over 30 people dead and more than 200 30 others wounded. released a photo from closed-circuit tv footage of three men pushing luggage carts through the airport. two of the men believed to be suicide bombers were killed. the third man, the one in the hat remains at large. 19 people have been arrested following the attack on the european union military mission in the capital of molly. authorities are conducting a ballistic's investigation. it's the latest in a series of assaults on hotels in west africa. debris that might be part of a plane engine has been found in the coast of south africa. it will be checked to see if it belongs to a malaysia airlines flight 370. the jet disappeared two years ago. for the first time since the death of justice antonin scalia, the supreme court has rendered a decision that ended in a tie. in awere deadlocked

dispute involving discrimination under a federal equal credit law. global news 24 hours a day powered by our 2400 journalists and more than 150 news bureaus around the world. i'm mark crumpton. "bloomberg west" is next. emily: i'm emily chang and this is "bloomberg west." belgium reels from attacks in brussels. after postponing its hearing against apple, we dig into just how the guy plans to unlock the iphone in question. and a dough before ahead with its transition to the cloud. we will talk to the ceo about where the company is headed next. first to hourly -- the world is

rocked by yet another terrorist attack. this time, brussels is the target. three coordinated last killed 31 people, deepening the sense of crisis. elgin remains on the highest terror alert and islamic militants have claimed responsibility. the u.s. government is stepping up security measures and president obama pledged to do whatever is necessary to help ring the perpetrators to justice. some of the key questions we are exploring -- does today's attack further expose the limitations services's security and what technology can be used to improve national security and surveillance efforts, not just in europe but in the united states. joining us from chicago is a digital forensic specialist who has trained u.s. law enforcement officials at the ei and nsa. -- the cia and nsa.

is a mentorus packet. thank you for joining us. worked at the cia, the pentagon and the department of state, do you agree these attacks expose the limitations of law enforcement efforts in a european capital that was already on high alert for terror? for thehank you question. i think there's always limitations and always lessons to be learned in a kind of attack or any occurrence like this or any tragedy like this. arehe other hand, there opportunities to figure out ways to prevent the next attack and that we can work closely together. we have improved our coordination internally and our ability to deal with these sorts of attacks. our effortsped up to work with our allies as well. we murder -- we work more

closely with the europeans and we have in the past but more needs to be done. hope the europeans in general and belgians in .articular can reach out we have the best experts going and i think making better use of that an coordinating better is something that needs to be done. ascan look at this something that offers limitations or that points out limitationsor look at it as an opportunity thaweeed to do more to make sure this doesn't y: ouhe train fbi and law enforcement officers. what does it take to surveillance someone in the world of technology question mark you have the goin dark in paris and you have more technology at your fingertips than ever before to track these people down. it is a big problem alan

goes far beyond the old wiretapping we know from the landline phones. trying to pull communications out of devices encryption.op level as we see with san bernardino another case is similar to it, federal law enforcement agencies and law enforcement agencies around the world have to literally get these devices in their hands to try to determine what kind of communications they were having. it's almost like finding a needle in the haystack given the technology we have at our fingertips. it is such an interesting time with this hearing between apple and the f ei postponed. this issue of privacy versus security, youw dohink this reflects on the original

we ha been having in the unit states over whether apple should help? guest: certainly the more terrorism there is, the harder it is for any company to resist the man's -- resist the demands of security offenders. a complex set of issues that come into play and there are strong arguments why apple should take the stance they are taking. but there's no question as terrorism continues, people get more and more scared and the pressures increase for everybody to line up behind the government man barricades, so to speak. there's all kinds of ways to use technology more intelligently as time goes on and this threat becomes more routine, which i'm sad to say, i think it will be. i don't think it's all

about technology. i think a lot of it has to do -- shoe leather community policing where it may be a little more vulnerable to these terrorists who may use these communities as a place to hide. connecting to these communities and doing old-fashioned work where you connect with the community and build bonds of trust but doesn't need to involve all the technology we have to us today. i do agree with what has been said but it is highlighting the need for a parsbeeen technos the feral government. as this continues, thiswill conw enforcen avto gehis data.

