announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." we begin this evening with politics and an open letter to state democrats, governor jerry brown of california endorsed hillary clinton for president ahead of this state primary. donald trump held a news conference to address his pledge donations to veterans groups. tremendousaised a amount of money, almost $6 billion and more money will come in i believe over the next little while. i have raised him of $6 million. all of the money has been paid

will give it to you in a second. i brought a list in case that question was asked. the money has been paid out. i have been thanked by so many veterans groups throughout the united states. one gentleman called me up acently crying that out of blue he got a check for $100,000. i have been asked -- thanked by semi groups, great veterans groups. people are picketing out there are sent by hillary clinton and they are picketing that the money was not sent. i do not think it is anyone's business of i want to send money to the vets but i have to say this, i raised close to $6 million. it will be over that amount. when it is all said and done. as of this moment it is $5.6 million. his comments were a response to a twitter .nnouncement

associated press in center for public affairs research found that republicans end of a credit voters feel a significant disconnect with their political parties. joining me here in new york is gerald seib,ank luntz and and jonathan martin, the national political correspondent at "the new york times." let me begin with this question. press performance at this conference, what did he achieve? achieved an attack on the press. he managed to take the oxygen out of the room one more time. the pressarkable that conference and the controversy that he was addressing my have been a problem for some other politician.

the one thing that happens every time he gets out of the box like this is he takes the attention away from everybody else on the whole day was spent discussing theparsing donald trump and veterans' question. maybe at some point it will not work but right now it works for him. charlie: are all the questions answered? >> not really. that was not the point. the point was to be -- take offense at the fact that the questions had been raised at all. that was the posture that was taken. i think some of the journalists who were there and others beyond the room were somewhat agog, because is and that the point of journalism is to ask questions and demand answers. jonathan: he wants to make it instead of his contributions or lack thereof to veterans groups. whatever the story of the day is his posture is to create a fresh dust off to cover the previous

one and he is very talented at that. i will point out that this press conference to lace three days after donald trump at a rally in san diego complaining about the federal judge who was presiding over the lawsuit that has been filed against trump university. trump in folkmr. his ethnicity saying i believe he is a mexican. this judge is an american, a federal judge but it is remarkable that the nominee for president of the republican party can mention in a casual manner the ethnicity of a federal judge in that kind of a way and at a press conference three days later he makes it all about veterans groups or about the press themselves, we all move on from that comment. it does capture the degree to which trump is able to create some new story and put the rest the previous one. charlie: is the press at fault? >> the press has to be

aggressive and be accountable. we cannot be so consumed by his attacks on the press itself to from helping him accountable. charlie: why were they not send early? jonathan: the washington post has done a great job on this story and you will see more accountability on that fact. unfortunately at these press conferences we get so caught up in other issues that he's able to steer the conversation. >> the roots of these are simple. started calling up veterans organizations and saying have you seen the money had and a lot of them said we have not. it is not a grand conspiracy theory. why was the money not

sent? >> that is one of the questions that has not been answered. let's just say it has taken a while. as jonathan suggests that became the point not anymore as of today. is holding press conferences. is hillary clinton? how often does the media get to her and this is one of the smart things that trump has done which we have not seen in a candidate which is he gives the press access to him. he does more interviews in a week than hillary clinton does in a month. he opens himself up, i agree with you because you're trying to hold him accountable but the fact is at least he gives access and once again this is the trump show. the average voter gets to see this exchange and what is happening is they are deciding that the fact that he lets the press at him, that is what builds his ability. if you watch what is happening even though he has a 35% favorability rating, more and more people are considering voting for him because he seems authentic. he seems genuine. have an he seems to

