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>> welcome to the best of edition of "with all due respect." we saw the super tuesday delegate bonanza. we begin with the question front and center this week. what, if anything, can stop the front runner in this race? get out your abacus is and calculators. we will take a drive down delegate drive. donald trump looks destined to
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become the republican nominee. the other guys in the race seem to be relegated to hoping there is some tricky delegate map that could leave trump just shy of the number needed for the nomination. trump now has just 319 delegates. his opponents have a combined 385. here is one scenario we came up with for how trump could be stopped short of a majority. besides nevada, caucasus states have not been his strongest part he lost iowa and alaska and minnesota. trump may see close races in states with big suburban populations like virginia, where he won, but not by very much. trump still gets a lot of delegates, one third of the delegates about in the states that he lost.
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let's assume this continues and suburban states and white and rural states in the great plains. let's also say that trump loses ohio to john kasich and somehow also loses florida to marco rubio. those are two of the big winner take all states. if that happened and even if state,on every other he would fall short of the medic number of 1237 -- the magic number of 1237. does that make a case to you ist it's possible that trump stopped short of a majority? plausible.nk it is , theey thing there caucasus states where only
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republicans are led to vote. to lose those winner take all states per to someone will have to beat him in ohio and florida. if that happens, there is a reasonable chance that he could be stopped short of 1237 and we could end up in that place where we have a contested convention. that is the only way donald trump does not become the nominee. i'm open to the possibility. mark: the question of whether they can take it from a contested convention -- could the math workout? it could. these outside groups come if they start to advertise big in these states and marco rubio really focuses on florida, k-6 focuses on ohio -- john kasich
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ohio, trump doesuses in not win enough winner take all states -- it is plausible, not the most likely outcome, but far from impossible. i'm not saying he has to lose all the winner take all states, but he has to lose some big ones. if you get into a one-on-one race in places like california my no yes chris christie on his side, but he could lose those states. mark: this morning, hillary clinton's super tuesday victories announced -- bernie forward in a briefing to reporters in vermont.
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their scenario involves the prospect that sanders could win big states like new york and california and also do well in michigan. they were not superhigh on winning florida. how plausible is the sanders plan at this point to stop hillary clinton from getting a majority? john: not that plausible. i admire those guys, they know delegate math as well as anybody in the party. there is a narrow path, but really narrow. a lot less likely than the were talkingg we about, holding trump short of 1237. those states are more demographically diverse where hillary clinton is strong. hardnk it is a very, very road for them going forward. mark: i thought he would only win one or two states. he won four good this is about delegate math.
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what he needs is a momentum changing when. -- win. if he can win in michigan, hillary will face more of a challenge than she is now. it will be difficult for him. once you fall behind in the democratic party, it is hard to catch up. there is no winner take all and sanders would have to start winning states in a very big way. and then he would have to start flipping superdelegates. 20 questions or so for mitt romney about delegate math and whether he will consider getting in the presidential race. ♪
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>> those people can express themselves as they would like to. i said in my speech that we can measure the likeliness of donald --mp gov. romney: those people can express themselves if they would like to. i sat in my speech that we can
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measure the radius of donald trump to be president in part of how people responded to my speech, whether it be policy or a personal attack. characteristically he took the low road. mark: there has been some negative reaction, rush limbaugh reacted negatively. does that bother you at all? gov. romney: i haven't think that donald trump has neither the expense nor temperament to be president. mark: there have been moments along the way, where you are mrs. romney together have said that is too far, too much. can you think of those in the last few weeks or months where you were mrs. romney have said that is too much? gov. romney: it is a long list. his comments about mexicans, that was very early on. then comments about slums, most recently what he said with regards to the equivocation on david duke and the ku klux klan. and then saying that george w. bush was a liar, at the same time saying putin someone who he respects as a strong and effective leader. it has been one outrage after the other. his mocking of a reporter based on their physical disability. and the sexual and vulgar elements have been a part of this campaign.
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my thought was i was going to remain neutral and call the balls and strikes and a foul here and there. with the ku klux klan equal -- equivocation and with how late this is getting in the process, i said to myself when my grandkids come and say, what are you going to do to stop donald trump, i don't want to say i did nothing. mark: a big date is tuesday when florida and other states vote. you did some other interviews. is that it? what will you be doing between now and ohio? you said you would do everything you could to stop donald trump. gov. romney: i'm doing this, which actually reaches more voters than showing up in a state. i am not sure my showing up in a state would make much of a difference come anyway. most people want you to come in and endorsing candidates. i am laying out the case why we need to have a real republican lead our party.
