♪ john: welcome to this edition of the "best of with all due respect." we saw wisconsin deliver a big boost to ted cruz and bernie sanders, and they blow through clinton and donald trump. we watched as the race came to the empire state, home turf of the two front runners and birthplace of bernie sanders. in an interview following her loss, hillary clinton gave her rival a taste of new york magic. >> jeff weaver said something very interesting, inflammatory on the air, saying the clinton campaign, secretary clinton, the

need to be careful not to destroy the democratic party merely in pursuit of her own ambition to be president. very strong words, your response? hillary clinton: it is just ludicrous on the face of this. i have been campaigning for democrats, fundraising for democrats, recruiting democrats to run and win for a really long time. i think about 40 years. i understand they are getting anxious, i get that. but they need to be thoughtful about what they do say, because at the end of the day we need a democratic president. he has been campaigning now for a year on his core issues of inequality, which i agree with, and i have put forward my own plan. in the interview it seemed unclear as to whether he understood how dodd frank -- i

think i was a little bit surprised there did not seem to be a lot of substance to what he was saying. john: she went after him hard, harder than i seen after her go after him directly. do you think she is behaving this way, taking on sanders more aggressively, because she is worried or she senses his jugular is exposed and she can go get it? mark: she is not worried. she is frustrated, and she wants him out of the race. she wants them to stop winning. he is not going to get out of the race if he keeps winning primaries and caucuses. she is trying to go after him the way candidates do to have him stop winning, not because she is worried he will get more delegates, but she wants him out of the race so she can focus on the general election. john: there are times when campaigns send around remarks to rivals. it is political posturing. i think the way she is probably personally offended by how vapid

on some level so sanders' responses were to some of the questions. i cannot believe this guy -- if i answered these questions, i would be torn apart. in addition to frustration, she is amazed and in some ways appalled by how weak sanders was on substance. mark: if he beat her in new york, this contest will go to june. the means hillary clinton will gained no advantage having wrapped up her nomination any sooner than donald trump or ted cruz, because they will go to june too the matter what. she wants him out of the race. she is try to take advantage of weaknesses to get him out, and she thinks they are abundant. she also knows, or at least one of her advisers knows, new york is a place where if you are not playing offense, you are playing defense. they want to go after sanders on the looming debate in the new

york media. john: they know it is competitive, but unlike wisconsin where they said earlier they thought they were in trouble and they thought they were being honest, the extent to which they think of competitive here, they are overstating confidence. she is going for the jugular. mark: speaking of bernie sanders, last night, the vermont senator pulled off a big win against clinton in wisconsin. he beat her 53% to 47%. she took 46 delegates. -- 36 delegates. sanders campaign continues to say they have momentum on their side to secure the nomination this summer while the clinton said the sanders scenario is impossible, going to improbable. if you are making a best case for sanders being the democratic nominee, how does that play out? john: he does win in new york, but i think she is the front runner for sure.

and the battle from wisconsin momentum, that has surprising victories in pennsylvania, new jersey, maybe he beats her in california. not saying highlights, but that is the best scenario. he manages to ride the momentum and gets close enough in the pledged delegates he can make the argument he is the better candidate in the general election than trump or ted cruz. mark: if you look at the calendar coming up, a lot of states, if he wins new york he can eat her in. the guy will not get out of the race, but he still needs relatively big wins starting with new york, and that he needs some prominent superdelegates to express doubts about her. he needs head to head national polls to continue to favor him against mythical matchups against republicans, and then he probably needs another intervening event, something with the e-mail investigation, something with the clinton family, something else that causes democrats to say, maybe we should go to the convention like republicans are doing and have this out as a family in philadelphia.

