plotting in and in terror attack. officials say the suspect is accused of participating in a terrorist group with plans for at least one attack. he also faces charges of possessing explosives and holding fake documents. the united nations secretary-general ban ki-moon is making a global appeal on behalf of syrian refugees. ban wants to resettle nearly 500,000 syrian refugees around the world over the next three years. says countries can benefit from accepting refugees, as they can bring new skills and experience to aging workforces. supreme court nominee merrick garland met today with democratic senators al franken of minnesota and kirsten gillibrand of new york. the republican leadership refuses to consider judge saying theomination, next president should choose a successor to antonin scalia a. colombia says it will hold peace talks. the government has exploratory

discussions of the national liberation army. the talks raise hopes for and ended to political violence in the country. global news, 24 hours a day, powered by our 2400 journalists and more than 150 news bureaus around the world. from the bloomberg news room, i mark crumpton. cory: i'm cory johnson, in for emily chang, and this is "bloomberg west." microsoft makes a big new bet on artificial intelligence after the last ai project lead to a stream of profanity laced tweets. we will show you what satya nadella has in store. foxconn stopping negotiations to acquire sharp at a discount. through will tell you how the iphone hack has one japanese

stocks soaring. but first tower lead. microsoft opening his developers conference in san francisco. satya nadella making a big bet on artificial intelligence. a week after his last artificial intelligence effort flamed out in an embarrassing and hilarious fashion, microsoft launched a tweeting program which went from antiseptic tweets to racism and sexism hours later, but he is going for take two. >> we want to take that power of human language and apply it more pervasively to all the computing interface and computing interaction. to do that, though, you have to infuse to computers and computing around us intelligence. that means you have to bring forth these technologies of artificial intelligence and machine learning so that we can

teach computers to learn human language, have conversational understanding, teach them about the broad context of people and places and things. context about your preferences, your personal knowledge, so that they can really help you with your everyday tasks and life, both at work and elsewhere. cory: does microsoft have a future in ai? the -- glad to happy with san francisco. you were there all day. what were you talking about? >> a lot of the focus is microsoft has been working on ai for a while. they duhave top-level researchers on it, but the new focus is tai, the first example we got in the u.s., these chat bots, that do things for you in

a humanlike fashion. microsoft wants than in commercial areas, but also to sell you things and provide customer service. they are not only going to make them themselves, what they were pitching is asking people to write bots themselves. they put out a bunch of developer tools. had people say on this program that microsoft is quietly making a big comeback with satya nadella. is microsoft very relevant? >> people are paying attention again, and there is a lot of interesting stuff happening. this is a company that is more to do to the -- more tuned in to the overall state of programming and coding, but every now and then the old microsoft comes out and that things happen. cory: interesting. from to perspective -- microsoft is a company that dominated technology, that flat-out dominated every conversation about technology regardless of

the aspect not that long ago. 10, 15 years ago. now it's in the background. what matters most is microsoft? >> what matters most is building a future. steve ballmer, that is the one big hit on his legacy. it put microsoft in this on position, the pass is still haunting them. for the future, it is carving out a new market. artificial intelligence seems to be a strong part of that; conversation is a platform. cory: that sounds thoroughly ridiculous. of asurhink the success -- >> i say "asher." cory: their we go. that's a huge success for them, even with amazon and their backyard.

but you see a lot of your clients talking about this. >> absolutely. it's part of the big two. ist microsoft hopes to do is use intelligence into that delivery of cloud-based services. cory: like a bouncing paperclip that will help us use word? [laughter] >> in this instance, developers can call it, the different api's -- walking around the convention center, there were all these cameras. and when you walk by, they can tell you what your emotional state is. oh, your happy. oh, you're sad. you're 31, 51. they are trying to make those tools available, along with certain recommendations, so developers can incorporate them. cory: your thoughts about the cloud? >> i think they're killing it. they're numbere two.