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and why donald trump is not that person. that is something i can continue to do best in the media. mark: after today, are you done? gov. romney: i have a show or two tomorrow. beyond that, i will continue to work behind the scenes and do whatever i could. mark: what about your fundraising network? there are super pacs and groups trying to raise money to stop donald trump. gov. romney: i think they have noticed my remarks yesterday. i'm hoping those people who are saying donald trump is ineffective, we might look at on board, maybe we should wait a minute here and give it a second look. mark: you are a wealthy guy. are you going to give money to any of those groups? gov. romney: i may. mark: some people talk about his taxes. some people speculated about your taxes. do you know something about his
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-- what might be in his taxes? do you have some informed guess or are you doing some trolling? gov. romney: i indicated what i believed to be a bombshell in his taxes. every time someone raised a question about his taxes he evades. you don't do that if you planning relationship. best if you are planning -- if you are planning on releasing them. he says they are beautiful. as time has gone on, he has come up with new excuses why he won't release them. for five years he is being -- for five years are being audited. he says now know, the debt or -- it's two or three years. we say give us the taxes that aren't being audited. he does not want to release his tax returns under any circumstances. i don't believe he ever will because there is something in there that he is afraid of -- if people saw it they wouldn't vote
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for him as nominee. whether it is one year or five years or two years, in the year i had them completed in january 2012, we are now in march of this election year. it is late to be releasing returns. mark: let's take this away from donald trump and talk about who is entitled to the nomination. is the person with the most delegates going into the cleveland convention, has a plurality, is entitled to the nomination? gov. romney: no one is entitled to the nomination. the delegates make a determination of who will be in the best interest of the party to be the nominee. this is a process that is a normal political process. it may go away in a contested -- to a contested open
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convention. i think that would be interesting. exciting for the public at large. either you have to get the delegates and show you had the support of the nation, you have 1237 delegates. mark: you would be comfortable the delegatesa delegate saying 48, not 50. he's not the one who should be the present of nominee with 41%. gov. romney: what he has said with muslims, women, george bush, a person like that should not be the nominee for our party for president. i'll continue to advocate until that avenues no longer open. mark: what do you say for the people who voted for him? gov. romney: i will do my best to get people to vote in another direction. that is how politics work.
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we have a political process that has been used before and i anticipate you are going to see a process where people decide the best way forward. by the way, if there was no such thing as an open convention, my guess is the three people running as opponents to donald trump right now would combine to one. they say you have to get up before you get there. those that are running separately, they think it is not the best chance of getting the delegates at the convention they need. mark: you said some pretty rough things about john mccain, that is politics. rick santorum and new gingrich said some interesting things about you. is this different, are the things people will, you and others, saying about donald trump beyond normal politics? gov. romney: i think what he has been doing in the campaign is taking politics to a wholly lower level than we have ever seen, at least in modern times. the attacks based on people's physical characteristics, so saying about carly fiorina, look
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at her face, saying about marco rubio in the debate, "little marco, little marco," this hasn't been done before. even calling someone a liar. usually, you said this is a person who's had difficulty with the truth. saying, "he's a liar, liar ted," these kinds of things -- and frankly, the vulgarity, that hasn't been a part of political campaigns. it goes on in locker rooms and sometimes in small groups. but on a public stage, running for president in the united states -- president of the united states, to engage in personal attacks is something we haven't seen before. mark: you said you wouldn't vote for donald trump but you wouldn't vote for hillary clinton. even your political allies and advisers say that is the most likely outcome. what would you do in the general election if those are your only
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two choices? gov. romney: i would vote for a conservative on the ballot. if there were not one i was comfortable with, i would write in a name. mark: would you like to see, let's say donald trump wins florida and ohio and it looks like by the middle of march he's going to be the republican nominee, would you like to see an effort made by some conservative to get ballot access? gov. romney: i haven't thought about that. i just know i don't what is he donald trump the dow country, and i don't want to see hillary clinton leading our country. i will probably be riding in a -- be writing in a name. mark: in all likelihood, the winner at that point would be hillary clinton or donald trump. whose presidency would be better for
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the country and whose would be worse? gov. romney: i'm going to channel lindsey graham and say do you want to either drink the poison or take the bullet? ♪
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mark: it is miller time. former communications director -- miller joins us from miami. he has a new job. the super pacfor formed not that long ago with the sole purpose of trying to stop donald trump from becoming the publican party's presidential nominee. tim joins us from miami. why did you take this job? sometimes in life, you have to be on the side of what is right and good. stopping donald trump from becoming the republican nominee
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is certainly that. he has no chance to become the president because hillary clinton would wipe the floor with him in the general election. his favorite thing to talk about in his speeches, the polls. i'm not sure what he would talk about in the general elections since hillary is cleaning his clock in every public poll that is out there. stop thatjob to horrible reality from happening. mark: there has been discussions infusion of cash, how much cash do you all hope to raise in the next three weeks? principles has spent $3 million in iowa, with some success. it is one of the states trump has not one to date -- won today.
