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mark.: welcome to this edition of the best of with all due respect. the golden state ahead of the primary. sleazy guy over here from abc. mark.: and, a potential independent candidate. bill kristol entered the mix, sort of. john: we can now confirm that he is a conservative lawyer and writer and iraqi war veteran named david french. you probably have not heard about him, we had not either. bill kristol tweeted this weekend that he had a person in mind that would eat a strong
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candidate. both of them declined to comment, but this is what we know. french is a writer for "the national review." he lives in tennessee with his wife and kids. he said -- declining to comment -- what french has not made a final decision that is indeed who bill kristol was talking about. byyou have this piece bill kristol making the case against trump and clinton and laying out names like mitt romney and others who may be conceivably independent candidates. it does not have to be someone who is famous. this is a guy who has given his service to the country, and estimable resume, and if more americans come to know this guy, they will realize that he would be a better president than
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donald trump. mark.: a lot of people will look at the revealing of this name and say -- who cares. no one has heard of him. a lot of the search is focused on people with the following traits -- famous, wealthy, and in public service. john: strike 1, 2, 3. mark.: he has never run for anything. he was very pleasant on the phone with us, but does not sound like the kind of guy who wants to go head-to-head with donald trump on a daily basis. like you said, his resume is outstanding. he has served the country in the military, a constitutional lawyer. he has a lot of attributes that if you were looking for someone coming to go up against these two new yorkers, he seemed to fit. can he raise money? is he the guy? donald trump today, before the name of david french was reported, was asked at the trump
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tower -- where he called him a loser -- if independent candidate runs of any sort, hillary clinton will win. if they do an independent -- which i don't think anyone with a reputation would do -- what you do is lose the election for the republicans and therefore lose the supreme court. therefore, you have a group of people put on the supreme court where this country will never ever recover. it will never be the same. mark: he said, assuming it is decent. we now know the answer to the question. the answer is david french. is he someone decent enough to be a player. could he be a player? year this is a black swan and a million ways. no one ever wants to say never. could he be like kevin kline and
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suddenly come forward and capture the imagination of a million americans? it is not impossible. we all underestimate the amount and charismamina, a national be figure. you can say what you want to say about donald trump and hillary clinton, they are high-level professionals at this game. it will be very hard for a guy who has no skill never running for anything before. never been on tv -- he has been on tv a little bit, but very hard. mark: he would have to do well enough to get into the debate to be a factor in the three. john: i'm not even talking about winning, but whether he can stand on the same mark: stage. mark:mark: this guy has not even been a minor level politician. people will start googling him
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now. if you're someone like mitt romney, you want someone who you are proud to vote for. this guy, you could he proud to vote for him, say this is a true conservative, a guy who served in the military with an outstanding resume, but is it someone that donald trump would for them to say, how do we react? no. john: we don't want to be dismissive. this is a citizen in the best possible standing. rs who do notmpe like the idea of sitting out the election want to cast a vote for someone, you could imagine, this guy, or someone like him. mark: although, if he cannot raise money, you might have to vote for him by writing his name into he will have the raise money. he has not, we are told, lined
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up a running mate. he has not even decided definitively to do it. he is open to running. john: because of ballot access issues and other issues of the kind -- running on the , two guys, onee of them almost a national figure. they will more likely have an effect. prejudgeon't want to it, but if he is undecided, the attention he is about to get me make him decide that it is maybe not worth it. john: his life is about to change a lot right about now. as megyn kelly would say, let's talk about us. at trump tower today, trump repeatedly insulted members of the estate, way more than usual even. he insulted reporters who disputed the way he raised money for veterans. his tone was caustic
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occasionally. the press should be ashamed of themselves. you know my opinion of the media. it is very low. i think it is made up of people who in many cases are not good people. the press is so does honest and so unfair. i have watched you on television. the press is being dishonest. i don't like that. i don't like this honesty, like this sleazy guy here from abc. he is a sleaze. >> i think you have set a new bar today. >> is this what is going to be like covering you as president? mr. trump: yet. -- yeah. i'm going to continue to attack the press. i find the press to be extremely dishonest. i find the political press to be