ppy.-- we're back to clic anwas based on the idea that interface like that could help people deal with microsoft word, and things like watson are trying to do it for the whole world. work? didn't clippy the idea of a conversational insistent wasn't -- assistant wasn't bad, but it did know when to shut up. the idea that microsoft is pitching is with ai in machine learning, these things will understand your context and will understand what you need and when you need it. that's really the best for them. they are not the only company pitching this kind of thing. cory: yeah. to any of you use amazon echo? your take? >> is catching on for a reason. it actually seems to understand natural language. that is something satya nadella -- cory: it's not just that it

understands you. siri works, but i don't use it for a lot. >> people use siri for things like -- they are in the middle of driving and they need to send a text, which is ok, but it's not super intelligent. it's not like order me something. today they showed the idea -- you're chatting about your says -- do youot want me to make a recommendation on your favorite hotel? that is proactive intelligence. cory: is this anything more than the advancement of moore's law, computational power along the line of machine learning? that is been talked about for 70 years, but we are finally at a point that only because of these advancements -- there is something going on. >> when you talk to people in the world of ai, they will tell you that things on deep learning, there's a new statistical approach, new models

for representing knowledge, doing weird things with data. new things are happening, there are new approaches, lots of excitement. but the basic idea is still the same. is not entirely dissimilar from what we saw with clippy. you have huge amounts of information available to everybody, that they can use for the open web, and on these databases to play with. hundreds of millions of users to interact with. cory: yeah. incredible stuff. i wish alan turning was here to see this. thank you very much. a stock we are watching, the world's largest maker of memory chips reporting its first quarterly loss since 2013. tank,prices are in the

with revenue for the current center resulting in a five to $.12 loss for every share. terry gallus on how tricky negotiating worked. this is an amazing story of negotiation. ♪

cory: we have a little red book -- we hear little red book and we think communism, but now that same name has become a symbol of capitalist success. giving a $1 billion valuation to online shopping sites and overseas merchants of local buyers. the funds will bankroll the little red book expansion. a new deal -- the main assembler iphones and the first television sets. get an is able to reduced price in the stake of sharp. the university of michigan seen, evenas never though we talk all the time, we this is antantly, amazing story, what happened with foxconn, with sharp. sharp had another suitor in

japan that was going to make some help to keep it a japanese company. talk about what foxconn did to seal the deal. >> foxconn is pretty clever. i don't ever want to negotiate with them over anything. they came in, they made an offer that was a stronger offer than the incj deal. a typical japanese deal that involved government and who knows what else. foxconn comes in and puts a deal on the table that is much more valuable to the company. the company, of course, takes it. then the company gains the foxconn sword. take the sword; here are some big contingent liabilities we didn't tell you about. foxconn knew what to do. minute,d, well, wait a we have got to rethink this. then after the other suitor walked away, they were like, there were problems of

this problem business?we aren't paying that . the other suitors already gone. >> you clear the competition out, and then you faint as if you won't do the deal. you have them so scared that they might be stuck with their creditors. sharp isn't in a bad financial situation; they have gone through to japanese-style financial prop ups in the last -- cory: he's bag. sorry, we lost you. >> yeah. says, goshfeints and maybe we won't even do this deal. everybody is nervous, and then they say, look, we will do it at ¥88 per share, and people breathe a sigh of relief, because foxconn scare them into thinking there might not be a deal. an importants

company, not just historically, but they have put so much money into new plans for lcds, that they were really at a loss when the chinese economy slowed down, yes? >> yeah. they built all these panel plans and solar panel plans. the timing couldn't be worse. but sharp is a real gem in japan. sharp as one of the innovative japanese companies. not be will copy and make it cheaper company. they were technology leaders and still are, and the brand's beloved in japan. is a top-tier brand. that is a very humbly experience, a difficult experience, and a new experience, because the old japanese troika, who traditionally love each other, usually they hold together and keep japanese things japanese. this now goes to a taiwanese

company. it's the first for a major electronics company in japan, and it's a bit of a shock. cory: finally, i wonder what you think foxconn's ambitions are with sharp. what do you think they want? >> they want to expand their margins. they are a screwdriver shop; they put together pieces of the iphones in turn them into an iphone using really cheap labor. that cheap labor is becoming more expensive; their margins are getting squeezed. they need to get into higher value things like screens that sharp is so good at. foxconn has got to move from being low margin to high-value, higher-margin, and sharp gives them both a brand but also a product. the screens are very expensive. give them a product to get margins they want to see. cory: interesting stuff.

