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john: i'm john heilemann. mark: i'm mark halperin. with all due respect to john kasich, no use fighting with the media. good evening from snowed-in new hampshire. a granite classic day. snowy roads have caused donald trump and other presidential candidates have to cancel or delay campaign events. in our studio in manchester. we will go over a lot with you tonight. sanders and clinton are speaking to over 5000 party activists in a dinner tonight across the street from here. donald trump gets to join his colleagues on the republican debate stage tomorrow night. there is a blizzard of new
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polling data out. john: oh, man. mark: a new survey shows donald trump out in front with 30% in new hampshire followed by marco rubio at 17, up six points for the florida senator since last month's survey. in this poll, as in others in new hampshire, chris christie remains stubbornly in sixth place. nationally, there is a quinnipiac poll showing a three-person race with trump leading, followed by cruz and rubio. everybody else far back in single digits. based on the totality of our polling, there is a clear sense that marco rubio still seems to be rising. which brings us to two scenarios worth exploring. to get ahead of next week's primary, what happens if trump wins in new hampshire?
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then there's a second scenario. what are the implications if marco rubio somehow wins this primary? let's start with the trump scenario. john: if he wins, he is back. back and flush and pink. and rolls with a head of steam to south carolina. mark: trump wins, he is the man to beat again. he is going to have to perform. he did not win iowa after being ahead in the polls. he needs to win new hampshire. if he wins, he resurges. the other scenario we want to talk about is marco rubio winning. if you look at the public data, you will say there is no chance. lots of private data suggest trump headed down, rubio headed up. i'm not a math genius. the lines could cross. john: it's the case everyone agrees that marco rubio is rising. a lot of republicans saying that trump is falling but the public data is not bearing that out. mark: rubio may have risen.
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it is not clear he is still rising. john: if rubio wins, maybe there is space for another establishment candidate. john kasich finishes a strong third, you get two establishment tickets out of new hampshire. but maybe not. marco rubio would quickly become the establishment alternative consensus candidate if he were to topple trump, it would make life hard for the others. mark: the only one. first, he becomes the most likely republican nominee on the strength of winning this primary. john: maybe. if the old rules apply. john: for the third day in a row, ted cruz's campaign has faced allegations his campaign --
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i'm going to try a new topic. ready for this? go back to the marco rubio scenario. it is anything but a foregone conclusion that his surge will carry him to a victory. there's a strategy to knee cap him. the best example today came from jeb bush. jeb bush: he was speaker of the house and he did a fine job there, but every speaker before him in after him that won is supporting me. three statewide elected officials in florida are supporting me. it is not that they do not like marco. it is they saw me in action as a leader. they want leadership. >> did he accomplish nothing in the senate? jeb bush: nothing. the list he put out has been debunked not just by me, by
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other people. john: we've seen marco rubio's foes employ a number of different varieties of ammo. the question is whether bush has found the magic bullet. mark: i've been asking the other campaigns -- bush camp, kasich camp, christie camp -- what will take rubio down. no one has real answers. people are trying different things. this thing about he does not have accomplishments. some people think that is not going to break through. that is too complicated for voters. he's a united states senator. i believe that part of what marco rubio is having so many different things thrown at him that nothing is going to break through. john: there is some constellation of things i think that people believe. the hollow man theory. somehow the lack of experience,
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lack of accomplishment, the youth, all of that stuff -- mark: he impresses the crowd with his great speeches. john: i think immigration -- it is always ballyhooed in the republican party but it never takes anybody down. the constellation -- the theory may be wrong. candidates are circling around. mark: three governors and former governors, they look at marco rubio and say that that guy has never done a thing. they believe in their gut, it's obvious to them that -- for marco rubio to be a nominee to beat hillary clinton they cannot fathom that may not break through with voters. john: i say punk. they have the same view that hillary clinton had of barack obama. man of no accomplishment. mark: for the third day in a row ted cruz's campaign has faced allegations that his team -- misled iowans by suggesting to them that carson was planning to leave the race. campaign voicemails have the surface reflecting some aggressive campaign tactics by team cruz.
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the flap is still a conversation on cable television. the cruz campaign is having to answer questions about this. is that something that could hurt him here or beyond new hampshire? john: his upside is limited in new hampshire. it is not like he will not finish in the top three, maybe even finish worse according to public polling. i think it will increase the scrutiny in on them as they get to other states like south carolina, nevada, and the southern states. there will be a lot of people with a microscope on the cruz operation and make sure they do not try to do the things they are alleged to do in iowa. mark: politics -- beanbag. we are headed into south carolina.