it is encrypted, they're going to work with these manufacturers to decrypt them so they can discover these apps. was speaking with general keith alexander, former head of the nsa and he talked about his concern that another attack on europe could be on the horizon. listen to what he had to say. >> i think we will see significant terrorist events. it easier for terrorists to get there. i think the travel programs have helped a great deal. i don't think that is sufficient. think we will see a number of jihast and lone wolf pe things and that will bring us back to the discussion on civil liberties and security. so why do i say solve that? have anw, we

opportunity to do this in a nonemotional manner. we should take that opportunity and solve these problems to the best of our abilities. it won't be perfect get reasonable people to the table. emily: would you say the united states is just as susceptible to more attacks like this as europe ? is there any difference? i wouldn't say we are more or less but we have had lone wolf attacks in the states as they have in europe. the key here is what general alexander said, it's just finding the right balance rights.protecting our if we don't protect our rights, the terrorists have won. --ing sure lawn officials law enforcement officials have the ability to do the job so they can do what they want to. the key is working together and

to do it before we are in a crisis situation where we cannot be quite as rational about it. david kirkpatrick is sticking with a. gentlemen, thank you for joining us. checky we are watching -- out shares of imagination technology. they spiked as much as 16% trading on a report that apple may be in talks to buy the company. apple responded saying they hello -- they held parliamentary takeover talks and that sent the shares right back down. it is the latest twist in a turbulent year for the company. its ceos to down in february after forecasting a full year loss in the company/350 jobs. or gay percent of imagination and uses its graphic processing unit in iphones and ipads.

coming up, the justice department says it might use a third party to unlock the iphone used by the san bernardino gunman. the method that could be used to crack the code when we return. ♪

emily: the fbi backing down it sent off with apple for now after revealing a third party might be able to unlock the iphone without the help of apple itself. possible methods have been streaming and since the news broke and our next guest has a strategy in mind. along with our guest host for the hour, david patrick. you and i talked about this and you said there are other ways to do this before this happened.

so who could possibly do this for the fbi and how? michael: there are a ton of different ways they could be doing this but one stands out as possible. they asked for two weeks to test and verify this theory of how they could unlock this phone. that does not leave a lot of options. they are not going to use a destructive method or experimental method. i think what they're going to uses use is what the tech community has been talking about witches mirroring the memory chip to replay it. think of it like cheating at a video game. when you die, you restore a saved game it's the same thing except in so sang the game,ou arerestoring bu tried 10 10 codes. could be helping them? there are suggestions that it could be outside governments. michael: it's almost certainly not the government itself. could it be an outside

contractor from the u.s.? maybe. sundayn that it came in evening, my personal guess is it is probably a foreign contractor or foreign entity because it would have been monday morning their time, which seems to make sense. insider i have no knowledge. these are purely my suspicions. it certainly seems that this undermines the government's argument against apple and almost let's apple off the hook. fascinating tot speculate who it might be. i think it is possible it could be a foreign government. there are plenty of entities that want to win brownie points and gain negotiating leverage and sadly i believe especially when it comes to earlier technology, many governments we often don't agree with already have the technology to get things done that we may not be

able to do. certainly the chinese government comes to mind. i don't know how that negotiation might sound but it doesn't seem inconceivable that there could be interesting diplomatic overtures going on around this. emily: i am just getting headlines from "the guardian, saying the government has classified these tests. it is so promising that they have classified what they are trying to do and have assured it will not damage or a race the data. they are trying to ensure that doesn't happen. does that give you additional clues? michael: maybe they are trying to protect the method itself or maybe they are working with a government a don't want to say they are working with. or maybe it is not a government. maybe it is a rogue chinese group or russian group or other group the u.s. does not want to

in the new york times or bloomberg and say we are going to work with this group we have historically not interacted with. emily: if they find other vulnerabilities, are they required to tell apple? michael: that's a good question. we know based on previous leaks, the nsa and other agencies haven't in the past. they are not alone. there's a market phone -- market apple has yet to patch. is the fbin is, capable of finding those or using those in such a way apple won't find out anyway? i don't think it prevents the dialogue from occurring. i think it staves off for a little while. all of this means they're going to wait until the next leg time. emily: obviously, we will follow this with aided breath. thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us.