attitude. >> it is a progressive attitude but -- aggressive attitude but the public is looking for that. we did a survey in the swing states and we have identified none of the above, it is an 11% component and they will determine the election. they are not responding to issues. they're responding to attributes and the one attribute they want more than anything else is a candidate that is honest and trustworthy. they believe that trump is not. they believe clinton is not but the fact that trump allows people to get at him and goes back and forth with them, that creates an essence of authenticity that hillary clinton does not have. charlie: i assume it is also a sense of transparency. >> which is what voters are looking for. i have never said publicly that i thought trump had the chance to win. i know believe and it will frighten many of your viewers, he genuinely does because her campaign is as an authentic as anything i have seen and trump,

he is out to get people who do not like him but those people are going to give him a chance that they would not give hillary clinton and the clinton people have to wake up right now. charlie: both to jerry and jonathan, do you think what frank just said is increasingly becoming part of the conventional wisdom that trump can win this thing? or not? >> yeah. we have looked at states were that could be a reality. states where he has the chance to turn what had been a blue into a red state in a way that another more conventional republican did not. is it possible? people are realizing it is possible. arelie: you and a colleague looking at four states. jonathan: there is no question that our reporting and the data we see reflects a competitive

race and mr. trump is going to be more formidable than folks at thought a few months ago. , the map works against any republican nominee whether it is trump or anyone else. democrats have an advantage on the map. since 1992, democrats have one for --242 electoral votes. he claims he can throughout the dauntingut that is a place to start for any republican nominee. even mind hillary clinton has not secured the nomination yet of her own party. once that happens the polling will presumably look different just as it did in 2008 after the obama and clinton race when democrats came home. republicans have: a strong -- around trump. the democrats have not around hillary. charlie: and will the is the question. hesitant more were

about supporting obama who had primary.r in the seems possible and there is no question there is bad blood right now in this democratic primary. uneasyders folks are about hillary clinton and her campaign and the broader establishment but you will see a four to five months sustained warningic campaign those bernie people the alternative is trump and that is their most compelling weapon. charlie: and supreme court appointments and all of that. t-rex we have not seen a change election going back to 1980. and 1980 so 2008 twice in the last 45 years. , donald trumpople is their second choice. charlie: is that if you or a significant number?

>> let's say it is 10% of the vote. ralph nader got 1% of the vote and that flipped florida for bush over gore. all it takes is the candidate, these numbers are so small, these differences between trump and clinton and we have had this in this country that no one wins by 20 points as they did 20 or 30 years ago. i do think it is significant. these sanders people want to shake up washington and wall street and hillary clinton is not in a position to get that type of voter. charlie: let me raise one question. this notion that bill kristol said over the weekend that there could be a third-party candidate . do you guys see that as likely, do you know who he is talking about and does he know what he is talking about? >> it is likely something will happen. .e have a third party candidate gary johnson on the libertarian ticket. it does not take much to tip the

balance. it is hard to start from scratch right now and launch a meaningful independent presidential campaign. that is a tough thing. the green party is on balance and the libertarian party is on balance. this might be a place where none of these voters migrate. it is such a stranger that this is possible. >> it is possible they could find someone to run third party. it is too late to be on the litigationt pending that will be filed and we are getting close to the line in north carolina so whoever would run would have to gather signatures pretty quickly to get on some of these ballots that if you are a republican who is looking for someone who is not named trump or clinton you have an option. ill well werend governors in the 1990's, republican governors. even if you do not think they will be president that is some irry you can go if you are republican to cast a protest vote of some kind. as frank pointed out, if the johnson-well ticket got 7% that

is a significant number given how close this election could well be. mike bloomberg could have been that candidate and he made a miscalculation. in the polling that we did he would have taken equal or more votes away from trump. would have kept anyone from getting to 70. upper he started in the 20's. he had the money and the message and he had the background and the experience. he could have done it. been in he could have the debate if he had 20%. frankel and he chose not to do it. i do not think it is significant. is bill kristol talking about mitt romney or not, does anyone know who he is talking about? frank: it is not going to be romney. i have done some reporting with his people and they indicate he is still very reluctant.

