♪ john: i am john heilemann. -- i am john. mark: and i am mark. mark: "with all due respect" to donald trump, there's no wall that can keep this out. donald trump: there's a mosquito. i don't want mosquitoes around me. i don't like mosquitoes! ♪ john: welcome to this edition of "the best of with all due respect." it was a week hillary clinton learned she would not be facing charges related to her e-mails while she was secretary of state. meanwhile, donald trump attempt to navigate controversies of his own making.

talking about her e-mail. mark: for more than four hours, the fbi director answered questions about their year-long investigation which republicans say held clinton to a different and lower standard than other government employees. all day, comey was cool and confident as he over and over gave virtually no ground to critics of his view of the case. republicans' main line of attack was not that clinton should have been indicted, although they mention that quite a bit, and they are frustrated byc -- , but they by comey harped on this, that clinton was not entirely truthful in past statements, including under oath. a republican from utah said he would send a referral to the fbi to investigate clinton's testimony which she gave under oath during the benghazi committee hearing last october. so here is comey answering questions today. >> did hillary clinton lie to

the fbi? comey: we have no basis to conclude she lied to the fbi. >> did hillary clinton lie under oath? comey: not to the fbi not on the , case we were working. >> secretary clinton said she never sent classified information in her private e-mail. was that true? comey: our investigation found that -- >> so that was not true? comey: that's what i said. there were a small number of portion markings on i think three of the documents. >> secretary clinton said all work-related e-mails were returned to the state department. was that true? we found work-related e-mails, thousands that were not , returned. >> secretary clinton said her lawyers read every one of the e-mails and were overly inclusive. did her lawyers read the e-mail content individually? comey: no. >> and of that top security information you found with

, someone who was sophisticated in those matters -- would it be obvious that that was sensitive information? comey: yes. >> did she have to sign a form regarding her responsibilities to safeguard this information? comey: yes. >> did you look at the clinton foundation? comey: i am not going to comment on any other investigation. >> was the clinton foundation tied into this investigation? comey: i'm not going to answer that. john: that is a bombshell that occurred late in the hearing was asked about the clinton foundation. we will talk about that in a moment, but that is one thing republicans have really seized on. the other thing they seized on is this question of clinton's truthfulness. overall, how did comey do? and how did republicans on the committee do?

john: i will answer briefly, at first at least. comey gave a master class in how you go to capitol hill and deal with an oversight committee hearing of this kind. he was, as you said, mark, cool,d -- calm, collective, authoritative, and had grace under pressure. i said before i thought republicans probably could not do a creditable job, particularly given their history. i thought the committee conducted itself reasonably well, although i do not think they advanced the ball very much, and i think for hillary clinton, this basically concludes a week that because it ended the existential threat of it diamond, both because of comey and loretta lynch saying there would be no indictment, in the balance, not good for her, not bad for her, and she is very close to being able to put this entire thing behind her as a legal, political matter. mark: i have one big negative thing to say about comey and some negative things to say about the republicans on the

committee and how they did, but let's look additionally at how comey did, which, as you said, on balance, from his point of view and from hillary clinton's point of view very strong. , comey: i believe the investigation was conducted consistent with the highest traditions of the fbi. there are two things matter in a criminal investigation of a subject -- what did the person do, and when they did that thing, what were they thinking? and we do not want to put people in jail unless they prove that they knew they were about to do something they should not do. no reasonable prosecutor would bring this second case in 100 years focused on gross negligence. should have known, must have known, had to know does not get you there. you must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they knew they were engaged in something that was unlawful. mark: comey frustrated republicans on and off the committee today, because he basically did everything he could to help hillary clinton, or so it seemed. a lot of the things he said over and over when pressed was that he could not say what kind of penalty someone who worked for him who did what hillary clinton

did. move from could dismissal to reproach. however, he is going around saying today "i want to be , transparent. i need to be transparent," but he did not take questions from reporters again today, and he is not being totally straight about things. for instance, the standard of going out and talking about this, the refusing to talk about the clinton foundation case i do not get. my bigger criticism is of republicans. yes, they only had basically a day and a half to prepare, but the chairman chose not to wave the rule that limits everybody to five minutes block for questions. there was not a democrat on the committee interested in getting at any fact. they were just there to help hillary clinton, which is par for the course in washington on partisan hearings, but no republican, with the exception of one or two, got any momentum on questions, and a lot of them just wasted their five minutes. so hillary clinton, i think won , the day.

