♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." do i make them in the attack at the place in orlando, florida. 50 people died including the gunman. 53 more were wounded. it was the deadliest mass shooting and american history. allowed 2:00 a.m. on sunday, the assailant opened fire inside of a crowded gate nightclub. the gunman was a 29-year-old afghan citizen. he called 911 and claimed allegiance to isis as the assault unfolded.

shortly thereafter isis used social media to cream -- claim credit for the attack. tell, thiss we can is certainly an example of the kind of homegrown extremism that all this have been so concerned about for a very long time. was a subject of two fbi investigations. -- directorctive said no stone will be left unturned in the search for answers. >> we will continue to look forward and backward. we'll leave no stone unturned and we will work all day and all night to understand the path to that terrible night. we'll also look hard at our own work to see there was something we should have done differently. so far the honest answer is i do not think so. i do not see anything that our

agents should have done differently, but we will look at it in an open and honest way and be transparent about it. our work is very challenging. we are looking for needles in a nationwide haystack. finde also called upon to which pieces of hay might come needles. if we can do that better, we will. frank bruni of the new york times, matt olson, the former director of the national terrorism center and josh elliott of cbs news. i'm pleased to have all of them on this program. let me begin with josh, you are there on the scene. tell me what we know at this point and what are the questions that are remaining? josh: you did mention that we do know upon being forced back

inside, the shooter would take refuge in that bathroom where he then took hostages. that hostage crisis lasted for a bit of time. in speaking with the orlando police chief today, i asked him officialss that led to make the decision to go in and a storm the building. he said in part that it was the lack of demands on the part of mateen. he was not looking for anything. he made oblique references to having a suicide best. they believed he might have forced his hostages to wear them demeanor and a lack of interest in any further leftssion left him -- them, rather, no choice. they may decision to storm the building shortly after 5:00 a.m. the orlando sentinel, the paper

of record in the city, house now spoken to several eyewitnesses who said they had seen omar mateen frequently pulse nightclub. sometimes you become drunk, loud and belligerent. and say awful things about his father and he would tell his patrons that he had a wife and child. as officials here digg deeper into a portrait of omar mateen, we also know what he made that papal decision to go into the pulse nightclub and and a massacre that was the deadliest mass shooting in u.s. history. charlie: do we know it they found when they went to his house and searched his house? evidently he was not someone that removed everything from his computer and his cell phone. that theknow only

materials in question, computers, cell phones, had been removed. although they have not been forthcoming with exactly what they found. we have heard the directors think it would leave no stone unturned. we were told repeatedly today that it is too early in the investigation to have any solid answers with regard to what they may have found regarding him. policetalked to the chief about possible radicalization on the part of his father. of essentially a cable access show on a california-based channel that allowed him to express a strong political abuse including some strong supporting afghan taliban. there is victory theory that perhaps his beliefs influence his son. as we see, and ultimately murderous ways. charlie: thank you.

what are the police looking at in a situation like this? greg: the question is why did they go in when they went in? that is what we're talking about. bathroom byhe taking a bearcat and smashing through the wall. i think with the chief says is ballot. told,ndividual, we are talk about having a suicide best. -- vest. he talked about having explosives. the fact that he did not makes -- make demands indicated he knew he was going to die. all things considered, i think they made the right decision. i would like to know with more specificity what happened during the two to three hours. all we have is the report that he said he had a suicide vest, that kind of thing. charlie: tell me how you see and

what you know at this moment about what they are investigating and what they are discovering. thing the fbi is looking at is whether or not he had any help. , ashe just a lone wolf first indications appear, or could there have been tactical support from overseas or others in florida. was that theywer think he might have been inspired by isis overseas, but he was acting alone. charlie: inspired meeting also, that he could have access to ofe kind of plans, some kind guidance as to how to go about this kind of murderous plot? not so much tactically but more social media, anti-american rhetoric online from isis,

ideology more than tactical operations. his ideology went across the board. isis on the one hand, has the law, al qaeda, groups with competing interests. at various times he allied himself with all of them. charlie: the fbi said and acknowledged that they investigated him. what's it we have inspected -- expected from an investigation like that? in 2013 this started with a tip or a report from coworkers about statements that mateen had made. perfectly appropriate and justifiable for the fbi to take that seriously and to do the things they reportedly did included looking at some of his contacts, talking to other people, actually interviewing mateen.