his mind could be swayed but there is not a lot of time left here. they are up against the wall here on a lot of the state ballots. charlie: who is it? other than gary johnson. and bill well. like billsomeone sask, the senator from nebraska. smart and tough in quick on his feet and the ability to express frustration with the current system but that is not mitt romney. charlie: [indiscernible] ande is a popular successful governor. they said we should be for hillary clinton because he has the best chance of beating like thatmp but i sanders guide. in the california contest that may be enough. we tend tos can --

overrate them but this guy probably does make a difference. at ad the timing is right moment where they spent a lot of time and they seem to be creeping up in the polls. it does help hillary a bit. you cannot say jerry brown is not part of the clinton establishment. he has had his differences with the clinton family over the years. >> what does it say that bernie sanders cannot win the nomination, no shot and yet he is pulling closer to hillary clinton with the election over? charlie: that is a very good question. unhappinesst -- with her? >> it is more than happiness. it is genuine discontent. donald trump is unable to close the deal. to buy the pay-per-view rights. you and i together should get global pay-per-view because they

will be billions of people tuning in to see a trump-clinton fight. but am all for the hype let's see what the numbers look like after the democrats come home for click -- hillary first. >> it is a bit of a free throw for some of these democratic voters. they can vote for bernie, they know it is not going to matter because hillary will get them a nation but nothing lost. charlie: everyone is trying to explain 2016, including you, gerry. a basicds to conclusion. the financial recession scared and scared the electorate more deeply and more permanently than has been recognized before. the economic statistics say there has been a recovery and a nice one at that but mentally,

many americans have never really recovered and perhaps never will. the experience has altered their attitude about the political and economic systems and their let them willing to consider alternatives. gerald: there is that line that iss the economic recovery underway. there have been 74 straight months of job creation. the line that says we think the country's off on the wrong track has been going down. the line in the polling that says do think the economy will down.tter, it keeps going there is this gap between what the economy is supposed to look like and what people actually feel. that is explained in part by the fact they think that what happened in 2000 -- 2007 through 2009 showed a system that did not work for them and they have not forgotten that. the numbers do not change that

view. of americans think their behind it.re when did you ever know americans to be that pessimistic? two thirds believe the problems we face will get worse over the next 10 years rather than getting better. charlie: trump was right to frame it in terms of making america great again? incredibly, yes. he is the vessel by which they communicate and that is why they will ignore all these weaknesses. they for gave what he , even ont john mccain veterans day. frank: nothing seems to kill him at this point. terrible, hes are has the worst unfavorable numbers of any major party nominee in american history. it is not like he has not been hurt. he has been hurt.

he has not been hurt with a slice of the republican electorate. frank: why is hillary clinton not destroying him? >> her primary is going on and democrats have not come home yet. it is pretty straightforward. frank: that is why the none of the above. charlie: you assume that democrats will come home because they will look at the alternative and they will say even though i am not thrilled by her i am less thrilled by the possibility of donald trump winning. >> the alternative, it is the old joe biden saying. do not compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative. that will be the hillary message for the next five months. folks, you do not love me. perhaps i am part of the establishment but the alternative is donald trump and that will be their message. data versuspolling 2008 when you had more people who were backing hillary clinton who said i would never vote for obama. now you have the bernie folks

who will say the same about hillary clinton. todoes seem like we have wait until the summer to feel what is going to happen in this race based upon what the democrats do after their primary. charlie: it seems like you are saying hillary clinton will be ok. they may not like her but when push comes to shove democrats will come home. jonathan: she still has a narrow advantage based on the electoral college which favors democrats nkly, the fact that donald trump numbers are terrible. hers are not much better but they are better while her primary is going on. it is not wise to make the sweeping analyses about the race until after her primary is over. am unwilling to make the analysis. we should not be comparing this to any other election because it is not like any other election. the voters have a different we haveand every time

