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♪ anchor: hello again from downtown cleveland. republicans are gathering ahead of their convention next week. and we have a new bloomberg politics item with some surprising and important results about hillary clinton and donald trump and how they are doing a month college educated voters. news, a triptych of the stories print one, democratic unity in the north, and another, about the midwest, but we begin in the south, pacific league in alice, president obama giving
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and emotional and spiritually searching speech at the memorial service for the five police officers slaughtered by a lone gunman in the big "d" last week, finding grounds for optimism , and theyeep despair called for unity and reconciliation. obama: i'm here to insist that we are not as divided as we seem, and i know that because i know america. againstow far we have, these. president bush: we recognize that we are brothers and sisters, sharing the same brief moment on earth and owing each other the loyalty of our shared humanity. market, we will place a more extended excerpts from the
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dallas situation in a minute, but first, about this event today. what struck you the most? mark: these are two guys who did this before, and i thought they were extra ordinary. conflict, and a beautiful job. remarkable, and where the optimism can come from. john: i agree. it was good to see george w. , and this is a horrible through line through his presidency, the shootings, the mass shootings in some cases, individual shootings and other cases. there are too many of these things.
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it is, his ability to call on scripture and speak veryage of spirituality, powerful. it was very powerful last summer when he did it in charleston, very powerful when he did it again today. mark: remarkable. and this had power. also power of the whole tableau of races, religions, parties up there. i am sure the whole nation focused and paid attention, but my instinct, at least, what everyone would have watched, is going to have a lot of good feeling after the hard week that they have had. dis toes, and it is no president bush to say the president obama's speech is important.
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the first african-american he talked in such a powerful way. the white constituencies that he knew to address and to the black constituencies, asking for both sides to try to emphasize with the other. he gets criticism from the right or trying to focus on police brutality, and he gets criticism elsewhere. and it was just about perfect. mark: i saw a lot of conservatives praising the president. and i thought this is great.
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and i thought this was a good aside.put this to see both presidents up there, and our second big story has and to do with politics, this is a rather unambiguous endorsement of hillary clinton out on the campaign trail today competitor,ng his and then clinton paid this back. ♪ mr. sanders: hillary clinton understands that we must fix the economy in america that is rigged and that sends almost all
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of the new wealth to the top 1%. hillary clinton will make an outstanding president, and i am proud to stand with her. x it is a privilege to be here with a senator sanders, being here with him in new hampshire, i know this is an enjoyable election, now that we are on the same side. what, we arenow stronger together. campaign,ghout this senator sanders has brought people off the sidelines and into the political process. he has energized and inspired a generation of young people who care deeply about our country.
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and, are building a movement that is bigger than one candidate or one campaign. you, thank you, bernie, for your endorsement, but more than that, thank you for your lifetime of fighting injustice. i am proud to be fighting alongside you. our $27 donations, as well. john, from the use of the springsteen song, and hillary clinton mentioning and praising jane sanders, could this event have gone any better from the -- the point of view of the clinton campaign? may have been better if protesters did not have signs that said, do not vote for hillary. even in an event like this, there is resistance. bernie sanders could not have
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done better. what he does after this event matters a lot. but it was very good from hillary clinton's point of view. how many of them will end up with hillary clinton is the big question. mark: he very cleverly talked to his supporters, where there was overlap with hillary clinton. andy headed out any areas where there is disagreement. i thought he was warm to her. i do agree it will be hard to bring all supporters along. i was curious to see what he would do with the mailing list.
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it will do more with brotherly and sisterly love. the headline says, clinton gets endorsement from sanders, unifying party. , saying, hoping to unify party. i thought they would both like a little time to get it together. after today, they go forward. that is another big question. things just a one-time for bernie sanders, or to the fight metaphorically at clinton's side. if he does that, i think he has a chance of pulling it all together.