john: thinking about sanders point of view, the strength of his argument if he can get close on the superdelegates front, they are designed to keep someone from being unelectable. mike now, he is performing -- right now he is performing better than her against republican rivals. some cases substantially better. that will be, in theory, a powerful argument. to say to the superdelegates i am better than her. mark: and the morning joe interview with joe asked hillary clinton should bernie sanders get out, she says, i remember would people tried to get me out, i was doing well, i did not want to get out. so is long as the keys winning, he should not be out of the race. great moments in new york's primary history. two guys that know all about it. right after this. ♪

♪ bill clinton: good morning, john. john: how are you? bill clinton: i am disappointed you did not call me bubba. [laughter] that is an honorable term where i come from. john: that was bill clinton and john imus back in 1992. as our next guest will remember he helped get the nomination in that fabled year. the entire state is the key for hillary clinton just like it was for her husband. here to talk about it, john podhoretz, editor of the commentary and adam nagourney, , the los angeles times bureau chief in a former tabloid reporter who joins us from l.a.. adam try to convey to anyone who , does not understand what a competitive new york primary on

the democratic side, the republican side try to convey , what that is like. >> every time because a primary people like me, new yorkers talking about it not being true, it is crazy. new york invented 20 47 before there was 24/7. it is on the last places in the world except london were you have a really competitive newspaper culture. you have larger-than-life reporters who really know how to make news and view their role as trying to provoke candidates. we saw that and you also have players in the form of 1992 as mario cuomo and david dinkins, who liked the metal event, which we are seeing with bill de blasio. it is incredible, really intense. i believe clinton by the in the process liked what happened in new york. despite everything going on, being heckled by an aids protester, he did not have a new york kind of time.

mark: i'm excited about the next two weeks, and i don't want to be one of the old people that talks about the good old days, but what about this event in the bronx? there were no reporters -- there were three questions and two were from national reporters. in my day into national reporters try to dominate a press conference there would , have been a revolt. i don't see a tabloid competition the way it is, local news covering politics the way they used to. is this a toned down, slimmed-down new york primary as compared to 1992? >> sure, absolutely. and you have the phenomenon of a lot more local talk radio in new york in the 1990's that you don't have now. i think there is a story you are missing, which is this is the first time in our lifetime that a republican primary is going to matter at all in any way, shape, or form. i think listening to you guys i think trump has it in the bag, but there are 400,000

republican, registered republicans in new york city to whom nobody has ever made the slightest gesture ever. ever. we are not talking about -- except for running for congress -- no one has ever looked at them, no one has ever talked to them. >> mccain and bush a little bit. they were ambushed a little bit. john podhoretz: in 2012, the congressional districts, 3000 people voted in the republican primary. 3000 people. the possibility of playing regional politics games here on the part of trump, cruz, and kasich, that has never happened before in new york. mark: adam, from 3000 miles away but watching closely, what do you think bernie sanders' potential is to make mischief or hillary clinton? adam nagourney: i think it is

high and because of the tabloid culture. new york news reporters have always liked stirring it up. i think they like sticking at the clinton. bernie sanders kind of get that. bill clinton -- excuse me, hillary clinton and donald trump know the new york culture we are talking about, which i still think exists. i know your point from earlier, but it is still a little early there. they had a plan and they went through it -- will matter a lot. we saw the shortfalls. i am not really getting at with sanders in the daily news interview and made all of those, what i would say, intemperate remarks. he was saying, the daily news, it is just a dumb tabloid. he made it to arthur brown. if you had been around new york , guys like that are kind of legend and the are getting older and not getting out to the bronx as much as they used to, but factors in the want to make an impact and they do. they know their stuff. john podhoretz: can i make a contrary argument?