generally the fbi is instructed to take the least intrusive means based on the information they had had and they did that it sounds like, up to a point where they no longer had information that indicated he was a threat and that would justify a continued investigation. it appeared at that point they close the investigation. charlie: frank, what we know about why he chose this place? frank: he clearly chose this because there were lgbt people in there and he hated what they represented, he hated them in particular. was targeting them, this is someone who was clearly targeting all of the diversity in america, all the freedom in america. there had been extraordinary interviews with his ex-wife, coworkers, a former coworker is that he was constantly ranting about women. this is somebody who really hated diversity itself. he seems particularly set off by

lgbt community. there was a comment by his father in which he said he was disgusted by two men kissing recently. he was looking for a place to make a statement, not just pulse , but that was one of the places in consideration. charlie: when you see him and read about him, what else does it say about him? i'm going to be as riveted as almost to the news over the next couple days because they have been able to access his home, we're going to be able to see computer and cell phone stuff, i think we'll know in a norma's amount about him at the end of the week and will have a much fuller picture about him. at some degree he is just purely mad. transited intos the deadliest mass shooting in american history, we have more questions right now the answers. charlie: it is also been reported that he went to saudi arabia in 2011 and 2012.

it doesn't suggest anything radical or terroristic, but at the same time when someone does this kind of act, you look at everything he had done come as we did in the boston case. they would have looked to any information they had about his travel and they would have worked with, for example, saudi intelligence. we are going to learn a lot more about this individual over the next couple weeks. hisright now it looks like radicalization was really based on an incoherent set of influences. it is not clear that it really was isis-inspired as much as at the end there he claimed his allegiance to isis. he had associations with other ideologies as well. charlie: when you look at this,

does it look like, by definition , something he'd carefully planned, in terms of the weapons he used them in terms of how we approached it, in terms of the number of people he killed. gone to the bar before, that looks like an omen of planning. he bought the ar-15, then a handgun from the same store within a week's time. clearly it is something that was in his head. hopefully we find from his e-mails or whatever more information about the run-up to this event. but the fact he was able to go into this club and shoot and hit 100 people is amazing. and killed 49. it is amazing that he was able to do that. we know he had training as a shooter, as a security guard. did he go to a range?

the practice before he did this? we do not know. horrific, the number of hits that he had in a relatively short. -- short period of time. eric, what we know in terms of the information about him as to motive? eric: the biggest question mark seems to be the anti-gay hatred. that appears to be a motive but they do not have a lot of information so far about where exactly that stems from. it seems to be a scattershot , as frank suggested, of diversity in general. whether or not he had it particularly in for gays, as his father suggested with seeing two men kiss, or could it have been

anti-hispanic because this was led night. the fbi is in early stages of looking at all that. it is amazing the number of people the gunmen hit. not so amazing when you have an assault weapon at your disposal. over thises skip because we've had this conversation so many times will really need, once again as a country, to ask the question of why it is so easy for people like this woman to end up with assault weapons? of the right to bear arms and defenders of, whether we are talking about civilians that every american being able to access assault weapons as opposed to being something else. it is amazing that many people were killed, horrifying. is that not directly related to the type of weaponry at his disposal? ray: this type of weapon has an external clip. nobody has spoken about the clips but let's assume he had

five. he had at least 100 rounds of ammunition. you can reload it very quickly and as what really stands this weapon apart from other weapons. a hunting rifle or whatever. you load it from the bottom and you can have a 30 round clip. automatic, pretty well determined that he had a semi automatic rifle. theyan pull the trigger quickly and get those rounds out, which he obviously did. >> is worth pointing out that has been a weapon of choice in almost all the recent mass shootings in america. we saw in washington again the familiar debate over whether or not there should be increased gun restrictions and we will see that over the next few weeks as a result of this. matt, telling what they are saying in terms of on the website of terrorist organizations or in fact in the chatter that we may know about

in social media? matt: we know that isis, through its news agency, essentially claimed credit for this almost in the immediate aftermath of the shooting calling mateen a fighter. the review to other attackers using similar terms. soldiers,attackers as san bernardino attackers as supporters. playbook,e isis especially what appeared to be attacks that really are not linked back to isis in terms of isis controlling or directing your. they basically take credit for it. that spreads out on social media through twitter and the many twitter accounts associated with isis where isis'followers applaud this type of violence. that is what is happening in social media. any moredo we know information about what he called -- what he said when he called