made an assumption on both sides, democrats and republicans, so many media people, so many pundits have got it wrong that at some point you -- you let the voters speak for themselves. charlie: often when you look at presidential elections, some will say it depends on who is -- wins the debate and some say it depends on who is the most optimistic candidate. some will say it depends on who it is a referendum on. help me understand what this election will be about. jonathan: i am just about out of the projection business. i was asking for an understanding, not a projection. jonathan: i will give you that. a strange dynamics suggests itself. the question of how many people want to vote against hillary

clinton how many --'s stacked up against comity people want to vote against donald trump is not the way this race will be decided. you have negatives like we have never seen before as we have been discussing. the big question, how much of the democratic party consolidation will happen and we will have a fair reading of that in a few weeks and that will give us a baseline. be a recordgoing to number of people voting against the other guy this year and that is the giant joker in the deck, i think. charlie: thank you. it is a pleasure to have you. we will be right back. stay with us. ♪

is here.samantha bee this year, she became the host "full frontalies, with samantha bee." the cocreator and executive producer of the sat sitcom that employs her husband, jason jones. samantha: i am so excited to be here. i love the idea. samantha: we definitely wanted

the show to feel audacious. we wanted it to have that spirit. and one of my best friends who i four longtimeh came up with the title. she floated it to meet via text -- it -- as soon she did i knew title.the it is about being open and being audacious, being -- having a point of view that is obvious. being naked in a way, not figuratively. charlie: late night has changed in a way. you have gone from carson to letterman to let out -- leno and others are doing and you are doing and oliver is doing. it feels different. perhaps it is just of our time.

there is a diversity of style within a certain kind of format. people have their own, people have their own unique take on that. that is for sure. only 1 --ou are the woman who has a late-night show. show that is more on demand. charlie: why is that? samantha: i do not know. i wish i could answer that question. i wish that people turned to me with that question. what should you be the authority on? samantha: all i can speak to is what i am doing. charlie: this is about your attitude or your agenda. does it come out differently

since you are who you are? samantha: i absolutely think so. i have the most wonderful show mindr, we have this meld that happens. i think the show is unique because we have our -- charlie: you see the same things as sources is comity. samantha: we do. we have a great my healthy symbiotic relationship. upon things differently. it is not a huge effort for us distill the news in a different way. we are a different -- different people, we are a different gender. we readread the people it through a different lens. through a lifelong lands. charlie: does everyone on the stewart think someday i will have my own show? samantha: i do not think i

thought that. so many have. and do and are great at it. i do not think that everybody thinks that. jon, ithe end, i love could feel theu weight of all those years. it is not like you would think it is pure glory. nurturing, was very the first guy in and last guy out, was very much dedicated to the nuts and bolts of the show. samantha: completely dedicated to it. there was -- every moment of the show after his editorial voice. he was very much in the nuts and bolts of the show for a good reason. i get that. he was nurturing. i think -- he always encouraged me to dictate into my own point of view and that was important. dig deep into your uniqueness and find ways to push the humor that are unexpected. charlie: where do comics and comedians and comic actors come

from? samantha: there is no chance in hell that anyone would ever think you are a natural born comedian, you will stand on the stage and stand in front of thinkns of people and i and was a quiet subversively humorous person. that is a natural. i am also an only child. we spend much time entertaining ourselves. charlie: so the imagination grows. one else there is no to entertain. used her out your attic window and you read your heavy books and listen to your ticket -- disco records. charlie: it is one day week. how hard can that be? what time do we taped the show, 6:00 on monday. is five nightst

a week. samantha: we only have to do a show once a week. charlie: is it different because you are doing it one day away? samantha: -- one day a week? samantha: it is a full-time experience. charlie: it is harder because you have one time each week to make it happen. where we can be a little bit not as good as we were yesterday and perhaps tomorrow, better. samantha: you have a little bit of immediacy about following the new cycle closely. we have to sit back from the daily news and focus more on -- it is more of an analysis of the week that has passed and what we think is coming in the future. it is freeing. we thought it will be a hindrance when we were first putting the show together and we found out we have nothing to do with the scheduling of the show must so when we learned we were