interview was a disaster for sanders if you assume the sanders voter cares about issues. this is the reverse mirror image of trump. they are not groaning on issues, they are voting on one thing or two things, feelings screwed, pitchforking the banks. we read december think this guy can't possibly be president. he doesn't know anything. he's just blabbing about nothing, and yet, here sanders is having won six straight. he won a primary in wisconsin. mark: in the culture of the new york media, maybe for sanders voters, hillary supporters also -- it creates a fire that keeps him from breaking through. john podhoretz: that is the question. how stoked are hillary supporters anywhere? and wisconsin last night her voters in the exit poll in that said 13% were enthusiastic about her possibility of being

president. 13%. i don't think there is stoking, i don't know they are stoked. that is the big question. mark: you are out 3000 miles, but you hillary clinton in the state. it is now a decade since she was elected statewide, elected twice statewide as senator in 2000 and 2006. does she still have a real hold over the new york democratic electorate or is she vulnerable here in a significant way? adam nagourney: i would not question for a second that she still has a hold. i think she still is to work for it. any advantage she has is she lived through the campaign, she gets the culture, so she knows. winning with her husband, has run two campaigns, so three campaigns. she knows it. i don't think there is the kind of hard condensing disconnection -- connection among new york

voters. choice if i had a would rather it be her that bernie sanders in the culture we are talking about. john: let me ask you a question about what you do if you are hillary clinton. bernie sanders will come here. he will have a huge rally in washington square park. 15,000 people. she will never have crowd like that, never does. what does she do to counter the perception bernie sanders is going to show up in new york and be generating all of this enthusiasm for visibly in front of all the cameras in the media capital of the world? john podhoretz: i would go to a lot of local media, talk to every colonist that i could talk to. i can go to, go on the brian lehrer show 18 times. moderate to liberal voters to remind them how they like her. i would play that card. i think she also needs to boost her vote among african-americans

in some of these northern states. in wisconsin last night, it is not bad to get 71%, but in the south she was getting 90%-92% of the african-american vote. if you can get that number up, she will be solid in new york. i don't think there is relative indication she has met incredibly high percentage at the bank. mark: will we see trump either ride the subway or eat a knisch before the primary? adam nagourney: yes on subway. john podhoretz: he is a germophobe. he will not get on the subway. john: adam nagourney, please come back. we need you here.

up next, what alex wagner learned from the badges for bernie. ♪

♪ john: last night was the finale of the nomination fight on the circus. we do this with bloomberg politics. we will be taking a break before coming back on the summer before the convention. we bought alex wagner and mark mckinnon. alex got the chance to talk to bernie sanders supporters we are now calling naturally the bernie badgers. alex: we are at the badgers

for bernie headquarters in wisconsin. this is the installation of the sanders campaign. totally grassroots, young, fired up idealistic people. it is a movement. anyone in this room undecided? ok, i am kidding. i figured. how are you guys feeling about tuesday? >> feeling better today. alex: wisconsin is a big deal in terms of the narrative it is . a primary states, it could play a pivotal role. >> wisconsin, it's not only the birth of the progressive movement, but the birth of mccarthyism. alex: i believe it is not the -- it is the most polarized state. >> it's a swing state because of the polarization. alex: let me ask your question, only one of them will be the nomi what is going to happen? >> people will vote for bernie. >> are you saying he is not the nominee ? >> the question is, hillary

supporters never get it. what happens when she wins? >> we have attracted so many groups that normally do not vote. and the question is, if the candidate inspired you to get involved no longer in the race, what is the likelihood you will fall in line with the party? alex: if you are faced with donald trump and hillary clinton -- >> it is tough for a lot of people. as of right now i am for burning right now. alex: there is a very strong emotional core, right? that is central to the organizing efforts of the campaign too. they are really confident about madison. they feel good about the state. they think they are going to win. john: back from wisconsin, joining us now for the magic of television, we are here with alex wagner. thanks for coming on this show, having been on that show. alex: i am following wherever you have a broadcast, i want to be a part of it. john: you spent much time following bernie sanders and also hillary clinton.