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unbelievably dishonest. here are two things that are true. mr. trump has benefited from the republican nomination fight to aake the press of foil -- foil. he is being more solicitous to them behind the scenes. in private, he loves the press constantly.hem op-badbeing a good c cop. mark: there are clearly a lot of people in the country who do not like the press. bernie sanders attacks the press almost as much as donald trump does, clearly in less personal terms. i do think now that the clinton folks are hoping, and the press
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should agree, he is held to a normal standard. some of the things he criticized today, i think he may be right. coverage of him is not always fair. we need to cover all of the candidates. tough, fair, relentless, skeptical. if he behaves like this, it will hurt his credibility with him and continue to help himself with others. john: i think the way that he treats the press for ability is outlandish. personal so much attacks -- john: it is ridiculous and outrageous, some of the things he does, especially given the fact that he likes the press in private. i think the more important fact is that many people in the business have come to the conclusion that they gave trump a free ride for much of the nomination fight. they did not challenge him
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enough. they came to the conclusion that they gave him too much airtime and broke coverage to go to his rallies. i think many members of the press, not just reporters, but people who run networks have said that we went too far, and need to bring this back into line. i think he will get less of a free ride. mark: i agree. potential more about die presidential candidate david french after this quick break. ♪
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john: it is often our pleasure mcraney of "than newer times." usually we have to via satellite. today, we don't have to. david french, what do we know? >> he is running for president. john: maybe, possibly. years coveringur politics, this is not a household name? >> not a household name. john: based on the expectations built up, this is surprising some people. to think that someone who has not run for office, that is not
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a big personality, to think that he could somehow be a player in this race? tothis is probably as close a perfect storm that you could ask for. no. someone needs to hear from him. you could argue that it is better to have no name recognition than bad name recognition. i cannot say that i know him. ofn: there was a lot attention last week and over the new libertarian. someone who has run for president before. why is that not the more likely vehicle to disrupt the two-party system then someone who no one
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?as heard of cho >> i agree. this seems to me to be sort of a sideshow. there is now a third-party candidate out there that will probably get some support. john: how long have you known donald trump? >> i covered him when he once ran for president before. 2006.nk it was 2016 -- i flew to california with him and flew back on his plane. mark: how do you think hillary clinton will react to the looming presence of david french in this race? think aot constitutional lawyer from tennessee will frighten donald trump? >> he should be worried about the libertarian candidate. whether or not he will be like that, knowing donald trump, i don't know.
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i don't think this is something that will bother him very much. john: tell us where we are in the democratic race in california? >> it is a difficult race because it is hard to tell how many independents will vote, but also it is hard to vote if you are an independent. we had some polls showing it will be close, and some polls showing it will not be close. the way to judge the campaign is to watch what the candidates do. that shows you what they think. campaigningrs is between now and next tuesday. think, is coming on, i wednesday. they are putting some money into the state, but you cannot judge that. it is an expensive state. my sense is that it will be close. that hillarymes clinton has one, and they're not particularly enthusiastic about
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it. it is hard to get those photos out. the bernie sanders voters will come out. mark: you wrote a piece over the weekend about the governor endorsing hillary clinton. does that matter? >> normally, i don't think endorsements matter much. i think it does matter. i think it will get some to go out. he is not endorsed often. he endorses when he thinks he has a good chance of winning. mark: he has a rich history of the -- with the clintons, including in 19 night to when they clash. he is part bernie sanders, part hillary clinton. why do you think he decided to get into the contest the way that he did? more than anything else, climate change. that tells me that is an issue that he really cares about. trump has been coming here and saying, the drought does not