scheduled for mondays, we thought this is a tragedy, how are we going to -- how can you do a show at the beginning of -- atek question nothing the beginning of the week? it gives you the freedom to sit back and watch the patterns, watch the stories that are emerging in a more long-term way so it has what we thought was a huge handicap is an asset. k progresses, you can see the turn of events. you do not -- we do not have to do hot takes, we can sit back and reject stories that are not fruitful, stories that have emerged and disappear quickly. you can see those and those are helpful. givesthe show once a week me the freedom to field pieces. i do like to shoot out in the world. comedy, is it sketch no, it is field pieces.

it is going outside and reporting back on a humorous story. samantha: yes, i love doing that. i am doing it differently. when i was doing it for jon, it was an incredible training down -- ground but i do not need to strictly adhere to the format. there is a pretty routine format to those stories that we all came to know really well. we do not have to do that anymore. i do not have to pretend i am a reporter anymore so that character is now, i am past that character, i do not have to do that so that is freeing. i am myself. we can play with the form in ways that we did not have the freedom to do before because we did not have time to exploit those things in the past and now we have time to let stories percolate. i do not have to pretend to have a point of view that i do not have anymore. charlie: are you playing to camera with a point of view or are you best or feel more

comfortable playing off of someone? part of the greatness of different kinds of people is they can react to someone. i can imagine you and jason reacting to each other in a funny way. those.a: i love both of or speaking tora the audience. i love doing fieldwork mostly for selfish reasons. i do feel like when i sit down with person i spend a little havewaiting in a story, i meant something and i really love that. i love to be out in the world learning something myself and if it translates into a great story or story we want to tell on the show that is perfect. charlie: that is the reason i like "60 minutes." it gives me a chance to report. see people in their own

environment. this is you comparing the presidential candidates to characters in "back to the future." here it is. samantha: ted was still throwing punches like a born-again tyler durden. screenwriter says he aced the character on an arrogant buffoon. samantha: their pulse of billionaire -- repulsive billionaire, the greasy loser, the woman whose life was almost ruined by her terrible taste in has and eight care to who zero impact and the elderly lunatic who hangs out with screws things up for anyone else. bernie, jump back in the car and go back to the 1950's

when we did not have to appeal to black voters. that was really fun to do. charlie: it is a great year to be in comedy. it keeps on giving. fromtha: either a gift jesus or a gift from satan. we keep trying to figure out who it is from. charlie: the characters are interesting and they are drawn out in an interesting way. these are not down people. -- but down people. maybe. for,tha: we could not ask when we were pitching the showed and we have all the documents about how you want the show to look like we could never anticipate it and it has [indiscernible] the story of bernie

sanders is every bit as fascinating as the story of donald trump. he is creeping up on them. there is a prize -- a surprise every day. ♪

samantha: we will take next monday. charlie: what is happening in

the bowels of "full frontal"? samantha: we are filming. low ramp up. wednesday is the day normally in .ur work week i can't say we have the pattern down completely. we have -- that is great. thank you. tomorrow is the day we fewer down, there is a threads in the air and a few story ideas. wednesday is the day we start to dig into those stories a little more deeply. ieldready know what the f will be for monday. which is timed perfectly. we met with gary johnson. it will be libertarian day in the field. i hope we're not giving anything away. it is perfect.