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slavery, and subjugation, and jim crow, they did not simply banish with the end of lawful segregation, and if we cannot even talk about these things, if we cannot talk honestly and openly, not just in the comfort of our own service, but with those that look different than us, or bring a different perspective, then we will never break this dangerous cycle. worryn open heart, we can less about which side is been wronged, and more about joining sides to do right. john: margaret, it strikes me that the degree of difficulty was very high for president obama. he has done a lot of speeches like this. rather than just talking about a situation where there was a
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white shooter with black victims, or a black shooter with white victims, he had to basically talked about communities, and talk about both dynamics here. just talk a little bit about that. >> this has been the central challenge of last week, a compounded series of tragedies. from louisiana and minnesota, to the shooting in dallas which completely overtook those two events. and they were connected in the sense that the shooter in dallas was angry about police, racial mistreatment of police. but, for the president, it is been a real struggle to figure on how to keep the focus racial disparities and policing while drawing a clear line in that what happened in dallas is completely unacceptable, but
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there is an explanation of this anger but also cannot be ignored. to hear the president invoked by name the political movement, black lives matter in the middle of this presidential campaign was -- i think he pined after how to make these lasting points that they canopes try to put themselves in the shoes of what black americans experience without being an apologist for violence that is completely out of bounds. it is different than that speech in charleston. a year ago, that was much more ,bama speaking from the heart he had the robes flowing behind them. today was the dallas police chief talking about stevie wonder, and how he used to quote stevie wonder, and how we wanted to quote them to the crowd. he was a speaking from the heart, but obama arguing from the brain today. mark: margaret, we know the
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president met with law enforcement leaders. any idea what he intends to do, going forward on these important issues that again are not new, but obviously or the top of the country's agenda? >> there is so little time for any kind of action. you do see echoes and embers of bipartisanship, republicans that have to run another term to get on air force one. it is safe to do that if you're going to a memorial service, but -- risky.risk you he wants to pave the way for when hisversations presidency is done, for the next president. mark: thank you very much.
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vice president biden has been involved in all of these issues, he was there again today. any idea if he will have a special role going forward to deal with this? >> he is been a credible figure it to talk about these issues. the minute president obama starts talking about them, he turned away from it. iden has always had that appeal, to certain demographics of the voters, older, male, white. and vice president biden also continues to have those relationships to the senate. the question is, in the midst of a presidential campaign, will there be that pivotal turning real that allows any action or legislative action going forward? absolutely, what we saw with joe biden doing this round robin of networking reviews, the white house still believes he can play in this administration. mark: thank you very much.
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mark: apparently a new name on hillary's list, the clinton campaign is betting a retired four-star navy admiral who oversight nato operations in the middle east and elsewhere. he is currently the dean at tufts university in massachusetts. that is a clinton development, but the man predicted to pick first, is donald j trump. trump in an interview said he
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five runningetween mate contenders, plus some secret once he is considering. on the familiar list, former house speaker newt gingrich. broke off with him because of -- because he might be on the ticket. also, rally tonight with donald trump. our reporting tells us that governor chris christie of new jersey who campaigned with him yesterday is still near the top of his list. if it comes down to the garden state versus the hoosier state, what is the political argument for taking christie over pence? ahn: they comes down to number of things. first, he is a much more compelling candidate and
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campaigner than mike pence is. if you are asking for a comparative argument, that is why. he is the best brawler in american politics. why not get a street fighter. and i will say, there are only a couple of things that a vice president actually needs to do. he needs to give a good convention speech and when the vice presidential debate. if you are trump asking who is more likely to win the debate, christie or pence, you're picking christie. mark: in congress, the leader of the conservative movement, pence played at a high level, but not at the level christie has played because of the nature of the media coverage, because christie has been on the cover of time management -- magazine. what i'm hearing about pence on the negative side, he has not been through the kind of fire that kristi has been through. if you -- christie has been through.
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they have been through significantly more national fire then pence has. he did not perform all that well in the eyes of many people. john: remember, you and i are exactly whate know some of the stuff in christie's closet, he has betting problems. that was back with mitt romney in 2012, and things like bridge gate. when we saw him running for president he did not do well in this nomination fight. but he did have some great moments. at one point during the race he said i have already been through hell and that, and i have survived. that makes me a dangerous candidate. that did not help him win the republican nomination, but could make him a strong running mate for donald trump. mark: i will say, there are two
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things about pence we did not talk about. he is a grassroots conservative, a legend in the conservative movement. christie is not. the other thing, pence is a populist. invoted against things congress that the establishment was for. he is an antiestablishment figure. while he is known in washington, he also will reinforce a strong way for trump. the notion of being an outsider. when we come back, he loves her, he loves or not. now he seems to love her. the entire history of bernie sanders and hillary clinton's relationship after this. ♪
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2016, they are back to being friends. mr. sanders: hillary clinton and i disagree on a number of this -- number of issues. >> he launches campaign, same thing. in may, he's not a threat. by august, he is. i very rarely read that he is a socialist. >> first date, sanders does easy. really easy. mr. sanders: the american people are sick and tired of hearing about it in e-mails. wins, he wins, more of this and this. i don't believe she is qualified. let's they meet, makeup, best friends forever. mark: joining us now to talk about the clinton and sanders
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courtship is kristin walker who instill import smith -- portsmouth. what surprised you today at the event between sanders and clinton? one of the things i heught was noteworthy was used the word i am going to endorse secretary clinton and then vowed to fight vigorously for her. i think that is significant and based on my conversations with clinton campaign officials, it was it they were hoping for and more than they expected, so they think it is a major step forward for -- forward. and part of this rally felt like a sanders rally. he ticked off what he had been writing or and areas where they .ad found common ground and that $15 minimum wage.