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exist and climate change does not exist. talkingad jerry brown about this, that, more than anything else is what made him get in. i think it is that simple. i do not think there is any kind of trade-off or anything like that. john: talk about it from the clinton campaign point of view. they clearly have some issues in terms of putting the party back together. enthusiasm for the backers of bernie sanders. why does sanders not make sense? >> you get all these jokes about the two older people, and wanting someone fresh and unexpected in the contest. if i were inside brooklyn, i would certainly be considering him. i do not think it is a crazy
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idea, but it is not my first choice. he seems to represent a new generation. the poll in new jersey today show's within four points of hillary clinton. people on the one hand say it is an unpredictable year. other people say the blue states will be blue. there is no chance that california or new jersey will be in play at all. you look at the poll and see trump coming out aggressively. you think he could make hillary clinton work for new jersey or california? >> at the end of the day, he can't. mark: cannot? >> cannot. sanders will drop out of the race -- he will start sending supporters over to her. it is no longer a theoretical thing. it becomes a choice between hillary clinton and donald trump. sandra supporters have real problems with hillary clinton on
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immigration, climate change, but you will see democrats coalesced behind hillary clinton the way we have seen republicans coalesced behind trump. john: she will have to work harder for california? day think at the end of the she will win here. i cannot imagine her having trouble here in a general election. i think in new jersey, from a historical perspective, even with the chris christie endorsement that he had, he would be strong there. john: who do you think has more at stake, in terms of picking a running mate politically chu choco >> i think -- politically? >> i think hillary clinton. she needs to get the party behind her and let the party know that she will be there for them.
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it is hard to figure out who the perfect choice would be. with trump, he is such an unusual candidate that has advantages, but a general governor of some state -- a presidential nominee, i would put you on my ticket. mark: coming up, president obama's former speech writer weighs in on the present shall race. we will be right back. ♪
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speechwriter for president "ama, and the cohost of the keeping it 1600" podcast, jon favreau. that isave a story up like front page news today, talking a president obama's role in the november election. tell us what you think that will .e soon, what hillary clinton not had behind her is the united party. not having obama and everyone else making the case for her. once the california primary is over, she will have the party behind her.
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3%obama is at a 52%-50 approval rating. ratinge incumbent has a like that, it usually has a good impact on the party. although he is extremely good as a campaigner, a great lovedate, he does not campaigning. in fact, he loves governing more. would you agree with that? >> i think so, with the exception that he likes making a case. john: you think he will be a real asset and enjoy doing this? itchingnk he has been to do it. i think this ask as a cap on his eight years in office. addressgive a farewell at some point. at that point, there may already be the president and a transition. beforeext months
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november will be his chance to make the case for hillary, his presidency, and the vision that he spoke about since 2004. mark: now is the time for twitter hate. what is donald trump's slogan tackle >> make america great. mark: what if hillary clinton's logan? -- slogan? to think it is good? >> i think it is good. hope and change -- all of this stuff is way overrated. what is more important is the case that they make. mark: there is a debate about whether she should be spending as much time going after donald trump or spending more time building herself up. obviously you can do both. against trumpt
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like she did today, no positive message will get through. >> i think it is a tiny issue. to the convention, we did the same thing i think she will probably do that between now and the convention. the convention will be the time she makes a positive case for herself. john: this is the democratic strategist view of race and everything else is falling action. do you think the clinton campaign is geared up with their target research from their point of view to put donald trump away before the convention? jon: i do not think they will put him away, but they will unload a lot of ammo. john: by the time you got to the convention against mitt romney, the was not a single person and the obama campaign who thought he would lose. do you think the clinton campaign could be in that position? jon: it depends on when the
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primary is over. we are in that we areird period were the primary ends. john: i know you think big speeches matter a lot and president obama gave a couple of important ones in his rise that define him as a politician. most of the cuts i know think the convention speech will matter a lot because she has serious problems that she has the remedy in the way that people see her. it will be the speech of her life in some ways. , youe called you and said wrote speeches for president obama. how should i approach the speech? what would you tell her? jon: she needs to think first and foremost about what is her vision for the country and how do you talk about that and away that is an implicit contrast with donald trump. you cannot make a positive case and see, here's my laundry list