eric gordon. university of michigan, thanks a lot. for that when he took a look at private holdings in technology last month and didn't like what it saw. the company cut the value of its marketx, zenefits down 38%. it wasn't all bad news. others liked it more. snapchat was marked up. u nextp, tesla's most important product unveiling ever. everything we know, coming up next. ♪

cory: thursday could be the most

important day ever for tesla. they are lifting the curtain on the highly anticipated model 3. it is the everyman's tesla -- cheaper electric car. tom randall has a preview of the model 3 preview. m: this is the big one. the car that elon musk says will take electric cars mainstream. here is what we know. we're expecting something similar to the $70,000 model s, but with fewer bells and whistles. it should be about 20% smaller, and there is no word on whether it will have the distinctive oval brand. the model 3 will start at $35,000, but that's before government incentive, which in the u.s. could bring it below $30,000. that's an extremely competitive

price for the entry-level luxury market they will compete in. it is promising 200 miles per charge, but might give more for a larger battery. they are designing a whole new battery architecture to make it cheaper and easier to build. elon musk predicts that in the 10-15 years, on new cars will be able to drive themselves. therefore you can expect the model 3 will probably have some autonomous driving, even if drivers have to pay extra to activate it. if you want to get your hands on a model 3, you will have to get in line. they will start taking deposits on march 31, but the first deliveries will come until the end of next year. cory: here with more about the head to. -- had to bloomberg. we're joined by ramy

inocencio. ramy: today we saw a rally, call it a yellen two-day dove rally. nasdaq all, dow, and opt on the order of about half a percent. the highest since the end of last year or early this year. funds's are no pricing in a 50% chance of a hike, no earlier than this coming december. a lot of change happening with what creators are envisioning. hop into my bloomberg. i want to show you the performance of the nasdaq, so far year to date, and i want to direct your attention to this green box here. the nasdaq for this month is up by 6.83%. we are definitely pairing the losses we saw from the cross

equities, down 7.8% in january. the last time we had a good market performance for the nasdaq was back in october, 2015. five months since we have seen a good rally. let's take a look at what's happening with some individual stocks right now. first off to the nasdaq's top two. 1.8%,rising, up by nearly rallying to a three-month high after an upgrade. they are also increasing their 12 month price target by $10. they say sales growth is up 18% in the past year. afteroft up by 6/10 of 1% the microsoft build conference with the ceo'. there is an interesting split that is happening; elsewhere shares and amazon shares are saying, with amazon

that home services rose every month by about 20% since last year. this includes services like home gutter cleaning, tv wall mounting, and repairs. on the flipside, facebook and netflix are going the other way. 5%.ebook is down by 1.2 they did hit a record high on tuesday so we could be seeing some profit taking their, but netflix is down by nearly 2%, basically getting some heat from the scc, saying that because netflix has admitted it is throttling streaming speeds, its filings should be re-examined. before i send it back to you, i want to head over to asia, to japan and the land of the rising sun, because the companies sun corporation is in focus. in the past two days it has risen by 12%, and we are talking about this because they are at the center of what's happening with the apple and fbi.

suncorp owns the israeli data that has beenpany implicated in unlocking the iphone of the san bernardino terrorist. sun corp?s it's the owner of something called pachinko. it's what you can see on the screen -- it's the equivalent of a pinball machine in japan, but they can gamble and earn money. that's what sun corp is all about. that's my shares have been rallying over the past few weeks. cory: we will dig into that deeper. thank you very much. ♪