give us your sense of how the democratic race is shaping out. alex: i liken it to a engagement. it's like asking the matrox -- betrothed-- tehe what do you do then marriage does not work out? they don't want to think about the possibility bernie sanders does not get the nomination. it is still a massive crowd, very committed, very engaged, largely young people who see a stark difference between the two democratic candidates. right now, they are full steam ahead. they are officially the badgers for bernie. mark: you had the same experience that you saw in the clip, which is sanders supporters tend to be like the most well-informed people i ever talked to in politics. why has that manifested itself? alex: for a lot of them, is the first time they have really been engaged in a national political process, and they've gotten really informed. they read up. one of the people in that bernie badgers colloquy, he found out

about bernie sanders from the bbc. they are getting media from different sources and they are going deep dive. they listen. we went to a bunch of bernie sanders events in wisconsin, and he gets into the issues. they know those issues and it is almost like a call and response. i liken it to a revival. they are going to hear the good word. it's almost scripture for the sanders followers. mark: but they know a ton about the delicate process. ate process. alex: and that is dangerous for clinton, because they are convening to talk about clinton delegates versus superdelegates. if everyone thinks it will be kumbaya and the dominoes fall for clinton -- john: this is like a web extra. wadr exclusive, we showed you going to a clinton rally and the

sanders rally talking to people in line at both places, stark differences in terms of the level of commitment. talk about that, compare and contrast. alex: at the clinton event, which was the last of it she was going to have before she left wisconsin, it was a good crowd. but i went through the crowd asking people what they thought about her chances in wisconsin. literally half the people i spoke to were saying, i am still undecided, or i love sanders, i loaded like to see a unity ticket. contrast the sanders rally, thousands of people, i literally walked around the line screening -- screaming out is anyone here undecided? people laughed at me. you literally could not find someone who was thinking maybe i will support hillary clinton. john: the question for most people in line, are you asking if i am excited? alex: someone was like, are you

serious, almost insulted. mark: so what happens when the circus moves to new york? does that make a difference? alex: he is already pulling huge -- pulling huge crowds in new york. every week is another chance for the sanders campaign. the longer they have momentum, the more people think the marriage can work out and the harder it is for clinton. in the end i am not sure you will have sanders people go to trump, but the heartbreak will be more pronounced if clinton is in fact the nominee. john: we have seen frustration at the situation. what will she do? how will she react if you go to new york and sanders is drawing thousands and she is drawing hundreds? alex: we are seeing the frustration evident in the clinton campaign. she is snapping on the rope line. they want to put this away. she wants to pivot and focus on

trump and on the general. the case she will make that resonates with center supporters is, consider the alternative, look at the clinton presidency for the country, there is a difference between clinton and trump so get on board. john: how will she perform? alex: you went to a clinton event in wisconsin, she is still fighting for it. she is a better campaigner this go around than in 2008, and she went into the eyes wide open knowing it would require stamina and tenacity. so far i don't think she has disappointed. john: if we ask you to come back later, will you? alex: i am following you guys wherever you go. what is for dinner? john: you can have it for free. mark: we will talk politics with tavis smiley after this. ♪

♪ mark: we have pbs talker and thinker tavis smiley. he has got a new book out called "50 for yout future: lessons from down the road." tavis smiley: good to see you both. mark: if you were telling french tourists about the democratic race for president and they said tell us the story about what is , happening now. how would you explain it to them? tavis smiley: that is unusual, that a party standardbearer would find herself caught in a race that is far from over. the numbers certainly are in her favor, but this race is, i think it is still bernie's -- i will not say it is bernie's to lose, that is putting too much on it. but i think if you can pull up the upset in new york we have a , real fight on our hands.

