, south carolina, and new hampshire in the first week. that way you get a regional representation as well as a cultural representation. john: all in the first week? >> that's never going to fly. they won't get it done. i did a paper at harvard about dividing the country up by time zones, and having a drawing every year. we have all the states of the -- states, and the mountain time

zone then central, then the , eastern, then the mountain time zone. that is not going to happen. i do think a lot of iowa is driven by us. we make it important. mark: they build it, we come. we don't just put on an extra coat of paint. is donald trumpt news of the announcing he will not do the fox news debate before the caucuses. there's been a a lot of discussion about that in the last 24 hours. >> and he loves it. john: some of it has gone to media criticism, and people are saying -- you know what, it is the news media that has empowered donald trump. they have fallen down on the job, they allow this to occur. let's say you to the quest -- what say you? >> i think we have had a part in that. a lot of people understand, and

i have sent to the people who come after me look, we put , donald trump on and everyone listens and the ratings go up. we're not doing it just for our own ratings, because there is a real interest in what he is about. what is more striking to me is that he can say things that are patently not true, 20,000 muslims in new jersey celebrating -- clearly not true. note dent whatsoever. dent whatsoever. there's this constant examination. this decision on his part, i saw him at lunch -- they were all jacked about the endorsements. this may have been a late decision, and i'm sure it was almost all of his part. in the middle of the night i woke up and thought, i wonder if he is playing stallball. i wonder if he figures he has a place locked up and i want to take a chance on cruz. he does know he will dominate the news cycle until tomorrow night, and if he says at the last second, you know what, i

will show up. he has owned us for the last 30 hours by doing that. he's going to create a lot of attention for himself when he walks on to that stage. john: you have met a lot of people all over the world. can you think of anybody who is like trump? italy.usconi in that is probably the closest example. was a pretty wildcat as well. mark: when did you first meet donald trump? >> i met him on "the today show," when he took down that building. there were some beautiful bas-relief places on the façade, and he broke them up and send them away. mark: that got him on "the today show?" >> he couldn't understand why everyone was upset. these were important parts of new york historical precedents, about how they built things.

he put up the big gold "t." he has been a self promoter as long as i have known him. he said recently after i did that as say about the muslims, never liked tom brokaw. never cared for. he is to say to me, come and spend a week and mara lago. john: got a cut you off, sorry. coming up, the democratic and republican party heads, after this. ♪

mark: we have added two chairs to the set because the chairs are here. dr. andy mcguire and jeff

kaufman, the head of the iowa's republican party. thank you for joining us. it has been a big last several days for you. a lot of americans will be watching us for the first time. describe what caucus night will be like on the democratic side. explain the logistics and the layout. >> it is going to be a great night. you have to go to your precinct and you can find that location. go with your friends and neighbors and talk about the three candidates. mark: they range in size from how small to how large? andy: sometimes a couple of people and sometimes hundreds of people. mark: chairman kaufman, on the republican side, the rules are little bit different. described for people what

happens if you show up at a caucus. >> each one of the candidates will have somebody designated to say some great things about them. a lot of times a little conversation. mark: time-limited speeches? >> each county precinct can set their own rules. typically a few minutes. some conversation and then the vote. john: what have you done to prepare for eventualities of things that could go wrong? andy: we have done a lot of testing. jeff and i worked together on that. microsoft is working with us on a mobile app. we make sure -- 1681 precincts for both of us. we make sure we have all those packets out, chairs, a lot of moving parts and we just keep testing and testing and retesting. john: a lot of technology involved. your party had some difficulties four years ago. talk about how you have addressed those particular problems that riddled the process.

jeff: our microsoft app is going to be key to transparency. most important thing i think we have done over 300 trainings, , this is an all volunteer led caucus. we have trained and re-trained and re-trained our folks there on the ground to make sure we get the results back to the microsoft app. second thing, i am not going to make a call in terms of who won if it is too close. back in 2012, it was one of the closest elections in american history. i'm not going to make that call. the final thing, and this is the most important reform we made, 48 hours, we will verify everything with the paper trail. in 48 hours, there will be an official count. john: what is the standard for so close that you would not make a call? jeff: last time, it was 34 votes out of 120,000.

i guess i will be talking to the people advising me very carefully before i go out there. john: fewer than a thousand votes? you would say -- jeff: i think so. this is the beauty of the mobile app. the media is going to see exactly what andy and i see. in many ways, you can draw the same conclusions or different conclusions than what the party has made. mark: one of the criticisms of iowa is the turnout is not robust. you got three candidates. you have more than that. what do you see out there that might lead to a higher turnout? jeff: there is a big difference between a caucus and primary. you can expect a little bit more -- a little bit lower turnout. mark: has your party done anything? jeff: the candidates being here and everything surrounding what the caucuses are about.