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they may be worried that if they engage in the normal politics they would engage in, all of a sudden there is a different standard for ted cruz. puts him off message. you can bet the other campaigns are going to keep this up, because it is occupying ted cruz. john: the voicemail stuff is bad. before they could muddy up the waters, what did cnn report? but there is now audio. if he was in the top contention, looking like a first or second -- this would be a bigger problem for him. it is a little below the radar but a think it could come back when we get to these other states. mark: absolutely. barbara pierce bush, the former first lady, wife of george h.w. the mother of w and jeb made a cameo on the campaign trail today along with a charming turn on "good morning america." barbara bush: i would say why don't you interrupt like the other people do? yes, i would say that. jeb bush: i got better at interrupting. come on. barbara bush: he's so polite. he does not brag, like some people i know. >> who are you talking about? barbara bush: i can't remember. i'm not getting into a spitting match with him.
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john: nora o'donnell doing that interview. this is one of the first moves that appears to be the 11th hour rollout in the bush family brand by jeb. his brother will campaign in south carolina and his super pac has featured 43 in a new ad on the palmetto state airwaves. george w. bush: i know jeb. jeb will unite our country. he knows how to bring the world together against terror, he knows when tough measures must be taken. experience and judgment count in the oval office. john: jeb has wrestled with the question of whether or not to play the dynasty card. he's now playing it. will it help or hurt him? mark: it will help them in the abstract, assuming that voters are still open to jeb bush. other campaigns claim that bush has no chance to surge. there is public polling that suggest he has moved up.
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female voters, older voters, national security voters may look at the endorsement of his mother and brother and remind them selves that this is a brand that served the party well. he is right to play it. as voters shop around, this may be a good play for him. john: my view has always been with all candidates, you play the hand you are dealt. mitt romney, he passed obamacare. marco rubio -- play that hand. i always thought jeb bush should come up with an answer but more or less use his family. you cannot run from the bush family. it would've been smarter to play this card earlier. i do not know if it is going to help him. mark: there is no question within the republican party there is more bush fatigue. this coming at the last minute probably not the smartest idea, but i do think it will help. if he has a chance, this will
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help them get where he needs to be. john: when we come back. mark: can hillary clinton close the gap and the granite state? we will talk about the state of the democratic race after this word from our sponsors. ♪
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john: last night on msnbc, hillary clinton and bernie sanders were back on the campaign trail today. for clinton, it was an event in manchester featuring other prominent female politicians such as governor maggie hassan and senator jeanne shaheen. sanders held multiple events, including the unveiling of an endorsement of the former naacp president. the highlight comes this evening when hillary and bernie both are speaking at a democratic party dinner across the street from where we are sitting now. their last real face-off before the primary and it will take place in front of 6000 chanting democratic activists. this spasm of activity comes against the backdrop of new polling that shows sanders maintaining a lead over clinton, up 9 percentage points, if you believe the new boston globe poll or maybe even as much as points if you believe this new
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cnn/wmur poll. on top of all that, we also have a new quinnipiac national survey that has clinton and sanders now statistically tied for the national, the national all over america lead. with four days to go before the primary, where does the democratic race now stand? mark: the best thing that happened to hillary clinton this week is the poll showing sanders coming up 30. it is killing his expectations. there have been to polls from two separate organizations showing him up 30. he probably has a big lead but not 30. i think hillary clinton is fighting against expectations. she is showing herself to be a fighter, which is key for her. i think, between natural tightening, between the expectations game, and between
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the fact that clinton still has time to make up ground and clinton is good at making up ground in new hampshire, she could get close enough to avoid this being a huge -- john: i will tell you something about this weekend. bernie sanders is going to go to new york city. and be on "saturday night live." make an appearance. larry david is on the show. hillary clinton is going to flint, michigan. there is something about this sanders thing on snl i'm careful about because there is a little shades of barack obama 2008. a little flying too close to the sun. icharus. the wax wings. she, hillary clinton, that is a hard-core democratic thing. go to flint. side with people who are harmed. mark: loren michaels is a hard card carrying liberal.
