tv With All Due Respect Bloomberg June 5, 2016 3:00pm-4:01pm EDT
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john: i'm john heilemann. mark: and i am mark halperin. "with all due respect," to those who thought they could come back late from the long weekend and miss donald trump's press conference, buckle up for a crazy summer. mr. trump: are you ready? cleveland, you're a real beauty. carl icahn. gene washington. motorcycles. no. no. no. jeff sessions. crazy bernie. parking lots. gary johnson. lebron. trump university. that adds up to $6 million --that adds up to $5,600,000. mitt romney. donald trump. here's the story. "the wall street journal." bob dole is a fan of mine. don't tell me about bob dole. the political press. waldorf astoria. bill kristol is a loser. ♪ mark: welcome to this edition to
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this edition of "with all due respect." this week, bernie sanders, hillary clinton, and bill clinton were out in the golden state ahead of a big primary. donald trump cheered veterans and jeered members of the media. mr. trump: sleazy guy right over here from abc. mark: and some news that we broke earlier in the week, a potential independent candidate recruited by premium never trumper bill kristol entered the mix, sort of. mark: we can now report that the man being eyed is a conservative lawyer, writer, and iraqi war veteran named david french. you're probably not heard of him. we hadn't either. the big guessing game that's been going on since kristol tweeted this weekend that he has a candidate in mind who he said would be a strong candidate. john and i both talked to them this afternoon, both declined to comment. here's what we know. french is a staff writer for the
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"national review." he lives in tennessee with his wife and three kids. we reached him tonight, he was traveling. he says he declined to comment, but the republican sources we found say that while french has not made a final decision, that is indeed who kristol was talking about. he wrote about french and the current issue of the "weekly standard," hiding him in plain sight. john: you have this piece by kristol, making the case against trump and clinton, and bandying and about names like mitt romney who might be conceivably independent candidates. and then he says look at david french, doesn't have to be someone famous. here's a guy who is been a great servant to his country, has an estimable resume, and kristol's argument is as more americans come to know this guy, they will come to realize that he would be a better president than donald trump or hillary clinton. that is a huge if in the middle of that argument. mark: a lot of people will look at the revealing of this name
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and say, you got to be kidding. who cares? no one has heard of him. a lot of the search is focused on people -- they're looking for people with one or more of the following traits -- someone who is famous, wealthy, and who had been in public service. john: strike one, strike two, strike three. mark: the guy has never run for anything. he was very pleasant on the phone, but i have to say, he didn't seem like the kind of guy who wants to go head-to-head with donald trump on a daily basis. as you said, his resume is outstanding. just based on reading about him today, he is a guy who has served the country in the military, has been a lawyer -- a constitutional lawyer. he has a lot of attributes that, if you are looking to say what sort of -- someone coming from the center of the country to go up against these two new yorkers, he seems to fit. can he raise money? is he the guy? donald trump, today, before the name of david french was reported, was asked that his press conference, where he called bill kristol a loser --
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said if an independent candidate runs, that hillary clinton will win. mr. trump: if they do an indy, assuming it's decent, which i don't than anyone with a reputation would do it, because they would look like fools. what you are going to do is, you lose the election for the republicans. and therefore, you lose the supreme court. therefore, you will have a group of people put on the supreme court where this country will never, ever recover. it will never, ever be the same. mark: he said, assuming it's decent. now we know what the answer to the question of who bill kristol is tweeting about. we know the answer is david french. is he the answer? is he decent enough to actually be a player? let's say he does the absolute best he can. could he be a player? john: this is a black swan year in a million ways. one never wants to say never about anyone. could he be like kevin kline in "dave," and come forward and capture the imagination of millions of americans?
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it's not impossible. we all underestimate the degree of skill and stamina and charisma that are required to be a serious national political figure in america. you can say whatever you want to say about donald trump or hillary clinton -- they both are high-level professionals at this game. it would be very hard for a guy with no skill ever running for anything before. no skill in front of cameras, no skill ever running a press conference or rallies. mark: he would have to be one in 10 million, not to win, but to do well enough to get into the debate and be a factor. john: i'm just talking about could this guy stand on the same stage? there are a very talented baseball players in single-a and double-a, but it's a different thing at the major league. mark: he's not even been in the minor league. evil will start googling him, and if you are someone like mitt
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romney -- people will start googling him. if you were someone like mitt romney, you want people who are proud to vote for him. you could say this is a true conservative, a guy who served in the military with outstanding resume. but is he someone who donald trump could meet with and say how do we react to david french? , no. not yet. john: we don't want to be dismissive of this person is a -- as a citizen, in the best possible standing. but we were talking about this is someone for never trumpers, who don't like the idea of sitting out the election, and want to cast a vote for someone, you can imagine this guy or someone like him. mark: if you can't raise money, you may have to vote for him by writing him in. the chances of him getting on the ballot, even in states where the deadline is down the road, he has not lined up a running mate or financial support.