the intensities, the fights, and the elbows. mark: have you seen a lot of republicans not involved in politics engaged by donald trump? jeff: in my office, nonstop calls. literally, seconds between these calls. last night, i was there between 7:00 p.m. and 11:00 p.m. how do i caucus? where is my caucus site? where do i go? sometimes they are making sure the party is fair, nothing rigged, all those things. more activity than a lot of the old-timers have seen ever. you have not had a caucus here for eight years. last time, it it was historic. what is your sense of how it will go? >> i do think we will have a good turnout. to your question it is about , organization.

we have three great organizations and they are all over the state. you see people everywhere. you see fieldworkers for all of them. it is that organization that is going to help our turnout. mark: what is the one thing you'd worry about most? andy: snow. mark: you don't like snow? >> when he talked about the volunteers, we have a lot of moving parts that night and they are run by volunteers. they are very conscientious. they want to do a great job. if they cannot get to their places or get other people to their precincts, it is a hard thing for them. mark: what time will you wake up on caucus morning? jeff: i do not know if i will sleep. it depends on how long you folks leave us alone and let us sleep. mark: we will not let you sleep very long. might as well through some coffee. mark: -- might as well through some coffee. mark: andy mcguire, jeff kaufman, thank you. we go on the ground with two campaigns. the marco rubio campaign and the

ted cruz campaign. ♪

john: that was a marco rubio event last night. that was broken down afterwards in a matter of minutes. griffin hammon followed the teams of both marco rubio and ted cruz. he documented the ground operation. here is what they look like. ♪ >> 151 hours. that is how long remains until the iowa caucuses. >> six days from right now, you should be arriving at your

caucus place. don't be late. [laughter] >> the future and destiny of america could be decided monday night in iowa. it is either donald trump or ted cruz. >> i don't believe iowa can be one from a manhattan tv studio. >> several of the things we considered going through with trump, they were always big events. they were never in the small coffee shops. whereas ted cruz is more grassroots than donald trump is. >> i told him we would be praying for him. this is our first time to really be involved in the caucus. [applause] >> i will be here until all of you are gone. i will stay here for as long as it takes to shake every hand, kiss every baby, sign every book. >> there are a lot of undecided voters in iowa. we will get marco around the state this weekend. >> will you be caucusing for senator rubio on monday?

>> i am prepared to support marco rubio. >> i committed to marco rubio tonight. i just like what he has to say. >> we are continuing our bus tour across the state of iowa. the iowa caucuses are 147 hours from now. commit today to come out next monday and caucus. >> i thought it was pretty humbling for ted cruz to walk into the old church in a small town, come in here dressed down like we were and kick it with us for about 20 minutes. >> monday, i plan to go out to the caucus and support ted cruz. she was kind of on the fence coming in here today. >> i have been a huge ben carson lover. i have kind of been in favor of marco rubio. so this kind of seals the deal for me.

>> we have over 12,000 volunteers in the state of iowa. we are making over 20,000 phone calls a day. our volunteers are reaching out to voters. >> you will see a get out the vote effort on the part of the ted cruz campaign that we have not seen on the part of republicans ever. >> even if it is cold, even if it is snowing, we have to get out. >> hopefully by the end of this event, we have your support. please fill out one of these commitment cards. >> we plan to support marco at the caucus. >> we have been working hard for the last time months. it is a huge effort. it takes a lot of volunteers. especially over the last 2-3 months, as people decide they want to support marco, those numbers have ramped up a lot. >> we will not bombard you with e-mail. we will bombard you with e-mails for five more days. [laughter] >> you will show up next monday night, 7:00, sit through an hour

meeting, write down marco rubio on that piece of paper. that is all we are asking. >> someone my age you has three kids, i have to find a babysitter to go to the meeting for 2-3 hours. it might cost me $40 to $50 to go caucus. butime is always an issue, we will make time because it is important. >> it does not seem like a difficult thing. >> this is the time for the men and women of iowa to bring others. if everyone of you gets nine other people to show up at caucus, you will have voted 10 times. that is how we win. >> vote 10 times. i think that is a tremendous idea. >> i think it would be really tough to drag them with you. to say, you will go with me and we will vote for the same guy. i am not sure that is realistic. >> commit today to come out next

monday night and caucus for us. stand up and speak for us. >> when you caucus next monday night, we must choose a nominee for this party that wins. and i will win. >> god bless the great state of iowa. >> thank you very much. mark: our thanks to griffin hammon, brilliant -- brilliant tour. ♪

mark: donald trump's alternative plan during the debate tomorrow night is a bit

more concrete. thursday night at 9:00, the exact same time the debate begins, trump plans to do a benefit for veterans organizations. he will do that instead of the debate. at least as of now. we will talk about that in a minute with our colleagues. we also want to set up an important topic, money being spent on television ads. a lot is being spent here in iowa to influence the outcome. you see organizations advertising across the board, nonstop. to get some interesting facts, here is ken goldstein to crunch the numbers. ♪ ken: when all is said, $77 million will be spent on old media to influence the half a million iowans who will attend the caucus on february 1. $72 million of that will be on