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john: it is elite versus working class. there is a chance she is flying low. he's flying too close to the sun. that might come back to haunt him. i love larry david. mark: i'm looking forward to having him on. he should've done it later when there was a national contest. john: this is my point. it is a little risky. it seems self-indulgent, to celebratory. mark: they were both great in the debate last night. the dinner tonight is not going to get as much national attention happening on a friday night. in new hampshire, it will get a lot of attention. 6000 activists that will -- this will interesting to see. sanders has gotten better as a debater. he basically can sit toe to toe. let's see tonight. i've yet to see them do a joint event where his speech was as good as hers. john: i think you saw them at the j.j. in iowa in october. he was good at that. mark: but not as good as her. john: first they had the town hall format. then we had the debate last night.
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now we have them doing a different thing which is the straight ahead stump speech. a rallying call. i think he can go toe to toe with here there, too. i think we could have an exciting night tonight. mark: we head into the weekend, no more new ads. this is when the ground game matters. his big league psychologically is good for her but it shows he has a big lead. coming up, two new hampshire veterans after this. ♪
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john: among the republican
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candidates -- tuesday's primary in new hampshire -- are jeb bush and john kasich -- two guys supporting those candidates. judd gregg, the former senator from the state. and the former attorney general of new hampshire and a long time republican activist. hi. >> the great buddha. >> activist? >> yoda. mark: let me start with you, the public polling on governor bush is mixed. some show him poised to get ahead -- >> i happen to think that donald trump has a ceiling of 25% or 30%, the other 75% of votes are going to move. i think it will happen after this debate. my sense is there are two or three people coming up fast on the outside.
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one is jeb bush. one happens to be john kasich. they have made good cases in their town meetings. i think people are very receptive to what they are saying. they are respected and are seen as leaders. as a result, i think when new hampshire voters tend to decide late and they tend to move there he quickly in groups. toward somebody they are comfortable with. i think you're going to see jeb do very well. mark: can anyone but trump finish first? >> yes. jeb, john, or potentially rubio. john: let me ask you this question. if your guy, let's assume for the sake of argument that donald trump and marco rubio are going to finish in the top three
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somewhere. if your guy does not finish in the top three, does he have any case for going on? >> sure, because it is not necessarily the top three. if you're fourth by a point. as judd just said, this race is so fluid. i'm not going to set any arbitrary number. john: if there are two establishment lane candidates that finish above your guys, do they go on? >> it becomes harder. if i get smoked here, i'm going home. john: what about your guy, jeb bush? let's say marco rubio and john kasich, does jeb bush have a case for continuing? >> money. and also i happen to think as we move south, jeb gets even stronger. john: even if jeb finished fifth or sixth, he should still go on and fight south carolina? >> absolutely. our party could not afford to nominate donald trump or ted cruz. john: you are not comfortable with the idea of john kasich or
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marco rubio carrying the establishment banner forward? >> they will have a heavy lift. with financial support or structural support. mark: john kasich is hoping for a lot of support from independents. there -- in the true independent category, where do you think that stands in terms of people wanting to vote for clinton or sanders? >> i have been to 50 or 100 town halls. i hear that over and over again. and the combinations of people who are voters -- is extraordinary. it's john kasich and hillary clinton. it's bernie sanders and ted cruz. when you are an independent in new hampshire, you understand exactly the opportunity you have and the ability to make a statement that probably no other voter in the country has like this. therefore, they are relatively
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-- mark: public polls showing clinton down 30. the republican race seems more competitive. >> that is a wonderful point. they should look hard at that. and they should -- come on home. i don't know. i tend to agree with the senator. i think hillary clinton is stronger than polling data is showing. there is a phenomena, the sanders voter and the trump voter. a lot of them are first-time voters or voters who are not regular participants. while i understand the energy and the fire, we still have to see whether they show up. >> it is a point to recognize in new hampshire, our independent voters, 60%, may be republican voters, mostly educated women who left the party because they got upset with the national, the harshness of the national party. i suspect their natural inclination is to come to the republican primary and they will not be trump or cruz voters. john: the one thing that is true about both you guys is you are not naturally inclined to take out the meat axe and take out other people. what is wrong with marco rubio? why shouldn't he be the establishment candidate? >> i never ran a negative ad. i don't happen to believe in negative campaigning. i think we have quality people in our party.
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i think the democratic party has much more structural serious problems with their candidates then we have. john: you think jeb bush is better than marco rubio. why? >> jeb has got a track record of government. there are three tests. can they win? are they substantive on the core issues, national defense, and health care and controlling spending? do they know how to govern? as a governor, he knew how to govern. believe me, governors govern. senators, well, we have a good time, but we do not have a lot of responsibility. mark: who would you say are the swing groups in your primary, older women, single men? >> i think they are not doctrinaire voters. i think there are voters that look -- can you manage? what's your experience? they really, this is a very questioning voter who takes a
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good, hard look, had time to look at these people. i do see a lot of women who are trying to make a decision. and again, the rhetoric of some is forbidding to them. they also are drawn to the middle. this is a middle statement. we put the purple to purple. john: thank you. mark: up next, the voters are choosing and we go ted cruzing. all that and more after this. [laughter] ♪ john: our next guest is the great kristin walker, the white
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john: our next guest is the great kristin walker, the white house correspondent here covering the democratic race avidly.