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he has not even definitively decided to do it. that is who kristol was talking about. john: gary johnson and bill wells are more likely to be a factor in this election, running on the libertarian line. two guys who have run states, one of them is almost a national figure. those guys are much more likely to have an effect. mark: i don't want to prejudge, but if the guy was undecided, and the sense from our sources was he had not made a full commitment to run, the attention he is about to get meme can decide maybe it's maybe not worth doing. john: his life is about to change a lot right around now. as megyn kelly would say, let's talk about us. at trump tower today, donald trump repeatedly insulted the assembled members of the fourth estate way more than usual. , he objected to reporters who asked serious questions about how he raised and dispersed money for veterans. his tone was personal, and occasionally caustic as he waged war on what he calls the political press.
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mr. trump: the press should be ashamed of themselves. you know my opinion of the media, it's very low. i think the media is frankly, made up of people that, in many cases -- not in all cases, are not good people. the press is so dishonest and so unfair. i have watched on television, you are a real beauty. the press is being very dishonest, i don't like that. i like dishonesty, like the sleazy guy right over here from abc. he is a sleaze. >> i think you set a new bar for being contentious with the press corps, calling us losers to our faces. mr. trump: not all of you, just many of you. enough of you. >> is this what going to be like covering you as president? mr. trump: i'm going to continue to attack the press. i find the press to be extremely dishonest. i find the political press to be unbelievably dishonest.
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john: two things that are true. the trump has benefited first, throughout the republican nomination by making the press a foil. in standard republican fashion. he has mocked and belittled reporters, while at the same time being more solicitous to them by the scene then almost any candidate that we ever covered. in private, he loves the press" and courts them constantly. he is like a one-man good cop bad cop routine, being both cops at the same time. do you think that will work in a general election? mark: he is now in a different phase. people are being more aggressive with him. they are not treating them as a curiosity. there's clearly a lot of people on the left and the right that don't like the press. bernie sanders attacks the press almost as much as donald trump does, in less personal terms. it's one of the things that clearly got him this far. but i do think that the clinton folks are hoping, and the press should agree with the clinton people on this, that he is held to a normal standard.
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not tougher, not less tough, but normal. some of the things he criticized, he may be right. the coverage of him is not always fair. we all need to cover all of the candidates, tough, fair, relentless, skeptical, and trump -- if he behaves like this, will hurt his credibility with some and continue to help himself with others. john: i think the way in which he treats the press verbally is outlandish. especially the liberal outlets like the "new york times." i think it's ridiculous and outrageous, some of the things he does. especially given the fact that he likes the press in private. i think the more important fact is that many people in our business have come to the conclusion that they gave donald trump a free ride for much of the republican nomination fight, they didn't challenge him enough. you could argue whether they are right eerie but they have come
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to that conclusion, that they gave him too much air time, that they broke away from news coverage too often to cover his rallies. gave him free coverage. many members of the press at the highest levels, not just reporters but people who run networks -- they said we went to far, we need to bring this thing back in line. i do think he will get tougher coverage now and get less of a free ride then he got in the nomination fight. it has almost nothing to do with what he says and press coverage is about individual reporters. mark: i agree. we will talk more about david french and the upcoming governor -- california primary with adam nagourney after this quick break. ♪ john: it is often our pleasure
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to talk to adam nagourney, the los angeles bureau chief of the new york times. normally we have to do it via satellite, because he is here and we are in new york. but we are in the same time zone, and we could not be happier to be in the presence of the great adam nagourney. welcome to the show. david french. what do you know? adam: david french. i can't tell you i know a lot about him. i guess he is maybe running for president. john: in all of your years of covering national politics, all the things you know, this is not like a household name. adam: i remember republicans talking about the french, but i don't think they were referring to david. mark: based on the expectations that bill kristol built up, do you think somebody who never ran for office, not famous, not a great personality, isn't that
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person a perfect storm natural, could he somehow be a player in this race? adam: he is as close to a perfect storm as you could ask for. nobody seems to like either candidate. but no. he has enough problems as it is getting on all these ballots. you can argue it's better to have no name recognition than negative name recognition. but i heard when bill kristol was coming up with a name, i thought it would be someone that we all knew about. but i can't say that i know him. mark: there was a lot of attention over gary johnson. the libertarians. they are on all 50 states in the pallet. gary johnson is someone who ran for president before. governor of the state, running with another former governor of the state. why is that not the vehicle to disrupt if you want to disrupt a two-party system? why is that not the more likely vehicle? adam: i agree. they are already there, they are
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both people who have repetitions, credibility. this is a sideshow, there is now a third-party candidate that will probably get some support. john: how long have you known donald trump? adam: i covered him when he ran for president before, in 2006. i flew out to california with him, and flew back on his plane. mark: how you think you will react to the looming potential presence of david french in this race? adam: [laughter] mark: you pick a constitutional lawyer from tennessee will not frighten donald trump? adam: he should be worried about the libertarian candidate. that's going to take votes away from him. that will put states into play i believe that were not in place before. whether or not he's going to realize that, i don't know. i don't think this will bother him very much.