comey helped her, a lot, i think but it was not as bad as the , benghazi hearing. but they did not have a strategy. john: we will talk about this more on the show, but one important thing, at least to my mind, one of the big criticisms was when comey said he would not recommend an indictment because you could not prove intent to have broken the law, and a lot of republicans that a couple of days ago that is not the standard under the law. it could be gross negligence. comey had strong responses and made good arguments for why that was not really the standard and should not be the standard under the law. he also, i think, cleared up some things with respect to the markings, the classified markings, on a very small number of e-mails in a way that both was clarifying and also, i think, politically helpful or the clinton campaign. i am sure it will disappoint the person we will talk to later in the show. all right, let's move on here to

donald trump. meanwhile, the republican presumptive nominee made a rare appearance on capitol hill today, meeting behind closed doors with house and senate republicans. reviews from rank-and-file house members were mixed about that first meeting in the morning. some, like georgia congressman tom price, called the pitch a "unifying speech," while others said it did not change their view, their negative views of , the party's divisive result of nominee. the meeting that came afterwards with the senate was apparently somewhat less collegial than the morning meeting with the house. trump reportedly called out some senators who refused to back his candidacy, including arizona who urged trump to stop attacking mexicans. last night, trump spent long stretches of his rally in cincinnati meandering through a wide array of topics, including

yes mosquitoes. ,mr. trump: i used to talk about japan. now i talk more about china, but it's still japan. i could talk about my grandchildren. let me. then we talk about golf. jack nicklaus -- he is the greatest guy. and he is a friend of mine. bobby knight. bobby knight. bobby knight. ladies and gentlemen, the president is what to talk about his grandchildren. i love my protesters. don't we have so many protesters today? i love saddam hussein. i hate saddam hussein, but i love saddam hussein. and the problem is i professional. am a and they love ivanka. and they love melania. he wants bernie sanders for vice president. that is a new big don king. one. newt gingrich is going to be involved with our government. that i can tell you. ok? isn't it nice when you don't read from a speech? you verygela, thank

much for being here. i bought turnberry. maybe i will open it on november 7, the day before the big day. my boy, i love you. come up, eric. come up. i look relatively thin. the democrats -- there was a mosquito. i don't want mosquitoes around me. i don't like mosquitoes! john: all right, so, mark that , speech got, let's say, mixed reaction from republicans. and then today trump also got , mixed reaction from congressional republicans. so at this hour, the last 12 hours or so, 16, 18 hours, has trump helped or hurt his efforts to unify the republican party? under his leadership? mark: it is extremely mixed. i think on balance, he is doing fine. getting ted cruz, the meeting with the house republicans, and the general rallying around the intake clinton rally that trump represents, i think on balance, he has had a good week, but the

outliers, picking fights with some senators today is just not helpful, but the truth is if he picks a good running mate -- here i go into my broken record mode -- fixed a good running mate, has a good convention, he will have all the unity he needs, and if he does not execute on those three, a meeting on capitol hill is not going to make any difference. john: if you look at the reporting coming out of those meetings today on capitol hill, i think there's no question on balance he helped himself. the reaction of house members more positive than the reaction of some senate republicans. a good day for trump today on capitol hill. i think his performance last night, however, just sewed even deeper doubts among political republican professionals, elected officials, and probably some of those same congressmen and senators who were in those meetings today about his ability to do the basic work that any winning presidential candidate has to do, which is to maintain some degree of message discipline and focus and talk about the things you should be talking about that help you get