911? >> the tapes themselves have not been released but the chronology was that he called about 2:30, about a half hour after he went in. guns a shooting, he called 911 and hung up. then he called back and spoke briefly with the dispatcher affirming his allegiance to isis, the islamic state. hung up again fairly quickly. called him back a third time, spoke for a bit more than hung up again. there were a total of three calls in which he pledged his allegiance to isis and the leader of isis. of course, we will be waiting to see if and when those tapes are released. charlie: there seems to be a different case. help me to understand if i'm wrong. we'll have more information and understanding of the mind of and the inquiry of come in terms of social media -- he seemed in no

interest to wipe out his record. >> apparently not, no. a lot of attention is being paid right now to what the fbi looked at and then moved on from the whether there was a flaw in that procedure. there were a lot of other people in this man's life who heard the way he talked, who observed his behavior. charlie: two wives, a father. >> and coworkers. he was continually lodging complaints. veryould all look carefully at what we learn and ask ourselves questions about whether we are all playing the proper -- paying the proper vigilance. observing things around us. you are the police chief in los angeles, chicago, or anywhere else in america. and you know this happened. part of the work is intelligence. theng to figure out who

suspect. what else? ray: part of what you have to do is raise the comfort level, particularly with certain communities. the lgbt community -- charlie: you have people saying i'm almost scared to go out. to meet with them, you have to put additional resources at key locations and you have to meet with other communities as well. the muslim community. in new york city there is an advisory board of leaders that the police commissioner will meet with, other members of the department will the with. see ae in new york, you significant uniformed presence on the streets that is unlike other cities because new york can afford it, it is the biggest police department in the country. plugging into intelligent channels, the nypd here and in other cities work very closely with the fbi and the joint

terrorism task force construct. that is where most information comes from these days. you get any information you can but you have to try to comfort those communities more specifically concern. charlie: josh, everybody who is in the media in orlando this morning, tonight and tomorrow are talking to the victims. what are they saying about how they saw in what happened and the experience, the horrific experience of having someone with the kind of firepower heated shooting as fast as he could? josh: we have heard variations of the same theme over and over again today, charlie. ,his gathering place for lgbt specifically lgbt youth had become a second home. it was a very popular club here. it was a place where we had

several people describe it as a second home to us. when the shots rang out, because human nature does not demand we think the worst in that first moment, everybody processed the sounds of the initial shots being fired as perhaps part of the music that was still playing in the club at the time. but shortly after the first bali of gunfire, the power was cut, and i can only imagine how exponentially more chaotic that scene became as people scrambled at 2:00 in the morning, perhaps having been there for hours, for exes they could perhaps not see. witnesses described moving to the light and doing whatever they could to do it, whether they were crawling through what they would later discover as they looked down at their own close was the blood of others, or scaling walls and the back of and pulling complete

strangers to safety and having to run the five blocks north orange on their way to the hospital, which in fact was on lockdown and had to turn away a lot of people initially. it was a chaotic scene to be sure and instruct so close to home. -- it struck so close to home. also want to talk about one other thing. as frank said, this is a conversation we have had so many times. the role that mental illness may have played here, we have heard his ex-wife speak and say he was buried bipolar. polar.s -- very bi that was her opinion. i had a chance to speak with a childhood friend, when they were just friends a young boy. he said he was definitely odd. you would go through periods of silence, severe reticence, and

suddenly would exclaim that -- there were violent streets with it him although he did not see violence in his makeup. that is also a discussion that is being happier today. -- being had here today. charlie: this is the worst mass murder in our history. we know the names of those other places. will anything change as a result of this? >> i hope so, i really, really hope so. i hope we revisit the question of gun control. i think we must. there are sensible measures we used to take. there are sensible measures we can take if we could just find the political resolve and we fought to the obstacles. that needs to change. what was just said about mental illness, echoes the -- that goes back to what i said about being observant. there are people around us who may need attention and help.