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mark: tell me where we are in the california democratic primary? adam: it's difficult to poll, because you can't tell how independents will vote, but also it's hard to vote if you are independent. independents support bernie sanders two to one. some polls show it is really close, and others show it's not really close. the best way to judge these kind of campaigns is to watch what the candidates do. bernie sanders will be campaigning full-time between now and tuesday. he had a really heavy campaign day-to-day with three or four rallies. clinton is coming and wednesday, spending most of her time here. they are putting some money into the state, but you can't judge that because it's an expensive state. my sense is it's a close race. the biggest thing is that -- here's hillary clinton, everyone sort of assumes she has won, and they are not particularly enthusiastic. bernie sanders voters are going to come out. that's her challenge here.
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mark: you were a long-time student of the governor of the state, and today he endorsed hillary clinton. in the game of endorsements, does that one matter? adam: i normally think endorsements don't matter much, but i think it does matter. it will bring in undecided voters, and people go to the effort to get out. he doesn't endorse very often, i think it's fair to say he endorses when he can have a good chance of winning. mark: he has a rich history with the clintons, including 1992, when they clashed. it would seem he is part bernie sanders, part hillary clinton. he waited until a week out. why did he decide to get into this? , he is reallyit's down on donald trump on more than anything else climate , change. it's an issue he really cares about, and trump is coming here and saying the trump does not
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-- the drought does not exist. i think if you had jerry brown talking about this, that more than anything else would convince him to get in. he thinks hillary clinton has already won the nomination. it's that simple. i don't think there's any trade-off. john: sanders was asked if he would be willing to be on the ticket with hillary clinton. talk about it from the clinton campaign point of view. they clearly have some issues, for putting the party back together, in terms of drawing the enthusiasm and vote from those who have been enthusiastic backers of bernie sanders. why doesn't sanders make sense to put on the ticket if you are hillary clinton? adam: the only reason it doesn't make sense is you get all these jokes about the 150-year-old ticket, you want some thing fresh and unexpected in this kind of contest. if i was inside crooklyn right now, i would -- brooklyn right now, i would certainly be considering it.
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he doesn't seem to represent the new generation. mark: polling in new jersey shows trump within four points of hillary clinton. on the one hand, they say it's an unpredictable year and trump has changed so much, don't assume anything. the old rules are out. . other people say, the blue states will be blue. no chance california or new jersey will be in play. do you think that trump could for newler clinton work jersey and california? --: i think it the at the end of the day, he can't. at some sanders is going to drop point out of the race, he says he's going to send his supporters over to her, and is no longer a theoretical thing. it's a choice between hillary clinton and donald trump. even though a lot of sanders supporters have real problems with hillary clinton on issues like immigration and climate change, i think you're going to start seeing democrats coalesce behind hillary clinton way you
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see republicans coalesce -- john: she will have to work harder for california than barack obama did. adam: i do not think so. at the end for day she will win. minorities here, latinos who are not minorities. i think -- women, i can't believe for having trouble here in the general election. new jersey, my historical perspective, i would be surprised. even with the chris christie endorsement, she should be strong. john: i mentioned her consideration, who do you think has more at stake in terms of picking a running mate, politically? adam: probably hillary clinton. she needs to get the party united behind her. not only in terms of personality, but in terms of issues. she needs to reassure the progressives that she is going to be there for them. john: i think she is the perfect choice to carry over the
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suitable for governing threshold. adam: it's easier for me to figure out what kind of person would be the clinton perfect choice. with trump, he's such an unusual candidate, who was a lot of advantages, but deficiencies. a governor, a general,? john: if i were presidential nominee, i would have you on my ticket. mark: coming up, president obama's former speechwriter jon favreau weighs in on the presidential race. we will be right back. ♪ ♪
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simmons project known as "the ringer," cohost of the "keeping it 1600," podcast, jon favreau. not the director of "iron man." you did not direct iron man. you do have a story on the new simmons podcast, that's headlining the front page today. talks about president obama's role in the november election, tell us what you think that's going to be. i know you think it's going to be a good thing. jon: i don't is going to be a -- don't think it is going to be a bad thing. john: give us the contours of what your argument is. jon: he's out there today in elkhart, and that sort of the start of it. pretty soon, the one thing that hillary hasn't had behind her is a united party. she doesn't have obama and everyone else making the case for her. once california is over and the primary is over she will have , the whole party behind her, and obama will be an asset, because he is right now at a 52%, 53% approval rating. when the incumbent president is at an approval rating like that, that usually helps the candidate