closer to winning an election. he did not in my view do any of that last night and has not in any way capitalized effectively on hillary clinton's moment of vulnerability post-comey. mark: they have more staff coming on board. they see him clearly still flailing a bit or casting about a running mate, and the convention is coming together. it will all be up to trump and he will win or lose based on performance. all right hillary clinton, , bernie sanders, and their unity project continues to live along. they are reportedly in talks now about the possibility of holding an endorsement event in new hampshire on tuesday, the same state where the obama-clinton unity event was back in 2008. has withheldourse, full support for clinton as he tries to pull her and the democratic party further to the left on as many policy fronts as he can. he is doing all right so far.

he has had some success. on his wish list, you have the education event yesterday, and today, sanders in an interview with al hunt of "bloomberg view" -- charlie rose -- talked about some possible areas of additional consensus. mr. sanders called the platform we have made real progress. , i want to see specific language about raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. and i believe in this country people who work 40 hours a week should not be living in poverty. >> they call for that now on the platform. mr. sanders: no, they do not. it has to be clear. seco, i think we need to make sure that the tpp -- the transpacific partnership, which is, in my view, a continuation of disastrous trade policies in the past which have cost us millions of decent paying jobs, have led to a race to the bottom. i think we should be clear in saying that should not come up in the lame-duck session. forget it. al: senator sanders that would , be a direct slap at barack

obama, who is the most popular figure, the most popular democrat in the party right now. i know you are opposed to it, i mean, and opposing it is not a slap, but saying, "i'm sorry, mr. president, you cannot bring that up in a lame-duck" -- mr. sanders: i had the impression that we live in a democratic society. mark: it looks like clinton will get bernie sanders' support, but where does she stand with sanders backers now? john: i do not know the answer to that question. there's still a very raucous, loud group of sanders supporters you run across both in the world and on social media who seem to be really dead enders on this question. i think she has done a lot of said certainly, as you with sanders himself, and is no , doubt some of the platform language is going to get her part of the way there. i do not know. a lot of it comes down to how that endorsements event goes, how does it go, and what does

sanders say about her not just that day but in the days after that endorsement? we just do not know that yet. mark: i think also her running mate and convention choices will be a big deal as well. you know, a lot of people on the left, i think could be persuaded , by symbolism if she picks someone further to the left for prominent convention speakers, keynote speaker, the person who introduces her, etc. and do they talk? do the marquee speakers, do they talk about issues that matter to sanders supporters? after the convention, there will be a lockout there to remind sanders supporters why a lot of them would prefer hillary clinton over donald trump, why they need to rally even if they do not like everything about her. coming up next the clinton , campaign spokesman will talk about today's hearing on hillary clinton and the fbi right after this. ♪

♪ mark: joining us now from the fancy, new camera at the hillary clinton campaign headquarters, the new campaign spokesperson. her secretary, brian fallon, who is going to be trying to turn this into a victory lap the , parts of the hearing he liked, but i will try to head him off on that. at the very end of the hearing, was asked ifmey there are the a separate investigation into the clinton foundation and would not answer, do you have any reason to believe there is an ongoing investigation by the fbi and the justice department into the clinton foundation? brian: i personally have no knowledge to that effect and as someone who used to work at the justice department, i can tell you the normal practice is to not answer that question one way or the other, regardless of if there is an investigation or not. so a no comment in that

situation really does not tell you anything. john: brian, you had this hearing today. i know your view is republicans did themselves no good today and this was probably a good day for hillary clinton because that is what you would say, but having director comey go through all the places where he found in their investigation facts, how can that not be politically devastating to hillary clinton? brian: well, john, i thought that later on in the hearing under further questioning, the director actually contextualized a lot of those answers and actually brought into alignment a lot of the statements we heard from him at his press conference earlier this week compared to the statements hillary clinton has been making all along. so he affirmed, for instance, that it is his belief that she set up this arrangement as a matter of convenience. he completely disputed the idea that there was any analogy to be drawn between her situation and david petraeus or the former cia