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because of the fragmented field, there was not the financial support for a stopgap effort in the ensuing weeks that there needed to be. more and more money is coming in the door, we've raised more money in the last week that it has through its existence to date. we have a $1 million television buy on air right now about how trump scammed people at trump u. a new piece of information just surfaced with donald trump writing on a blog in 2005 that he thinks outsourcing is a great thing, fantastic. that is something you will have to contend with tomorrow night in detroit. mark: how much are you guys going to raise between now and march 15? tim: as much as we can. and we will spend as much as we can.
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i'm not going to give exact numbers, but it's important that there are a lot of groups out there. you are seeing more and more money come in the door. hopefully, we will spend as much as it takes. mark: mitt romney is a moderate fan of this program. what would you like to see him say in his speech right now? that no matter who you are in the republican party, no matter what -- whether you fancy yourself establishment republican or conservative or populist, donald trump is not looking out for you. he is a fraud looking out for himself. what you've seen from mitt romney over the past few weeks is highlighting the fact that donald has not released his tax returns. because he gets nothing to charity. he claims he gives money to the wounded warriors.
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he probably pays very little in taxes. he has not put out his tax returns. mitt romney has called him out on that. he's right to call him out on the fact that he would not clearly denounced the kkk. my hope is that he continues to do that tomorrow with moral clarity. i look forward to hearing what he has to say. mark: it will get a lot of coverage. you've come out to join this effort. charlie baker of massachusetts came out, a few other people have. i don't know if any of the things have gotten as much attention as governor christie's endorsement of donald trump. how much do you think that is helping donald trump stabilize this commanding position he is in? tim: it exposed the fact that chris christie's entire campaign was a farce. running for office as the
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tell it like it is candidate. talking hard truths about the policies our country has to address. and then he endorsed the candidate who offers no policy specifics and wants to tell people the opposite of hard truths. donald trump tells people what they want to hear. wish youhat people would say. he is not telling hard truths. he's a complete phony and a fraud. the fact that chris christie is going to support him just so he can continue to get on tv standing behind donald trump around a lot of fake gold chandeliers and whatnot reflects poorly on him. to the extent that he has gotten a lot of media coverage, a huge portion of it has been accrued it negatively toward chris christie and i think that is extremely well deserved. is the republican party
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and your associates are you all in a panic over the prospect of donald trump being your nominee? tim: i think he can still be stopped. there is a conventional wisdom about this. of thech consider it fact that this nomination like pastll work out nominations. it is completely different. donald trump has received less than half of the delegates. crews and rubio combined have more delegates. the key number was about half of voters who showed up to vote would be unhappy with donald trump as the nominee. this is not like george w. bush in 1999. consolidatings
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more and more people who don't want him to be the nominee. we are in for a long process. mark: if donald trump called you and let you a message saying i would like to reach out to you and what i'm about, would you call him back? tim: of course. i have a lot of things i would like to talk to him about. and sure that with your viewers. mark: is there anything he could say to win you over? >> i would never vote for him or support him. there's nothing he can say to win me over because he is a complete fraud. he's demonstrated that throughout his life. the fact that just what came out today about the fact that he was pro-outsourcing, these are the essential elements of his campaign, he cannot be trusted as president. he has no respect for the constitution. we don't have to worry about that. the republican party has to make sure he does not get the nomination. mark: thank you.