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of the same party. i also think the case against trump that obama will make is a case that he has made even before trump's candidacy existed. john: although he is extraordinarily good as a campaigner, he did not love the campaign. he liked governing better than campaigning. jon: i think so. with the exception that he really likes making the case. he likes being out on the stump and telling a story and making the case. john: you think he would be a real asset to her, and enjoy doing this. he has the bit between his teeth to go do this. jon: i think he has been itching to do this, is also acts as a cap on his eight years in office. he's going to give a farewell address at some point, and at that point, there will already be a president and a transition. the next six or seven months between now and november will be his chance to make the case for hillary and his own presidency.
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and the vision that he spoke about since he has been on the stage in 2004. john: now is the time on "with all due respect," where i court twitter hate. what is donald trump's campaign slogan? jon: make america great again. john: and hillary? jon: stronger together. >> that is relatively new. what do you think about it? jon: people put way too much in slogans. if the clintons came out with make america great again, months ago, people would have mocked it. no one thinks donald trump is where he is because of his slogan. change we can believe in all of , that stuff is way overrated. what's much more important is the case you make. mark: there's a debate going on now about whether she should be spending as much time as she started to going after donald trump, whether she should be spending more time building herself up. it is a false choice obviously, because you can do both. but should the balance be more talking about herself? -- must know that.like today,
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jon: i think between now and the convention -- we did the same thing in 2012 with romney. obama spent those months making the negative case against romney. we talked about bain. we talked about all of the negative stuff. i think she will probably do that between now and the convention. and the convention will be the time when she becomes positive on herself. she has to do both. mark: this is the democratic strategist view of races, which is they are basically decided before the convention and everything else is falling action. do you think the clinton campaign is geared up with their research, target rich environment, from their point of view to put donald trump away , before the convention? jon: i don't think they can put them away, but i think they will unload quite a bit between now and then. the timefinish up, by you got to the convention, mitt romney, there wasn't a single person in the obama campaign that thought you would lose. every day, you said we are going to win. do you think the clinton
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campaign could be in that position? jon: it all depends on what happens after the primaries over. we are in that weird space where the primary ends and she gets 70% or 80% of sanders supporters. john: i know that you do not think that slogans matter much, but i know you think speeches matter and that president obama gave a couple really important ones in his rise that defined him. most democrats that i know think the convention speech for hillary clinton will matter a lot. she has various problems that she has to try to remedy in terms of how people see her. she has a chance to introduce yourself, even though she's incredibly well known, it will be the speech of her life in some ways. if you call the when said -- if she called you and said, help me think through how to approach this speech, what would you tell her? jon: i think first and foremost, she needs to think about what is your vision for the country, and how you talk about that in a way that is an implicit contrast with donald trump? you can't just make a positive case and say here is my laundry
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list of policy and, by the way, that guy sucks. the actual case you are making is both why you were the one to lead the country, and why he isn't. you have to do both of those things at the same time. i think you are going to need to have some bio in there, like you said, and reproduce yourself to the country. she needs to talk with about the compliments of the last eight years, -- the compliments -- accomplishments of the last eight years. john: have you heard her do a speech where you think she has oratorical greatness in her? jon: i think she gave a speech in the 2008 convention to nominate obama was great. i think she stepped up. mark: she has had some set pieces. she has done some on race, criminal justice that have been quite good. jon: when she gets into a policy topic, she does quite well. mark: looking at this like an observer, from 3000 miles away, the trump campaign, what are