director john deutch. he explains that even though he previously said there appeared to be some e-mails that had markings on them, that those documents were improperly marked and that even someone who was well steeped in classification rules might look at that document and not judge it to be classified. so on one point after another, i felt like he actually fleshed out some of his points from the other day and a lot of apparent contradictions between what he said at the press conference and what hillary clinton has been saying all along were actually squared. john: brian, again, let me come back to some of the things -- there were an awful lot of where what the committee found or what the fbi found and what secretary clinton has claimed for a long time -- that all the e-mails were turned over, that although on the classification markings you are , right there was some clarification brought to bear,

still claims that dozens upon dozens of what should have been classified were still -- how do you deal with donald trump and now campaign ads featuring the director saying she did not tell the truth on repeated occasions? brian: well, actually, i think that what is going to linger in the mind of most voters was the bottom line decision that the fbi reached, which was that there was no willful intent to commit fraud. the discussion over the last several months has been animated by the fact that there has been an ongoing justice department review, and it has been that prospect, that unknown potential about what may come of that review that has sort of in livened the discussion of this, so now that that is taken off the table, i think a lot of this now is reduced to a partisan back-and-forth, and i think that the hearing today actually blew up on republicans. in general, if a couple of days ago, director comey put the emphasis on all the areas where

he wished hillary clinton would have acted differently, i thought today because of the way republicans conducted a hearing, he was actually in the position of having to justify and defend his position about not going forward with the case, and as a result we got a lot of positive , information that backed up a lot of what we have been saying for months, so i really think that they blew this opportunity. republicans try to keep the focus on this, i think voters just will not go for it he does the bottom-line is that this case is closed as far as the career officials of the justice department are concerned. mark: brian let me ask you about , one thing which seems to be a discrepancy. i'm sure you can clear it up. your camp suggested that in order to ensure foia was completely followed, hillary clinton had her lawyers read through all the e-mails, meticulously dividing the governmental and the business ones. comey says they did not read them. they looked at headers and did

word searches. is comey right? did they misrepresent how complete that search was? brian: i think the search was pretty complete. in addition to looking at headers and doing keyword searches for a wide range of terms, they did read a large number of them. mark: the proof is in the pudding. reading a large number of them is not the same as reading all of them, and according to the fbi they missed a lot which were , not handed over, meaning the record was not complete. brian: yes but i think with the , director said and affirmed again today was that there was no evidence that there was a deliberate effort or will for -- willful effort to conceal anything or hold that any e-mails. mark: it's not a matter of trying to conceal but a matter of leaving behind a complete record. she chose not to do that when she left the department. i do not think you are challenging the director's account -- brian: not challenging. mark: you acknowledge it was not done as completely as you all represented previously and it was done in completely, right?

brian: i would not say it was an incomplete review. i would say it was an extensive, exhaustive search that took weeks on the part of some of these lawyers. if you think about what they ended up turning over -- more than 55,000 pages all having to be printed out, this is a very exacting process, but i'm not challenging the director's comments. john: still ahead, a conversation with a clinton supporter and a trump super advisor. ♪

♪ john: we are back with kellyanne conway, senior advisor to the trump campaign and former democratic congressman and current clinton supporter harold ford, jr. kellyanne, you watched, as you indicated earlier, the clinton-obama event today. putting aside the questions of the fbi, did you see a politically potent tandem there on stage or, in some way, you think they are deeply flawed? kellyanne: i think that it was a great day for hillary clinton.