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procedure were outlawed in the u.s. the comment came during the taping of a town hall meeting set to air on msnbc tonight. in a written statement emailed to bloomberg politics, mr. trump writes, quote, like ronald reagan, i am pro-life with exceptions, which i have outlined numerous times. end quote. mr. trup trails texas senator ted cruz by 10 points in wisconsin. that's according to a new marquette law school poll. cruz leads trump 40% to 30%. john case you can has 21% -- kasich has 21%. bernie sanders has a slight edge over hillary clinton, 49% to 45%. the food and drug administration is approving an experimental blood test to screen for zika virus. u.s. territories with active zika infections, primarily puerto rico, will be able to resume collecting and screening their own blood. the brussels airport will remain closed to passenger flights until at least

tomorrow. it's been out of operation since last week's terrorist attacks. once the airport does reopen, i eye -- arriving passengers will be september to a hang ar to collect their bags. -- hangar to collect their ags. it's just after 6:30 p.m. wednesday here in new york. 10:30 thursday morning in sydney, where i'm joined by bloomberg's paul allen. good morning. paul: good morning. we're expecting a mostly positive day across the asia pacific. following a good lead from wall street. expected on the nikkei and the asx. new zealand currently the only market open. running for 90 minutes now, barely in positive territory. but we'll be closely watching chinese banking stocks in hong kong when they open, three banks reporting very weak profit growth yesterday. we have icbc reporting $42 billion. the weakest growth in a decade. china construction net income up just .1%. bank of china up .7%.

this is going to see a weakening dividend payout as well. all to do with bad loans rising and a slowing economy. bank of china president saying the era of double-digit profit growth has ended. a brief word on steel out of indiana. they may be looking to sell their u.k. assets bought a decade ago for $10 billion. the book value now worth close to zero. that's, again, thanks to cheap chinese steel exports. the u.k. government saying it may look to intervene to save some jobs in the british steel industry. that's just some of what we're watching around the asia pacific today. i'm paul allen for bloomberg trs -- tv. ♪ >> streaming music business, teaser, the most popular music stream hg service in france, that's the beginning of their

market ambitions. company hoped to fuel international growth. those plans were scotched. we sat down with their c.e.o. and asked about the current prospects for public offering. >> we decided athe time that the market wasn't there. wasn't right. some conditions were complicated. and we always have other options. we just finalized our funding privately. we raised $100 million euros. and we keep all the options open at this stage, no rush. reporter: when you talk about the options not being there, is it because it's difficult to get funding on the markets, because markets are volatile, or you saw something uglier? guest: i think there were two issues at that time, a, the markets started to get very volatile, obviously. tech companies like us always need good market support in the first place. second thing, there was just a few months after the apple launch, the impact coming there, and some concerns about other groups which didn't make

the environment easy. the good news was we had options. reporter: how do you make yourself different to others? you're kind of the incumbent. you're the new guy on the block. guest: we're the new guy on the block but the big nest france, for example. so we have been around for a while. i think the three areas, all of us of course are competing on the music side. we focus a lot on the personalized experience, based on algorithm. we have a product called flow which is unique in the industry. second point is that we are the first one that decided to go beyond music. we do audio books, we do sport events, we do talk shows, for example. so everything -- reporter: there you go. you can put the pulse on. we've signed a deal, people. this is breaking news on the pulse on bloomberg. give me a sense of the u.s. market. this is the biggest, it's the toughest to crack. i know you're very present in france and a lot of investors say maybe you're a little too close to orange. how do you make sure that you crack the u.s. market? is it pricing?

is it offering something different? do you need to get some of the bands and the music acts on board more? guest: no, i think the u.s. market really needs, in our case at least, a good partnership. we built a decent model partnership like orange and other companies. once the u.s. opens markets up for those kind of deals on the tell could he side, i think we're going to be there because we're one of the big threes in the world anyhow. we have a successful partnership with at&t for contradict. -- cricket. we are observing the market, we just haven't found the right timing to go in there. reporter: do you have to spend more on marketing? guest: the u.s., there's a good example of other companies which left the market. with a few hundred million, you don't do the trick. so either you commit it very strongly, and if you commit it very strongly, you have to put a lot of financial resources behind it. and it's a question of options. reporter: how? i don't understand. is it social media? everybody knows spotify in the u.s. if you want to tap into the