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you were with hillary clinton today. do you see a slight change in strategy? >> i do. it's interesting. first of all, today she spoke directly to those younger voters. she's trailing bernie sanders in younger voters. today she spoke directly to them. she said, you might not be for me. i'm for you. today she made a direct pitch. as we were talking about, today was all about the women. she was joined by female senators, senator gillibrand, debbie stabenow, among others. as well as lilly ledbetter, making a push to female voters. she's trailing bernie sanders among women here, and that's being fueled by younger voters. i interviewed some of the women. how is it possible she is trailing among women voters? they said, look, we acknowledge it is the younger voters.
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we are going to be knocking on doors. as a part of that change in strategy, she is talking more about the fact i would be the first female president. a counter to bernie sanders' argument is she is part of the establishment. we heard her make that point during the debate. john: she is part of the establishment. mark: one of the things the clintons have in their back pocket is legions of clintonites. friends of bill's and friends of hillary. >> that's right. they are making their way in the storm. some of their flights are canceled, they are trying to figure that out, but they are determined to get here from all over the country. and they are going to be working that ground game. they are going to pound the pavement. and, because they part of the -- they are a part of the establishment, the clinton machine will be in full force this weekend. they will have all of their supporters out here trying to, even if she cannot win, get that 20 point lead whittled down to a
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single digit discrepancy, because they can at least make the argument that she came back in a significant way. john: we had two wise men from new hampshire, both republicans, but both saying they thought clinton's strength is not being reflected accurately by the polls. do you think within clinton's world that is their perception? >> they have for months been downplaying new hampshire. we do not think we can win. she came back here before in 2008. they stressed bernie sanders is not barack obama. he is from neighboring vermont. you get the sense that they are not giving up on this state. secretary clinton has been here. she is taking a brief trip to flint, michigan. if you read between the lines, they are making a real play for the state. i think they believe that they are -- a tiny shot at coming back. john: they say bernie sanders is not barack obama. [indiscernible] mark: when she leaves here, presumably with a loss, maybe not. do you think they have already started to place that into their psychic sense of where things are? >> i do.
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i think they have been factoring in the potential new hampshire loss from day one. she's been trying to build up essentially a strong firewall in the south and in the super tuesday states. that is part of this trip to flint, michigan, on sunday. she has been talking about the water crisis. that's something that resonates with african-american voters, in particular in states like south carolina where you have a big african-american voting population. that is something she will keep talking about. mark: talk about the challenge he has -- bernie sanders can raise money on the internet and she has got to go to events. >> it speaks to the momentum and adds on to the fact he does not have to fly off to philadelphia and do a big fundraiser. he's doing it online.
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it underscores the young movement we are seeing that is very reflective and reminding a lot of democrats of what happened in 2008 with barack obama. what's so interesting is the obama coalition. clinton had the entire coalition locked up. it is a fight for that coalition and the fight for the future of the democratic party. john: you talk about the firewall and the circuit in south carolina -- there is a contest between those. it is nevada. it is a long stretch before you get to south carolina. are they nervous about it? >> they are. bernie sanders is making a real play. he has been taking nevada very seriously and guess what? bill clinton is campaigning in nevada. he was in south carolina yesterday. bill clinton is making the rounds. they are concerned about nevada. if he wins new hampshire, bernie sanders wins, he will have more momentum. you wonder what will happen to clinton's numbers in a state like south carolina and nevada where she has a strong lead. does that start to diminish?
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john: you are fantastic in every way. >> you are fantastic for having me. john: up next, the next episode of "the circus." behind the scenes with ted cruz the night he won iowa. if you're watching us in washington, d.c., you can listen to us on bloomberg 99.1 fm. we will be back after this. ♪
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mark: sunday night at 8:00 p.m. on showtime. the next episode of our show
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"the circus." it's mostly about what is happening in new hampshire but we begin the episode with a look at what happened on caucus night. here is a look at my conversation with the winner of the republican caucuses the night he won, ted cruz. just walk me through your day. senator cruz: today i was very much at peace. that is always been how i approach an election day. the first thing we did is went and completed our 99th county. completed the full grassley. going to all 90 counties. you owe the people of iowa respect. to ask the men and women of iowa, to look them in the eyes, answer their hard questions. heidi went to one caucus location.