every other week you know this , more than anybody, but every week we are going back and forth knowing if we will have one contested conventions or two contested conventions. john: part of the reason hillary clinton has such a large delegate lead, maybe an insurmountable one, is because she did well in states in the south with large african-american populations, right? she has over performed much better than he has with african-americans. do you think that is merited? is that earned on her part? tavis smiley: some of it is. the clintons have had a big relationship with african-americans, and there is good and bad in that. i mean, i say all the time these , are public servants, not perfect servants. roda beautiful piece why hillary clinton does not deserve the black vote. the clintons let black america down on prison reform, bill clinton went to the naacp to apologize about something he did on crime bills. clinton appointed more black

judges than anybody, any president prior to him, all presidents combined prior to him so it is good news, bad news , story. some of it is merited no doubt about it, but on the other hand, i don't like it, i don't like it when black voters are taken for granted by one party or ignored by the other party. i think she learned the last time around when you expect a coronation, and find yourselves in an election in the dog fight this time around. mark: if she says the nomination, she says president obama will be more aggressive speaking on her behalf. how big a factor to think he can be in the general election, where his approval rating is, and the has become this? tavis smiley: i don't know what his impact will be outside of the african-american community, to the brilliant point that you messed made, -- just made because the numbers are what , they are. the numbers are getting better. with the african-american vote, i have found that it is not an automatic conclusion that one

can draw that just because a black person says, vote for this person, that all black folk will want to do that. it is a huge difference obviously, but you already know this. there is a huge difference between barack obama being on the ballot and barack obama campaigning for somebody on the ballot. i think the clintons, they are smart people running for her campaign. they have to know there is automatically going to be a drop in the african-american turnout just because this brother is not on the ballot. how much that drop is going to be, i do not know. how much harder then they have to work to make sure turnout is significant enough to push them over the top is a question i don't have the answer to. john: so bernie sanders is more into and with the democratic base on a wide variety of issues than hillary clinton is. that is part of the reason why he has been able to generate enthusiasm and giving her a challenge. if you have been asked in the beginning of the sanders campaign, listen, we know we are right side of the issues, what

but we have a problem with a hispanic and black voters what , would you do? how would you advise him, how would you assess how well he has done to ready what has going to be a challenge for him? tavis smiley: the new york times as you both sought wrote a good piece about some of the missteps in the sanders campaign. the article hit the nail on the head. he tried it too late that would , be my advice. if you are not known by the african-american community, and you are trying to take on the presumptive nominee, you have got to get out there and campaign like they vote in chicago, early and often. this is pretty clear. had he gotten out earlier, he might have had a better success with black voters who are going to be key in this election. on the issues, he is speaking right toward black voters, speaking truth and power that mattered to him, but it is hard to make up for lost time when people just do not know who you are. the bets have already been made, and quite frankly the breadth

, and depth of the black political establishment is a ready behind hillary clinton. john: who would be a better candidate in your view, ted cruz or donald trump? tavis smiley: i do not want the -- if i am the clinton campaign, i do not want to face donald trump. john: why? tavis smiley: they left the train station before the train left the station, and it is such a wildcard. it is such a wildcard. ted cruz is more predictable. john: coming up, clinton versus sanders, surrogates make their case. ♪

♪ john: joining us now, someone who's eminently qualified to talk about the latest back-and-forth between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. hillary clinton's national political director joins us. thank you for joining us. amanda renteria: thank you for having me. mark: a lot of democrats are saying the back-and-forth

between your candidate and senator sanders is not great for the party. is this a bad thing they are having this back-and-forth? amanda renteria: people will look at who is going to get things done, who is talking about the issues, and you know we hope at the end of the day, , the conversation is one we can continue to unify the party when the time is right. john: mark used the phrase crocodile tears. is this bernie sanders and his team going after you this hard, do you take genuine offense, or offense asked, or is it the kind of thing where you think to yourself, he looks like a hypocrite, we will make hay with this? amanda renteria: when you look at a comment like unqualified when you are talking about the secretary, you have got to wonder what is going on on the other side, what is going on in the campaign where they reached that level. so we look and understand it, but we also recognize that the end of the day, we have got to be talking about the issues people care about. we have got to make sure that we have got to win this election against what is happening on the