david kirkpatrick, you are with me for the hour. up next, we stay in the cloud and speak to the adobe ceo about the company's biggest area of this the on products like photoshop. we had to las vegas, next.

emily: business analytics company dome of says it has raised $131 million from investors. boosts itsinfusion funding to almost $590 million and holds its valuation study by $2 billion. they compete with good data and competing with information about cash sales over the cloud. adobe shares remain higher after possibly thisiant report, beating estimates for the fourth quarter and boosting their estimates for the year. all of this perhaps showing their multi-year effort to shift

from the desktop to the cloud is paying off. joining me with more on the health of adobe is someone who should know, the ceo, shantanu narayen. great to have you on the show. i want to start with earnings because you reported a few days ago and there was a lot of concern around enterprise software companies and economic uncertainty. what do you think your latest quarterly report shows? bentanu: it is a pleasure to back on your show, emily. when you look at q1, we had a strong quarter across the board. the creative cloud, the adobe marketing cloud did well. we have successfully re--- reimagined the creative process by moving the business to the cloud and in the marketing business, we had a very strong quarter. i think what is driving it is every single business around the world is talking about the

impact of each bill and how they have to put the customer front and center. our products and technology enables us to make that transformation and that is voting well for adobe. emily: you are close to completing this shift from subscription to license-based sales. in what areas of the business are you seeing the most strength? shantanu: the creative , i would say through the heart of the transition, that is why we have talked about in the latest earnings how the creative is this is going to grow greater than 20% this year. that is from the peak. businessesh of those are fueling their growth. it is all about the mobile applications and video being consumed on mobile devices. on marketing, it is about

re-platforming peoples core infrastructure to deal with the demand of it shall. longer-term, what are the areas of competition you are worried about? we've been and hisabout andy famous line only the paranoid survive. what are you paranoid about? shantanu: we are paranoid like any other company in how technology is going to disrupt the entire industry. the good news for adobe's we have always been a product company in our dna and as long as we continue to innovate, we have transformed our business is by focusing on the customers. are always looking for that innovative startup and individuals who have a great idea, we have been continuing to innovate in the company and will continue to do so. you are in las vegas

where you are hosting a digital conference which may be one of the lesser-known areas of your business. why is marketing a big focus for adobe? shantanu: we have always been about art. if you look at our products like piecehop, there is not a of communication out there whether it is a website or video or mobile application that didn't have some use of adobe software. a few years ago, we recognize the world was moving to read plot form their web infrastructure and every business had to put the customers digital journey front and center. we recognized if we could bring together what we had done with art with the science of marketing, we thought that would be a unique opportunity. and hr had been automated but no one was targeting the chief digital officer or marketing officer with

technology. we are the undisputed leader in that category. it continues to grow north of 20%. tohink we were first recognize this untapped opportunity that we think is going to be like a $25 billion addressable opportunity. emily: you have announced a new data sharing co-op where you can track consumers across multiple touch points. how are you planning to protect privacy -- this is a huge thing right now. as our data shifts to the cloud, how do you protect us? shantanu: you are absolutely right and adobe has been a pioneer to make sure we attacked data and lead the charge on what needs to happen with privacy in data. ranked very highly is one of the companies that champion that. with respect to the data co-op