her campaign and her candidacy could have been over with an indictment. instead, she got on air force one and went down to north carolina -- you and i paid for it, of course -- and stood with the president. so it was a great day for -- anytime you can have a two-term sitting president basically say to voters elect her and give me the third term as potent -- ronald reagan did it for his vice president, george herbert walker bush and it mattered. people really wanted a third term of reagan. it's not clear that the whole country wants a third term of barack obama. but you have to say, when he was reading from the teleprompter, which was most of the time, i thought it was a steady call for her to be the next president and he was dissing donald trump because he can't help himself. but then i thought off-script, the president was full on partisan pundit. i think that was unfortunate. he's still the president of the united states. he's still the commander in chief. he has every right to endorse and campaign with her. but i think there is a line that should not be crossed in terms

of how political one becomes. i listen to garden variety pundits all day long and they seem pretty petty and catty. i would expect something different here. harold: in fairness, mr. trump has attacked the president over and over again, even continues. he has not put out the fire yet over whether or not he believes the president was born in the united states. that being said, mrs. clinton paid her way on that trip. i don't want to repeat what i said about the two of them together. but i thought it was a formidable piece. if i were on the other side of this equation, the biggest worry i would have is whether or not this group, the two of them along with their supporters, can again reassemble and reconstitute that unbelieable coalition mr. obama put together four years ago. mark: kellyeanne, the reason donald trump is here today is no coincidence. he changed things up to basically to step on the obama-clinton campaigning. explain the logic of coming to the same state, and what's hism message going to be tonight int he wake of obama campaigning with clinton and north carolina.

kellyanne: perhaps one of the greatest assets of donald trump to the electorate is that he is unapologetically unafraid of hillary clinton, bill clinton, and all the clinton candidacy means. that's very refreshing because we've had republican candidates in the past really pull their punches on any number of things. and so he's taking the case right to them. he is saying i am not ceding to you one of the swing states in north carolina, the only one of the nine, might i add, that mitt romney bothered to win in 2012. so it is a marginal red-blue state. it has a republican governor and senators. but it could go either way. barack obama won it in 2008. but it also -- he will go out there and make the case against hillary clinton. that's what i think -- today, he can quotes right from the comey report, right from the comey press conference. i think the trump campaign can run ads directly from the press conference where it literally says "fbi director comey" and he's saying she's reckless. she was careles, but quote no reasonable prosecu -- i think he is taking the case right to -- and he's telling north carolinians we will be

back here again and again and make the state competitive. john: harold, last week, hillary clinton with senator warren, today with barack obama, later in the week with vice president biden -- is there any risk -- we look at those people and say they're great surrogates for her -- is there any risk that she starts to look a little uninspiring next to such a heavy hitting lineup? harold: no, i think itt reinforces for voters and reinforces for the party and independents alike the wealth and diversity and strength of the party. when you look at a hillary clinton in the white house, with whoever she chooses for her vp, and surrounds herself -- it was reported over the weekend she might consider the ceo of apple tim cook the ceo of facebook sheryl sandberg to be a part of that team. you combine it with a formidable team in the u.s. senate, i think it signals to the country that here is a president who can work with congress that can get things done. you even heard republican senators quietly and some even

publicly say they can work with her on foreign policy issues, economic policy issues. so i think just the contrary. even today with president obama, she opened and opened with a lot of electricity, a lot of excitement and a lot of substance. and to hear the president underscore how smart she is i think only emphasizes the point more, amplifies the point more that she is not only ready but ready to work with congress in the process. kellyanne: today may be her best day with obama on the trail, because, as you suggest, john, maybe over time, it won't wear as well and she will be diminished under the far brighter star power of elizabeth warren, certainly president barack obama. the other risk there is she -- we all know that cool is is not transferable. and so her problems are likeability and trustworthiness. you really can't just impute that to someone else. i think he will do her a great job at the convention, just like her husband bill clinton did for barack obama in 2012, the most important speech in my view at the democratic national convention in charlotte that year.