market share, what kind of narrative do you have to play out for consumers? guest: it's a mix of social media, it's a mix of tradition alameda, a mix of p.r. and communication. it's all about complaining to people what you get, what is different, but to be fair, i think the biggest issue for all streaming companies is how do you access the consumer, what are the best sales channels and telco partnerships are a very good solution. reporter: a lot of music acts have been wanting a say in what music goes into what service. some of your competitors have given into that. will you? guest: yeah. we are in the constant debate with people as well. i think we explain very good to the artists and the music industry what the values are. the big debate has been always on the free side. on the free side, what's going to happen there. which is fair. overall i think we all agree more on the opportunity is huge. we're at the beginning of a big, big market. already now more than 50% of

the revenue for universal are digital revenues. you can see the potential. reporter: emerging markets, are there any markets, any countries, that are willing to pay for how they listen to music? guest: we're the leader in the emerging markets. we have africa and latin america. we have some asian markets. good example, colombia, for example, was a very small market for the music industry. now it's a double-digit million dollar market because of our market leader position there. you can talk about south africa. other places. those markets are going to leap frog. people jump into streaming and the opportunity there. reporter: what needs to happen? infrastructure? guest: yeah. infrastructure. it's the mobile economy. it's mobile phones as a tool, independent payment infrastructure. reporter: five, 10 years away or shorter? guest: i think it's shorter. you can see the kind of top level of customers take music services now. you can see latin america, it goes very fast. africa, it may take a bit longer. reporter: is there potential -- latin america, we talk about

brazil, we talked about the politics of brazil. are these things that you look at? i don't know how you do your pricing plans. guest: we adjust the price -- a, we pay in local currency. and we pay the royalties in local currency. to the labels. b, of course, we adjust pricing to the purchase power of the individual markets. and you have to understand, in most of those places, in the emefrpbling markets, there was never big revenues anyhow for the music industry. every new revenue you generate is very positive. reporter: what's your biggest headache? distribution? funding? or currency? you get back all the money in euros. guest: two things. to explain to people what superior product we have and the streaming industry. and the second part is, which is normal, prescription got ath the beginning, you have to do a lot of up front investment in brand and distribution. those are the two issues you have to focus on. cory: deezer c.e.o. talking to bloomberg in london.

meanwhile, spotify said to have raised $1 billion in debt, according to people fal with -- familiar with the matter. that debt is a loan that converts into stock, convertible shares that turn in certain scenarios to class a shares. ic this has some intoxicate terms. we're monitoring that story from london. reporter: there's a lot of i.p.o. noise coming from the music streaming world today. with deezer chief executive telling the french business may revisit the share sell. it seems spotify has also started the clock on its own i.p.o. by raising funds that get more costly for the business if it doesn't sell shares in a year. the sweden based streaming company with presence in about 60 countries has raised $1 billion in convertible debt. with investors such as capital. perhaps using the instrument rather than a normal fundraising to ensure it doesn't have to lower its previous valuation of $8.5

billion. betting it will be worth more in a year's time. now, the reported that spotify has signed up to giving investors in the debt a higher coupon than the current 5% and the juicier discount in the share sale if they have to wait longer than 12 months for an i.p.o. it's a pretty big bet by spotify. as it tackles the challenge from apple music, and has to pay high fees to the music labels. but spotify is already winning the race versus the competition with 30 million paying subscribers and about 100 million who listen free with advertising. now, it's a race to the i.p.o. cory: that was bloomberg in london. coming up, technology that promises to make virtual reality nausea a symptom of the past. and, shares of a little known japanese pin ball machine maker are soaring after reports it may be behind the f.b.i. hack of an iphone. that incredible story next. ♪

cory: apple computer, major league baseball and apple have struck a deal that puts ipads in the dugout for the coming season. those will be stripped-down ipads sms. no texting the official score. but players and coaches will have access to statistics, videos, scouting reports, all during games via special mlb dugout app. partnership and the baseball's decade-old ban on the use of computers during games. apple says it's hit a milestone in supply chain transparency. 100% of its suppliers are audited for the use of conflict minute rals and subject to a third-party review. sticking with apple, all reports point to israel's cell bright as the company used by the f.b.i. to unlock an iphone