other side in the republican party. we make sure we are bringing people together, staying on message, and this is a campaign. it is tough. we know that too. mark: if have got to focus on the issues, and we are delighted to have you on. why doesn't your campaign just ignore him saying she is not qualified? it has nothing to do with issues? amanda renteria: the kind of has -- it kind of has to do with the kind of work the secretary has done her entire career. i have been there in the middle of the night and she is asking tough questions about policies, proposals, and all that time she has spent not just in her career developing those proposals, but now as well, we have started the campaign. a lot of people talked about she is spending time on policy, too much time on this issue or that issue and not talking directly to the people. she has spent a lot of that time because she believes in governing. she believes in having policy solutions, and so something like not qualified is a real big deal to her, because it is what she

is about. it is bringing solutions, and it is having the kind of proposals, experience. what she brings to the table. john: amanda, part of what started all of this was bernie sanders' interview with new york they news op-ed or editorial board where he entered a variety of questions, some on foreign policy, some on issues. in ways that a lot of people found wanting. on morning joe, hillary clinton was asked if he was qualified. she said the interview he gave raised a lot of questions. what questions were raised by the interview that senator sanders gave? amanda renteria: when you are talking about what your going to do for the country, and you have no policy or on how to do it, half that is a big question. throughout the campaign, we have talked about, it is not just saying free college tuition. how are you going to do it? it is not just breaking up the banks. how are you going to do it? and certainly the secretary, whenever she is asked about her

policy or her proposals people , do dive in and go deep, and she has answers, and that is really something that is different from senator sanders. she has given a lot of thought to the proposal she has put out and it gives experience and what she can bring to the white house and divisions she has for our country. so there is a difference, we have put out, she has put out a lot of time in her proposals and how she will get things done. i think both candidates, senator -- need to be asked that question, and the fact that senator sanders cannot answer them, and is important for people to know. mark: what bernie sanders make a good vice president? amanda renteria: we've got to make sure that we are winning the primary, here in new york, we are excited and ready to go taking one contest at a time. ,earning every vote at a time. mark: would you expect there is any reason to think this will not go until june? in other words bernie sanders , will be struggling with a lot of money?

amanda renteria: it feels like it is going to go a while. we are planning for that. we want to make sure we win by big numbers in new york, we are try to make your we get to all the different boroughs. at the end of the day, we need a plan, we have said this from the beginning. we have always got a plan. last time i was with you, it was exactly what i said. we need to make sure we are in it to the end, try for every single delegate out there. at the end of the day we feel , confident we'll have the pledged delegates, we will have the popular vote, and the excitement around the country. john: yes or no, senator sanders qualified to be president or not? amanda renteria: senator sanders has brought a lot of issues to the table, and at the end of the day, we would not say senator sanders is not qualified. that has never been with this campaign -- what this campaign has said, what the secretary has said. i don't think any of us would say that. john: great to have you.

joining us now from washington on the other side, another qualified individual, senior advisor to bernie sanders, tad devine. tad, senator sanders seemed to be keying off of a newsline that said secretary clinton said he was not qualified to be president? we are questioning whether he was qualified to be president. she did not actually say that in that interview. is your sense that she is questioning his qualification? tad devine: and certainly is, just hearing amanda's answer. hillary clinton yesterday had three opportunities to answer a question, does she believe simple question, does she believe bernie sanders is qualified to be president with joe scarborough. matt lauer, and we have the interview from him tomorrow, he was asking her a straightforward question. amanda just gave the house answer which is, they refused to answer a very simple question, is he qualified? let me tell you why they are refusing to answer that question. they decided after wisconsin that they were going to run a negative strategy.