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we will be talking to you regularly. up next, my conversation with the planned parenthood president , cecile richards. her thoughts on donald trump, hillary clinton and much more. ♪
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mark: here with me now is the president of planned parenthood, cecile richards. thank you for joining me. donald trump has been talking a lot about planned parenthood and praising planned parenthood. i know you do not support him for president, but do you like that he is defending the role that planned parenthood plays? cecile: what he says flex where the american people are. what mr. trump is saying is very disingenuous. he praises our work and on the other handsets if you were
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president, he would end the ability of folks to come to us for health care. you cannot have it both ways. mark: you could exist as an organization without any government funding. cecile: we've been around for 100 years. we are looking forward to doing this work for another 100 years. it is dangerous when politicians start putting their own political agenda ahead of the well-being of folks in this country and access to health care and that is what we are seeing in this republican presidential primary. every single candidate saying we would and access to planned parenthood, don't want to pay for legal abortion anymore. that does not reflect where most people are. mark: i'm not trying to force you to say nice things about him. there seems to be no political upside for him to praise the role that you will play in health issues outside of abortion. i'm wondering whether you think the fact that he is doing that is a good thing because he seems
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to be saying planned parenthood does a lot of good. that reflects that his bowling is showing what we see constantly, people support our health care. -- polling is showing what we see constantly come up people our health care. i don't want anybody to be misled about the danger of somebody running for president to say you cannot go back for health care. we will cut them out of the health care program. within the context of the republican nomination, hillary clinton seems to be doing well, would you say she is the favorite to be the next president of united states? cecile: i think she has an incredible record, particularly in women's health.
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she is poised to be the democratic nominee. the race last night is demonstrating a breath of support. , is november's election don't think anybody is taking anything for granted. this has been one of the most interesting political years. i'm glad to see so many young people interested in the left world politics. they will be a critical voting block in november. -- elect oral politics. voters will care about this -- voters tend not to care much about it. is there any indication that this will be part of the dialogue on the presidential campaign trail? cecile: i think it will. we are hearing the case about the texas laws that have been so restrictive on women's access to safe and legal abortion in that
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state. poll showed that for millennial voters, their top two issues were health care access and reproductive rights. theuse of the assault at state level and because so many cases are in court, this is a special year. casely the supreme court is rather far away. as of the limited access to health care and the efforts to turn back the clock decades on --en's health, there is a this is much more in the mind of voters than i've ever seen. obama thinksident about who he might nominate, is an absolute for you that he nominate someone who affirms they will uphold the fight? cecile: it's important that anyone who is a nominee respect judicial precedents.
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, i'm in a camp of believing president obama was elected for a four-year term, not a three-year term. it's unconscionable to me that the leadership of the senate would say we will not even entertain anyone. we have a case today before a judge is. .- eight judges the american people deserve to have nine judges on the supreme court regardless of who is president. mark: some believe there should be no litmus test for either party. is such anrow important precedent. do insist president obama nominate a potential justice on the record saying i will uphold the precedent? cecile: four planned parenthood and for the millions of people
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who depend on us for health care , that is really important to us to have a federal judiciary that supports women's rights come including access to safe and legal abortion. i don't think it is a hypothetical case. today, we saw a case argued before the supreme court that even as the solicitor general said if these kinds of restrictions are in fact upheld, there may be a constitutional right or legal right to safe and legal abortion but it is no right at all because they cannot access it. would you be disappointed if he nominates someone who's record -- cecile: did not support women's rights? i would be. i would be disappointed in any judge that doesn't support roe versus wade. cecile: would you be disappointed if the president picks someone who -- cecile: i will be disappointed
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in any nominee that does not support women's rights. mark: you will not know until they are on the court. he could nominate someone who has been asked. would you be disappointed if you picked someone without knowing for sure if they supported roe? acile: you're going into such hypothetical. i would be disappointed, not just myself, but millions of women would be disappointed if the next nominee to the court does not clearly support women's rights and that includes roe. mark: give me a name of someone who would be good. who would you pick? cecile: i've heard lots of names. picking -- that may not be the best judgment to have my endorsement if they want to be confirmed.