used by the san bernardino gunman. their parent company saw shares soar 40% since the f.b.i. announced a third party was indeed able to hack that phone. but they may be known better as a maker of pin ball-like gambling games. amazing story. i did some work on this company today. sort of amazed that they've got an important enough majority of the business, but an important part of the business making these pin ball machines. guest: yeah. sun corps sounds like the kind of company we should know about. it's the name that seems omni present. but it's completely sort of off the radar. if you look it up, it has a rudimentary website. it's like a holding company. it has a number of different things underneath. one of which is this israeli firm. cory: small company. colored in the same suit. guest: sorry. just glad you're not wearing the pink thing from the other day. cory: this is an interesting

company. maybe we should think of it as a company that made slot machines and stuff like that. but interesting that they're in this business. this thing, though, not a huge secret in the intelligence community. f.b.i.'s had a contract with them for a long time. guest: yeah. the f.b.i. does contract with a lot of different people. i think when i was looking into this first sort of last week, people were saying there are half a dozen, maybe 10 companies who could do this and a number of those work with the f.b.i. in some capacity. actually in local bureau, there might be a little office here in san francisco as far as we know which could be two device who were super expert in one aspect of technology and they might help the f.b.i. local lowelly. cory:s it's not just software, it's a machine, right? guest: yeah. eople talk about a cellebrite. cory: it's a machine, the

company's based in israel. the parent company is based in japan. it's been around for a while. guest: yeah. it was bought by the japanese in 1999. but as far as i understand, it remains largely independent. h.q., c.e.o., israeli, they do have offices over here in the u.s. i think it's largely a sales operation. most of the r&d is done out of israel. cory: one of the stories said there's 500 employees in a suburb of tel aviv. there's a lot of cybersecurity work that happens out of israel. guest: yeah. it's one of the reasons i think bloomberg themselves says a lot of tech innovation happening in that part of the world. cory: any notion -- here's the question. if the f.b.i.'s had a contract with these guys for a long time, the f.b.i. saying the inability to get this, or let me rephrase it, the f.b.i. said they needed apple to get into this phone and they didn't need apple to get into this phone. but one wonders, when they realized they didn't need apple to get into the phone, and if the court case had testify -- itself was what some say it seemed to be, an excuse to get a legal ruling, to get into

lots of iphones. guest: i think that's one of the things the legal experts have been talking about. if it seems as though the f.b.i. could have done this for a lightning time, then it means that judges are going to be very sir come spectacular going forward when they look at these rulings and they will perhapses have a second look and say to law enforcement agencies, you sure you can't do this? who do you have on your books, who are you using, go away and have another try and come back to me. cory: we don't know if the founders of this company came out of the famous unit 8200 out of the israeli army that leads to a lot of companies doing cybersecurity. but it suggests that israel once again has some of the strongest ability to hack and get information when they want information. guest: if you think about it, going back six years now, you think about the bug which infested a huge number of factories around the world and that was people suspect came out of some sort of combination of israel and the u.s. and it targeted iranians.

cory: it's been reported that the u.s. and israel combined in that. certainly a focus in both defensive and offensive tools. guest: yeah. clearly a huge amount of ability there. people still say that the greatest concentration of mines in this area is the n.s.a. and so that's another question people ask. if the f.b.i. can't do it, surely the n.s.a. can. great sports coat. good story. great story as well. we appreciate it. one thing we're geeking out about today, potential cure for virtual reality induced nausea. mayo clinic has been working on integrated hardware and software meant to synchronize what users see and feel wlile wearing a v.r. het sed. within a 10th of a second. it causes motion sickness that people can feel when using v.r. the mayo clinic says it's licensed this technology to an l.a.-based entertainment company but none of the hardware makers have chosen to use this technology. key vote in front of the s.e.c. could make it a lot harder for internet providers to track

your every move. we're going to ask the experts what this means next. ♪

cory: story we've been following, pandora may sell the south dakota radio station it bought last year to get lower music royalty rates. a regulatory filing, it's re-evaluating whether to remain a broadcaster. earlier this week, pandora announced that c.e.o. and co-founder -- i'm sorry, the co-founder, once the c.e.o., will be c.e.o. again as it struggles to fend off rivals such as spotify and even apple. turning now to federal communications commission. looking at two key measures that will impact every american on the internet. on thursday the s.e.c. votes on privacy rules meant to give consumers control over their personal information.