bill oft a matter of find them, it is a matter of making sure we do not have people unraveling before our very eyes. hopefully that will change, too. it is unlikely anything is you can hearge and the resignation and president obama's voice. tragedy after tragedy, there is a push for, for instance, a weaponsban on muscle and it is inevitably blocked in congress with the backing of the an array and i do not think anyone expects that to change after this. charlie: what you make of the presidential candidates responses to this? see the total political polarization over this issue with donald trump blaming the president for this and suggesting and some they way that you -- in some vague way

that he was involved in some in some unspecified way. hillary clinton is behind president obama. there's the sense of the president knowing how hard he tried afternoon town -- newtown and it came to nothing. eric: i think there is a feeling here in washington that if the sandy hook massacre, as horrific as that was, was not enough to change anything that perhaps nothing will. national was at the terrorism center, we would see people on the no-fly list, this the highest level of watch watchlist, andhe somebody on the no-fly list cannot get on an airplane in united states, they can go out that same date and by an assault weapon. watching this happen, watching these individuals, it was pretty

disconcerting to know that was something that could not be stopped. it seems to me that there is an opportunity to reraise that, at least among the other regulation gun control issues. charlie: if you're on the no-fly list, you cannot buy a gun. seems pretty simple and straightforward to me. seems like something that ought to be able to get done. eric: that was proposed after san bernardino and was voted down by republicans in congress. i think you will see changes may be around the edges. jim komi said he will re-examine the process. 10 months is a relatively short. of time -- shrot period of time. there should be another category, pending, or whatever,

when one of these luminaries investigations are done. if, in fact you have been investigated by the fbi, they should be some notation in the database as far as this individual has been investigated , even though the case has been closed. i think it would warrant at tost an inquiry or a notice the bureau before the gun itself is given to the individual. eric: that is about as far as the justice department was willing to go today. maybe they will look at whether someone like mateen, after he went into the store to buy the ar-15, whether that would ping the fbi. and that is not done now they said it was look at doing that but of course that purchase could not be stopped. charlie: why is that not done? many it gets into too difficult second amendment issues. ,ven that would, of course

cause opposition from the nra. let's remember who was targeted here. these were lgbt people. let's be careful in our political discussions and debates about the way we talk about lgbt americans. when we are talking about his religious freedom laws, quote unquote that legitimized the germination. when candidates rail against same-sex marriage. let's policy and think about what that says about a grouping other and lesser. let us remember this massacre and who died when we are having those conversations and people way that offer sizes and the means and lessons lgbt americans, i hope that gives them pause. charlie: how do you create a pause other than looking at the

horror of this incident? what can be done other some -- other than some kind of education process? let's understand what it can lead to, that kind of hate. frank: that is exactly right. you and i both know that they are doing it for political gain and in their allies they do not feel that way. pause before you put words like that out into the public square. charlie: i will throw this out to all of you. will this have an impact on the presidential campaign? people have said if some terrible terroristic act came along, and i think they meant at that time when the expressive, it could somehow affect the presidential campaign in the way we used to talk about quote october surprises. >> what makes it so difficult to answer is the timing. i heard people stopped talking already about san bernardino.

so of the things that is chilling and galling about this is so often come four receptor something like this, a receptor something like this, it has exited the conversation and we had moved on. andtimeline between now november, becomes an them -- an impossible question. charlie: was confirmed people in the police that they have about guns and hate? eric: we have certainly seen donald trump trying to claim the candidatethe stronger and national security. he doubled down on that today in terms of banning muslims. whether that will work is debatable. artainly it will become question for the next month or two.

the president refusing to call up islamic radicalism. eric: and hillary clinton was asked about that and she said you can call it radical islam and she is fine with that, she was not going to let trump bully her with that label. she seems to be taking it a bit further than obama is comfortable with the terms of the semantic debate. charlie: donald trump said obama should resign if the continues to refuse to call it islamic radicalism. eric: correct. charlie: the seachange in terms of hillary clinton on that idea of what terms we use? i think you have seen a slight shift, yes. charlie: final comments? josh in orlando? josh: in speaking to people here today, but really listening to

this very important discussion, i return to newtown, and i feel decision that what happened at sandy hook elementary school was somehow bearable as a nation. i fear, i guess, that once that was accepted, as frank was mass shootings that have followed have entered the discussion and a left it with alarming frequency and speed. i think we perhaps i'll have to stand back and decide really, truly, what do we accept as bearable? matt: this issue of homegrown extremism, this is a threat we have been talking about sir -- for several years. we talked about some of the things we could change for the better. there is also some danger that

we overreact. particularly in this political season, rhetoric that claims muslims as a whole or seeks to bar muslims were people from arab countries from entering this country really alienates those countries that we need to rely on in this country and engender their trust so we can stop because of attacks. there's rain -- there is real danger there is something we need to guard against. eric: this is a big test for the fbi. as you see once again after we saw after the boston marathon bombing, you have a suspect was on their radar. fbi was unable to build a case under our judicial system to deter an attack and it raises questions about this whole counterterrorism model that has grown up since 9/11. think the federal government has done a good job in protecting us.