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they doing well? jon: they had a rough couple of weeks. i think if donald trump is disciplined and only focuses on "i represent change, and she doesn't," i think it would be doing ok. mark: there's nothing they are doing on a tactical or a strategic level you think is good? jon: his lack of discipline is overpowering any other kind of message they have. i mean, when there are bad things in the news -- yesterday, the trump university stuff started to come out. he was able to get out of the news by going crazy on a bunch of reporters at a press conference. so if you call that a win, i guess that is a win. john: who is the smartest person she could pick is a running mate? jon: good question. john: 10 seconds. jon: elizabeth moran would be -- elizabeth moran -- warren would be great. for: what is the case elizabeth warren? jon: she can take down donald trump, and makes a case for a
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fair economy in a sharp way. i think someone who can do that is going to be an added value. john: maybe solves the sanders problem. jon: that is part of what she is looking for. at least i would. mark: jon favreau. really good to see you. jon: you, too. ♪ mark: when we return, we look at the role silicon valley plays and presidential politics. that is next. ♪
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in the last couple of decades has grown into quite a political force. this year though, something seems a little bit off. the tech hub around san francisco hasn't reacted to any presidential candidates so far. to understand why this has happened, we might need a quick history lesson of silicon valley's role in presidential cycles in the recent past. >> silicon valley, front and center. again. here's what happened. 1939, hewlett-packard started in a garage. more stuff happens, things get invented, the internet. 1990's, the valley explodes, helps bill clinton, clinton helps the valley. >> he passed nafta. the 1996 telecommunications act. >> 2000, the valley is split. they like they like gore. >> al gore invented the internet. >> they also like bush. >> i will have the best scientific and technological advice from leaders in your field. >> 2008, silicon valley helps obama, obama helps silicon valley. >> new reports show a top lobbyist from google visited with the obama administration 128 times since the president took office.
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>> the valley comes to the swamp. >> palo alto-based facebook is opening a new office in washington, d.c. >> twitter is hiring david left. >> 2016, pumped about the finals, not about the race. >> clinton has had a hard time selling to that crowd. because she has not known them as well. x among your friends in silicon -- >> among your friends in silicon valley how many do , know who are trump supporters? >> none of them overtly. >> except for this guy. >> peter thiel is now backing donald trump. >> others give up on earth entirely. >> spacex ceo elon musk said he wanted to send humans to mars by 2025. mark: it's a huge moment, because for the first time since silicon valley mattered in national politics, they don't have a candidate. they don't like much about trump or clinton, and neither of them has a fingertip feel for the issues that matter to business leaders in the valley. john: well, that is certainly true. silicon valley, the politics
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there, there are some libertarian elements. there are some left of center, some right of center. there's not a lot of far left and not a lot of conventional far right. you know, donald trump's approach to global economics is never going to fly with a lot of the business community, particularly with export oriented tech companies and tech leaders, because they love immigration, they love free trade. mark: he also picks fights with three of the biggest leaders in the valley. john: yes, exactly right, and then you have hillary clinton, and we talk about the absence of her economic message. they loved bill clinton and the information superhighway and the way he talked about the economy. and, of course, they like barack obama. but there is not a lot of love out there for hillary clinton. she attacked the sharing economy. she seems like she is on the wrong side of uber. they are wondering what to do. mark: she didn't -- does not have an authentic -- despite the focus on the e-mail, she does not have an authentic connection to relationship with their products. she is not someone who loves the things they do. that's a huge opening. now, look.
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raise abeen able to huge amount of money without the fingertip feel, that's a big part of why silicon valley is supported. donald trump has not raised money. now they need them. they are still one of america's leading industries, they still are california, technology, it's a huge avatar of the future. john call it right. mark: there is nothing like it in america. john: one of the craziest things about clinton and trump, neither one of them is running a forward-looking campaign right now. the most attractive thing about marco rubio's entire campaign for the presidency was trying to talk about being an economy of the future, of the high-tech future. mark: yet the catch up with technology. john: both of these candidates, i don't know that they see the value in being able to capture it. mark: quite a change. john: there is more the best of "with all due respect," ahead. next up, the brand-new super group that wants to make america
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♪ john: donald trump says he make america again, but the very famous people from some very famous bands want to make america rage again. they even have a hat. tonight we want to introduce you , to a new supergroup that calls itself prophets of rage. the group's six members involve some from rage against the machine, some from public enemy, and cypress hill. between them, they have sold more than 20 million albums worldwide. they are also among the most outspoken and provocative political acts in the world of hip-hop and heavy metal.