the timing could not be better and that is a fluke. charlie: and then there is the other limitary and -- libertarian. samantha: i am looking forward to it. charlie: you were the executive producer of "the detour." ing twoa: we brn different things to the table. he is a very big picture person and really great at the overall an episode. to i am very surgical. i like to come in and poke holes in the story line. the person who comes in and slashes and burns. kind of ae is

great birdseye person and i am more surgical. the two halves of the whole work well together. detour" was a fun thing. i recall myset, as earlier years in theater school, as i reflect because i did not go to theater school at one point, i was always really good at making a performance that was bunch ofe of a different things. that was a strength i had and that continues. hat making shows i would want to watch is definitely something. "theie: do people watch daily show" and say, i know her. insightes the way is into who she is and her mindset. samantha: you can know me more

from "full frontal." the passion and the attitude is totally authentic to who i am. some people interpret it as either -- or slash and burn which is not a reflection of who i am as a person. i am a really low-key person but i do achieve total catharsis. rightminutes to get it and to get it on air. just meaning and point of view. it is stating our point of view. so firmly and forcefully. we wanted to make a show that andvigorous and visceral satisfying. we wanted to make a show that we wanted to watch and i feel we

have done that. charlie: it seems to me that is a mistake people make. trying -- they are not trying to satisfy themselves. samantha: when you work in television there are a lot of masters. there are a lot of people wrestling for control of your end product. lots of voices. and they do -- we have the advantage, our network has just given us the power and control. they understood that this is not the type of show they ever made before. and so and so they trusted us to bring in a product that was strong and had that point of view. charlie: did you pitch it to them or did they come to you and say there is a show? were developing the

show and so when jon left they were picking up the detour and jon announced he was leaving. charlie: surprised? samantha: we knew that it was coming. so surprised, slash, not surprised. not like he was going to do it forever. who would want to do it forever? we were not surprised and surprised at the same time. it was not like an ambush. he gave us honey warning. -- plenty of warning. we knew it would happen, we just did not know when. was stillth h it shocking. we would have left no matter what. detour" got picked up we were still leaving. thisbs came to us with

idea to do a show with me and they floated it in a very casual way. charlie: 30 minutes once a week. samantha: they were having -- open to having us do whatever we wanted it to be. they loved the voice, they liked ae performers, we had such good working relationship, it felt like a natural fit. my name was coming up in the news. it felt like the right thing for them to float the idea seized the opportunity, i clutched the opportunity and held it so tightly to my heart just like a diamond. charlie: and then set out to create a show. samantha: and then created a show. charlie: they did not come to you and say we want you to do this show. a completelywas blank slate. so we could imprint ourselves on that. conversation. i think it was hard for us to define our show. it is hard to, you cannot just

say, it will be a show and everyone think i am serious and i will stand there and i will, my body is going to do -- we always knew what the show would feel like but i cannot say that we knew exactly what it would look like. i do know we wanted to do a once a week show for sure. samantha: can you imagine extending it to five days a week? that would ruin it. that would ruin my life. i am big into quality of life. this is perfectly enough work. ality of life of give it -- of life is good. it would prevent me from doing fieldwork. and it is important to me. it has been the biggest part of the show. charlie: the toughest thing

doing the morning show for cbs, i love doing it and great people with me and behind the scenes, it attaches you, live for two hours. samantha: i think we would rather, our show is literally 21 minutes, we have 21 minutes to fill and we never have enough time. we do not have enough time. we write the show really fast and then we pare it down, we are stripping away pieces. it is a painful process but it is an excellent process to whittle away good jokes and kill your babies as it were as you are going. that is more satisfying than having to fill time with something we do not know. i would much rather, i think we are lucky in -- to be in the position we can craft things smaller, something smaller that is precious. ofrlie: i do not think

canadians necessarily as funny people. so many great comedians come out of canada. maybe for some reason those things come together. samantha: there are great comedians in canada that do not have a lot of opportunities to shine or to come here. there are untold riches. samantha: did you always want to come here or you were going where the work was? since i decided not to become an attorney which i think we are all grateful for, the legal community, no question. charlie: you made the right decision. samantha: i do hate paperwork. charlie: and meetings. i -- beyond that i only wanted to be a working actor. and i wanted to make a living doing something i loved. as it happened usually