so he will do that for her. but she runs the risk of looking like she needs to be propped up, that just she can't do this on her own. mark: kellyanne, before you joined the trump campaign, you thought tom cotton was donald trump's best vice presidential choice. do you still think that? kellyanne: oh, that was a parlor game with you on set one day. you said say something that nobody else has said. i think -- i love the list. the short list is growing. very serious for middle [indiscernible] people like governor mike pence of indiana, senator joni ernst. obviously, newt gingrich is still in the mix. i think he's got a very strong list to choose from. and i like the fact that he is meeting with them one-on-one, and being somewhat public about it, being very honest about who is being considered. it also shows a unifying of the party that is often not mentioned fairly enough in the press. john: next, our take on the vice presidential sweepstakes. ♪

john: welcome back. this is the final stretch of the season. let's start with the democrats. they were all dishing out clinton talking points while dodging questions over whether they would join a ticket with hillary clinton. where do things stand with her running mate decision? mark: i don't know who she is planning to pick. but according to clinton people, they are very happy with the choices. no one is going to make the case that her choices will revolutionize the race. people seem genuinely happy with those and perfectly satisfied.

my sense is they don't think she is headed for the -- i still think she won't pick until trump does and maybe not until his -- after his convention. he may well take on the eve of his convention. john: i think that is one of the elements share, the timing. -- here, the timing. if he trump pick is next week, that will give clinton some time through the republican convention to the time that she will announce to step on his headlines. i hear tim kaine a lot more than tom perez. tom perez, someone who seems maybe someone who they want to seem in consideration rather than someone who is actually in consideration. i think tim kaine is the front runner and i still think elizabeth warren is the best

choice. [laughter] mark: tom vilsack, i thought early on that he was the one that she was going to pick. he is as exciting as tim kaine, a governing partner, someone she likes to work with, someone who is loyal to her. i'm not hearing that necessarily is [indiscernible] john: the main case for tom vilsack as she likes him a lot and you can't discount how important that is. but it seems hard for me but -- hard for me to believe that he will end up on the ticket. returning to the question of donald j trump, billionaire and presumptive republican nominee, trump met with two possible running mates, it indiana governor mike pence, who huddled with trump on saturday, and ios -- iowa senator joni ernst, who had her face-to-face meeting

with trump. you've got senator bob corker from tennessee. the same question i asked you before come up where does trump's decision stand in your mind? mark: one of the funniest things i have ever heard was kelly and conway. it is similar to what happened with john mccain. down to a handful of choices in and say, you know what, these choices may not be good enough. expanding to joni ernst. looked at the list and said no. no one on that list is actually right you need to think a new and think more broadly. although, it seems that maybe

they did and pence makes a lot of sense. john: he's got to solve the problem he has right now, john: he's got to solve the -- getting republicans to come home. and pence may be the best solution. chris christie doesn't solve the problem of getting republicans to come home to donald trump. i know the clinton people, they still think trump will go with his gut in the end. they don't know anything about what is going on internally, but they expect in the end it will be chris christie or newt gingrich. mark: i don't know this for a fact, but i have one source suggesting that he has been talked out of gingrich and that they will find another role for gingrich in the administration. that may well be a dead letter. but everybody says, and the end, this is trump's decision, that he will go with his gut and that

could mean anybody. just like with palin, they are under pressure to that someone -- to vet someone. john: coming up, ed rendell and alex stewart. ♪

♪ john: our final guest tonight is in fact two guests tonight. ed rendell and alice stewart. i asked about what seems to be a sudden renewed, something

something going on with the dump truck moving to cleveland. some anti-trump people saying they might be able to pull off a trump coup. alice: that is to be expected. people have had concerns with donald trump for quite some time and will continue. they will be speaking loud and clear. but what we expect to see at the convention, the rnc has gone through the rules process. what is expected to happen is people will galvanize and rally behind donald trump and he will be nominated as the nominee for the republican party.