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it's important that we look for judges who have a judicial temperament that understand that women are equal parts of society. it was interesting sitting there in the courtroom getting to hear a case argued where we have three women on the supreme court . as a woman and a mom, it makes a huge difference to have whoerent voices in the room have walked in the shoes of women in this country. for been extremely grateful the additions of elena kagan and selling us of the mayor. ia sotomayor.said the --k: coming up ♪
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, an nbcining us now
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political analyst and the founder of the foreign-policy initiative. neither of you are here as surrogates today. you are here as friends. why would you start with republicans? it's so less interesting. john: i will start with you. she would rather vote for hillary clinton in donald trump. you book for donald trump? -- would you but for donald trump? >>+++
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republican in the general election. john: who would that be? >> i'm not going to throw out names. john: i asked this question -- is this right now and next essential crisis for the republican party? >> you have a guy who is leading the polls right now against a fragmented field who just said last night that the chinese government's treatment of the modelnry in china is a for how we should deal with the republican people. best the american people. -- deal with the american people. is keeping the region in check. over half the tweets he read tweets from his fans are from white supremacists. john: what does it say about your party that he is the front runner? >> he is the front runner against a fragmented field. republicans are still voting against him.
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rubio against trump will truly test whether he is the front runner. ofuntil the last couple weeks, two things have not been tested in this race. how donald trump deals with someone who doesn't just stay above in the primary and challenge on substance, but gets in his grill. that has not been tested. secondly, we are testing whether comet he deals positively responsibly, constructively with tens of millions of dollars of tv ads raising all sorts of issues about him. newer public and has won the nomination without going through that. republican has ever won the nomination without going through that. >> i will not vote for donald trump, either. john: a newsmaking, headline making admission on your point. >> look at his record, look at
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him and his family, i don't think he has served himself well i understand his strategy. the overall winner has been mrs. clinton. howle were worried about well she would do a nevada. in south carolina, appealing to a broad section of democrats. john: what can she do now to take advantage of the chaos in the republican party? >> stay on her message. her speech in south carolina was one of the better speeches she has given. if you get thrown off stride at the adhere to a message and adhere to an approach. the question now has to focus on
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what is it ar you are going to do to make america whole again. that is the message. or is chaos and dysfunction on the republican side will help us. it will unite us. path hasnders's narrowed tremendously. they chaos on the republican side helps unite democrats even more. john: for republicans to win this race, you have to run a perfect race to beat hillary clinton. sayingpublicans were she's easy to beat -- >> she's tough. what trump said is horrifying. -- he will not disavow david duke. he did not yesterday. >> you hear the words "ku klux
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klan," your immediate reaction should be bad. >> fine, i will repudiate. politics, the the electoral politics of it, what donald trump will do is can reassembleon the obama coalition in better numbers. mitt romney got 27% of the latino vote. what do you think donald trump will get? 20% if you are being conservative about it. let me make the contrary point. there are people saying i would rather run against marco rubio. he's a predicable candidate. donald trump is totally unpredictable. he could drive a huge amount of working-class turnout in the midwest -- what do you think about that?
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donald trump might be more dangerous. >> i will leave it to the strategists to figure that out. fundamental challenge for mrs. clinton is to build on what you did the other night in south carolina in terms of her speech, putting her campaign on a path -- the nominee will be tough. electoral college could show you -- ia bigger win understand the argument about trump. could he bring voters into the polls who were not in the polls before? probably. is that number big enough to offset the advantage democrats have? >> mitt romney was 4 million votes behind obama. at a time when we need to expand our share of the electorate. tell me which estates will
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enough that we make a 4 million vote hole and add above that? don: what does she need to to excite young voters away from -- in a way that bernie sanders has? outlook, owning a bigger home and being able to support your family, that is what the american dream is. we will be right back after this. ♪
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for thehuge week indeed 2016 elections. kansas, kentucky and maine holding caucuses this weekend. along with the primary in louisiana. onck out our analysis
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bloombergpolitics.com. mark: you can catch a new episode of our show at 8:00 p.m. eastern. .ou can catch us on 99.1 fm we will have a new episode on monday. until then, sayonara. ♪
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♪ emily: he got his start as a journalist with a front row seat to steve jobs' inner circle. and wrote the seminal book on the early years at apple. then, michael moritz decided to try his luck in venture capital. he went on to become one of the most heralded investors in silicon valley history, joining the boards of google and yahoo!, then, a few years ago, took a step back for a rare health condition he has never revealed. joining me today on "studio 1.0," sir michael moritz, chairman of sequoia capital and

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