transitioned away from being an actor entirely and do my own i now see has been, is the ultimate gift. doing your own, creating your own thing, you cannot go back from that. charlie: but you still are an actor. samantha: i like to do my own thing now. charlie: you can write your own movie. in it.a: i'm not i do play jason's mother. which is entirely awful, not a great idea. it does not interest me in the same way it used to. i have found something i like doing better. and i am becoming a rock pianist. piano.ot play the p& charlie: how do you see the show changing and evolving? weantha: i like doing what

are doing. we will eventually work our way through the presidential election and next year, we will have a president and place and we know who we will have for four years and that will change. it'd the first whatever -- neither the first whatever. it will evolve naturally. we do not have an agenda for ourselves. we enjoy doing what we are doing. we are so new at it, we would like to enjoy it for a little while. charlie: every article i read about you and i read lots of articles when i decided to do they all asked this question, did she want and should she have been considered show"?e daily samantha: i am so happy doing this, i am so happy to -- in the don't have any regrets. it did not feel realistic to me, to be honest and then tbs was

there, really wanting me to do a show. and nobody -- who can resist someone who really wants you? delicious,awfully very compelling. charlie: people who do not appreciate that really need that lesson. when you want to make someone happy, explain to them how much you want them. how happy they make you. samantha: to have been courted by tbs in the way that they courted me, it really was unique , it really felt like a special thing. i dide: i did not care, not want it or need it, i did not care about it. samantha: if tbs had been there it would have been another conversation. so prefer to do my own thing, i so prefer it, it is so much better for me. i would not be able to do the show, i do not believe i would

be able to do the show i wanted to do because the operation is immense. it is a behemoth. i do not think it would have worked for me to blow apart that institution and do it exactly my way. like have a strong presence and they have a strong show runner and they create a world for you. they are not wishy-washy. i need to feel the presence of a strong creator in the show. those are the shows i like. charlie: how about the staff? samantha: they are so great. sometimes i look around at my staff, i am so lucky. we are a small operation. it is not a big-time -- it is kind of big-time. we are still small compared to other shows. 65 people on staff. something like that. a have a lot of researchers,

lot of producers and field people, people who build our craft. you cannot do it all by yourself, it is a team but i truly feel like i constantly talk about the team we have built because i am thankful for them. there is not one person who is superfluous in our staff. everyone is working. charlie: do you want to in the end maybe have a sharper edge than anyone out there? samantha: i would not say that is consciously -- charlie: is it a reality? samantha: i think that is happening, absolutely. it is not conscious. we do not come to work and say, how can we be more sharp? charlie: how can we find ourselves in the most precise way? that is what the goal is but it ,as -- what it has become

sharper and more of an edge than almost anybody out there. i think we have a real edge to us. it comes out really naturally. there is a flow to that. by comparison to any other show -- we have our heads down and our eyes forward, we are always looking in the purest, clearest way to what would amuse and thrill us to do on the show. we do not care what anyone else is doing. i do not really read anything. i have only read a couple. charlie: it is good. have read a couple of reviews. two or three may be. i try to stay out of it. read it york times" i because we get it delivered and the entertainment section was on the outside. charlie: you had the role that

you had on "the daily show," people were interested. we wanted to see more of you when you were on. i think it is the truth. and all of a sudden you're are getting a show. so people who wanted to find out more of you are finding more about you. that is what happens. samantha: it is great. i try to stay out of it. it is easy for me to stay out of it. i have three kids. when i leave work and go home i am off duty. full-scale parenting. sports fan. charlie: is jason? of atha: he is more football fan. we will watch the olympics. charlie: thank you for coming. great to have you. samantha: this was so much fun. i love it. i want to live here. we would be happy.

samantha: i will be fine. "fulle: samantha bee, you for joining us. see you next time. ♪

mark: i'm mark halperin. john: i'm john heilemann. with all due respect to bill kristol's political judgment, it looks like david french might have a little bit of work to do. >> who exactly is david french? >> who the heck is david french? john: hello again from los angeles. a lot happening out here in the golden state. today a presidential candidate