look at the number of successful events since 9/11, very small. unfortunately we are going to see more of these. if we see another event like this between now and the election is going to have a significant impact. i would just say the last 24 hours have been very instructive and illuminating. we have two candidates who reacted in very different ways in very considered ways. it tells us a lot about what they are and gives americans a very clear choice of who they want. 1.80 picking about is we have to do more in understanding how people become so radicalized. what is it online, what is the connection between an individual here and an ideology there that brings them together? an idea and a person, and it leads to tragedy. the second point is simply, if not this, what the world can bring us together in terms of

trying, with great urgency, to do more? thank you for joining us, we will be back in a moment. ♪ today, we spoke to six surgeons who saved lives. they saw 44 gunshot patients at once. they brought a first patient in the mid-brought another patient and and brought another in and said it was possibly 20 more gunshot wound patients

coming in. at that point i called my backup. it was very chaotic. there were patients that were in pain, patients that were crying, there was staff that was very oriented.very task- the chest,wounds to the abdomen, the extremities. most fairly severe because of the high velocity projectiles. >> what you mean by that? >> this was an assault rifle. it was a military weapons of the bullets have a lot more energy to them, a lot more speed so they cause more tissue entry. >> there was an individual who required multiple operations in 24 hours because of active, ongoing bleeding. he got operated on twice in the icu. >> but you saved him? >> we did. different from the

typical saturday night gunshot wounds you typically see? >> they are different from what we used to call civilian bones, typically smaller bullets. we are seeingly gunshot wounds from high velocity military weapons almost on a daily basis. these type of injuries are something we see every item day, just not 44 patients. >> were the patient's saying anything? >> some were crying, some were confused. the more critical patients obviously were not saying anything. many people were asking where their friends and loved ones were. youf the surgeries performed, does any patient stick in your mind? >> they also can your mind. after something this horrific, going from operating room from operating room, patient to patient, i do not think any of us will ever forget this. this is not something i goes away. familyad hundreds of

members of the lobby of the hospital all clamoring to know how their loved one was. i think the thing that struck the of us was just, devastation to these families and not knowing for hours and hours because so many of the victims were still inside the club. >> i was trying to put myself in their position not knowing if their loved one was in the hospital or their loved one was still at the nightclub. and, i just want to say that i'm proud that we were there to be there for them. it is very humbling. ♪

♪ when a horrific event like this happens, people around the world pause. the interrupt what they are doing and they think about what has happened and ask themselves the questions we have been asking. it happened last night at the tony's. here's what james gordon -- cor jealous, and lindeman wealth maranda said. >> good evening. all around the world people are trying to come to terms with the horrific event that took place in orlando this morning. the whole theater

community and every person in this room, our hearts go out to all those affected by this atrocity. all we can say is you are not on your own right now. your tragedy is our tragedy. where every place race, creed, sexuality and embraced and loved. hate will never win. together, we have to make sure of that. as aht's show stands symbol and a celebration of that principle. this is the tony awards. styling, i ame too old. i wrote you a sonnet instead. my wife is the reason anything gets done. by degrees.e she is the perfect symphony of one. our son is the most beautiful reprieves. we take the melodies that seem to find us until they are finished songs and start to play.

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actor's career, there's just the journey and there is just now. so, it is rather ironic that i playing aawarded for man who is losing his now, losing his reality, as indeed my dear brother andrew is at the moment. are so many names i wrote down today to thank you, but i hope they will forgive me if i bring in a dose of true reality. what happened today in orlando. and i found some words that i think will mean more to you than a litany of names. when something bad happens, we have three choices. we let itdefine us, destroy us, or we let it

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finally this evening, there is what the president said today. he spoke to the terrible tragedy , spoke about the efforts to do something, and he spoke about the pain that so many feel at this hour. president obama: i just had time to get the latest briefing from the fbi director and the rest of my national security team about the tragedy that took place in orlando. they are going to be doing a more extensive briefing around noon,a little bit after over at fbi headquarters so i will allow them to go into all the details right thigh was important for you to hear directly from a weird first of all, -- directly from me. first of all, our hearts go out to those women killed.