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my dad went to the other one. it was powerful just to hug heidi. to hug my mom, hug my dad. um, this has been an amazing journey. it is breathtaking. i mean, that last month, washington fired every bullet in their gun at us. the tv news, every pundit was saying cruz can't win. trump's going to win. i've heard it from every political pundit. yet, what happened today is the grassroots proved them wrong. a couple of days ago the finance reports were filed. as of december 31, we had almost as much money in the bank as jeb bush plus marco rubio plus john kasich plus chris christie.
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that's nuts. the conservative is supposed to be broke. mark: congratulations. off to new hampshire. better get some sleep on the plane. senator cruz: ain't that the truth. mark: john takes bernie sanders from iowa to new hampshire. sunday night at 8:00 p.m. on showtime. joining us now to preview the episode is our cohost and co-conspirator and friend, mark mckinnon a political advisor to george w. bush and john mccain. so, preview for everybody. we start in iowa with one of the co-winners. bernie sanders and ted cruz. what happens when we get here? mark m.: it is all about momentum. what does it mean? the idea of big mo comes from george h.w. bush in 1980 as he came out of iowa. then got crushed by ronald reagan in new hampshire. there is this great dynamic to see what campaigns are doing, planning for months.
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iowa happens. our colleague from "the washington post" characterized iowa perfectly when she said in 2008, i went back and looked at my column the day before the caucus and she looked at her column and said, with the exception of my byline everything else was wrong. the fun thing about politics that has proven true is there are so many surprises. some surprises out of iowa. what are going to be the surprises out of new hampshire? john: the great thing about that george herbert walker bush, the big mo, he thought he had it. new hampshire crushed it. new hampshire has done that a lot. when your candidate ran in 2000. talk about that as a premonition about what could happen here. mark m: we came out of iowa. george w. bush not only lost but lost by 19 points. got hammered. after winning iowa, john mccain beat us badly. we talk about momentum.
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here is the impact momentum has. john mccain, the day before new hampshire, was 25 points down in south carolina. after winning new hampshire, he was up. a swing of 30 points in 24 hours. that is how quickly momentum changes the dynamics. mark: you traveled around with different candidates, talk about the mood of the republican field. mark m.: i spent time with ted cruz coming out of iowa. the fun thing about watching the candidates is how the campaign shifts. we went from buses to chartered airplanes. it is just getting bigger,
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faster, more geography you are covering. a whole new dynamic to the campaign. it's faster. things are really going to start clicking. you will see campaigns dropping out. it's real fluid. dynamics are moving real quickly. mark: three of us had a conversation with marco rubio and his wife. what was their mood like? mark m.: you get a fingertip feel for this thing. you can tell a campaign that has a bit of wind at their back. they are trying to not overplay their expectations. they played the expectations game perfectly in iowa. the arrow's headed the right direction for marco rubio. mark: i was struck by how calm they were. they are young to be playing at this level. they have got young kids. they were highly relaxed. mark m.: they act like a seasoned team. john: you were at the jeb bush event last night where barbara bush was present. you have been intimate with bushes. what was that like? mark m.: there is such goodwill
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for the bush family, but 100% for barbara bush. everybody loves her. i've been struck -- by the unconditional love of any member of that family. it is really moving. mark: circus, premieres, this episode about new hampshire this sunday night at 8:00 on showtime. next, we will break down the tv ads in these final days before the new hampshire primary and show you who is getting bruised and battered the most after this. ♪
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john: the only thing falling on new hampshire faster than the snow -- the blizzard of tv commercials. we asked our expert analyst to break down the money spent on
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granite state ads, and what that tells us about the closing arguments before tuesday's primary. >> now it is new hampshire's turn. mrs. clinton: the american people cannot afford to wait. reporter: $100 million has been shelled out for tv ads in new hampshire. at this point in 2012, that number was closer to $2 million. where is it all coming? $27 million of that cash has flowed to wmur in manchester. >> all america is watching to see who we will choose in his dangerous time.