as the i.s.p.'s collect information on them had they use the internet. for example, with web -- which websites you visit and how long you've been on them. they could also have a big impact on revenue. but not to some of the other biggest players in the internet. also before the s.e.c., perhaps the most complex spectrum auction in u.s. history. a two-way auction that could net the government up to $40 billion. brad barker in new york. love me some f.c.c. stories. and this privacy one seems like it's a big deal. guest: it's a completely big deal. thanks for having me. the f.c.c. have been awful busy essentially this privacy rule tomorrow, had they vote on it, will allow consumers like you and i to opt out of being tracked by the cable and mobile broadband companies and them having share that information with advertisers. cory: talk to me about this. basically, with the latest in

technology, the i.s.p.'s can see a lot more about what you're doing and do something with it. they can start to develop the kind of profiles that other firms, like, let's say facebook, and google, already have about users. except that these are the guys who don't just have some content. they own the pipes. guest: they own the pipes. this telecom data business that is supposed to grow from $24 billion to $80 billion over the know, ve years, and, you to take this business away from e telecom companies, just as their wireless companies may be matures, would not be a good thing for them. and the internet companies, when you look at companies like google, who gets 90% of their revenue from advertising, and facebook, who gets 95% of their revenue from advertising, they'll be able to continue to do this. cory: what does this mean -- look at the m&a activity, though, right? you have comcast acquiring nbc universe and all of the websites that go with that.

what does it mean for their ability to use those websites like other websites? what does it mean for verizon which has acquired a.o.l. and a lot of the media business, including ad businesses that function from the cookies of their users, what's 2 going to mean for those companies and the properties they've acquired to build up their business? guest: that's a great question. verizon has acquired a.o.l. and millennial media. they acquired them to help them create data-driven tracking platforms and if you and i can opt out of this program, you know, this is not going to help verizon. and also, something else to think about, verizon's been mentioned as a possible buyer of yahoo!. currently right now, yahoo! can collect user data freely, but if i.s.p. were to buy them, you know, that would change, of course. cory: does it mean that they would have to spin these things off? does it mean that google d and -- and facebook and yahoo! get a competitive advantage against

a.o.l., against a.o.l.'s ad serving business, against even some of the nbc universal online assets? guest: absolutely. they'd have a competitive advantage. something to keep in mind here. this rule that they're going to vote on tomorrow, would take six to eight months to get finished. if they were to do it. and net neutrality decision, you know, according to one of my colleagues, is supposed to be handed down likely in the next month. and depending on how that plays out, if that doesn't go well for the f.c.c., there's likelihood this rule would not proceed further. cory: so, really quickly, what's our expectation to vote ? re do we know how the commissioners are leaning? guest: sure. tom will win this vote 3-2. it will go along party lines. cory: very interesting. i'll be watching this one because i think it's a really big deal. we'll watch what this means for verizon and at&t and others. good stuff. thank you very much. guest: thanks. cory: that does it for this edition of "bloomberg west."

tomorrow, full conversation of tesla ahead of the highly -- coverage of tesla ahead of the highly important modsle three unveiling. we'll look at all the bells and whistles and discuss whether or not we can believe it or not. that's it from "bloomberg west" here from san francisco. ♪

charlie: jack lew is here, the u.s. secretary of treasury. a role since february 2013. he was previously president obama's chief of staff. and prior to that, he was a director of the office of management and budget. a role that he also played in president clinton's cabinet. on wednesday he will deliver a speech on the impact of u.s. sanctions policy. he will deliver that speech at the international peace in washington. coordinated sanctions led by the u.s. were integral to reaching the agreement with iran to suspend their nuclear