our hearts go out to those wounded. this is a devastating attack on all americans. particularlyt is painful for the people orlando, but i think we all recognize this could have happened anywhere in this country. and we feel enormous solidarity and grief on behalf of the families who have been affected. ae fact that it took place at club frequented by the lgbt community i think is also relevant and we are still looking at all the motivations of the killer. thatt is a reminder regardless of race, religion, faith, or sexual orientation, we are all americans and we need to andooking after each other protecting each other at all times in the face of this kind

of terrible act. killer,pect to the there's been a lot of reporting that has been done, it is important to emphasize that we are still at the preliminary stages of the investigation and there is a lot more than we have to learn. say is thing that we can that this is being treated as a terrorist investigation. it appears that the shooter was extremisty various information that was disseminated over the internet. all those materials are currently being searched, exploited, so we will have a better sense of the pathway that the killer took in making a decision to launch this attack. will indicate,ey

at this stage, we see no clear evidence that he was directed external. it does appear that at the last minute, he announced allegiance but there is no evidence so far that he was in fact directed. there is also no evidence that he was part of a larger plot. whatpears to be similar to we saw in san bernardino we do not yet know. what is going to be important in terms of the investigation. as far as we can tell right now, this is certainly an example of extremismf home-grown that all of us have been so concerned about for a very long time. that he was able to obtain these weapons legally because he did not have a criminal record that in some

ways would prohibit him from purchasing these weapons. it appears one of those weapons use able to just carry out of the store. an assault rifle. had agun, a glock which lot of clips and it. apparently required to wait for three days under lord of law. it does -- florida law. it does integrate that it was not difficult for him to obtain these weapons. director comey were discussed the fact that there had been some investigation of him in the past that was triggered, but as will indicate, the fbi followed the procedures they were supposed to and did a proper job. isthe end of the day, this something that we are going to

have to grapple with. making sure that even as they go after isil and other extremist asanizations overseas, even we hit their leadership and go after their infrastructure, even as we take key personnel often field, even as we disrupt external plots, that one of the biggest challenges we are going to have is this kind of propaganda and perversions of islam that you see generated on the internet, and the capacity to that to seep into the minds of troubled individuals or weak themiduals, and seeing motivated then to take actions against people here in the united states and elsewhere in the world that are tragic. so, countering this extremist

ideology is increasingly going to be just as important as making sure that we are disrupting more extensive plots engineered from the outside. we are also going to have to make sure that we think about the risks we are willing to take how the -- wex in make very powerful firearms available to people in this country. this is something obviously i have talked about for a very long time. that we, my concern is start getting into a debate, as we have in the past, which is an either/or debate. the suggestion is either we think of something as terrorism and we ignore the problems easy access to firearms, or it is all about firearms and we ignore the

very real role that organizations like isil have in generating extremist views inside this country. it is not either/or, it is both/ and. we have to hit these organizations and hit them hard. we have to counter extremists. but we also have to make sure that it is not easy for somebody who decides they want to harm people in this country to be able to obtain weapons. over the nextt atys and weeks thart we -- tht we are being sober about this problem that would let the facts be determined by our investigators we also do reflection on how we can best attack a very challenging problem. not just here in this country,

but around the world. again, my final point up here is just to extend our deepest sympathies to the families of those who were affected and to send our prayers to those who are surviving and are in hospitals right now, their family members, hoping they get better very soon. in the meantime, you can edit this page -- you can anticipate that sometime around noon and -- that director comey will give you more. think -- we do not yet know the motivations but here is what we do know. oranizations like isil organizations like al qaeda or those who have perverted islam and created these radical,

nihilistic, vicious organizations -- charlie: thank you for sharing your time with us. we will see you tomorrow. ♪

♪ john: good evening. it has been two days since american woke up to news of the deadliest mass shooting on u.s. soil. the political world has been transfixed on how the two presumptive presidential nominees some responding to this moment of national crisis. we will talk about what the candidates and party leaders have insane and just a moment, but first, this is what the voters think or at least a window into that. we have a new bloombergpolitics pull hot off the presses showing of the calculating donald trump by double digits in the head to head general matchup. this poll was