while there is a lot of folks holding their nose and have issues and concerns about some of his policies and where he stands moving forward, the number one goal, though a number one focus for all republicans and conservatives is to defeat hillary clinton. we cannot do it divided, we have to do it united. the best way to do it is to get together at the convention and rally behind donald trump and put all focus and all eyes on defeating clinton. john: ed, i'm going to ask you about james comey. the things that director comey said about her were brutal yesterday. in some respects, showed her to have been not totally honest, some would say an outright liar with respect to some of the ways

in which she handled her e-mail in the course of the last year. how bad you think the political fallout from the comey statement yesterday is for her. ed: i think the problem is that donald trump blew a good opportunity yesterday and implied that director comey was in on the process being rigged. if he says it is rigged, it is hard for him to turn around and use director comey's used -- words used, words that were skating in part, against clinton. because donald says that it was rigged. if this was all a mess to make it look good. i think he boxed himself again by not taking a deep breath, forgetting about crooked hillary, forgetting about she should have been indicted, and saying this goes to dutchman, to care and applies to serious matters and this is what director comey said. i think he made a big mistake in handling what could be a very

serious problem. john: let me stick with you for one thing on hillary clinton. given the things that comey has said in the discrepancies he put forward, she will clearly have to talk about this at some point. does she not have to step forward at some point and answer all of the many now questions that reporters would like to ask her after what comey said yesterday? ed: eventually she does. it is not exactly clear what the facts are. for example, director comey said he didn't bring charges, no reason a prosecutor would and why people who did similar actions were never charged -- well, who are those people? that would be interesting to know. he said that a lot of the e-mails have sensitive, classified material.

but was the e-mail in its entirety classified? that would be interesting to know. i think there is a letter -- lot of fact-finding before anybody is in a position to answer questions. i can imagine, in one of the three presidential debates, someone is going to ask hillary clinton those questions. john: it would be nice if she had a press conference before that. it's been a long time since she has had one. alice, as a communications affectional and a longtime republican, how do you think your party and its presumptive nominee have handled the potential political opportunity that james comey has presented with a things he said about hillary clinton yesterday?

alice: i agree somewhat with the governor. there is more to focus on yesterday as opposed to the rigged system. the sheer facts that comey outlined and, yes, a large number that were sent through her personal server were marked classified at the time they were sent. this flies in the face of her repeated unequivocal the now -- denial that any of the e-mails that were sent were marked classified. in and of itself, that fact alone, she lied repeatedly to the press and anyone who asked those questions. i see it hard for her to get through the next few months before getting to the debate, given the group of reporters on the ground, without having to answer some of these questions. that will be difficult for her to do. in addition to the fact that we have mass security information, -- national security information, who knows who has access to this now? we don't know who has tapped into that system. that is the question that will not a known for some time. those are the kind of things any

to be pointed out, the fact that she lied repeatedly about this information, and just the sheer fact that she knew what the rules were. she knew what the laws regarding the use for a personal server and she felt that the rules did not apply to her. and those are the kinds of things that the republicans in the gop need to continue to hit on in the next months. john: ed, just two words, who would be the best vp pick for hillary clinton? ed: i like tom vilsack. john: some might say ed rendell. great to see you both. thanks for coming back on the show. we will be right back. ♪

♪ john: thank you for watching this edition. we will be back with a brand-new show on monday. until then, head to bloombergpolitics.com. have a great weekend. sayonara. ♪

carol: welcome to "bloomberg businessweek." we are inside the magazine headquarters in new york city. target taps toddlers, colossal debt, and a puerto rican murder mystery. that's all ahead on "bloomberg businessweek." ♪ carol: i'm with the magazine editor. ellen, you guys take a look at the airbus a3 80. it is a huge airplane but is it too big for its own good? ellen: it may be too big. it's enormous and very luxurious. it has a sweeping staircase going up to a second deck.