specifically, thwhole idea how can companies target people rather than target devices -- every one of us carries multiple devices. so what we are attempting to do we can identify how an individual might have multiple devices and target them in a more consistent and reliable way. data privacy and confidentiality is front and center. adobe collects this data on behalf of our customers and we will continue to champion it so you get the personalized experience you demand from any website you are visiting. emily: adobe ceo, shantanu narayen, live from las vegas. coming up some we will remember one of silicon valley's greatest. ♪

mark: i'm mark crumpton and you are watching "number west." -- bloomberg west." belgian authorities are looking for a man they believe was terroristn today's

attacks. closed-circuit footage shows a man wearing a black hat with two other people believed to be killed in two other -- with two other people believed to be killed. anyone peoplelled and left more than 230 wounded. islamic state has claimed responsibility. airports that don't require people to undergo security checks until they moved beyond the departure hall now face a new reality. dubai-based consultant says today's attacks in brussels will be a wake-up call for airlines and airports to tighten security. u.s. andommander of nato forces in afghanistan has apologized for the deadly attack on a hospital back in october. 42 people were killed in that strike. general john nicholson that with leaders and relatives of those who died. president obama declared an end to what he called the last remnant of the cold war.

he called on them to pursue a more democratic future. mobile news 24 hours a day for howard by our 24 hundred journalists in more than 150 news bureaus around the world. bloomberg newsroom, i'm mark crumpton. it is just after 6:30 here in new york. i'm joined by paul allen for look at the markets. : we are expecting gains across the asia-pacific today with the exception of the afx future. is this a reaction to what happened in belgium? probably not. it was over one year ago that we had an incident in sydney in the heart of the financial district where a lone gunman held 18 people hostage in two people were tragically killed. but the asa barely blinked.

if you look at the one market open right now, it is currently flat. fun terra shares doing very well after the dairy giant announced an increase in first-half net u.s.t to 276 million dollars. that is despite an environment of week bulk prices which they expect to strengthen. there will be an interim dividend going up to $.40 for the full year. that's just some of what we are watching across the asia-pacific today. ♪ emily: the tech world is mourning the death of intel cofounder andy grove.

he played a central role in the semiconductor industry on which today's internet age was billed. he was a mentor to much of silicon valley's leadership , theding larry ellison late steve jobs and mark zuckerberg, all turning to him for advice. joining me by phone is a man who worked alongside him personally, the retired ceo of intel. you personally took the reins rum andy when you became ceo. i wonder what impact he had on you personally? guest: i worked with andy for about 35 years and greatly wisdom,did his strategic thought and how straightforward he was. direct he was the most human being i've met on the face of the year. had a great strategic idea of what to do next. emily: intel was known as the best managed company, yet he was

also known as a roof as leader. yet people still followed him. what were the hallmarks of his style? : i don't think ruthless is the right word. just practicing constructive confrontation, which is one of those intel is words. you always knew where he was coming from. tolerate shoddy thinking or shallow thinking. he wanted every strategy well thought out and well considered. he didn't mind challenging anyone in the company or anyone in the industry for that matter. it like trying to fill his big shoes and would he continued to try to influence you when you are the ceo and he wasn't? intel has a tremendous history of leaders in the industry.

following those three is a daunting task for anyone, but i worked very closely with andy .nd a consultant basis after he left the ceo position, i followed him and he was respectful of the decisions i made. was a wonderful mentor and didn't overstep or overreach. next generation of management coming into play. emily: young ceos of today revere andy grove. his book about management is like the bible. do you think his leadership style survives generations or 10 other styles the just as successful? craig: there's not one way to manage a company. intoimprinted his style the culture of intel and the company goes to great pains to

indoctrinate all the new hires into that cultural style where strategic thought is important, constructive confrontation, running the indications up and down the company. the lowest level employee at intel feels free to contact the ceo anytime with an idea. those were all things andy put into play and are all alive and well. emily: craig barrett, former intel chairman and ceo. i appreciate you sharing your perspective and stories with us today. thank you. then horowitzith of andreessen harlots who had his own special relationship with andy grove. he was a beloved mentor and teacher. his roletalking about shaping the silicon valley we know today. not only did he build the