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of 10 policy and that guy sucks. the case has the b.y.u. are the one to leave the country and why he isn't. has to be why you are the one to leave the country and why he is in. n't. she needs to talk about the compliments of the last eight years and how to build on those accomplishments. her give ayou heard speech that suggests she has oratorical greatness within her? jon: the speech and the 2008 convention to nominate obama. i think she steps up on the national stage. mark: she has had some pieces in this campaign that have not had a ton of attention, but she has done some on race that have been quite good. observer, what are they doing well now? jon: what is the trump campaign doing well? they had a rough couple of
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weeks. if donald trump was disciplined i representonly on change and she doesn't, i think they would be doing ok. mark: there's nothing they are doing on a tactical and strategic level that is any good? jon: his lack of discipline is overpowering any kind of message that they had. when they're about things in the news, the trump university stuff came out and he was able to get out of the news by going crazy on a bunch of us reporters. if you call that a win, i wouldn't. mark: who is the smartest person she could take as a running mate? jon: that's a good question. elizabeth warren. i think tom perez. those are all great candidates. john: what is the case for elizabeth moore? warren? jon: she can take on donald
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trump and make a positive case for a fair economy and a sharp way. someone who can do that added value. john: immediate solves the sanders problem for. her, . jon: that salt part of the problem. john: good to see you. mark: when we return, the role that silicon valley plays in presidential politics. that is next. ♪
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decades, it has grown to quite a political force. this year, something seems a little bit off. around sanp francisco has not went up to any presidential candidate so far. to understand why this has happened, we might need a little quick history lesson of silicon valley's role in presidential cycles of the past. >> silicon valley, front and center again. 1939 -- hewlett and packard start hewlett-packard in a garage. more things happen -- the internet. the valley explodes, helps bill clinton. >> he passed nafta, the token occasions that. >> 2000, the valley is split/ . they like gore. >> they also like bush. >> the leaders from your field. >> 2008, the valley helped obama. >> a top lobby from google visited with the obama
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administration 128 times since the president took office. >> the valley comes to the swamp. >> a new office in washington, d.c. >> uber is hiring david plus. 2016, not about the finals but about the race. >> clinton has had a hard time because she does not know them as well. >> how many arts from supporters? >> not many. >> peter thiel is now backing donald trump. >> others give up entirely. >> elon musk says he wants to send humans to mars by 2025. mark: a huge moment because for the first time since silicon valley mattered in national politics they do not have a candidate. they do not like much about trump or clinton and neither has a figure to feel for the issues that matter to business leaders an in the valley. there the politics o
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are some libertarian elements, some left of center, some right of center. donald trump's approach to global economics is never going to fly with a lot of the business community, particularly with export oriented leaders. they love immigration and love free trade. mark: he is also pick fights with three of the biggest leaders in the valley. john: and then you have hillary clinton. we talked about the absence of her economic message. they loved bill clinton and the information superhighway in the way he talked about the economy. they liked barack obama, but there's not a lot of love for hillary clinton because she seems like she is on the wrong side of uber. they are wondering what to did. o., mark: she does not have an authentic connection to relationship with their products. she is not someone who loves the things they do. she has been able to raise a ton
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of money without having the fingertip feel. is a big why on why silicon valley has been courted. now they both need them. they both need the image of silicon valley. even though they are not as politically potent as they were, they are still one of america's leading industries. in california, technology, there is still just a huge avatar the future. john: one of the craziest things about it is that neither one of them are running a forward-looking campaign that right now. the most attractive thing about marco rubio's campaign was talking about the economy of the future. mark: the public policy has to catch up with technology. john: 100%. both of these candidates, i do not know if they see the value of it. mark: quite a change. john: there is more of the best of "with all due respect" ahead.