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their crew have been watching this election cycle in dismay, and decided they have to do something to disrupt it. on monday morning out in l.a., the group unveiled itself on the radio, and then that night, they made their debut at the whiskey a go-go. we were given exclusive access, during which they reveal to us the cornerstone of their grand plan for electoral mischief making, staging a concert in cus concerts, -- rau in cleveland during the republican convention. >> this is the kevin dineen show at 7:00. you have to be down at the whiskey today at 10:00 a.m. to get a wristband. >> overwhelmed, this is the best way i could've started my day, best 20 bucks i ever spent. mark: mark halperin. how are you? hey, man. tom, this supergroup is your
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idea, basically. right? >> i made the first call to chuck, but at times demand a band like prophets of rage. >> we want to try to present with profits -- prophets of rage, songs are timeless, beyond this as an individual. there is an atmosphere that we want to confront. mark: why now? >> our nation and our world is on the brink of electoral insanity, environmental insanity around the globe. there's no music that speaks to what's going on right now. nothing with substance. mark: what is the state of the union? >> martin luther king said there is no hotter place in hell than for people who remain neutral in times of moral conflict. this is a time of moral conflict. we are escaping the hot pit of hell by bringing some rock 'n roll fury. >> ♪
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prophets of rage prophets of rage ♪ mark: the last time that rage against machine played in los angeles, you outdrew trump, sanders, and clinton by a margin of three to one. the general electorate is ready. for our message. john: you guys have three big catalogs to draw from, you have the rage catalog, and the cypress catalog. you do some original music. right? >> we have a song that is of the time and for the time called the party is over. >> i was a co-lyricist of that song talk. >> i think the message of the song conveys that we are done
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with the lies that are told to us. the party is over. we are standing up and making our voices known. >> ♪ the party's over ♪ the party is over the party is over ♪ >> the two-party system should have been over a long time ago. so we have to come up with something that looks forward into the 21st century that makes sense to the new generations that have come into the voting marketplace. mark: you see a difference between the democratic and republican party? >> not really. i never have. >> ♪ donald trump, the party's over ♪ mark: trump, clinton, sanders, this is so impressive. you have said this is an unprecedented moment in history.
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>> it is one of the unprecedented moments in history, and one of the things that irked me is how the trump and clinton campaign or raging against the machine. we're going to set the record straight once and for all on what it really means to rage against the machine. tapping to something very, very real. people right, left, and center believe that the system as it currently stands does not serve their needs. but what they are being offered up to the tiny funnel of the electoral process is a racist demagogue on one hand, and a great dreamer on the other hand. in the middle is the lesser of three evils. none of those choices are good enough. mark: that would be hillary clinton. >> there needs to be one in the middle, uncompromising, a voice that stands unapologetically with the people. mark: what are you doing in july? >> the republican national convention is in july, and that will be a perfect place for the aophets of rage to cause
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rucus. mark: you have a venue in cleveland. >> we have a venue, and we may have spontaneous venues. it's hard to say. you don't broadcast this to the local authorities prior to arrival. mark: you guys are going to be there. >> we will see you in cleveland. >> we will be rocking seriously in and around the rnc. john: any chance in philadelphia? >> anything is possible. right now, we are figuring it out. mark: at the end of the four days, if you have raged your most effectively, what will of happened? >> timmy c will have gone the nomination. mark: let's hear a little bit of your acceptance speech. >> ♪ ♪ >> my view is that progressive,
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radical, or revolutionary change always comes from below, not from above. so even if you stake all of your hopes for yourself and your family on hope, well, sometimes that doesn't work out. if you stake them on this is the phobic fear-based racism, that's not going to work out either. the underlying problems are systemic. the songs we have for decades attack the system, not the individual candidates, and how people change the world. it starts around kitchen tables, in the classroom, where people gather to talk about making the world better. >> and here is the thing. songs travel the world. how would you like your country to be looked at from the outside looking in? these songs in this group is going to be worldwide. the rest of the planet is looking inward. something's got to be said, something's got to be done. what better thing than music? >> ♪
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carol: welcome to "bloomberg businessweek." i'm carol massar. david: and i am david gura. we are inside the magazine's headquarters in new york. this addition, the real-life consequences of takata's recall. david: canada's fire from hell. all of that up ahead on "bloomberg businessweek." ♪ david: here is ellen, our editor-in-chief at "bloomberg businessweek." let's start with the opening remarks section. a lot of people who do not like donald trump have analogized him to fascists of old.
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