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not everybody is ready to get on board with secretary clinton. you had folks saying never hillary, protesters shouting out amidst both of their remarks, so there was a little bit of everything and a reminder that this was a hard-fought primary and secretary clinton clinched the nomination more than a month ago and sanders was not ready to get on board. had those victories on health care, education and the minimum wage, she felt like she could throw -- he felt like he could throw his full weight behind her. the question is held vigorously is he going to campaign for her. based on my conversations, he is planning on hitting the trail for her and they continue to insist their number one priority is to defeat donald trump. john: my question picks up where
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you ended, which is talking about what comes next. what does the clinton campaign expect now that they have an endorsement pretty much the way they would want to get it. what do they hope he can do for them between now and the convention and beyond. guest: that is the all-important question. i think he will give him a speaking role at the convention. they would like to see him campaign as vigorously for her as she did for barack obama back in 2008. he is going to campaign vigorously for her, but how frequently is he going to be out on the trail? those are the details still getting work out. is not going to fight for any
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more victories. he's holding the line at what he has oneself are for he has made the decision and we were told it was his decision not to try to .in anymore he got about 80% of what he wanted in the party's plat negotiations, so he can go back to his supporters and say we did win some tangible things here. be on thently will he campaign trail? we will get those details in the coming days. mark: we mentioned reporting now -- what the logic of hillary clinton who has a lot of national security person, picking semi-with a military nonpolitical background? guest: this is a retired four-star admiral, a former member of nato, he is someone who could help to rally military voters.
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we always knew she was going to look at some candidates who have a military background. it doesn't mean she's not considering him seriously. she wants to have all of her options on the table, but someone with a military background would help in some of those areas. we are hearing that donald trump is betting lieutenant flynn as his vp pick, so it checks on those boxes. out rumis several days making the final decision -- several days out from making the final. i'm curious if you have of whate of any detail the convention element might look like? rolekind of speaking
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center sanders might have and how they might present a unified picture of the party. guest: i think he is going to have a major speaking role. elizabeth warren is going to speak in the early days of the convention, i believe tuesday. senator sanders, we have not then even an exact day but i think you will have -- we will hear a lot of what he said today and this full throated endorsement of how he plans to fight for secretary clinton to become president. mark: thank you very much. , our new bloomberg politics whole. next, our new bloomberg politics pull. you can listen to us on the radio radio at bloomberg 91 -- 99.1 fm. ♪
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mark: joining us from our nations capital to walk us through the new results of our brand-new bloomberg politics national slice whole is doug usher. educated folks, what we find? educated folks are supporting hillary over trumped by a fair margin. we have her wing by over 20 white -- 20he along points. that's a group that is one every election since they have measured such thing and he is trailing by 11 points.
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he may be given up a segment republicans have always one through recorded history. .- have always won mark: a breakdown of democrats and republicans and how they are feeling about their candidate? doug: we see a consolidated vote right now with college educated them across porting hillary clinton as their nominee. when you take a close look at republicans among this segment, you do not see consolidation. support is at 75% and partisans 85% to be supporting him at to win overall. a demographic obama won by two points, you see trumped down by a fair bit. the real question for them to be considering is not whether they can make up a number among those
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that are not college graduates, but what can they do to cut down these numbers because it is troublesome for that campaign. they have to do something to change that dynamic for top mark: is it because of trump's issue conditions as opposed to mitt romney or style question mark what is turning off college educated republicans who voted for romney that are now supporting clinton? doug: i think it is stylistic and i think it is policy. divisions in the white electorate. if you look at white men and white women, you see a typical gender gap where trump is leading by a point, but among white women, he's losing by over 20 points. the real thought is when you compare it to when we see it in the electorate overall. if you look at the results that came out a week ago, you see without a college
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degree are supporting trump by 37%. women, theyat white are supporting them -- and education of 67 points, that's on president and we have never seen it before. that division is something they are missing as they look at divisions accurately across race and gender, there are some huge fissures going on among white voters that i think are take -- are worth taking a close look at. mark: we tested the three people who are talked about as running mates, gingrich, christie and pence with the college educated group. what did we find there? is what isuestion good for trump question mark
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there are only two people almost as unpopular as donald trump and that is chris christie and newt gingrich. who are the only people who are just as unpopular as hillary clinton, the answer is chris christie and newt gingrich. they have an appeal in the , but are theyty going to concede this part of the electorate? can they win by building up numbers among the rest of the electorate? is threading a it'scult needle because difficult to communicate messages around turn out. need to have a high turnout. one would expect trump should be looking at numbers like this to
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see what they could do moving forward to break down these deficits because that's going to be essential to put together a winning coalition. mark: thank you very much. we will have more slices coming up soon. coming up next, we will check in on today's convention planning and committee meetings and cleveland when we come back.