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reporter: the other to the boston market. a pricey way to reach voters. $82 million has been spent by candidates and their groups. with $11.2 million for republican ads slated to air in this coming week. -- $8.3 million by the sanders campaign. mrs. clinton: we can make real progress right now for people and families who need it. reporter: sanders is set to buy nearly three times as much as clinton in the final week. finally, how about tone? over the past seven days, more than half the das from the -- ads from the republican race have been negative. >> doing whatever it takes to win is not presidential. reporter: that is more than the two democrats who may have mixed it up in the debate but are keeping theirtv ads positive. the number one gop target -- ted cruz. john: joining us now to talk more about the final stretch of the new hampshire campaign are members with bloomberg politics reporting team. megan murphy and terry -- who covers chris christie.
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and kevin who has been enjoying the pleasure of covering donald trump. megan, you spend a lot of time taking about the intersection of politics and money. last night, there was a lot of talk about the intersection in the democratic debate. wall street, good, bad, and indifferent. tell us about what struck you about last night, the exchanges. megan: i think last night was a seminal moment. once again we heard hillary stumble about how to justify the contributions she has received. her speaking fees and her campaign. what is fascinating is her -- bernie smeering her. that is a strategy that will backfire. when i talk to independent voters, people are trying to make up their mind and the one
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thing that bothers them the most is the wall street donations. it baffles me with this much at stake, we still have not come up with an answer that really satisfied the electorate on this question. if she does not figure it out in the next few weeks, it is going to be again this monkey she cannot get off her back. mark: governor christie probably have the soundbite a week ago when he referred to marco rubio as the boy in the bubble. he hits rubio every day. has not broken through. the widespread expectation is he will tomorrow night on the debate stage somehow break through. what will that look like? >> the attempt to break through, the new iteration he is using is he is throwing the boy in the bubble charge, keeps popping up. he's throwing donald trump and ted cruz into his attack. his argument right now is if the voters of new hampshire on tuesday were to elect candidates who had not been here as much as him or jeb bush, have not made new hampshire part of their campaign, that they threaten the political tradition. he's resorting to a fear tactic
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for new hampshire. john: a viewer -- appeals of that kind on the candidates who -- an electorate, not in terms of they voted for someone like -- [indiscernible] that tradition has worked? >> the fear tactics is who we've seen many times. i think of a certain bush. pretty strong take with that. as far as tradition, i don't know how strong an argument that is going to be. john: donald trump. suddenly we see him do smaller events. more like a traditional town hall event. what is going on with trump? >> the trump people are all saying that this is an effort to insert more retail politics into his campaign strategy. he is not doing away with these massive, huge-style rallies we have become accustomed to. what he is doing is trying to sneak in smaller venues. doing more off the cuff. we were with him in a manchester police department as he spoke to a very small crowd.
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it was surreal because on the first floor they were paying parking tickets. upstairs -- they had no idea donald trump was up there. megan: he wanted to pay his parking tickets. >> clearly his campaign facing criticism that he does not have the ground game that some of these other, more experienced political campaign operations have. i got a call today from a south carolina trump person who is reaching out to journalists trying to showcase that ground operation. mark: all week we are talking about big mo. who has it? on either side, who do you think has the big mo? megan: i think bernie. when you go outside and have 1000 people out there chanting in the cold. he takes last night.
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on foreign policy, he is no mo. on the rest of it, i think he gained support last night. >> i think on the -- especially in the establishment lane, we are seeing rubio pulling the momentum. he was sort of creeping up in polls throughout the late summer. now you're really seeing a wide gap. mark: if you guys are right, and i agree with what you're saying, you will see iowa not be repeated by the new hampshire voters but those are the two people who had the biggest bump out of iowa. they're both having pretty good weeks -- megan: definitely not a breakthrough week.
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a solid week and he can take what he has here and move on. john: real quick. do think chris christie, if he ends up in sixth or below, stays in the race? >> yeah. i think the plan was to hang on as long as he could. it is hard to deny a sixth place, a fourth, even fifth place. john: in the end, he is going to be a realist. thank you to megan, terry, kevin. we will be back with who won not the day, but the entire whole week. ♪
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mark: it is friday. my question is who won the week? john: look, this week the iowa caucus happened. it seems that bernie sanders -- he won by fighting hillary clinton to a draw. he's in a state he is almost certain to win. he's performed very well so far --
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mark: marco, finished an impressive -- by finishing third, he positioned himself to be the most likely nominee and most likley president of the united states. that is how important this state is. because if he can somehow finish super strong, watch how quickly he can beccome the nominee. there is a great story by our colleague about the time donald trump tried to buy the buffalo bills. john: coming up on "bloomberg west" emily chang speaks to the former advisor of the department of state. we will be back next week. until then, sayonara. ♪
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