foundational company and the microprocessor -- intel was in usuallyry business, that is it, once you get to 13 years and he faced incredibly brutal competition from the japanese, including subsidies from the japanese government which forced him to switch the business that late in his life to microprocessors. something he thought might be a big market that time was tiny. u.s. and thathe being the center of the microprocessing market and the center of the pc industry which led us to be the center of the internet. he was the foundation for the u.s. leadership in technology. big thing. , he was the cultural

foundation of silicon valley in in turningadership around once he achieved what he did and making sure other people knew how to do it was unprecedented and no one has done it as well since, but we have all lived off it and it has made every company that has been built since then followed much better. to my next leads me question -- the idea of a turnaround is elusive to most egg tech companies out there, perhaps only apple truly turning it self around. now we see yahoo!, ibm, going through very difficult times. what do you think andy's advice would he or what would it have an in those final months? there are probably some things he said that i shouldn't share. -- the thingy this

andy and steve jobs had in common was they had the courage to take the company in a direction that nobody at the time thought was a good idea. what you see a lot of leadership is considered more followership. are ao the analysts think good idea and so forth. if you look at what steve jobs did with apple, no analysts, nobody reported on it, nobody was an armchair strategists would have sent either of them in the direction that they took, but they did the work and new with the right direction was and they were ok whatever happened to them. they were ok doing what they believed was right and that defined andy as a leader. the thing people who follow him

takeaway is the courage and determination to do what is right. emily: it seems like so many people want to be entrepreneurs and come to silicon valley. what was his take on young entrepreneurs? some who may be called overly arrogant or naive and what lessons should they take from andy grove? guest: andy continued to believe in people, even the young people considered arrogant. he spent time with a lot of and if you look at his career and what he has done with the company, i think you can see mark zuckerberg learned a lot from andy. the importance of

giving back. if i could characterize andy's career, it was so influenced by how grateful he was that this country took cam man as a refugee at 18 years old, he had nothing. he came over on a boat and got a few dollars from us and we let him be a citizen. stopped trying to repay that and repaid it forward to all of us. that level of gratitude and belief in humanity is what we all try to take from it. emily: ben horowitz, cofounder of andreessen horowitz speaking about the death of andy grove. now with me to discuss is our intel reporter who met andy many times. at of the things mentioned the end there was how he became this way. how did he become so great and -- become so great? guest:

he wrote a book about his process and growing up in europe during the war and being jewish, having what happened to his family when the nazis occupied hungary and when it was bought over by the soviets and how his family were persecuted and how he had to escape. emily: as a reporter, you met him many times. what was he like? guest: scary. inspiring, but scary. everyone talked about his intellectual honesty and his love of the truth. you couldn't really have this flattering conversation with him. he wasn't interested in his own celebrity. was getting about to the truth and he would push people's buttons until he got what he felt was useful out of them. isly: david kirkpatrick still with me. i'm sure you have your own stories about andy having covered silicon valley for so many years. david: listening to always

wonderful comments, the thing that hasn't been mentioned as he played a key role in building the ecosystem that is silicon valley now. this complex relationship between microsoft and intel the lead to the incredible success of the pc, which he was one of the great champions of. bill gates is no pushover and andy was a formidable match for him. i think was necessary in those years that oath companies were led by superstrong, super intelligent, rational, but tasty leaders who wanted to win and wanted to push each other around but knew they had to win together. he wasn't mean, but he was very gruff and straightforward and tough. but incredibly nuanced thinker. there are so many wonderful things about him. he was generous and that may not have come through the other comments. he took time and got to know me

and gave pointers of what he thought i have to think about. emily: your profile of andy opens with this amazing and it showed about a conversation with the jobs and larry ellison. that they went to his house on his birthday to celebrate and they both thought that they would tell him he was the only man in silicon valley that they could ever work for in his response was he would not have hired either of them. he told them they were flaky. david: that sounds very much like andy. he was not going to sugarcoat anything but he wasn't mean. he just told it like it was. you had to be braced for unpalatable truth when you hung around him. but he wasn't going to mess around her waist or time and he wanted to make progress and make a great industry. he was ultimately a great