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mark: donald trump says he wants to make america great again. some very famous people from very famous bands want to make america rage again. tonight, we want to introduce you to a brand-new super group that calls them profits of rage. john: the groups six members are from rage against the machine, public enemy, and cypress hill. , they have sold more than 20 million albums worldwide. they are among the most outspoken and provocative acts
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in the history of hip-hop and metal. they've been watching the election cycle in may and decided they had to do something to disrupt it. out in l.a., the group unveiled itself on the radio station k arroq. to have i were lucky exclusive access in the first day of the life of the supergroup, in which they reveal to us the cornerstone of their grand plan for electoral mischiefmaking, staging a protest concert in cleveland during the republican convention. ♪ 6.7 kroq. you have to be down at the whiskey today at 10:00 a.m. to get a wristband. >> this is the best way i could've started my day. john: john.
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this thing, the supergroup is your idea basically. >> i made the first call to check, but the time demands a band like prophets of rage. >> the songs are timeless. it's about beyond us as individuals. there's an atmosphere we want to confront. mark: why now? >> our nation and the world is on the brink of absolute electoral insanity at home and environmental insanity around the globe. >> there is no music that speaks to what is going on right now. mark: what is the state of the union? >> martin luther king said there is no hotter place in hell than people who remain neutral in times of moral conflict. this is a time of moral conflict. we are escaping the hot pit of hell by bringing some rock 'n roll, hip-hop fury. ♪
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clear the way cleared th the way of rageprophets ♪ [applause] last time that rage against the machine played in los trump,, we out group sanders, and hillary clinton by a margin of 3-1. [laughter] john: you guys have three big catalogs appear. up here. you basically do a bunch of that stuff, but you have done original music for this group. >> we have a strong that is of the time called "the party is over." that weessage conveys are done with the lies that are
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told to us. the party is over. we are standing up and we are making our voices known. ♪ the party is over y is overe ♪ >> the two-party system has been over a long time ago. we have to come up with something that looks forward to the 21st century that makes sense to the new generations that are coming into the voting place. mark: dca meaningful difference between the democrat and open party? -- do you see a meaningful difference between the democratic and republican party? >> not really. i mean, i never have. ♪ the party is over ♪ --n: trump, clinton, sanders why is this unprecedented? he said this is an unprecedented moment in history. >> one of the things that has
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irked me greatly is the way that media has talked about the trump campaign and sanders campaign as both of them raging against the machine. we're going to set the record straight once and for all what it really means to reggie gets the machine. both of those campaigns have tapped into something real that people right, left, and center to leave the system as it currently stands does not serve their needs, but what they are being offered through the elect harel process is a reques racist demagogue and a great sort of dreamer on the other hand and in the middle is the lesser of three evils. john: that would be hillary clinton in the middle? >> 30's of the alternate voice that stands unapologetically with the people. mark: what are you doing in july? >> there's this thing called the republican national convention in july and that would be a perfect place for a band like prophets a rage to cause a ruckus. john: you have a venue in cleveland?
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>> we have a venue and there will be venues that will be spontaneous. this is the kind of thing that you do not broadcast to the local authorities prior to arrival. [laughter] there.ou are going to be we are going to see you in cleveland? >> we are going to be there. mark: and philadelphia? >> anything's possible. mark: if you have raged most effectively, what will happen? >> jimmy c will have gotten the nomination. [laughter] mark: give us your acceptance speech. eep]ready to have your [b whooped. ♪ >> my view is that progressive,
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radical, or revolutionary change comes from below and not from above. even if you stake all of your hopes for yourself or your ha family on hope, sometimes that does not work out. if you stick them on this fear -based racism, that will not work out either. the underlying problem is systemic. the songs that we have been writing for decades attacks the system and not individual candidates. it starts in the kitchen tables, classrooms, wherever people gather to talk about making world better. >> the songs travel the world. how would you like your country to be looked at from the outside looking in? the songs in this group is going to be worldwide. waiting for the rest of the planet looking inward. what better thing than music? ♪
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