tv. republicans have spent $50 million. $41 million coming from gop groups, not candidates. pro jeb bush super pac right to rise leads and spending with $15 million. the the bush campaign had not spent any money at all. the two front runners had a late start. donald trump spent $3.6 million. ted cruz, $2.1 million. on the democratic side, the sanders and clinton campaigns are about equal. democrats on tv are all positive. republicans are getting a bit more chip he as we close in on the finish line, but overall, the big dollars are not backing negative ads. even in an age of new media, lots of dollars in old media. mark: our thanks to ken goldstein. to talk about advertising and everything else, our bloomberg

politics colleagues. welcome. john, we start with you. what is your sense of how the ted cruz campaign feels about all these negative ads and where they stand coming into the home stretch? >> you guys have done a nice job with the place. this used to be a bar called pitchers. everybody is under attack right now in the state of iowa. ted cruz has made bp too early. we thought he was doing so well three weeks ago. he seemed to have the situation under control. he has come under attack from trump since then. there is just tons of advertising, yet there is so much noise in the state. you have to wonder how much of it is getting through to voters.

the candidates are here, the media is here, the advertising going a lot of competition for , those ears right now. >> do you think there is a chance that cruz could slip out of second place? >> i don't see that happening. i think the social conservatives are going to be there for cruz. donald trump has managed to peel some of those away. john: what is going on with barack obama, hillary clinton, and bernie sanders? this event today, the choreography, the podcast. just give us a whole overview on that. >> it could be this delicious conspiracy. president obama gets out over his skis on hillary clinton more than he wanted to. he has to walk it back. president obama is trying to get bernie sanders to change his mind on the fda nominee. it is just as likely that it is less sexy. the president met with hillary

at the white house and he needs fairness to meet with bernie sanders. mark: does he need to meet with them a couple of days before the caucuses? >> it is either that or after the caucus. mark: i feel like they should've gotten to schedule a couple of months ago. hillary clinton's bowling alley event. >> hillary clinton went to a bowling alley today. she did not actually bold. mark: pac-man, space invaders? >> she just did her stump speech, shaking a lot of hands. were people bowling while she was there. >> there was no bowling to be had. i did not see a single bowling ball in the place. mark: what is the body language of her people? are they unsettled? >> i think they feel ok.

they have been putting a lot of weight into the organization more than the candidate. she has been doing a solid job on the stump. she has been for the most part doing the same job. she got most fired up today in version, johnson controls. perfect for bloomberg. we bailed out this auto company and then they decide they are not even going to pay u.s. taxes anymore. it was populist fire that seemed a lot like what bernie sanders does. that was maybe the most part awful moment she has had in the last couple of days on the stop. stump.he john: there is this debate, think about all of these other republicans. what are they thinking now on the eve of the most important republican debates.

how does the donald trump thing screwed up their plans? >> i think it creates a problem for cruz because everybody is going to be coming after him if trump is not on the stage. it is still possible that trump shows up. i do not think you can have all of your trump attack lines permanently put away in the briefcase. the ted cruz will be the number one receiver of attacks if trump is not on the stage and rubio will try to make a mark. he has done well in all of the previous debates. he's got pretty good scores in the debates. rubio will try to shine and who knows, maybe nudge ted cruz out of second place. it seems unlikely. mark: do you get the sense that people are having fun out there? candidates and staff? or are they getting nervous and as monday approaches? >> i think bernie sanders is

having fun. >> i think they are just trying to pack in as many events as possible. if there is some fun along the way, that is fine. fieldworkers are having a lot of fun, volunteers. john: let me ask you about this debate debate between sanders and clinton. it seems totally cynical to me. both of the candidates want to have debates in places where they think it will help them. do you think ultimately there will be a resolution where everybody gives, or will this be a stalemate? >> i think it is going to be a stalemate. i think debbie wasserman schultz and the executive director do

not want to go in the direction of adding more. they have been out on a limb for a long time. that is where they are. mark: enjoy your time out on the stump covering everybody. we will be right back with figuring out who won the day. ♪

john: it is the end of another day. we know who won the day. that would be donald j trump. who else won today? think, trump one this day so decisively.

he just tweeted out something moments ago to clarify that he is not not doing the debate because of megyn kelly or the press release. which is what he said yesterday. it is important for him to stay on that message. he needs the justification. people have underestimated the event is doing to benefit veterans rather than sitting at home. john: bernie sanders won the day for getting to go to the white house. we are live on the tv and live 24/7 at bloombergpolitics.com. mark: thank you for watching. don't forget that if you are watching us in washington, you can listen to us on 99.1. until tomorrow from here in des moines, thank you for watching. sayonara. ♪

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here is little in the extended session. when it comes to men versus machine, google said there is only one winner. that is its artificial intelligence program, and human game displays. now they are taking over the world. follow me on twitter. that is my handle. trendingrget to use # business as well. gradually green, raising some of the equity benchmarks at the start. here is the line. yvonne: things are looking a little better in the last half hour. jakarta coming online pretty much flat. 1%.ghai stock of 1/10 of two days of losses, a lot of pressure in the last two days. looking a little bit better now. hang seng up a 10th of 1%.