american who wanted to build up the country as well. emily: david kirkpatrick who has been covering silicon valley for many years. thank you. ian king, thank you. great to have your perspective as well. backer startup is cutting -- sock dock will terminate 5% of its workforce or 33 positions as the ceo shifts from smaller physician practices to large health care organizations. four months ago, the cofounder took the helm as ceo of the doctor appointment booking company and a slew of firing has hit technology startups september with more than a thousand positions eliminated. -- ng up, shot a five shopify may be part of an 8 -- partnership. a

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emily: shopify is said to be on a short list of acquisitions from alphabet. those reports are not stopping the canadian company from expanding partnerships, announcing its expanding the number of platforms it can sell. they have partnered with giants like amazon, facebook and twitter. ceo,with me now is the here in san francisco. thank you for joining us. let's start with the partnership and talk about facebook. how is that partnership going? guest: it is going very well.

idea of let's get volume in more places and give people a place where they can prices and buy things directly. we have great harder ships and this is just a continuation of this now. emily: facebook has tried e-commerce before and it has always is. do people really want to shop on facebook? guest: when you think about it, facebook is advertising and sells products. it is taking advantage of identity and they have the credit card is but has on file. it gives a competitive experience for people shopping. emily: tell me how much in terms of sales have been generated for shopify by the amazon partnership? guest: it has been mostly about

business.services it has been a great partnership and we have been able to have payments directly for amazon and the ability to have hundreds of houses of shoppers directly into the amazon marketplace. you have partnerships with amazon and facebook, what about? what have your talks with google been like? guest: i know it is hard to comment on this. emily: let's talk about the elephant in the room. they have their own efforts and shopping as well. guest: i cannot comment. do you wonder about google as a competitor? do you think about it? google and everyone else

is finally taking e-commerce seriously. everyone realizes what a role it plays. what we want to do is we want to be the neutral deck office. we love helping entrepreneurship and we want to make it easier to build these businesses. no one paid attention to how difficult this was becoming. office and youck are getting your orders in and the packets out. an online store and you can sell directly and that is really all. emily: you are getting so much information about the payment is us. who is winning in payments for social commerce question mark is it paypal or strike? -- or stripe? guest: paypal through their

acquisition -- it is too early to tell but it is another sign retail products are really important to everyone. if you sign up, you automatically get shopify payments. the trudeau government has been making tech a big part of their plan. canadian government keep entrepreneurs for moving to silicon valley? coming to the valley, i always meet a lot of canadian friends. it's certainly an ambn the canadian government to get and keep everyone in canada. and we haven ottawa 4000 people, mostly in canada.

it's a great place to build long-term companies and the new is based on technology. he really understands it and it is fun right now. in town for your own developers conference here in san francisco, thank you for joining us. we will be right back after this quick break. ♪

emily: free syrian men have been charged with launching cyber attacks on media publications like reuters and the "washington post." the men are members of the so-called syrian electronic army. in 2013, they took over the ap twitter feed with also alert president obama was injured in a white house bombing, prompting a wipingnt rob in the now,

out over $80 billion in market value. time now to find out who is ha the bt day ever -- today it's a much needed win for nintendo. shares of the game maker surging after the company announced it new smart phone at added one million users in just three days. the free app is at the top of the app store in japan and let's users create cartoonlike avatars using a photo. that does it for this edition of "bloomberg west." the new york auto show gets underway and we will focus on the future of self driving cars. that's all today from san francisco. ♪

>> and from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." the charlie: how is it to be been in this house? lin-manuel: very normal. i live a few blocks away. i have been here since i was one-year-old. charlie: this is a house of memories. lin-manuel: it is. it was a laboratory for me. i have found so many action