jeff salome reported on it. they were going to disqualify bernie sanders, they were going to defeat him, and then they will worry about putting the party back together. the disqualify strategy, the way they are going to carry it out through surrogates attacking bernie on a broad range of issues from guns to foreign policy to the secretary refusing to answer a simple question about his qualifications. with the surrogates, i saw bernie frank on tv saying three , or four times yesterday, he was saying bernie in the newsday editorial, he was wandering, he was meandering, he did not seem to understand was going on. -- what was was going on. we understand what is going on with their campaign. they are trying to question his capacity to be president of the united states. they are trying to say that he does not, he's not qualified to be president of the united states by refusing to answer that question. let me tell you something, we are not going to go into new york unless they run that campaign against us. they think he is from vermont, a small state, he cannot handle the rough-and-tumble politics of the new york primary.

we will find out in a few weeks. mark: which is worse for the democratic party? one candidate is saying the other candidate is not qualified, the other is saying it is up to the voters. which is worse? tad devine: i will tell you, mark, the decision of the clinton campaign to launch a negative campaign in new york against us is the worst decision. that is what is worst. mark: i'm sorry you are not , responding to what i asked you. you are taking great umbrage to say whether he is qualified, your candidate is saying she is not. that would seem to be more dismissive. or negative. tad devine: sure, listen, bernie is reacting to an attack, which they launched against him and qualifications to be president -- and his qualifications to be president of the united states. these guys want to do have an have anthey wanted to

opportunity to go against him and be hard but subtle. i would to law school on time ago, and hillary clinton learned the same thing i did in law school, which is how to answer a question without saying the word, ok? she is very good at it. they don't say the word qualified. we know exactly what they are doing. we would love to have a debate on the big issues, a rigged economy, held in place by corrupt finance. that is the fundamental issue in this campaign. if she wants to debate that we , look forward to that debate. john: your colleague jeff weaver said hillary clinton made deals with the devil. what are those deals and who is the devil? tad devine: and comical way, jeff expressed the fact that hillary clinton has decided to rely on a corrupt system of campaign finance to fund her campaign. the super pac's that are raising tens of millions of dollars on her behalf, and by the way, spent millions of dollars in the super tuesday states to bump up delegate totals are a part of that system. i think that is the reference jeff is making. they are relying on bundlers.

there were laying on -- relying on big money. they have a dark money super pac. we have no idea where the money -- every citizen counts super pac. published reports have said they raised over $25 million. we have no idea where that money came from. so i think that is what jeff was , referring to, the corrupt system of campaign finance owing those special interests when you get elected to office. and he is right in that regard. mark: up next, a familia new york voice kicks off the presidential subway series. ♪

♪ john: the next stop is the subway. if you want to convince new york voters you are just like them you need to ride the train. ,more so for bernie sanders and hillary clinton, the have gotten taught in the turnstile. we got them on a big apple scandal, somewhere in between

tipping a fork and not tipping a cabbie. but there was only one man to call on to put this on perspective, the voice of the new york subway system, our man in colleague bloomberg , radio host charlie pellett. charlie: the new york city subway, a hyper fast labyrinth of metropolitan might 24 hour , claustrophobic democracy, everyone in there together every , passenger equal. trust me i have guided millions , of subterranean souls over the years. stand clear of closing doors, please. ladies and gentlemen thank you , for writing with mta new york city transit. in a way, it is like running the government. you need to be quick and you got to be decisive, but you need to know where you are going. it is that simple. some of us who have circled the city in these tectonic tubes are decades, we may forget now and

then exactly how it works. >> how do you ride the subway today? >> what do you mean? >> you get a coin and you get on? >> wrong. charlie: that is why every passenger needs the golden ticket to ride this borrowed bullet train, a metro card , even if sometimes we need a little bit of practice. .ope, too slow almost, let me show you. just so you know, it is this easy, coffee in your left hand, metro card in your right hand, one quick, simple, easy swipe. there are no tokens, but here is how it goes. i am in. the next stop is april 19, the new york primary. the city may not extend a red carpet to every candidate. well that is rough. , as a token of goodwill, let me give the presidential candidates passing through this metropolis one final piece of advice. just remember, courtesy is

contagious. stand clear of the negative attacks, please. ♪

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