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but here is one way it could go down. >> more than 2400 delegates will be here in cleveland. 62% are bound to vote for donald trump. there are 112 delegates in the arcane rule, mom has as many votes as california. if they fail, the next number is 28. fullwould force a delegation vote. that means a chaotic floor fight is within reach for trump opponents. can they do it? i would not that on it. us is one of the cofounders of the anti-trump freebie delegates movement. john mccormick is with us. before i get to regina and her
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grand conspiracy to throw this convention into chaos, tell us whether you think any of it is likely to play out in a way that would make her happy. byn: it's -- we will know friday when the rules committee finishes their business and we will know if we have a minority report. tell us why you still have .ope regina: we have been continuing to contact delegates and we know do not wantof those to have to vote for donald trump. many are there underdressed, basically told by their state policies -- state laws how to vote. as a mechanical matter, having laid out what matters,
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tell us how you would remove -- how you would maneuver your way to victory. regina: it would be telling delegates they have the right to vote as they choose and that is what it comes down to. it is already within the rules to do this, many of them just don't realize it because we have just been having a nominee and everyone says yes, let's rubberstamp the guy and be done with it. it has been decades since we have had contention. john: you don't have to win a battle of the rules committee level, you just need to go into the convention next weekend do what you want to do? alreadye rules have allowed this. in 1976, delegates in 246 different instances have cast ballots according to their own choice and insisted there votes are recorded that way. reality is going to depend on the rules committee.
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they are not able to get that minority report out, there's a small chance this could happen on the floor. i do think the meetings on thursday and friday will be very big lott it's a pretty -- and it is a pretty big longshot. something like this would be astronomical for ratings. john: a reporter of fox news recently said john kasich could put himself forward as an alternative. does your movement need an alternative to generate the kind of momentum and plausible ?cenario do you need john kasich or someone else? guest: it would help some of the delegates that are hesitant. it is the unknown they are
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afraid of. whether they would want to beef put forward and accept a draft. that is rather tantalizing. who would those people be? guest: my lips are sealed. john: why would you want to keep that secret? >> it is whether they are ready or not. john: is john kasich looking at that as a plausible path and mark -- plausible path? guest: how long he stayed in the when he shouldn't have been there. john: when you think about these delegates, who would they like to be the alternative if they step forward? guest: a lot of it -- a lot of it is ted cruz.
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he had the largest number of delegates other than donald trump. they are willing to accept another candidate because they know we have to stop donald trump. although ted cruz is a choice of most of them, they are willing to go from another -- go with another candidate. if trump picks a certain kind of running mate, say he picks governor pence, would that do anything or do a lot to unify the delegates who do not like and that much? guest: having a candidate to come forward? picks mike pence as his running mate. guest: i have not heard anyone is talking about who it should .e i haven't heard anyone say if it was gingrich it is better. they want to remain candidate
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would be and who donald trump picks does not play into this at all. mark: that surprises me. every convention i have covered, the delegates are rabidly interested in who the running mate is going to be. you are telling you and your associates don't care who trump picks? guest: i think it is interesting. but i am not hearing that is what sway them. possibly a ted cruz or rubio to .ave a lot of support trump brings an already had their past -- had a passion is not going to make a difference. mark: we still don't have a schedule. any idea why the trump campaign manager still planning to
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release the program? i did run into some fairly high-ranking folks. is inaid the schedule place and it was going to potentially have been released last week before the events in dallas and elsewhere took place. there is a schedule somewhere, but it has not been released yet. are: good to hear you hanging out in bars. that's for the best reporting goes on. we will be back after these words from our sponsors. ♪
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john: you may have noticed that hillary clinton was very agreeable during bernie sander'' speech. the nod. we took a tally. -- sanders: who's support john: that was just a fraction of her nods. we are still counting them. next up, on bloomberg radio, first word asia. coming up on bloomberg west -- on bloomberg tv, "bloomberg west ." sayonara. ♪
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he discussed the burdens placed on officers in the line of duty. president obama: from the moment youput on that uniform, have answered a call that at any briefestven the interactions may put your life in harm's way. mark:ite house says -- the white house says he considers the attack a racially motivated hate crime. bernie sanders has endorsed hillary clinton for president. the two former rivals appeared together in new hampshire today. theresa may has less than two days to build a team to rescue the u.k. from its worst little crisis in a decade. she replaces david cameron as prime minister tomorrow. china is calling a landmark ruling on the south china sea nil and void. th
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